**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[baseline_9]

Ive never been 250lbs in my teens, I'm 45 yrs old

ive never competed but ive been involved heavily in contests at certain times throughout the last 20 yrs

I think he meant body fat in the low teens lol

We all know ur an old fukker

[marcus300]

I think he meant body fat in the low teens lol

We all know ur an old fukker

Of course he did lol was a joke

[likelifting]

Thanks Marcus.

Will do that. I start with incline db presses, but since its my first chest excersize I don't go to failure. I'll change that. Then I go to incline bench and if I'm lifting alone obviously I don't want to ask someone to lift the bar off my chest.

So I'll start incline db presses but take it failure and move to the smitch machine where I can go to failure cuz of the locks.

Thanks

Thanks Human Project. I'd probably be surprised to see whats underneath all this bf.

Will keep that in mind. I have some Albut/T3 coming to help me through a plateau I'm at.

[gearbox]

Absolutely love hit training when lifting as well as in cardio. Dorian Yates is the man. I never do flat bench bc I don't feel it does much for muscle mass compared to how hard it is on my shoulders. Just like in the blood and guts video I start with decline press to get a pre exhaustion, then incline fb press, flat fly, and end with dips. The first set is two warm ups and one working set then all other exercises are one warm up one working with no more then 1min rest in between. This "along with cutting my bf in half" has absolutely transformed my chest. I never really feel a good chest workout and this one frekin kills.

On a side note: "I feel my upper chest blew up when I started doing sit down military with a straight bar..... Just my 2 cents bc upper chest seems to be my strong point

For military do you come all the way down in front of your chin? Or do you touch upper chest (all the way down)

[gearbox]

All bf.... Drop under 6-7% and the shelf magically appears. Kinda like veins that roll around. At 12-13% I have no vascularity what so ever and here's me just breaking 7%.

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Hello human your suppose to tell me when you post a pics of my arm also. The skinny arm in the back ground is me!

[Sgt. Hartman]

Ive never been 250lbs in my teens, I'm 45 yrs old

ive never competed but ive been involved heavily in contests at certain times throughout the last 20 yrs

45 years old, haven't you been 45 for the last several years now???

Keep it up big man....very motivating thread.

[likelifting]

Absolutely love hit training when lifting as well as in cardio. Dorian Yates is the man. I never do flat bench bc I don't feel it does much for muscle mass compared to how hard it is on my shoulders. Just like in the blood and guts video I start with decline press to get a pre exhaustion, then incline fb press, flat fly, and end with dips. The first set is two warm ups and one working set then all other exercises are one warm up one working with no more then 1min rest in between. This "along with cutting my bf in half" has absolutely transformed my chest. I never really feel a good chest workout and this one frekin kills.

On a side note: "I feel my upper chest blew up when I started doing sit down military with a straight bar..... Just my 2 cents bc upper chest seems to be my strong point

Missed this post.

Good stuff.

My shoulder routine has been changed and is working. My back symmetry is coming together. Now I'll have to see what works for me on my chest.

Ok, now back to Marcus' thread.

[< <Samson> >]

Ive never been 250lbs in my teens, I'm 45 yrs old

ive never competed but ive been involved heavily in contests at certain times throughout the last 20 yrs

lol. . . Now teen years man. Teen Bf% (i.e. 13%)


Cool shit man. . . . . I can't even really imagine myself that big. Straight up swoled up. lol

[gearbox]

lol. . . Now teen years man. Teen Bf% (i.e. 13%)

Cool shit man. . . . . I can't even really imagine myself that big. Straight up swoled up. lol

You can't imagine cause Marcus is not human. like I said before.
Maybe he should play a new terminator movie!

[marcus300]

45 years old, haven't you been 45 for the last several years now???

Keep it up big man....very motivating thread.

hahaha you got me you cvnt

[marcus300]

lol. . . Now teen years man. Teen Bf% (i.e. 13%)


Cool shit man. . . . . I can't even really imagine myself that big. Straight up swoled up. lol

To be honest with you when I was younger when I first started training I dreamed of being big and muscular, I destroyed many things in my younger life what were very precious to me because of my drive and determination. Nothing would stop me and over the years after so many painful times in the gym my body started to grow and before you know it your XXL. Being consistant for years builds size and its funny but I seemed build a more solid look as I got older, mature muscle lol

[gearbox]

Mature muscle is just you getting higher bf over the years

[Capebuffalo]

Mature muscle is just you getting higher bf over the years

I have to disagree. Muscle maturity a denser grainier developed muscle. Making mature men look better.

[kelkel]

I have to disagree. Muscle maturity a denser grainier developed muscle. Making mature men look better.

This ^^ as long as they're still killing it.

[marcus300]

Mature muscle is just you getting higher bf over the years

Not even close big boy

I have to disagree. Muscle maturity a denser grainier developed muscle. Making mature men look better.

You got it

This ^^ as long as they're still killing it.

Over and out, thats my boy

[gearbox]

I hope you guys know I was joking!
Besides Marcus your arm probably weighs more than my whole body
And kel your pics are ridiculous. Young or old, a monster is a monster!

[kronik420]

I personally hate test prop... Well I'm beginning to hate test in general although test is basically the vast majority of cycles I've taken. For some reason I always get test flu immediately from prop and I never do with enanthate or cyp... Why are you going with prop?? Is usually more expensive per mg anyway

shorter cycle, including PCT it's like 12 weeks, and don't have to wait the 5 ish weeks for test e to kick in.. and from what i've read, alot more people like shorter cycles for various reasons.. i may get some test e as well tho, just in case...

+ i should get over my fear of needles quicker with EOD injections, compared with 2x a week injections lol...

[gearbox]

My guess is you wont be able to work out for the first two weeks cause pip! But good luck.
Prop kicks my butt

[milky01623]

shorter cycle, including PCT it's like 12 weeks, and don't have to wait the 5 ish weeks for test e to kick in.. and from what i've read, alot more people like shorter cycles for various reasons.. i may get some test e as well tho, just in case...

+ i should get over my fear of needles quicker with EOD injections, compared with 2x a week injections lol...

Dude unfortunately it doesn't work like that the fear is always there lol
Check my thread "grown a set"

[marcus300]

Thanks Marcus.

Will do that. I start with incline db presses, but since its my first chest excersize I don't go to failure. I'll change that. Then I go to incline bench and if I'm lifting alone obviously I don't want to ask someone to lift the bar off my chest.

So I'll start incline db presses but take it failure and move to the smitch machine where I can go to failure cuz of the locks.

Thanks

Thanks Human Project. I'd probably be surprised to see whats underneath all this bf.

Will keep that in mind. I have some Albut/T3 coming to help me through a plateau I'm at.

You need to train to failure and beyond by imnplementing either forced reps then negs or dropsets. If your not training to and past failure your not recruiting all the muscle fibres and to get a sticking bodypart to respond you need to take it to its limit otherwise whats the point!!!

[marcus300]

I hope you guys know I was joking!
Besides Marcus your arm probably weighs more than my whole body
And kel your pics are ridiculous. Young or old, a monster is a monster!

Thats what my lady says hahaha

[marcus300]

shorter cycle, including PCT it's like 12 weeks, and don't have to wait the 5 ish weeks for test e to kick in.. and from what i've read, alot more people like shorter cycles for various reasons.. i may get some test e as well tho, just in case...

+ i should get over my fear of needles quicker with EOD injections, compared with 2x a week injections lol...

Short cycles are great but as you progress with cycling try every other method and protocol and see how your body responds and go with whats best for you. Persoanlly short cycles are my fav

[marcus300]

My guess is you wont be able to work out for the first two weeks cause pip! But good luck.
Prop kicks my butt

Dude unfortunately it doesn't work like that the fear is always there lol
Check my thread "grown a set"

I had a fear of needles, you should of seen the state of my arse on my first injection spots of blood all over it were I just touch the skin and bottled it. Fear soon goes you should also find painless prop it would be far better than putting up with pip

[marcus300]

Back & abs & cardio

close grip pulldowns
3 warm up sets
1 working set - failure - dropset

bent over rows
2 working sets - dropsets

seated low pully
2 working sets - dropsets

one arm dumbell rows
2 working sets - failure

hammer wide grip pulldowns
2 working sets - failure


abs

cardio -25mins

[Capebuffalo]

Back & abs & cardio

close grip pulldowns
3 warm up sets
1 working set - failure - dropset

bent over rows
2 working sets - dropsets

seated low pully
2 working sets - dropsets

one arm dumbell rows
2 working sets - failure

hammer wide grip pulldowns
2 working sets - failure


abs

cardio -25mins

Curious why you put rowing motion in between your pull down motions. Width thickness width.

[marcus300]

Curious why you put rowing motion in between your pull down motions. Width thickness width.

I just swaped it around a bit, exhausting all my back. Felt good and pumped

[kelkel]

I hope you guys know I was joking!
Besides Marcus your arm probably weighs more than my whole body
And kel your pics are ridiculous. Young or old, a monster is a monster!

Thanks Gear! Somebody has to represent the old fuks here. And I got Marcus by a few years....

[Capebuffalo]

I just swaped it around a bit, exhausting all my back. Felt good and pumped

Ahh. Ok got ya. Didn't know if there was a scientific equation for it. Lol

[milky01623]

I had a fear of needles, you should of seen the state of my arse on my first injection spots of blood all over it were I just touch the skin and bottled it. Fear soon goes you should also find painless prop it would be far better than putting up with pip

Why didn't you tell me about painless prop lol
I'm the king of pip ;-)

[marcus300]

Why didn't you tell me about painless prop lol
I'm the king of pip ;-)

Ive used Viromone many times and never had any after pain what so ever, seek pharm grade why bother with UGL rubbish

[MR-FQ320]

Marcus I have a quick question about carb cycling, would you still have a High carb day on a non training day. I'm training 5 on 2 off. Is it trial and error for the individual and if so how can you compare subtle results. Thanks

[marcus300]

Marcus I have a quick question about carb cycling, would you still have a High carb day on a non training day. I'm training 5 on 2 off. Is it trial and error for the individual and if so how can you compare subtle results. Thanks

It all depends on how you respond, my body is very sensitive to carbs so slight adjustments and I am on my way, I usually go by how I feel and look. Normally I will carbs in the first meal of the day then adjust to what I am doing but I never have zero carbs. I much prefer doing a slow carb cycling with minor adjustments this for me really saves alot of muscle tissue. I personally think to many people run to much of a extreme carb cycle or cutting diet and they see loads of tissue loss, ive done the same many yrs ago but it doesnt happen now. Every bit of tissue is very precious to me and I am not lossing it so thats why I tend to do a long drawn out carb cycle with minor adjustment, all I do is manipulate my carbs and trick my body while manitaining muscle tissue - end result is big and cut

[gearbox]

Marcus let's say you wanted to cut from 15 to 8-10%. And you could run test or gear at a higher dose then your hrt. What doses would you run to conserve muscle tissue

[MR-FQ320]

How many weeks do you cut for nowadays then ?

[marcus300]

Marcus let's say you wanted to cut from 15 to 8-10%. And you could run test or gear at a higher dose then your hrt. What doses would you run to conserve muscle tissue

All you need to do is make sure your in a anabolic state and if your on hrt you should be fine if your not doing anything extreme with your diet, my hrt dose holds me very well but if I was cutting from 15 to 10 I would run something around 300-400mgs per wk for 6-8 wks then come off back down to hrt dose then re -run another cycle in 6-8wks because I would do it very slowly, there is no rush cutting bf if you do you lose muscle tissue. Fair enough you may look really cut and ripped but at what cost!! every lb of tissue is precious and it takes alot of hard work to build so I much prefer doing cuts over a long period of time.

[marcus300]

How many weeks do you cut for nowadays then ?

These days I can take as long as 12 months, but when I was cycling alot more I would take around 6months. Everything was done slowly to preserve muscle tissue. When I use to run cutting cycles/diets say around 2-3 months I would sacrifice tissue and it would do my head in, losing tissue when Ive just been thought torture building it so I spoke with someone about this and we adjusted a few things and ran longer cuts while using minor adjustments and this for me made a huge difference.

[marcus300]

Chest and abs

Incline dumbell press
2 warm up sets
1 working set - failure - forced - negs

incline flyes
2 feel sets
1 working set -failure -forced -negs

hammer flat press ( movement is inwards and just isolates the pecs without any tricep)
1 feel set
1 working set - failure-forced,negs

pec dec
3 sets -15 reps -failure

abs

[marcus300]

Biceps, triceps and forearms

ez bar
2 warm up sets
1 working set -failure, 2forced, 2 negs

incline dumbell curls
1 feel set
1 working set, failure, 2 forced, 2 negs

preacher machine
1 feel set
1 working set- failure,2 forced, 2 negs

hammer curls
1 feel set
1 working set -failure, forced, negs

bar bells forearm crunches
3 sets -failure


Triceps
straight bar pushdowns
2 feel sets
1 working set - dropset to failure

one arm overhead dumbell extentions
2 feel sets
1 working set = failure, forced

dips
3 working sets - failure

[Brick]

Biceps, triceps and forearms

ez bar
2 warm up sets
1 working set -failure, 2forced, 2 negs

incline dumbell curls
1 feel set
1 working set, failure, 2 forced, 2 negs

preacher machine
1 feel set
1 working set- failure,2 forced, 2 negs

hammer curls
1 feel set
1 working set -failure, forced, negs

bar bells forearm crunches
3 sets -failure

Triceps
straight bar pushdowns
2 feel sets
1 working set - dropset to failure

one arm overhead dumbell extentions
2 feel sets
1 working set = failure, forced

dips
3 working sets - failure

Marcus, what are incline dumbbell curls?

[kronik420]

Marcus, what are incline dumbbell curls?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxrZlIl35U

although taking your shirt off for it is not necessary lol..