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    Myofusion

    Anyone else have stomach issues with this protein powder?

    I love the way it taste but my asshole thinks differently

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    You will not get stomach issues from high quality 97-100% whey isolate. I have tried a lot of protein powders and it has to be very high quality otherwise I get awful stomac problems.

    Its clearly got whey concentrate in it, which is cheaply made.

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    I took a pic this morning and sent it to my cousin told me to go to the hospital lol

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    If you're in the USA, use TrueNutrition.com.

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    it only contains half the protein that they claim

    check my started thread history, i posted it in nutrition section a few months ago

    ill link it later when i get home if you cannot find it

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    stomach issues = powder full of sugar. look at Reflex or USN.

    whatever you do dont touch Inner armour, worse fvcking crap on the planet!!
    Last edited by dec11; 10-05-2012 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    it only contains half the protein that they claim

    check my started thread history, i posted it in nutrition section a few months ago

    ill link it later when i get home if you cannot find it
    I got it

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...nRKNzdKNm9XOVE

    My interpretation: I haven't measured any powder as 100% accurate. The reason probably is that none of it dissolved in water as good as my BSA standard. I gave a subjective solubility score to each. For example many chocolate flavored powders left a debris that looks like cacao, I gave them score of 4. Plant based powders didn't dissolve at all so got solubility score of 1 and obviously had low readings which doesn't mean anything. I guess they are just plant powders not isolated proteins.
    Brandwise, Optimum Nutrition looks very reliable to me. Gaspari and Body Fortress are suspicious and deserves another independent measurement. The others are OK, remember that solubility is important and 75% reading might just be attributable to that. Finally, stay away from American Pure Whey.
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    EDIT: For those of you who are suspicious of APW results, check out the previous thread that inspired this one. They did not find any protein either.
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    EDIT: For those of you who are curious here is the photo of the plate and my standard curve.
    EDIT: As pointed out by the submitter MyProtein has a fine print that says cocoa in chocolate flavored protein makes the actual protein content %8 less than the unflavored one. We measured the chocolate version so I adjusted the claimed protein per serving from 19.6g to 18g. This pushed the reading to 90%.
    EDIT: No, I'm not taking any more submissions. If I plan I'll post another call. In the meantime are there any other gym-rat/lab-rat that wants to take over?
    EDIT: There has been very valuable suggestions in the comments by people who are more experienced than me in the lab. If anyone wants to do something similar in the future here are some thing we have learned:
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    Seek for alternative assays (total nitrogen, Kjeldahl, HPLC etc.)
    If you are going to add detergent (which I didn't), make sure that your assay is compatible with that.
    EDIT: Gaspari posted an official response.
    FINAL EDIT: I would like to add one last comment. This experimentation created thousands of comments around the net, especially in bb.com forums. Many people raised concerns about the testing methods, many raised concerns about Gaspari products. I want to state that I know me doing this is ridiculous. But it is not ridiculous because my testing method has a large margin of error (of course it does) but because I am the only one in the world that does this. Please reflect on the status quo rather than single outing Gaspari. Here is a billion dollar industry and no qualified third party is doing a comparative analysis and customers don't seem to care. Can you imagine a world where CPUs and GPUs are not benchmarked? Of course some benchmarking methods are flawed or not suitable for certain products but that is not the point. Somebody should do it and it had to start somewhere. Let's push places like Cosumer Reports, large fitness websites or magazines to do this properly. I hope my effort can raise enough awareness. That is my only wish. So long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    stomach issues = powder full of sugar. look at Reflex or USN.
    So right. . . . I am done taking down all shit bag weigh gainers. Syntha = Garbage, Muscle Milk = Slightly less garbage and the rest follow.

    I am just using low carb whey and egg protein from now on. If I want whey gainer I will just eat chicken with a avocado or something.

    The "weight gainer" crap gave me mad craps like no other.

    Junk. . . .

    Anyone wanna buy some? I have like 50 pounds of Syntha and other crap.. . . . lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    stomach issues = powder full of sugar. look at Reflex or USN.

    whatever you do dont touch Inner armour, worse fvcking crap on the planet!!
    How come?

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    I've really had to back off protein powders..i only had them maybe 2x or 3x a week - but the killed me.

    i found Perfect Whey, although cheaper - didn't kill me like the rest.

    IsoFlex for me sat well on the stomach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulkn View Post
    How come?
    full of sugar, destroyed my stomach from morn till night and ive the constitution of an ox! horrible stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    So right. . . . I am done taking down all shit bag weigh gainers. Syntha = Garbage, Muscle Milk = Slightly less garbage and the rest follow.

    I am just using low carb whey and egg protein from now on. If I want whey gainer I will just eat chicken with a avocado or something.

    The "weight gainer" crap gave me mad craps like no other.

    Junk. . . .

    Anyone wanna buy some? I have like 50 pounds of Syntha and other crap.. . . . lol
    best weight gainer is quality time released prtein and 100grms fine cut oats in 500ml water, in the shaker and down the hatch. job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11;6197***
    best weight gainer is quality time released prtein and 100grms fine cut oats in 500ml water, in the shaker and down the hatch. job done.
    sounds delicious.... what time released protein do you suggest? (caesin?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicotine View Post
    sounds delicious.... what time released protein do you suggest? (caesin?)
    i use USN's blend, its called IGF-1. very nice shake with no discomfort at all, very creamy with some semi skimmed milk

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    i'll check into it. thanks dec11!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11
    stomach issues = powder full of sugar. look at Reflex or USN.

    whatever you do dont touch Inner armour, worse fvcking crap on the planet!!
    usn also contained less then advertised, ill dig that thread up and link it

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    Optimum Nutrition has good reviews. I use their Gold Standard 100% Whey powder. Good stuff.

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    I'm not sure if MyProtein.com deliver to the US, but I can safely say its about the only stuff I have tried that doesn't make me have the shits.
    Reflex, USN, Colossus and Maximuscle all make me sick.

    Just my two cents!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    usn also contained less then advertised, ill dig that thread up and link it
    i think they all do mate then they notch it up to, manufacturing process and dampness etc from when the jar is opened, fire in some semi skimmed milk and it adds on the few 'missing' grms.

    if its a big diff though, then back to Reflex i go, although its gotten crazy expensive in Dublin all of a sudden, for some strange reason?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    I'm not sure if MyProtein.com deliver to the US, but I can safely say its about the only stuff I have tried that doesn't make me have the shits.
    Reflex, USN, Colossus and Maximuscle all make me sick.

    Just my two cents!

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    you must have some sort of intolerance possibly? i find USN and Reflex the best of all, dont make me gassy at all unlike some of the other dodgy brands that go on special alot, ie that Inner Armour shite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11
    you must have some sort of intolerance possibly? i find USN and Reflex the best of all, dont make me gassy at all unlike some of the other dodgy brands that go on special alot, ie that Inner Armour shite.
    Maybe sick was a slight over exaggeration. But anything more than 1 shake with those I just find I need to use the bathroom more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11
    i think they all do mate then they notch it up to, manufacturing process and dampness etc from when the jar is opened, fire in some semi skimmed milk and it adds on the few 'missing' grms.

    if its a big diff though, then back to Reflex i go, although its gotten crazy expensive in Dublin all of a sudden, for some strange reason?????
    i can send you a link for 5kg ON gold standard for 80euro
    if you like, you wont get cheaper

    synth6 is about 40euro 2.27kg tub

    they the only two that actually contain what they claim

    the shops cant compete with those prices
    Last edited by DanB; 10-07-2012 at 12:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanB View Post
    i can send you a link for 5kg ON gold standard for 80euro
    if you like, you wont get cheaper

    synth6 is about 40euro 2.27kg tub

    they the only two that actually contain what they claim

    the shops cant compete with those prices
    holy fvck!! link me!

    is the link backofalorry.com? lmao

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    haha no they legit, personally i use backofalorry.com and it even cheaper

    all the shops do is buy from these sites and add 50%

    check your inbox in 2-3hrs

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    I have used Optimum for years and love it.no stomach problems.

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    I like my whey from true nutrition, has nothing else in it, and I can mix it as I please.

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    thnaks for all the info guys

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