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    drpped weight in last week :(

    **** it, down 2kgs this week to 99kgs, puts me in the 100kg class, need to be in 110kg class by Sat morn. 250mgs test e per day and 500grms oats per day for the next 8 days it is then!

    Tren has really kicked in and must be lowering my b/f water weight
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    2 c. Greek yogurt w/ fruit
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    Blend on liquefy drink 2-3 a day

    Best I've got

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    if an overabundance of whole milk every day doesn't make you gain what will?

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    On 5000cals atm, the extra 300 grms oats and the extra 2g of test bumping water weight will hopefully swing it. Use semi skimmed milk in all shakes which contain the oats also, don't want too many fats making me sluggish.

    Anymore experienced ideas lads?

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    sorry, noob question. isn't it better to compete in a lower weight class? or is it too boring to totally blow away the competition?

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    No, I'll be up against a 335kg world record holder in that division. I'm hoping for 300 and I'm more competitive in 110kg division even at the bottom of the weight class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11
    No, I'll be up against a 335kg world record holder in that division. I'm hoping for 300 and I'm more competitive in 110kg division even at the bottom of the weight class.
    Why not just win the lower weight class?

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    he's saying the the lower weight division has the 335kg record holder.

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    Cut adex down from 1mg eod to .5mg eod
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    40mg dbol
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    On top of nebido shot at start of Aug

    Going to nail 2.5g of test over the weekend so it's peaking next sat and hope it bumps the water weight

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    i've got a noob answer. if you think tren is somehow countering your weight gain, and currently weight is more a concern than anything else, why not drop it?

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    but if you are 99 kg couldn't you drop down to the lower weight class or is it same day weigh ins?

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    You could lower your ai dose.......

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    Nevermind you just posted that as i was typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    Why not just win the lower weight class?
    cos I won't be competitive and the Irish 110kg raw deadlift record is only 270kg which I should stuff unless there's any dark horses on the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    i've got a noob answer. if you think tren is somehow countering your weight gain, and currently weight is more a concern than anything else, why not drop it?
    and noob it is lol. Cos it's giving me insane strength and aggression. I'm not being ungrateful but I've a grip on what I'm doing and seek tips from experienced guys to just bump that bit of extra weight, I have already had 22lbs weight on since start of Aug

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOINAGE View Post
    but if you are 99 kg couldn't you drop down to the lower weight class or is it ame day weigh ins?
    99kg IS putting me in a lower weight class, I don't want to be in it, I want to be at least 100.1 to lift in 110kg class

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    Why not just win the lower weight class?
    cos I won't be competitive and the Irish 110kg raw deadlift record is only 270kg which I should stuff unless there's any dark horses on the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    99kg IS putting me in a lower weight class, I don't want to be in it, I want to be at least 100.1 to lift in 110kg class
    I'm talking the weight class even below that one. it's possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    and noob it is lol. Cos it's giving me insane strength and aggression. I'm not being ungrateful but I've a grip on what I'm doing and seek tips from experienced guys to just bump that bit of extra weight, I have already had 22lbs weight on since start of Aug
    still learning, so i was more interested to hear your reasoning than expecting you to follow. cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOINAGE View Post
    I'm talking the weight class even below that one. it's possible
    I think you don't understand this pal, the next division is 90kgs, why on earth would I attempt to start losing almost 20lbs in 8days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    I think you don't understand this pal, the next division is 90kgs, why on earth would I attempt to start losing almost 20lbs in 8days?
    Plenty of people drop 15-20 lbs in a matter of days, sodium and water load, drop sodium continue the water, then drop the water. Timing is crucial etc, but if weigh ins are the night before, can gain all teh weight back and then some overnight. At least that is what the record holders do. but then again it might not be a good idea to try it for your first time at a meet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiandude View Post
    still learning, so i was more interested to hear your reasoning than expecting you to follow. cheers
    no worries

    Dbol /drol for water weight and joint ease with good strength

    Tren for strength/aggression and keeps bf at bay on a big cal count

    Test for all-around function

    Didn't bargain on the tren lowering weight that much considering the dbol drol cocktail, hence looking for exp views. But if extra cals and 2gs test don't shift me up then idk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOINAGE View Post
    Plenty of people drop 15-20 lbs in a matter of days, sodium and water load, drop sodium continue the water, then drop the water. Timing is crucial etc, but if weigh ins are the night before, can gain all teh weight back and then some overnight. At least that is what the record holders do. but then again it might not be a good idea to try it for your first time at a meet.
    haha, cute. Competing 21yrs, please don't post rubbish like losing 20lbs in a few days. You obv don't know anything about PL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    haha, cute. Competing 21yrs, please don't post rubbish like losing 20lbs in a few days. You obv don't know anything about PL.
    Pretty sure a lot of powerlifters do this. And on some other powerlifting forums guys post up weigh in weights and actual weights prior on their journals and how they accomplished it. I do want to compete in powerlifting, and may not be an expert, but your comments are rude. Maybe it's only the really big guys doing 20 lbs, and 10 lbs is more reasonable for your weight range, but you don't need to be condescending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOINAGE View Post
    Pretty sure a lot of powerlifters do this. And on some other powerlifting forums guys post up weigh in weights and actual weights prior on their journals and how they accomplished it. I do want to compete in powerlifting, and may not be an expert, but your comments are rude. Maybe it's only the really big guys doing 20 lbs, and 10 lbs is more reasonable for your weight range, but you don't need to be condescending.
    man, stop and think, how do you think losing weight right before a meet will affect strength? Don't presume on posts, look at my AVI, do I look like a novice? I already stated I know what I'm doing and am looking for exp tips on manipulating drugs to get the most out of cals, so to me it's ludicrous when someone suggests I lose 20lbs I've just fought to gain in a short time. I asked about GAINING not losing. Comprehend the question 1st then post......
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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    man, stop and think, how do you think losing weight right before a meet will affect strength? Don't presume on posts, look at my AVI, do I look like a novice? I already stated I know what I'm doing and am looking for exp tips on manipulating drugs to get the most out of cals, so to me it's ludicrous when someone suggests I lose 20lbs I've just fought to gain in a short time. I asked about GAINING not losing. Comprehend the question 1st then post......
    excuse me for being a little off topic with a different approach to your problem. I dunno you could have been a bodybuilder moving in to powerlifting, you certainly look in good shape from what I can tell. Either way I'm just surprised you took such offense. Good luck with your meet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOINAGE View Post
    excuse me for being a little off topic with a different approach to your problem. I dunno you could have been a bodybuilder moving in to powerlifting, you certainly look in good shape from what I can tell. Either way I'm just surprised you took such offense. Good luck with your meet.
    man look at the cycle I'm on, i would be a touch impatient atm lol.

    Apologies, didn't mean to go off on one, just a bit on edge, it's my last comp and I want to break 300kgs on the DLIFT

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    man look at the cycle I'm on, i would be a touch impatient atm lol.

    Apologies, didn't mean to go off on one, just a bit on edge, it's my last comp and I want to break 300kgs on the DLIFT
    Yeah that makes more sense. Last comp and break 300 kgs I would eat like crazy, destroy it.

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    How about upping your sodium last couple days to hold some water

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    Dec i thought you had given up on AAS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulkn View Post
    Dec i thought you had given up on AAS?
    i have after next Sat, bored with cycling and heavy lifting now. HGH only after this with maybe a few light var runs a year, but certainly never thrashing on the weight again, will sit nicely at 90kgs

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    Its funny how some do not understand your experience and just how precise pl is just like being on stage or so many little things can make a big difference

    Good luck and let us know your results!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    Its funny how some do not understand your experience and just how precise pl is just like being on stage or so many little things can make a big difference

    Good luck and let us know your results!!!
    yep, its ultimately a peaking of a combination of things and one slight oversight or change just throws your psychology right out the window and then doubt creeps in, game over and you missed your top lift............

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    Great to see you back man, I go away on hols and everything changes lol. Nice work and goodluck I presume today bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCI View Post
    Great to see you back man, I go away on hols and everything changes lol. Nice work and goodluck I presume today bud
    nxt Sat mate.

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    Set the alarm for the middle or drink a pint of water before bed so you get up for a piss and eat something or drink a weight gain shake. Comes on think and fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    nxt Sat mate.
    Where is it man, might pop along for a nose

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Set the alarm for the middle or drink a pint of water before bed so you get up for a piss and eat something or drink a weight gain shake. Comes on think and fast
    yeah i'll have a shake with 100grms oats midway through the night and on the morning i'll sink 1-2ltrs of water right before weigh in if i have to.

    weighed myself again 10mins ago and im 100.4kgs

    thinking maybe the fact i lowered my AI during the week has helped as well. have that tight strong full feeling creeping in again, blasted through an arm workout today like a beast as if it was a warm up

    one more prep lift session on Mon, i'll lift to my intended 2nd lift and should have a good gauge after that.

    didnt get my fookin test tonight and hope that doesnt play on my mind too much.

    but ive still 400ml of tren a, 700mg adrol and 320mg dbol to do this week. i suspect my 1st bottle of tren was under
    dosed because i usually get heartburn on tren and didnt get it or the sweats, started the 2nd btl from a diff lab start of last week and the heartburn is raging in me since y'day, its taking 2 doses of strong prescribed meds to kill it and im sweating at night!!
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    When is the comp? Take it slow pulling your 2nd lift

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox View Post
    When is the comp? Take it slow pulling your 2nd lift
    next week, always go to 2nd lift the week before, sets me up psychologically

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