**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[kelkel]

Why do you think getting cut might be a better alternative, Kel? I'm curious myself b/c I know your very versed in anatomy/physiology.

Well, the range Ortho #1 gave me on the tear is 25 - 50%. From my readings and various conversations with other doc's (non-ortho's) as well as guys who've been through it (BG's was a total tear) everything seems to point to repairing it. Especially if the tear is near 50%. With the MRI I don't really see why they can't narrow down the percentage torn, although I'm not super familiar with reading MRI's and have no desire to become efficent at it unless someone pays me.

I also don't think (I could be wrong) that Ortho #1 is taking into consideration how I train. That or maybe he's just conservative. But I don't want to have to baby it and constantly feel like I'm now training with half a tendon, even though it may have healed properly. Seems like it's just another tear waiting to happen this way. He also said basically let's see how it goes and if it still hurts or tears more (or completely) then we can fix it at that time with no issues. Thanks Doc for that thought. Just sounds like it's delaying the inevitable to me. BG said the same in a pm.

So, right now I'm just of the mindset that fixing it is the best option for me. If Ortho #2 on Tuesday concurs with #1 then I guess I'd have to stick to their plan. I don't want to be 100% healed with 50% of a bicep tendon. I'd rather the ratio be 100/100.

[GirlyGymRat]

I vote for fixing it!

[GirlyGymRat]

Treadmill Warm up, planks, crunches then legs. Had to use smith for squats and lunges since squat racks occupied by supersetters. I didn't mind smith. Actually preferred.

DOMS within 6 hours. Happy to get in a workout.

[marcus300]

Training is down for me at the moment

I'm making myself way tooooooo busy

I'll be back

Wednesday

[clarky.]

Happens to me as well, Cape. Practically every pullback I end up wondering WTF, this was supposed to be a type of deload and CNS renewal time.
Guess it just shows that the body tries to adapt to the behind failure lifting and when you drop back to more volume/no beyond failure training, the body has to adapt again?

A know, just goes to show how fast the bodies adapt to one style of training.

Happens to me too I'm glad I'm hearing this b/c I was always wondering if I was pulling back enough?

Defo x2 Big guy.

I am in bits when doing a pullback and i lift no where near the weight i life when doing HIT. Volume is hi though as yous see, Just like you say AG its just change.

[clarky.]

Morning Fellas/Ladies. Going to try and get a wee bit legs done the day. Ma gym shuts at half four at the wk ends so we'll see. Feeling good and ready for a new wk.

[clarky.]

Training is down for me at the moment

I'm making myself way tooooooo busy

I'll be back

Wednesday

Take it easy Big man.

[NACH3]

What's up Marcus Ag Clarky cape Song and you other freaks !

Good day arms are fukin torched!! Love it!

Report back later

[NACH3]

Well, the range Ortho #1 gave me on the tear is 25 - 50%. From my readings and various conversations with other doc's (non-ortho's) as well as guys who've been through it (BG's was a total tear) everything seems to point to repairing it. Especially if the tear is near 50%. With the MRI I don't really see why they can't narrow down the percentage torn, although I'm not super familiar with reading MRI's and have no desire to become efficent at it unless someone pays me.

I also don't think (I could be wrong) that Ortho #1 is taking into consideration how I train. That or maybe he's just conservative. But I don't want to have to baby it and constantly feel like I'm now training with half a tendon, even though it may have healed properly. Seems like it's just another tear waiting to happen this way. He also said basically let's see how it goes and if it still hurts or tears more (or completely) then we can fix it at that time with no issues. Thanks Doc for that thought. Just sounds like it's delaying the inevitable to me. BG said the same in a pm.

So, right now I'm just of the mindset that fixing it is the best option for me. If Ortho #2 on Tuesday concurs with #1 then I guess I'd have to stick to their plan. I don't want to be 100% healed with 50% of a bicep tendon. I'd rather the ratio be 100/100.

Makes a whole lotta sense coming out like this... how the hell can he not take your training into consideration.... sounds oblivious!

[almostgone]

Morning Fellas/Ladies. Going to try and get a wee bit legs done the day. Ma gym shuts at half four at the wk ends so we'll see. Feeling good and ready for a new wk.

X2 on working legs today. Just finished up my shake.

After that, a quick shower then off for a haircut. May possibly have a couple of inches taken off my braid, it's getting a tad long and worrisome.

[almostgone]

Well, I see the other surgeon this Tuesday at 145pm for a second opinion then I'm supposed to start PT at 5pm the same day. Unless of course the surgeon recommends strongly that I do get cut, then there's really no point in PT I would assume. Personally surgery makes sense to me but if this new guy says PT is the right course (after reviewing MRI) then I guess PT it will be. I've never hoped for surgery before, seems odd. Well, other than calf and penis reduction. They get cumbersome.

Yes sir, no point starting PT until after surgery if that is the better option! Defo keep us updated on this, Kel.

[AKD_FitChick]

Morning Marcus, Nach, AG, Cape, Kel, Song and GGR, I am here reading daily!!!! Today is day 3 of pullback with working out. It is so hard to train your body to lift lower weights. It's a nice change, but I love the heavy lifting and failure.....it's addicting lol!

Doing legs today. Will still exhaust them, but lower weight and higher reps!

Nach your training is looking awesome.

I haven't felt that crazy soreness yet, I feel like I am not pushing enough, but it's a pullback? So for instance on chest yesterday I did peck deck and insteD of Doing 170, I did 100lbs for 12 reps or so for 3 sets.....but no soreness. Should it be harder? 100 is a lower weight for me on peck deck. If I remember correctly cape said 1/2 weight of normal, but i am not feeling it.....like you all. Just thoughts.


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[NACH3]

Morning Marcus, Nach, AG, Cape, Kel, Song and GGR, I am here reading daily!!!! Today is day 3 of pullback with working out. It is so hard to train your body to lift lower weights. It's a nice change, but I love the heavy lifting and failure.....it's addicting lol!

Doing legs today. Will still exhaust them, but lower weight and higher reps!

Nach your training is looking awesome.

I haven't felt that crazy soreness yet, I feel like I am not pushing enough, but it's a pullback? So for instance on chest yesterday I did peck deck and insteD of Doing 170, I did 100lbs for 12 reps or so for 3 sets.....but no soreness. Should it be harder? 100 is a lower weight for me on peck deck. If I remember correctly cape said 1/2 weight of normal, but i am not feeling it.....like you all. Just thoughts.


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Thank you D! It's pure HIT time -- I appreciate you taking notice as well

Your gonna have to go by your feeler sets just hitting a higher rep range I would definitely not cut the weight in half tho... no need imho!! I'd be doing 12-15+ on working sets! Usually we keep em at 2-3working sets but those 12-15 aren't to failure just shy of it(maybe 2 reps shy but still struggling ya know!

[AKD_FitChick]

Thank you D! It's pure HIT time -- I appreciate you taking notice as well

Your gonna have to go by your feeler sets just hitting a higher rep range I would definitely not cut the weight in half tho... no need imho!! I'd be doing 12-15+ on working sets! Usually we keep em at 2-3working sets but those 12-15 aren't to failure just shy of it(maybe 2 reps shy but still struggling ya know!

Got it! So push it, but not crazy. So feeler set still, 2-3 working sets and 12-15! I got that!!! I can do that! Legs I am coming for you. Thanks for the break down!

I am sure I misunderstood Cape. Texting/messages are hard to read sometimes.

Thanks Nach for giving me details before I head into gym

Any thoughts on ECA? Just curious? Good fat burner or don't need it really? Heard lots about it.


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[almostgone]

Man, the humidity is f-in brutal today, but I'll acclimate. LOL, no choice to do otherwise in the South. Was moving a tad slow day, but again, I blame it on the humidity. Did manage a new weight on leg presses.

1 set of crunches
Leg extensions- 2 w/u. Work- 18+, drop,7+, drop, 11+. A slow 10 count hold on all partial reps.
Hacks- 2 w/u, Work-12, rest pause, 4, rest pause, 2.
Reverse hacks- 1 w/u, Work- 11, rest pause, 3, rest pause, 1.
Let press- 1 w/u, Work1 ( feet wide)- 12 rest pause, 4, rest pause, 2. New weight on these. Work2-(feet narrow)- 9, rest pause, 4.
Standing calf raises w/ a double pump @ the top- Work- 12+, rest pause, 5+, rest pause, 4+.
Seated leg curls- Work- 12,drop,8,drop,7+. A slow 10 count hold on the partial reps.

61 minutes including stripping the plates. The squat rack will be a real no-shitter this summer in my shop which is only cooled by fans and open windows and doors. Have a feeling I will have to bump my potassium dosage back up by July or August.

[almostgone]

Morning Marcus, Nach, AG, Cape, Kel, Song and GGR, I am here reading daily!!!! Today is day 3 of pullback with working out. It is so hard to train your body to lift lower weights. It's a nice change, but I love the heavy lifting and failure.....it's addicting lol!

Doing legs today. Will still exhaust them, but lower weight and higher reps!

Nach your training is looking awesome.

I haven't felt that crazy soreness yet, I feel like I am not pushing enough, but it's a pullback? So for instance on chest yesterday I did peck deck and insteD of Doing 170, I did 100lbs for 12 reps or so for 3 sets.....but no soreness. Should it be harder? 100 is a lower weight for me on peck deck. If I remember correctly cape said 1/2 weight of normal, but i am not feeling it.....like you all. Just thoughts.


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Just go to failure and don't use the beyond failure tools on a pullback. I think everyone does a slightly different version on a pullback and even HIT, but do stay within the general HIT scheme. I'm finding that for full HIT on legs and arms, a slightly higher rep range seems to work better for me, but my back seems to like grinding out low to middle range on reps.
During a pullback, I do as Nach posted, and find the weight where I crap put at 8-10 reps or so and if that doesn't satisfy me, I will drop an amount of weight that will allow me to jump into another set for another 8-10 reps. You may find that over time, you develop/tweak things to suit your body and recovery.
Don't fret over it too much, because you are doing very well.

[GirlyGymRat]

45 minutes Hiit during cycle class. Guest instructor. He was awesome!

Happy Sunday!

[AKD_FitChick]

Just go to failure and don't use the beyond failure tools on a pullback. I think everyone does a slightly different version on a pullback and even HIT, but do stay within the general HIT scheme. I'm finding that for full HIT on legs and arms, a slightly higher rep range seems to work better for me, but my back seems to like grinding out low to middle range on reps.
During a pullback, I do as Nach posted, and find the weight where I crap put at 8-10 reps or so and if that doesn't satisfy me, I will drop an amount of weight that will allow me to jump into another set for another 8-10 reps. You may find that over time, you develop/tweak things to suit your body and recovery.
Don't fret over it too much, because you are doing very well.

Thanks AG so much for that!!! I am headed soon and am going to try it all out


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[AKD_FitChick]

Man, the humidity is f-in brutal today, but I'll acclimate. LOL, no choice to do otherwise in the South. Was moving a tad slow day, but again, I blame it on the humidity. Did manage a new weight on leg presses.

1 set of crunches
Leg extensions- 2 w/u. Work- 18+, drop,7+, drop, 11+. A slow 10 count hold on all partial reps.
Hacks- 2 w/u, Work-12, rest pause, 4, rest pause, 2.
Reverse hacks- 1 w/u, Work- 11, rest pause, 3, rest pause, 1.
Let press- 1 w/u, Work1 ( feet wide)- 12 rest pause, 4, rest pause, 2. New weight on these. Work2-(feet narrow)- 9, rest pause, 4.
Standing calf raises w/ a double pump @ the top- Work- 12+, rest pause, 5+, rest pause, 4+.
Seated leg curls- Work- 12,drop,8,drop,7+. A slow 10 count hold on the partial reps.

61 minutes including stripping the plates. The squat rack will be a real no-shitter this summer in my shop which is only cooled by fans and open windows and doors. Have a feeling I will have to bump my potassium dosage back up by July or August.

Great lift everyone is rocking!


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[AKD_FitChick]

45 minutes Hiit during cycle class. Guest instructor. He was awesome!

Happy Sunday!

Yippee for you!!! Love having you


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[songdog]

Good morning Marcus Cape Nach Ag D GGR Clarky busy day late start

[almostgone]

Great lift everyone is rocking!


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Thank you, ma'am. Hope your lift is A-1 as well!

[almostgone]

Oh, this was a good lift! Have that dull, cold ache in my legs and occasionally get a few spasms. Hmmm, maybe I can hobble down to the shop early in the morning and molest my arms.

[clarky.]

Man, the humidity is f-in brutal today, but I'll acclimate. LOL, no choice to do otherwise in the South. Was moving a tad slow day, but again, I blame it on the humidity. Did manage a new weight on leg presses.

1 set of crunches
Leg extensions- 2 w/u. Work- 18+, drop,7+, drop, 11+. A slow 10 count hold on all partial reps.
Hacks- 2 w/u, Work-12, rest pause, 4, rest pause, 2.
Reverse hacks- 1 w/u, Work- 11, rest pause, 3, rest pause, 1.
Let press- 1 w/u, Work1 ( feet wide)- 12 rest pause, 4, rest pause, 2. New weight on these. Work2-(feet narrow)- 9, rest pause, 4.
Standing calf raises w/ a double pump @ the top- Work- 12+, rest pause, 5+, rest pause, 4+.
Seated leg curls- Work- 12,drop,8,drop,7+. A slow 10 count hold on the partial reps.

61 minutes including stripping the plates. The squat rack will be a real no-shitter this summer in my shop which is only cooled by fans and open windows and doors. Have a feeling I will have to bump my potassium dosage back up by July or August.

Nice session mate.

[Sfla80]

Good afternoon everyone!

Hot one today...98 degrees here plus humidity. Wow, gonna be a long summer.

Got arms in this morning.

V bar pd
Rope pd
Single db incline skulls
Single db French press

Incline db curls
Seated db hammer curls
ISO bent over db curl

Just got back from lunch with my pops. He's having by pass surgery Tuesday .

Hope everyone stays safe this weekend


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[almostgone]

Good afternoon everyone!

Hot one today...98 degrees here plus humidity. Wow, gonna be a long summer.

Got arms in this morning.

V bar pd
Rope pd
Single db incline skulls
Single db French press

Incline db curls
Seated db hammer curls
ISO bent over db curl

Just got back from lunch with my pops. He's having by pass surgery Tuesday .

Hope everyone stays safe this weekend


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Nice lift, Sfla. Best wishes to your Dad. Make sure you get enough rest as well, you know you will be running yourself ragged checking on him.
How much blockage does he have?

[almostgone]

Nice session mate.

Thanks, buddy. Did you have a chance to get in legs today?

[Sfla80]

Nice lift, Sfla. Best wishes to your Dad. Make sure you get enough rest as well, you know you will be running yourself ragged checking on him.
How much blockage does he have?

Yeah man. Between seeing him and work. Taking care of mom will be tough. Then my surgery next week lol.

75-80%. Tried to stint it, but was rock solid. They couldn't break through :/.


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[almostgone]

Yeah man. Between seeing him and work. Taking care of mom will be tough. Then my surgery next week lol.

75-80%. Tried to stint it, but was rock solid. They couldn't break through :/.


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Hang in there, man. They are pretty good on bypass surgery these days. . Defo get as much rest as possible. Set the gym to the side for a few weeks if you don't need to lift for stress relief. You have a lot going on right now and the gym will be there later on.
Prayers and positive thoughts for you and your family, buddy!

[clarky.]

Thanks, buddy. Did you have a chance to get in legs today?

Yes mate, quick 25-30min. Nothing great mate you know i never really post about them lol. Just because i can't go heavy at all so it's nothing to right about.

[clarky.]

Good afternoon everyone!

Hot one today...98 degrees here plus humidity. Wow, gonna be a long summer.

Got arms in this morning.

V bar pd
Rope pd
Single db incline skulls
Single db French press

Incline db curls
Seated db hammer curls
ISO bent over db curl

Just got back from lunch with my pops. He's having by pass surgery Tuesday .

Hope everyone stays safe this weekend


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Nice session mate, sorry about the news Sfla best wishes to your pops. All will be well.

[almostgone]

Yes mate, quick 25-30min. Nothing great mate you know i never really post about them lol. Just because i can't go heavy at all so it's nothing to right about.

I know what you mean. That's the way I'm feeling about my pressing right now. My weights are pathetic, but I'm trying to work through or around it. I get frustrated at times, but I refuse to give up on it. Guess being stubborn, a ginger, and a redneck just won't let me quit.

[almostgone]

Dang, I'm so hungry that I feel like my insides are about to cave in.
9 oz. of grilled flank steak, grilled eggplant, grilled leeks, and a small red potato with a tablespoon of fat free plain Chobani yogurt.

[Capebuffalo]

Thank you D! It's pure HIT time -- I appreciate you taking notice as well

Your gonna have to go by your feeler sets just hitting a higher rep range I would definitely not cut the weight in half tho... no need imho!! I'd be doing 12-15+ on working sets! Usually we keep em at 2-3working sets but those 12-15 aren't to failure just shy of it(maybe 2 reps shy but still struggling ya know!

She was sick as hell refusing to not go to the gym. So yes I told her 1/2 the weight to let her work out but not make herself sicker. And have some recovery / rest. She had been to the doc twice at this point. She's still on a Z pack. She doesn't need to be going all out at this point.
D- you didn't misunderstand. I was looking out for your health.

[AKD_FitChick]

She was sick as hell refusing to not go to the gym. So yes I told her 1/2 the weight to let her work out but not make herself sicker. And have some recovery / rest.
D- you didn't misunderstand. I was looking out for your health.

You know I appreciate you always!!


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[almostgone]

She was sick as hell refusing to not go to the gym. So yes I told her 1/2 the weight to let her work out but not make herself sicker. And have some recovery / rest. She had been to the doc twice at this point. She's still on a Z pack. She doesn't need to be going all out at this point.
D- you didn't misunderstand. I was looking out for your health.

Absolutely correct. When I posted my take on a pullback above, I wasn't taking into account that she has been ill recently. She probably needs to spend her time in the steam room if she goes to the gym at all.
Definitely doesn't need to push it too much while sick and run down. It will put a screeching halt to any gains and more than likely she'll end up with less than she had and still will be in a deficit as far as energy and recovery.
Have tried working through being sick before and kept pushing myself. Ended up in a very bad place.
Good point, Cape!

[AKD_FitChick]

Absolutely correct. When I posted my take on a pullback above, I wasn't taking into account that she has been ill recently. She probably needs to spend her time in the steam room if she goes to the gym at all.
Definitely doesn't need to push it too much while sick and run down. It will put a screeching halt to any gains and more than likely she'll end up with less than she had and still will be in a deficit as far as energy and recovery.
Have tried working through being sick before and kept pushing myself. Ended up in a very bad place.
Good point, Cape!

I am way better though and will not push if I don't feel up to it. I had pneumonia 2x last year back to back to back cause I didn't take it easy. This time I am being safe. Since I am likely to get it again.

You all are the best for watching out for me


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[almostgone]

I am way better though and will not push if I don't feel up to it. I had pneumonia 2x last year back to back to back cause I didn't take it easy. This time I am being safe. Since I am likely to get it again.

You all are the best for watching out for me


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You are absolutely correct about that. Once you catch pneumonia, you are definitely more prone to get it again. I take both of the pneumonia vaccines now because pneumonia was the start of things that almost put me in skull orchard. Unfortunately, I think they are only good for ~ 1/3 of the pneumococcal bacteria strains.

[Capebuffalo]

I am way better though and will not push if I don't feel up to it. I had pneumonia 2x last year back to back to back cause I didn't take it easy. This time I am being safe. Since I am likely to get it again.

You all are the best for watching out for me


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Way better but not All better. There's a huge difference between the two. You're sick, just ended your cycle and on a pullback. Take it the fvck easy.

[clarky.]

Morning Fellas/Ladies, Arms the day. Still pullback, really looking forward to it.

Blast started yesterday, Tren A 400mg wk No test just TRT same as last time. Loved it and went great. 50mcg T3 day.