**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Capebuffalo]

Sometimes/often I suffer with the same thought patterns, Cape. The only thing I have found that helps somewhat is to do some mental housecleaning. Dump your brain as much as possible, get a little pissed, and go in and attack the plates. Don't worry about the numbers, that's the young man's game.
Don't know if it will work for you, but hope it helps.

Thanks AG. Seems like my mind is always working. Had to start taking a sleep aid to keep from waking up at 3 am thinking about things I need to do.

[Capebuffalo]

Good morning everyone just sitting here drinking my coffee then my morning walk.Happy Birthday Cape you old goat!

Thx Song

[songdog]

Very nice, GGR in the house nice to see your still around

Yeah she stops by in between vacations when she isn't on vacation she is planning one

[kelkel]

Physical less than a year ago. Full blood work has been a while.

Why don't you pull some panels if your state allows it?

[Capebuffalo]

Why don't you pull some panels if your state allows it?

I'll do private md lab. What are you thinking is off?

[hollowedzeus]

Happy birthday cape. Have a good one big guy

[kelkel]

Well, my initial thoughts would be:

CBC
CMP
TSH-FT3, FT4, RT3
Cortisol
TT/FT since you're there.

Anxiety/stress can have wide ranging implications and you're throwing darts without at least some BW. Life gets busy and impacts all of us. Maybe you're just a little burnt out and need to get better rest or need to take a few days off and re-energize. Really hard to tell Cape. Maybe your CNS just needs a break?

[TRA]

Nice to hear you had a good workout, just remember when you are about to start a working set think to yourself, this is it I cant fail I have to go past my body defense and push through that pain and into that growth phase and go to absolute failure. Forget about the drops, rest pause, force or negs the only things on your mind is total failure the advanced movements like forced and negs or drops come after you hit total failure. Don't put in your mind ive got to do these otherwise you'll stop before failure hits so you can perform the drops or forced. These are just a bonus few reps into deep growth but the true concept is going to failure on that set so your body as no alternative but to grow

Thanks much marcus - I will continue to try and focus on that. Funny how the head is, right? It's like it's own little lazy bastard. Sometimes I start a set and my head says "you'll only get 8 reps" and many times that is exactly what I get. I want to just yell "shut up!" But that might get me some strange looks in the gym. So now I just ignore it or use it as fuel to make certain I get more than what it tells me. I think it's a matter of retraining the mind just like you said. Thanks for taking time to comment, greatly appreciated.

[TRA]

Good morning all. Turned 45 yesterday. For several weeks I've had little motivation and little desire in the gym. I get there and can't get my mind into it. I think about work family life and am ready to leave. I can't lift the numbers I used to. I think that's what bothers me the most. Where there were 4-5 plates there are 2 and it's heavy. I'm in the parking lot waiting to go in. I'm going through the motions but I can't get my soul behind it. Hope this changes soon. A bit depressing. This is what I do. Love to do. Now the passion isn't there.

Just wanted to share.

I went through that exact thing after my knee surgery. It felt like something out of a movie where I was just getting progressively older and weaker each passing week. Motivation was at a low and I felt worse after leaving the gym sometimes than before I got there. For me it was simply attributable to waning test levels and a bunch of personal stuff with my divorce, child custody, girlfriend and work issues. I failed to protect the sanctuary of the gym. Unfortunately there was no immediate answer but the good news is it did pass. I changed up my routine, got some nutrition in order and started attacking life again. Even warriors need down time and for me if I don't recognize that I suffer even worse. Nature is a good healer for me and I am lucky to have great hikes in beautiful Sonoran desert 20-30 minutes from my door even living in a big city. Hang in there man, it's a storm and it will pass.
Happy belated birthday!

[almostgone]

Ah, shit. Happy b'day, Cape!!!

[NACH3]

Ah, shit. Happy b'day, Cape!!!

X2 I did mention it earlier if you missed it Cape!

[NACH3]

I went through that exact thing after my knee surgery. It felt like something out of a movie where I was just getting progressively older and weaker each passing week. Motivation was at a low and I felt worse after leaving the gym sometimes than before I got there. For me it was simply attributable to waning test levels and a bunch of personal stuff with my divorce, child custody, girlfriend and work issues. I failed to protect the sanctuary of the gym. Unfortunately there was no immediate answer but the good news is it did pass. I changed up my routine, got some nutrition in order and started attacking life again. Even warriors need down time and for me if I don't recognize that I suffer even worse. Nature is a good healer for me and I am lucky to have great hikes in beautiful Sonoran desert 20-30 minutes from my door even living in a big city. Hang in there man, it's a storm and it will pass.
Happy belated birthday!

I know what you mean by going to the gym and actually feeling worse(no endorphins at all) giving me more ideas that I had lowT and then just the damn wellbeing and memory loss foggy brain couldn't think or comprehend shit... my legs felt like I had none under me!
Just my .02 on the above part it was horrific!

[almostgone]

Thanks AG. Seems like my mind is always working. Had to start taking a sleep aid to keep from waking up at 3 am thinking about things I need to do.

Yes sir, I know what you mean about that. I sometimes have to take a Xanax for the same reason although it isn't very often. Generally, I reserve the occasional Xanax for work related crap and take a sip of spring water, if anything.
I'm going to strongly second what Kel posted about the complete workup, especially the comprehensive hormone panel and cortisol testing. Any recent issues with an increase in your BP from your norm or feeling like your glucose is bottoming out?
Once you get some answers it makes it a lot easier to correct the problem.

Hang in there, Cape. The fall football weather is just around the corner in our area. That will put a spring in your step!

[Capebuffalo]

I went through that exact thing after my knee surgery. It felt like something out of a movie where I was just getting progressively older and weaker each passing week. Motivation was at a low and I felt worse after leaving the gym sometimes than before I got there. For me it was simply attributable to waning test levels and a bunch of personal stuff with my divorce, child custody, girlfriend and work issues. I failed to protect the sanctuary of the gym. Unfortunately there was no immediate answer but the good news is it did pass. I changed up my routine, got some nutrition in order and started attacking life again. Even warriors need down time and for me if I don't recognize that I suffer even worse. Nature is a good healer for me and I am lucky to have great hikes in beautiful Sonoran desert 20-30 minutes from my door even living in a big city. Hang in there man, it's a storm and it will pass.
Happy belated birthday!

Thanks AZ. It sounds very familiar. It just seems I don't have control on any aspect of my life. I've been going and talking to someone. I don't know if it's helping or hindering. According to her burning feelings isn't health but I've felt better when keeping them buried. Lol

[almostgone]

Time to crash. Just finished a big f-in salad w/9 oz of chicken breast and a cup of cantaloupe.
Also, did the whole blood donation earlier.

Catch up w/ y'all later on.

[marcus300]

Thanks AG. Seems like my mind is always working. Had to start taking a sleep aid to keep from waking up at 3 am thinking about things I need to do.

I know how you feel, I run at 100mph with all the stuff happening in my life work and personal. Ive had to dig deep but I will own up its hard battle for me but I will come back hopefully and be 100% Marcus again

[Capebuffalo]

Thanks AG and Nacho on the birthday wishes.

AG I have been getting hypoglycemic easier and more often. Cooler weather would help I think. I'm ready.

[NACH3]

I know how you feel, I run at 100mph with all the stuff happening in my life work and personal. Ive had to dig deep but I will own up its hard battle for me but I will come back hopefully and be 100% Marcus again

I'm the same... I can't turn my mind off At night it's like I'm a prisoner of my own mind - I've been meditating which is helping each night focusing on my breath and if a thought comes in to my head I focus on my breathing and send it off etc

[marcus300]

Thanks much marcus - I will continue to try and focus on that. Funny how the head is, right? It's like it's own little lazy bastard. Sometimes I start a set and my head says "you'll only get 8 reps" and many times that is exactly what I get. I want to just yell "shut up!" But that might get me some strange looks in the gym. So now I just ignore it or use it as fuel to make certain I get more than what it tells me. I think it's a matter of retraining the mind just like you said. Thanks for taking time to comment, greatly appreciated.

Win the mind games and you will see huge developments, everything starts in the mind. How would your feel if your on your last rep and you can finish it but then you have me screaming in your ear that I will knock fuk out of your knee cap with this hammer if you don't finish it and I tap your knee just to let you know. What do you think you will do ? adrenalin will instantly flow and you will do more than finish the rep you will do more. That adrenalin flow I can tap into through my mind of thinking about things in my life and past, I can get to that level within seconds and then I start my set. I try my best to never waste sets or reps. But always remember to always take a pullback from training every 6 wks or so or when your body tells you, don't do what I do what I says trust me on this one!!

[marcus300]

I'm the same... I can't turn my mind off At night it's like I'm a prisoner of my own mind - I've been meditating which is helping each night focusing on my breath and if a thought comes in to my head I focus on my breathing and send it off etc

I am still mastering "Mindfulness" and practising it when I can but you have to find the tool what help you, ive tried many things NLP, CBT and many more what I am trained in but I do rate Mindfulness at the moment but time is the killer for me

[NACH3]

Thanks AZ. It sounds very familiar. It just seems I don't have control on any aspect of my life. I've been going and talking to someone. I don't know if it's helping or hindering. According to her burning feelings isn't health but I've felt better when keeping them buried. Lol

I start this wk Cape can't wait tbh I need to unload some shit man

[marcus300]

Thanks AG and Nacho on the birthday wishes.

AG I have been getting hypoglycemic easier and more often. Cooler weather would help I think. I'm ready.

Hey I was 50 last month your a young pup

[Capebuffalo]

I know how you feel, I run at 100mph with all the stuff happening in my life work and personal. Ive had to dig deep but I will own up its hard battle for me but I will come back hopefully and be 100% Marcus again

It's just I've always been able to separate outside life and the gym. I mean there would be a day or two here and there but never weeks on end. I need to get blood work done. Maybe something is off a bit somewhere.

[marcus300]

It's just I've always been able to separate outside life and the gym. I mean there would be a day or two here and there but never weeks on end. I need to get blood work done. Maybe something is off a bit somewhere.

I understand

[almostgone]

Thanks AG and Nacho on the birthday wishes.

AG I have been getting hypoglycemic easier and more often. Cooler weather would help I think. I'm ready.

Yes sir, I struggle with low glucose at times as well. Make sure if you order your panels from privatemdlabs to check around online for a discount code.

[TRA]

Win the mind games and you will see huge developments, everything starts in the mind. How would your feel if your on your last rep and you can finish it but then you have me screaming in your ear that I will knock fuk out of your knee cap with this hammer if you don't finish it and I tap your knee just to let you know. What do you think you will do ? adrenalin will instantly flow and you will do more than finish the rep you will do more. That adrenalin flow I can tap into through my mind of thinking about things in my life and past, I can get to that level within seconds and then I start my set. I try my best to never waste sets or reps. But always remember to always take a pullback from training every 6 wks or so or when your body tells you, don't do what I do what I says trust me on this one!!

Yeah, I think that image will be good for a few more reps, haha

Thanks man. Your support is awesome. Such a huge collection of good guys in here all accomplished but instead of spending the extra time on other things you spend it helping others. It's awesome.

[Capebuffalo]

I start this wk Cape can't wait tbh I need to unload some shit man

I'm about a month in. Every time gets harder. Remembering things from the past and the feelings. I'm not a fan. Some of it came to the top last week and it took a lot to keep it from exploding. She gave me a technique to use. Funny it was tight in each muscle group from the floor up.

[Capebuffalo]

Yes sir, I struggle with low glucose at times as well. Make sure if you order your panels from privatemdlabs to check around online for a discount code.

I saw that today actually. I will use it.

[kelkel]

It's just I've always been able to separate outside life and the gym. I mean there would be a day or two here and there but never weeks on end. I need to get blood work done. Maybe something is off a bit somewhere.

Cape you've been back training hard for a while now as well. Maybe a week off would be a good start?

[TRA]

Thanks AZ. It sounds very familiar. It just seems I don't have control on any aspect of my life. I've been going and talking to someone. I don't know if it's helping or hindering. According to her burning feelings isn't health but I've felt better when keeping them buried. Lol

I get that but it's deceiving. I speak only for me, but when I think I feel better by stuffing feelings it's because I don't want the pain of working through it and prefer to be a strong, silent type. That method not only isn't effective but it destroyed a couple of relationships because that stuff doesn't just sit there quietly. It weaves its way into my feelings, actions, reactions and words and it gets worse progressively with the time I ignore it. Not in an obvious way, mine you, because then I would have no choice but to deal with it. But it sits and festers and rots and comes out sideways, often at people who don't deserve it, then it feeds on itself and becomes a vicious cycle with a snowball effect.
I am all about the healthy manners of getting it out and dealing with it now. I've lost too much due to my own stubbornness and stupidity. And at some point in dealing with it, life started to get really good and hasn't stopped since, with only intermittent down times that I think are pretty normal given all I have going on. Not sure if you can relate or not, but good luck man! Stay strong!

If it's trauma stuff EMDR is something that worked very well for me. And as an aside, I found I didn't have to relive every horrible moment, just had to learn to identify feelings, maybe helped to know where they came from but now just recognize and deal with them in a healthy manner. My head talks to me a lot nicer since I quit listening to the old tapes and bs.

[Capebuffalo]

Cape you've been back training hard for a while now as well. Maybe a week off would be a good start?

I basically had last week off. And I haven't done hit in a month since my motivation is low.

[Capebuffalo]

I get that but it's deceiving. I speak only for me, but when I think I feel better by stuffing feelings it's because I don't want the pain of working through it and prefer to be a strong, silent type. That method not only isn't effective but it destroyed a couple of relationships because that stuff doesn't just sit there quietly. It weaves its way into my feelings, actions, reactions and words and it gets worse progressively with the time I ignore it. Not in an obvious way, mine you, because then I would have no choice but to deal with it. But it sits and festers and rots and comes out sideways, often at people who don't deserve it, then it feeds on itself and becomes a vicious cycle with a snowball effect.
I am all about the healthy manners of getting it out and dealing with it now. I've lost too much due to my own stubbornness and stupidity. And at some point in dealing with it, life started to get really good and hasn't stopped since, with only intermittent down times that I think are pretty normal given all I have going on. Not sure if you can relate or not, but good luck man! Stay strong!

If it's trauma stuff EMDR is something that worked very well for me. And as an aside, I found I didn't have to relive every horrible moment, just had to learn to identify feelings, maybe helped to know where they came from but now just recognize and deal with them in a healthy manner. My head talks to me a lot nicer since I quit listening to the old tapes and bs.

Oh. I know about effecting relationships. That's why I'm going. But it's hard to feel things you put away 17 yrs ago. My fear is if I let them completely out I won't be able to stop or control them. She's promised she won't let me get to that point and will pull me back. But I don't trust that. I know she does it for a living but I don't really know her. I am working on it. I've realized it has effected every relationship I've ever had. And I'm going to change the outcome of this one. She's helping me realize something's aren't my fault. It was how I was raised and how I felt with things as a child. Seemed like a cop out at first but I'm understanding it more now. Sorry guys I wasn't planning on going here on the thread.

[Capebuffalo]

I know how you feel, I run at 100mph with all the stuff happening in my life work and personal. Ive had to dig deep but I will own up its hard battle for me but I will come back hopefully and be 100% Marcus again

Yes you will.

[TRA]

Oh. I know about effecting relationships. That's why I'm going. But it's hard to feel things you put away 17 yrs ago. My fear is if I let them completely out I won't be able to stop or control them. She's promised she won't let me get to that point and will pull me back. But I don't trust that. I know she does it for a living but I don't really know her. I am working on it. I've realized it has effected every relationship I've ever had. And I'm going to change the outcome of this one. She's helping me realize something's aren't my fault. It was how I was raised and how I felt with things as a child. Seemed like a cop out at first but I'm understanding it more now. Sorry guys I wasn't planning on going here on the thread.

I totally get this. EMDR helped me immensely, even though I was skeptical at the beginning. I have never really looked back and I was captive on a daily basis prior to therapy to many things in my past. Happy to share via PM if helpful, not pour out my life story but no problems sharing specifics and how/what therapy did. It takes courage to ask for help to begin with and to admit one's own shortcomings as well, so huge respect for that. I'm optimistic.

[NACH3]

I am still mastering "Mindfulness" and practising it when I can but you have to find the tool what help you, ive tried many things NLP, CBT and many more what I am trained in but I do rate Mindfulness at the moment but time is the killer for me

Tbh I was reading it ed and then I stopped dumb I know / I'll be going back they it and watching more of the DVD! Thanks mate!

[NACH3]

I saw that today actually. I will use it.

I got one with 15% off if you need the code buddy lmk

[NACH3]

I'm about a month in. Every time gets harder. Remembering things from the past and the feelings. I'm not a fan. Some of it came to the top last week and it took a lot to keep it from exploding. She gave me a technique to use. Funny it was tight in each muscle group from the floor up.

Sounds promising I really can't wait to unload some things that are from my past etc

[TRA]

Geezus, reread through the posts - probably could have taken most of that offline/pm, sorry guys. Hope I didn't leave too many emotional skid marks on you. Just kind of refreshing to have open discussion from men about real stuff. Better go fix some stuff with some tools and cook some steaks and such...

[Capebuffalo]

Geezus, reread through the posts - probably could have taken most of that offline/pm, sorry guys. Hope I didn't leave too many emotional skid marks on you. Just kind of refreshing to have open discussion from men about real stuff. Better go fix some stuff with some tools and cook some steaks and such...

Yeah me too. Then have leftover cake. My wife bought a huge one for the three of us. Lord help me.

[Capebuffalo]

Morning Hitters