America is as screwed up as the rest of the world

[gixxerboy1]

I know i catch slack for this. but i want to start a good discussion. I have alot of friends from all over the world. Alot of people dont look at things from an objective point of view and see how others see us. We have similiar issues as the rest of the world. We and our media IMO spin them different,

We see car bombs all over the middle east. They are terrorist and horrible i agree. They see us. We have mass shootings. Look at the movie theater shooting, how many college campus shootings and so on.

Our ambassador was killed in a attack. no way to justify it. Civilians from there did try and help and stop it. Gabby Giffords was shot in the head and others killed at a rally at a grocery store parking lot. Civilians there stopped the killer thankfully. Whats different?

We see protest with we hate America signs and burning flags over there. . They see protest here. Saying Obama is a Muslim. Obama as Hitler. The 99% rallies with all kinds of signs. some of them turned violent. Stores were burned, cops tear gassing people. Hell there was protest at U Penn over Joe Pa and he was protecting a child molester. Cars were set on fire during that. How did that look to people around the world. People rioted because a child molester was let go.

We say we want democracy and civil rights for everyone. We limit gay rights to marriage. Some of the tings said about the gay issue by people in office are horrible. There are protest outside funerals saying god hates fags. We are passing all kids of laws on "voter id" Our media has that as a way to disenfranchise poor and elderly voters. Also changing early voting and how to register to vote. Re drawing districts. Do you not think that looks corrupt to outsiders? Like people are trying to manipulate the laws so a certain member wins elections. Yet we say how we want to spread democracy across the world. And will complain that elections other places were corrupt or rigged. It looks like we do the exact same thing. We look like giant hypocrites.

What others thoughts?

[Gaspari1255]

We need to stop giving free section 8 housing, food stamps, and family first cards to these hoodlum pieces of shit that continue to pump out more children in order to get more government checks. It's a fvcking joke. Oh it's to help out the children right? Take the fvcking kids away and put them in foster home or orphanage or else they'll grow up to be a pack of animals just like the parents and the loser "Cycle" will continue to go on.

Also, I love how so many people LIVE off of disability now. You get rewarded for being a drunk or drug addict and get handed a fvcking check....give me a break. Disability should be given to those who do not have the true ABILITY to work, not to some lush who spends 24 hours out of the day in a bottle....

Why is it that the working man continues to get fvcked over and over again? Our society almost encourages us to be degenerates or addicts, because you apparently get rewarded for that sort of behavior.

I love when I'm in the line at the grocery store and the woman ahead of me is buying Rib Eye steaks with her family first card while texting on her I-Phone....

Oh one more thing....homeless shelters. You are homeless because you choose to be, you deserve to sleep on the street, instead of in a building that the taxpayers paid for.

If I wasn't really close to pursuing a career in LE, I would take these scumbags out myself.

[Bonaparte]

Wow Bronzer, you're a really compassionate guy.

Many homeless people and others on disability suffer from a mental or physical illness and cannot hold down a job. Try getting out more instead of listening to other hate-mongers and bigots. We are the most screwed up 1st world country, by far. And it isn't because of welfare, but a lack of it. Look at any good European country's welfare, healthcare, and correctional systems and you'll see where we're failing.

As for "taking their kids away", let me guess: you're going to vote for a guy/party who apposes abortion, wants to do away with real sex-ed (abstinence doesn't count), and would make oral contraception less available, right? Well, that's just going to create more poor kids. And what do you think will be the main consequence of putting millions of poor kids in foster homes or orphanages? (BTW, orphanages are for kids whose parents are deceased, by definition) That's right: more taxes that YOU WILL BITCH ABOUT.

[SEOINAGE]

not sure if this article is really their opinion, but going to link it here. I agree with you gixx and bronzer, although my approach to some of the solutions are probably different than you two, and bronzer I almost feel like we need more survival of the fittest I know it sounds terrible but we need to stop the hand holding.

Here is an example of the media information, about this country, that "foreign" readers have acess to but we don't.




The irony of this article appearing in the English edition of Pravda (Russian on-line newspaper) defies description.
Why can a Russian newspaper print the following yet the American media can't/won't see it?


Description: Description: cid:[email protected]
American Capitalism Gone With A Whimper

Description: Description: cid:[email protected]

It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American descent into Marxism is happening with breathtaking speed, against the backdrop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.

Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.

First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather than the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas than the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a Burger King burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.

Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more than Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more than happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Weimar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.

These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, losses, and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more than ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?

These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties, and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more than a whimper to their masters.

Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motors) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self-given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.

So it should be no surprise that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less than two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, and so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.

Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "free man" whimper.

So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance, and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Frank, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.

The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.

The proud American will go down into his slavery without a fight, beating his chest, and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.

[BR0DIE]

No offense to Americans but they always view things through very patriotic and skewed goggles.
Every American I meet seems to have a serious superiority complex and are usually completely ignorant of the outside world. Your movies, news and TV shows always strike me as pure propaganda IMO.
So it's no wonder your a falling superpower.

[Gaspari1255]

Wow Bronzer, you're a really compassionate guy.

BTW, the vast majority of what you just posted is pure bullshit.

Many homeless people and others on disability suffer from a mental or physical illness and cannot hold down a job. Try getting out more instead of listening to other hate-mongers and bigots. We are the most screwed up 1st world country, by far. And it isn't because of welfare, but a lack of it. Look at any good European country's welfare, healthcare, and correctional systems and you'll see where we're failing.

BTW, the idea of a narrow-minded tool like yourself with a gun and a badge makes me happy I don't visit NJ anymore. For society's sake, I really hope you fail all your psych evaluations.

Okay, what about the heroin addicts and pill heads that don't work because they have a "sickness"? They are not sick. They are losers who spend our money. Stop feeling sorry for unproductive pieces of shit.

[gixxerboy1]

No offense to Americans but they always view things through very patriotic and skewed goggles.
Every American I meet seems to have a serious superiority complex and are usually completely ignorant of the outside world. Your movies, news and TV shows always strike me as pure propaganda IMO.
So it's no wonder your a falling superpower.

i'm not disagreeing. That is why i started this thread. Wanted to see others opinions and thoughts

[gixxerboy1]

not sure if this article is really their opinion, but going to link it here. I agree with you gixx and bronzer, although my approach to some of the solutions are probably different than you two, and bronzer I almost feel like we need more survival of the fittest I know it sounds terrible but we need to stop the hand holding.

Here is an example of the media information, about this country, that "foreign" readers have acess to but we don't.




The irony of this article appearing in the English edition of Pravda (Russian on-line newspaper) defies description.
Why can a Russian newspaper print the following yet the American media can't/won't see it?


Description: Description: cid:[email protected]
American Capitalism Gone With A Whimper

I dont agree with everything in that article. But it just shows how we are seen by people in other nations. And articles like that will shape some peoples views on us. Just like our media does here. Most peoples opinions of other countries are from articles and what they see on TV.
I always laughed when i lived in Texas. You would get alot of patriotic people there. How America was the best country in the world. or even how Texas was the best state in the country. Then you talk with them most never left texas. How the hell do you know its the best state in the country when you never left a 100mile radius of your home.

[Bonaparte]

Okay, what about the heroin addicts and pill heads that don't work because they have a "sickness"? They are not sick. They are losers who spend our money. Stop feeling sorry for unproductive pieces of shit.

They aren't on disability because of heroin addiction (that isn't covered). They may have had a legit injury or illness, then turned to drugs because they were miserable.

I have patients EVERY DAMN DAY who have been plagued by illness through no fault of their own and would have died a miserable death were it not for medicaid and disability money.
It is a FACT that 1 in 7 homeless people suffers from Schizophrenia, and many were born with physical ailments or their bodies and minds destroyed by what our government put them through in the military. You're letting your hatred cloud your judgement and mental representative heuristics.

If you and the rest of the Right really wanted to save money, you would cut off Medicare at a certain age, GCS, or other condition for the elderly. I'm in nursing homes every day and most of those people would be better off dead, yet each one costs the system thousands per week so that they can go to their dialysis and chemo appointments and live in pain for another day, drugged up on Dilaudid to keep them quiet.
But that won't happen, because the elderly all vote.

Oh, and the morbidly obese. You can kill them all if you like, since they're the biggest drain of all.

[SEOINAGE]

I dont agree with everything in that article. But it just shows how we are seen by people in other nations. And articles like that will shape some peoples views on us. Just like our media does here. Most peoples opinions of other countries are from articles and what they see on TV.
I always laughed when i lived in Texas. You would get alot of patriotic people there. How America was the best country in the world. or even how Texas was the best state in the country. Then you talk with them most never left texas. How the hell do you know its the best state in the country when you never left a 100mile radius of your home.

It really makes me wonder about a lot of other things that we really don't know about and have a really skewed perspective. The media is a really powerful thing, and they have been controlling what we are exposed to, and a lot of people obviously form strong opinions based on twisted and partial information. As a kid I was taught in school we were the only country that had freedom. Which I realize now is a load of BS. I was also taught that when I had kids the air would be so polluted that my kids would have no future.

But really back more on target, I would imagine we look just as bad to the rest of the world as any place.

[dec11]

working in the hospitality industry i can tell you i get some crazy stupid questions and demands from Americans, i used to think, 'it cant be all of them' (maybe its just the wealthy lot that can afford 2mths touring Europe?) but it pretty much is 90% lol. i'll post some up if i dont get a backlash from it, there's some cringe worthy moments lol

[austinite]

working in the hospitality industry i can tell you i get some crazy stupid questions from americans lol. i'll post some up if i dont get a backlash from it, there's some cringe worthy moments lol

That's a silly statement.

[dec11]

That's a silly statement.

how?

[BR0DIE]

I dont agree with everything in that article. But it just shows how we are seen by people in other nations. And articles like that will shape some peoples views on us. Just like our media does here. Most peoples opinions of other countries are from articles and what they see on TV.
I always laughed when i lived in Texas. You would get alot of patriotic people there. How America was the best country in the world. or even how Texas was the best state in the country. Then you talk with them most never left texas. How the hell do you know its the best state in the country when you never left a 100mile radius of your home.

Totally agree with the part about Americans never leaving there state yet believing they are the best country in the world.

Americans always bash my country (Scotland UK) even though most haven't been in a foreign country let alone visited Scotland.

To be fair "America is the best at everything" is usually a view held by a teenage virgin living in his mums basement.

I'm not talking about every American obviously, there are jingoists in every country.

[austinite]

how?

Generalizing. Everyone has questions, and it's disheartening to hear that someone in the healthcare industry thinks "Americans have stupid questions". Educate people, don't ridicule them.

[dec11]

Generalizing. Everyone has questions, and it's disheartening to hear that someone in the healthcare industry thinks "Americans have stupid questions". Educate people, don't ridicule them.

its also disheartening when someone asks you 'is your left the same as our left in the US'?

hospitality does not mean healthcare mate lol

[gixxerboy1]

Generalizing. Everyone has questions, and it's disheartening to hear that someone in the healthcare industry thinks "Americans have stupid questions". Educate people, don't ridicule them.

he said hospitality, not healthcare

[DanB]

Generalizing. Everyone has questions, and it's disheartening to hear that someone in the healthcare industry thinks "Americans have stupid questions". Educate people, don't ridicule them.

Sorry but i agree with dec, alot of tourists over here seem very very naive

[austinite]

he said hospitality, not healthcare

lmao. misread. sorry.

[dec11]

lmao. misread. sorry.

hahaha, see what i mean

[austinite]

hahaha, see what i mean

haha. I'm English.

[dec11]

haha. I'm English.

oh dear, no excuses then! lol

seriously but, i can go through each nationality and you'd be amazed at the characteristics applicable to each nation, it isnt generalising, just my exp
experiences. i for one think generalisation is a stupid thing but you'd be amazed if you where coming into contact with so many diff nationalities on a daily basis. as dan pointed out there, Americans do have a very naive sense about them. ive even had one man demanding the number of the american Embassy just because thr restaurant was out of steak!!

ive no probs starting with my own nation, majority are a bunch of mainly sectarian twats with no aspirations other than pissing their lives away in the pub every weekend lol

[austinite]

oh dear, no excuses then! lol

seriously but, i can go through each nationality and you'd be amazed at the characteristics applicable to each nation, it isnt generalising, just my exp
experiences. i for one think generalisation is a stupid thing but you'd be amazed if you where coming into contact with so many diff nationalities on a daily basis. as dan pointed out there, Americans do have a very naive sense about them. ive even had one man demanding the number of the american Embassy just because thr restaurant was out of steak!!

starting with my own national, majority are a bunch of mainly sectarian twats with no aspirations other than pissing their lives away in the pub every weekend lol

Naa Im just messing with you. Tried to make you feel bad for a second. But seriously tho, maybe it's because I havent spent enough time out there, but here... people from all walks of life ask all kinds of questions. I never notice a specific nationality that asks different/stupid questions than all the others. Maybe I need to leave Texas once in a while.

[AXx]

ive even had one man demanding the number of the american Embassy just because thr restaurant was out of steak!!

That's way to far. Did you tell him to GTF over it? I would have and I live in the states. That's what's wrong with America as a whole they have had everything handed to them on a platter.

Bonaparte to add to your statement, lots of homeless are vietnam or war vets. Kinda depressing if you ask me.

[Honkey_Kong]

We need to stop giving free section 8 housing, food stamps, and family first cards to these hoodlum pieces of shit that continue to pump out more children in order to get more government checks. It's a fvcking joke. Oh it's to help out the children right? Take the fvcking kids away and put them in foster home or orphanage or else they'll grow up to be a pack of animals just like the parents and the loser "Cycle" will continue to go on.

Also, I love how so many people LIVE off of disability now. You get rewarded for being a drunk or drug addict and get handed a fvcking check....give me a break. Disability should be given to those who do not have the true ABILITY to work, not to some lush who spends 24 hours out of the day in a bottle....

Why is it that the working man continues to get fvcked over and over again? Our society almost encourages us to be degenerates or addicts, because you apparently get rewarded for that sort of behavior.

I love when I'm in the line at the grocery store and the woman ahead of me is buying Rib Eye steaks with her family first card while texting on her I-Phone....

Oh one more thing....homeless shelters. You are homeless because you choose to be, you deserve to sleep on the street, instead of in a building that the taxpayers paid for.

If I wasn't really close to pursuing a career in LE, I would take these scumbags out myself.

Bronzer, I sort of agree with you, but you're being a pus$y here. We shouldn't give out any SSI/Social Security to anybody. It sounds cruel, but why the fvck should the system support these permanently "disabled"/retired people? They're dead weight.

If the bums have mental conditions that make them unable to bring in a paycheque, fvck them. The nation as a whole is better off if we don't feed them and let them die off. Same with their housing, they are unable to work? They sleep outside.

And yeah, I don't know how many times I've seen people in front of me buying their groceries on EBT then whipping out the cash so they could buy their case of beer or their hard liquor. I hate my job and I sure as shit don't want to see my money going towards some bum getting a free ride because she couldn't keep her legs together.

[Lunk1]

I know this much...for those of you who dislike it so much, nobody is forcing you to stay!

How many of you bitching about the US have done anything to make it better?

Held a political office, volunteered at those homeless shelters?

How many of you would be willing to give up more of your wages and other luxeries you enjoy so that those with less could have more.

Americans share some personal freedoms (for now) that some of these other countries don't allow or make very difficult, gun ownership for example (prob. bad example in this case).

Bottom line is..plane tickets are cheap so if you are not happy here step up and do something to fix it or fasten your belts and make sure your seat tray is in an upright and locked position.

[AXx]

Bronzer, I sort of agree with you, but you're being a pus$y here. We shouldn't give out any SSI/Social Security to anybody. It sounds cruel, but why the fvck should the system support these permanently "disabled"/retired people? They're dead weight.

If the bums have mental conditions that make them unable to bring in a paycheque, fvck them. The nation as a whole is better off if we don't feed them and let them die off. Same with their housing, they are unable to work? They sleep outside.

And yeah, I don't know how many times I've seen people in front of me buying their groceries on EBT then whipping out the cash so they could buy their case of beer or their hard liquor. I hate my job and I sure as shit don't want to see my money going towards some bum getting a free ride because she couldn't keep her legs together.

So the ones that are retired/disabled we should just fvcken shoot them or let them starve and waste away?? Is that what your saying??

[gixxerboy1]

I know this much...for those of you who dislike it so much, nobody is forcing you to stay!

How many of you bitching about the US have done anything to make it better?

Held a political office, volunteered at those homeless shelters?

How many of you would be willing to give up more of your wages and other luxeries you enjoy so that those with less could have more.

Americans share some personal freedoms (for now) that some of these other countries don't allow or make very difficult, gun ownership for example (prob. bad example in this case).

Bottom line is..plane tickets are cheap so if you are not happy here step up and do something to fix it or fasten your belts and make sure your seat tray is in an upright and locked position.

It took longer then i expected for the if you dont like it leave comment I was expecting that in the first 2 responses.
I am not saying i dont like it. I'm saying we are in alot of ways the same as the places we put down or thing we are better then. I agree with things can be better and you made good suggestions for what people should do. But i dont think we as a whole will change until we actually take a look from the outside and see how things really are. I think most americans are sheltered and really dont see the country for what it is. We have the same issues as the rest of the world. But until the masses see that and admit that things wont change.

[austinite]

My biggest concern is with the inconsistencies in Caramel macchiato's at the various Starbucks locations.

[Lunk1]

It took longer then i expected for the if you dont like it leave comment I was expecting that in the first 2 responses.
I am not saying i dont like it. I'm saying we are in alot of ways the same as the places we put down or thing we are better then. I agree with things can be better and you made good suggestions for what people should do. But i dont think we as a whole will change until we actually take a look from the outside and see how things really are. I think most americans are sheltered and really dont see the country for what it is. We have the same issues as the rest of the world. But until the masses see that and admit that things wont change.

This isn't an argument about the country we live in then...it's about human nature. PPL in general prefer to bury their heads in the sand and pretend everything is good. Why? It's simply easier. I guess I don't se "us" putting down alot of other countries (exluding those that mean us harm). It's like I just told a co-worker today. The grass isn't allways greener somewhere else, it's just different grass. Meaning we may not have some of the benifits that are found in some countries but we may enjoy personal freedoms that those countries do not allow. I will tell you this...part of our problem is our generation. What I would give to go back to the way things were during WW11. Those ppl gave a shit about their country and each other.

Now we live in a society were ppl sit on an internet forum and so FVCK the unemployed, the homeless, the sick, the addicted, the mentaly handicapped. Those were not words spoken my ppl in the 40's and 50's. They had compassion for each other and for ppl in other countries.

We are all just to lazy and greedy and only care about ourselves! This is the downfall of this country!

[Lunk1]

My biggest concern is with the inconsistencies in Caramel macchiato's at the various Starbucks locations.

You ahv not had a hot dog in 5 years I doubt your having sugery drinks from Starbucks...although that would explain the 385lbs

[Honkey_Kong]

So the ones that are retired/disabled we should just fvcken shoot them or let them starve and waste away?? Is that what your saying??

Well, we shouldn't just shoot them, that's a bit harsh. But we shouldn't give them any money. Screw it, look at it like this. So I put my money in to that Social Security program so that those geezers and cripples can get their payday today, let's go 30 years down the road from here when I'm at the age of retirement. Where is my Social Security going to be? Long gone! I'd be better off keeping the money the government is forcing me to give to those fvcks and putting it in a retirement account for myself. It's not my fault those fvckers had misfortune or didn't plan ahead. I shouldn't have to pay for them.

Life isn't a team sport. If some fvck for whatever reason can't take care of themself, I shouldn't have to carry him/her. Natural selection says THEY DIE.

[austinite]

You ahv not had a hot dog in 5 years I doubt your having sugery drinks from Starbucks...although that would explain the 385lbs

It's carb free, sugar free caramel.

[Lunk1]

Well, we shouldn't just shoot them, that's a bit harsh. But we shouldn't give them any money. Screw it, look at it like this. So I put my money in to that Social Security program so that those geezers and cripples can get their payday today, let's go 30 years down the road from here when I'm at the age of retirement. Where is my Social Security going to be? Long gone! I'd be better off keeping the money the government is forcing me to give to those fvcks and putting it in a retirement account for myself. It's not my fault those fvckers had misfortune or didn't plan ahead. I shouldn't have to pay for them.

Life isn't a team sport. If some fvck for whatever reason can't take care of themself, I shouldn't have to carry him/her. Natural selection says THEY DIE.

Did your dad or grandfather enjoy SS benifits. SS was never meant as a retirement it was retirement supplement. When you come of retirement age then I am assuming if SS is still around you will be rufusing your benifits or donating them to charity because why should you get someone elses $$.

[Lunk1]

It's carb free, sugar free caramel.

Wasn't hungry...now I am!

[gixxerboy1]

Lunk i like the grass isnt greener its different grass comment

I kind of made this thread, we see all the stuff on the news about the middle east. And how many here people really want to bomb them or kill them all. And alot of Americans and news get all up in arms when they see people in other countries protesting that against america. Its just roles reversed. I'm saying we have just as much fvcked up shit going on here as they do there. Can you blame them for feeling the way they do?

Every screwed up thing we see on the news about another place. We usually have something just as fvcked up going on here.

[BR0DIE]

Lunk i like the grass isnt greener its different grass comment

I kind of made this thread, we see all the stuff on the news about the middle east. And how many here people really want to bomb them or kill them all. And alot of Americans and news get all up in arms when they see people in other countries protesting that against america. Its just roles reversed. I'm saying we have just as much fvcked up shit going on here as they do there. Can you blame them for feeling the way they do?

Nobody take this the wrong way I don't want the CIA extraditing me to the US lol.

But in a way you can't really blame those who kill US/British forces in Iraq and Afghanistan or wish death upon us with 9/11, 7/7, Madrid train bombings ect. I know if a foreign army invaded my country I would do my best to kill atleast one of them.

Reminds me of the quote "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter"

At the end of the day there are no good guys and no bad guys, everyone is somewhere inbetween.

[Lunk1]

It's one thing to protest...hell it's one of our inaliable (sp) rights. It's a whole nother thing for a country to finance terrorism. Terrorism that has been pointed at numerous contries not just the US.

I support the right to protest...except for those fuks that protest at soldiers funerals (hell even they have the right to speak their peace).

The United States has NEVER made an unprovoked attack on foreign soil unlike some of the contries I assume you speak of...sorry but it's hard not to have a sour taste in your mouth.

Do I want to bomb a country or hold EVERyone that lives there responsible...hell no. I prefer that individuals be punished for their cimes, and that not every person of that race, religion or decent be looked down upon for the actions of the few.

[Bonaparte]

You can't be serious...
Many of those disabled people are veterans who fought for this country, and you're asking what they've ever done and why they deserve to live??!! You make me sick.

PS: shooting them would be more merciful and beneficial to society than just cutting them off.

And does nobody have anything to say about my octogenarian proposition?

Well, we shouldn't just shoot them, that's a bit harsh. But we shouldn't give them any money. Screw it, look at it like this. So I put my money in to that Social Security program so that those geezers and cripples can get their payday today, let's go 30 years down the road from here when I'm at the age of retirement. Where is my Social Security going to be? Long gone! I'd be better off keeping the money the government is forcing me to give to those fvcks and putting it in a retirement account for myself. It's not my fault those fvckers had misfortune or didn't plan ahead. I shouldn't have to pay for them.

Life isn't a team sport. If some fvck for whatever reason can't take care of themself, I shouldn't have to carry him/her. Natural selection says THEY DIE.

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Nobody take this the wrong way I don't want the CIA extraditing me to the US lol.

But in a way you can't really blame those who kill US/British forces in Iraq and Afghanistan or wish death upon us with 9/11, 7/7, Madrid train bombings ect. I know if a foreign army invaded my country I would do my best to kill atleast one of them.

Reminds me of the quote "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter"

At the end of the day there are no good guys and no bad guys, everyone is somewhere inbetween.

I am not even sure how to respond to this since I cannot physicaly reach through a computer and slap you. If you don't like it pick up a rifle and fight! I respect an enemy soldier that fights for his country. Big difference between that and a terrorist.