Not sure if I should post this in Q&A or the lounge since this sort of pertains to both, and it's an important message for everyone both new guys and the vets as well. A buddy of mine i've known since highschool just had a heart attack at 3am last night, and he's 27. I just received word from him now as he just got released from the hospital. He IS an AAS user and has been for years, and he's a big mother. As I said, he's out of the hospital now and doing OK.
Now I just want to note that this is no attack on AAS use being the sole cause, but it is likely the icing on the cake. My friend has knowingly had anxiety and high blood pressure issues his whole life, and he's had A LOT of high stress personal issues lately, the 8000 calories a day he is ingesting, he didn't sleep since Saturday (it is Monday night as of the writing of this post), and so he was doing cardio at 3am last night when BANG. You combine AAS with all of that and that's the slipperiest slope you can go down.
If you're someone here who knowingly has any of the following: anxiety, high blood pressure, hypertension, obesity, bad cholesterol profiles, or any other medical condition - LISTEN TO THE VETS ON HERE when we tell you that cycling AAS is not for you at this time. If you're obese (20% bodyfat or higher), stay away from AAS and even things like Clenbuterol. Make improvements that will stabilize your vital signs FIRST before taking any 'super supplements'.
Make sure that you've got a stable life and environment before you start to juice. If you're leading a very stressful life at the moment, things are hectic, you aren't getting solid sleep each night, and so on and so forth... then maybe it's time to lay off the AAS cycling at the moment until things settle down and the dust clears. And ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS have bloodwork done before and after cycles. Otherwise you're just shooting in the dark blind. I know this isn't an option for everyone here, but you don't always need to tell your doc that you're using AAS - you can request simple basic bloodwork that will at the very least dictate your lipid profiles, your liver and kidney function, and a vast amount of other things that is important to know where your body is at whether or not you are doing AAS. EVERYONE benefits from this.
There's nothing like a heart attack at 27 years old to put things into perspective for you!
And my buddy wasn't some huge fat obese guy. Here he is,
I'm just going to copy and paste a post here I frequently repeat to a lot of the younger guys looking to start AAS in the Q&A section, as I cannot repeat this enough and I feel that it pertains perfectly to this situation i've just described:
I get PMs from people every day asking me to help them with their cycles and what not, and i'm always more than happy to help. But I have had the odd person who proposes some absolutely preposterous cycle plan to me... I had one guy PM me a long while ago asking me how his cycle looked, and if I can remember correctly it was 5 compounds (yes, FIVE) consisting of Test, Tren, EQ, Winstrol and some other oral, I can't remember which he mentioned. And this was only the guy's second ever cycle!! THREE compounds in my opinion is still even too much, but 3 is what I would put the absolute limit on. Especially if you are running an oral anabolic. I don't think a lot of people realize the amount of damage on the body that these things cause when you end up abusing this stuff. AAS use for physique/performance enhancement is NOT A SAFE PRACTICE.The truth is, the potential side effects of steroid use are MOSTLY dose and duration related. Unfortunately, it's that very fact that prompts a lot of these guys here (mostly the new guys, but it even plagues experienced vets as well) to consider this particular drug use an almost benign endeavor. No one thinks they take too much. Everyone believes they have things under control. Problems only happen to the "other guy." And it's very very easy to go down that very slippery slope of thinking, and think that what you're doing is okay or that you're never taking too much just because you 'haven't had any problems so far'.
Attempting to set a guideline for responsible use of steroids isn't unlike setting boundaries for responsible alcohol use - it's too ambiguous and open to interpretation. No one ever wakes up one morning and says; "I'm going to be an alcoholic!" But it happens to millions of people each year. The same can be said for steroid use . Thousands upon thousands of men and women have sworn "I want to do just ONE cycle !" or "i'll never do more than X mg per week or stack more than X amount of compounds". Nice try. But once you've dipped into that bag of tricks, it's difficult to resist its allure and subsequent cycles are almost sure to follow. The better the gains, the greater the temptation to push the envelope further. And once you get used to feeling like Superman, it's tough to go back to being David Spade. That's when you've got a problem, whether you're willing to admit it or not. The only sane approach to steroid use, for those of us who've already decided to take the plunge, is to use them in a judicious fashion following certain stipulations. An example of those stipulations being: stack no more than 2 compounds at any given time, no more than one oral run in any one given cycle, and if you can't make gains off of less than 1000mg/week of total steroids then its time to call it quits!
Once again, parameters become blurred by the individual's ability to rationalize. A tweak here and an alteration there won't make much of a difference, will it? Maybe. Maybe not. But only by staying within the boundaries can you be sure to avoid contraindications.
At the end of the day, just be as safe as you possibly can and please use common sense. If it crosses your mind that you might be using too much, or running too many compounds, then you probably are! Listen to what your body is telling you, and what your subconscious is telling you. Don't end up like my buddy.
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