**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[lovbyts]

Welcome back and good to hear about no PSA issue. Hope they can narrow it down though to give you a definitive answer and not just a maybe.

[marcus300]

Welcome back and good to hear about no PSA issue. Hope they can narrow it down though to give you a definitive answer and not just a maybe.

I think the main problem is there are many ways you can get an infection, trying to narrow it down is hard. They have mentioned a few examples but to be honest that wasn't my main concern the cancer was but now its just a course of medication and hopefully my water works will be good to go.

Thanks

[MuscleInk]

I think the main problem is there are many ways you can get an infection, trying to narrow it down is hard. They have mentioned a few examples but to be honest that wasn't my main concern the cancer was but now its just a course of medication and hopefully my water works will be good to go.

Thanks

Good to hear you are all clear of the adenocarcinoma.

Something that I've mentioned many times on here that gets very little attention....anabolics can be immunosuppressive. Consequently, infections or other maladies can be more frequent when running long or consecutive cycles. Anabolics won't completely shut down your immune system but our hormones do impact immunity and as such, hormonal manipulation can effect the efficiency of immune responses. This is one reason (but not the only reason), some guys experience more infections, colds, or other health changes during cycles. It's a complex system but one cannot dismiss the importance hormones play in regulating a healthy immune response.

Glad you're on the mend Marcus. Not knowing what is happening can sometimes be more unsettling than knowing what is wrong.

[almostgone]

I think the main problem is there are many ways you can get an infection, trying to narrow it down is hard. They have mentioned a few examples but to be honest that wasn't my main concern the cancer was but now its just a course of medication and hopefully my water works will be good to go.

Thanks

Dang, Marcus! I had read your posts mentioning the health issues to sort out, but never saw that you had elaborated on them. I'm sure you are GREATLY relieved that they eliminated the possibilities you listed (as is everyone here).
Sounds like you've never slowed down your routine....all I can say is you have a tremendous amount of self-discipline; and of course, glad to hear the positive news.

[AD]

Something that I've mentioned many times on here that gets very little attention....anabolics can be immunosuppressive.

As well as the possibly pseudo condition of over training. Considering the way that Marcus trains... lol.

Anyway. Glad you're back Marcus

[Capebuffalo]

Ok guys,

Tell me your cycles your running?

On the back end of test deca cycle. Due to diet I have stayed fairly lean. Still vascular and look bigger. Still haven't stepped on the scale so I don't know what I weigh. Was a little less than 200 lbs when I started. Also using stane and don't have any bloat I see with armidex. Just my observation.

[AD]

for me, novice cycle. test only. started wk2 today.

[Capebuffalo]

Chest

It's been 5-6 weeks of intense HIT. Going to back off this week.
Listening to my body. Plus going to be a huge push at work before the thanksgiving holiday.

Hammer Strength Incline
135x 10 225x10 225x10

Smith Incline
225x8 225x8

Seated Cable Crossover
60x15 60x8

This really got me pumped and moving this early am:

There was a friend of mine on murder
And the judge's gavel fell
Jury found him guilty
Gave him sixteen years in hell
He said "I ain't spending my life here
I ain't living alone
Ain't breaking no rocks on the chain gang
I'm breakin' out and headin' home

[marcus300]

Good to hear you are all clear of the adenocarcinoma.

Something that I've mentioned many times on here that gets very little attention....anabolics can be immunosuppressive. Consequently, infections or other maladies can be more frequent when running long or consecutive cycles. Anabolics won't completely shut down your immune system but our hormones do impact immunity and as such, hormonal manipulation can effect the efficiency of immune responses. This is one reason (but not the only reason), some guys experience more infections, colds, or other health changes during cycles. It's a complex system but one cannot dismiss the importance hormones play in regulating a healthy immune response.

Glad you're on the mend Marcus. Not knowing what is happening can sometimes be more unsettling than knowing what is wrong.

Thanks Muscleink, I haven't been on cycle for months and when I do its only for short amounts of time 6 weeks or under, I never had colds or feel under the weather which made this even more of a worry. I know we talk privately and thanks for your advice...

Dang, Marcus! I had read your posts mentioning the health issues to sort out, but never saw that you had elaborated on them. I'm sure you are GREATLY relieved that they eliminated the possibilities you listed (as is everyone here).
Sounds like you've never slowed down your routine....all I can say is you have a tremendous amount of self-discipline; and of course, glad to hear the positive news.

Thanks mate appreciate your comments

As well as the possibly pseudo condition of over training. Considering the way that Marcus trains... lol.


Anyway. Glad you're back Marcus

Hey come on now, I never over train. I train to an inch of life but have loads of days off and feed so much it would make everyone else feel sick

[kronik420]

day 39

test p 150mg EOD
drol 50mg ED

only thing i've noticed is recovery has increased (should i be training more often?)... no real strength gains.. up to 222 lbs.

[marcus300]

day 39

test p 150mg EOD
drol 50mg ED

only thing i've noticed is recovery has increased (should i be training more often?)... no real strength gains.. up to 222 lbs.

You should be increasing the overload nearly every session on cycle so your body as no alternative but to grow to compensate the stress its under, so your strength should be going up. Concentrate on this and results will be better. Also as the weight/LBM goes up adjust cals to suit otherwise slow down will occur.

No need to train more, if your train properly first time around and stimulate the muscle to an inch of its life you will be fine, let the repair and growth phase take over

[kronik420]

You should be increasing the overload nearly every session on cycle so your body as no alternative but to grow to compensate the stress its under, so your strength should be going up. Concentrate on this and results will be better. Also as the weight/LBM goes up adjust cals to suit otherwise slow down will occur.

No need to train more, if your train properly first time around and stimulate the muscle to an inch of its life you will be fine, let the repair and growth phase take over

you always have the good answers, thanks

more weight more food, got it.

was kinda expecting more, i've heard people walk out of the gym and say things like "i just lifted 20kg more than i usually do and it didn't even feel heavy" and that's coming from guys that don't even know what their injecting...

i guess my strength has been increasing over the last few weeks, but i was just expecting more..idk..

back tomorrow, been doing Dorian's blood and guts routine.. can't wait

[Igifuno]

Ok guys, Tell me your cycles your running?

Just wrapped up week three of the following:

1-12 Test E: 300mg/wk
1-10 Tren A: 100mg/eod
1-4 TNE: 50mg/pre workout
1-20 HGH: 2iu/ed
7-12 Winstrol (haven't started yet): 75/mg ed

Results thus far are good. Strength is noticeably increased, bloat is minimal and weight is up around 12 lbs. More like 15 before bed but lighter in the morning.

[marcus300]

you always have the good answers, thanks

more weight more food, got it.

was kinda expecting more, i've heard people walk out of the gym and say things like "i just lifted 20kg more than i usually do and it didn't even feel heavy" and that's coming from guys that don't even know what their injecting...

i guess my strength has been increasing over the last few weeks, but i was just expecting more..idk..

back tomorrow, been doing Dorian's blood and guts routine.. can't wait

A lot of the guys who suddenly increase strength are usually working off water weight, don't get me wrong water weight is a good think to have in moderation but not to much. Water gives you strength, strength makes you lift heavier weights, heavy weights puts more stress on your muscles, more stress more size etc etc but what most do is don't use this strength and usually drop all the strength and size they have gained and go back to what they looked like before, the old vicious circle!!

We can all increase our weights and rep more, but there are reps and there are proper reps, you know what I mean the guys with sloppy form, not concentrating on the negative and bouncing the positive its a pointless game to be in, what you need to do is rep properly in a controlled manner. There are two sides to every rep the lowering of the rep and the lifting of the rep. If you slowly add overload while your doing these kinds of reps and also using the HIT principles I simple adore you will create serious over load on the muscles and they will adapt and grow. If you cant add more weight increase the intensity until you can add more weight and it will still all come to the same end

[marcus300]

Just wrapped up week three of the following:

1-12 Test E: 300mg/wk
1-10 Tren A: 100mg/eod
1-4 TNE: 50mg/pre workout
1-20 HGH: 2iu/ed
7-12 Winstrol (haven't started yet): 75/mg ed

Results thus far are good. Strength is noticeably increased, bloat is minimal and weight is up around 12 lbs. More like 15 before bed but lighter in the morning.

Run the winny and fill the gap up to pct start time, so start winny at week 9 and finish it just before pct so you run winny while your waiting for the test e to clear, back load the winny works great to solidify gains. I would also up the gh to at least 6-8 ius on cycle because 2 isn't worth much imho. Also make sure you take your AI

[Igifuno]

Run the winny and fill the gap up to pct start time, so start winny at week 9 and finish it just before pct so you run winny while your waiting for the test e to clear, back load the winny works great to solidify gains. I would also up the gh to at least 6-8 ius on cycle because 2 isn't worth much imho. Also make sure you take your AI

Thank you Marcus. Solid advice in the winny. Done. AI is in place (aromasin ), also running prami .5mg/ed.

I'll tell you, I had to lower the dose back to 2iu, I swear 4ius we're producing incredibly painful sides. Went back to 2iu a few days ago and they're better but still prevalent. I actually do intend to ramp up but my hands are swollen and could barely hold on to a pen the other day.

Don't mean to sound like a pvssy, but this shit is making me uncomfortable. 1st time using hgh by the way.

[Fcastle357]

Nice to have you back Marcus and I hope your health keeps improving. I just finished a 12 week test c cycle. Today is first day of pct. Posted a pic awhile back might try and update in a couple weeks.

[Rusty11]

A lot of the guys who suddenly increase strength are usually working off water weight, don't get me wrong water weight is a good think to have in moderation but not to much. Water gives you strength, strength makes you lift heavier weights, heavy weights puts more stress on your muscles, more stress more size etc etc but what most do is don't use this strength and usually drop all the strength and size they have gained and go back to what they looked like before, the old vicious circle!!

We can all increase our weights and rep more, but there are reps and there are proper reps, you know what I mean the guys with sloppy form, not concentrating on the negative and bouncing the positive its a pointless game to be in, what you need to do is rep properly in a controlled manner. There are two sides to every rep the lowering of the rep and the lifting of the rep. If you slowly add overload while your doing these kinds of reps and also using the HIT principles I simple adore you will create serious over load on the muscles and they will adapt and grow. If you cant add more weight increase the intensity until you can add more weight and it will still all come to the same end

Ahh yea. See. I missed these great posts.

Me-no wonder I'm the smallest guy here. I'm on a gel...lol

[marcus300]

Thank you Marcus. Solid advice in the winny. Done. AI is in place (aromasin ), also running prami .5mg/ed.

I'll tell you, I had to lower the dose back to 2iu, I swear 4ius we're producing incredibly painful sides. Went back to 2iu a few days ago and they're better but still prevalent. I actually do intend to ramp up but my hands are swollen and could barely hold on to a pen the other day.

Don't mean to sound like a pvssy, but this shit is making me uncomfortable. 1st time using hgh by the way.

2ius shouldn't be reacting like that, if its generic its probably not real gh but anti-diuretic hormones what is causing retention and giving your serious CTS

[Capebuffalo]

Ahh yea. See. I missed these great posts.

Me-no wonder I'm the smallest guy here. I'm on a gel...lol

Not for long with this training.

[marcus300]

Nice to have you back Marcus and I hope your health keeps improving. I just finished a 12 week test c cycle. Today is first day of pct. Posted a pic awhile back might try and update in a couple weeks.

Yes thanks i am good, just on some medication to zap this infection but i will be honest i was scared but all ok for now...

yes please post some pics would love to see what you look like

[marcus300]

Ahh yea. See. I missed these great posts.

Me-no wonder I'm the smallest guy here. I'm on a gel...lol

You don't cycle? your just on trt gel?

[Rusty11]

^^^yea

[Igifuno]

2ius shouldn't be reacting like that, if its generic its probably not real gh but anti-diuretic hormones what is causing retention and giving your serious CTS

could be.. I've only recently backed it down to 2iu but bloods will be the only way to tell.

[marcus300]

^^^yea

You look well just for trt Rusty, well done

[marcus300]

could be.. I've only recently backed it down to 2iu but bloods will be the only way to tell.

They put peptides in so blood work is pointless, if your running generics throw them away, complete waste of time and money. Sorry to burst your bubble but they wont be gh it will be some peps and water retaining compound.

[Igifuno]

They put peptides in so blood work is pointless, if your running generics throw them away, complete waste of time and money. Sorry to burst your bubble but they wont be gh it will be some peps and water retaining compound.

No I appreciate the feedback. I read your thread on it (unfortunately after making the purchase). Will the peptides not serve any benefits?

[marcus300]

No I appreciate the feedback. I read your thread on it (unfortunately after making the purchase). Will the peptides not serve any benefits?

I doubt it very much, you shouldn't be getting serious CTS on 2ius of gh. Its probably fake but try it and see but pls monitor your blood pressure i know guys who have had serious issues with that water retaining gh what cause a huge increase of BP to a dangerous level.

[Igifuno]

I doubt it very much, you shouldn't be getting serious CTS on 2ius of gh. Its probably fake but try it and see but pls monitor your blood pressure i know guys who have had serious issues with that water retaining gh what cause a huge increase of BP to a dangerous level.

Ok. BP is fine. Been checking ed last night it was 127/72 I think. I'm going to PM you with a couple other questions if you don't mind.

[marcus300]

Ok. BP is fine. Been checking ed last night it was 127/72 I think. I'm going to PM you with a couple other questions if you don't mind.

I mean check it when you ramp the dose up because its pointless at 2ius mate while on cycle, just keep an eye on the bp...yes pm me anytime i always answer all pms

[kelkel]

Good to hear you are all clear of the adenocarcinoma.

Something that I've mentioned many times on here that gets very little attention....anabolics can be immunosuppressive. Consequently, infections or other maladies can be more frequent when running long or consecutive cycles. Anabolics won't completely shut down your immune system but our hormones do impact immunity and as such, hormonal manipulation can effect the efficiency of immune responses. This is one reason (but not the only reason), some guys experience more infections, colds, or other health changes during cycles. It's a complex system but one cannot dismiss the importance hormones play in regulating a healthy immune response.

Glad you're on the mend Marcus. Not knowing what is happening can sometimes be more unsettling than knowing what is wrong.

Flip side would be dialed in TRT. You're healthier with less sickness.

[Fcastle357]

Heres a pic from today. I will update about every month and half. That way peoples eyes can recover

[Igifuno]

Heres a pic from today. I will update about every month and half. That way peoples eyes can recover

Looking great castle.. lot's of clear definition there. I read the other day where you said this was the first time you've come off and not been bummed about it. It's a huge victory when you experience that IMO. I'm sure you'll be here to keep that motivation high

[marcus300]

Heres a pic from today. I will update about every month and half. That way peoples eyes can recover

Very good, can you tell me how long you have been training and how many cycles you have done?

[MuscleInk]

Flip side would be dialed in TRT. You're healthier with less sickness.

Yes sir! Too bad more MDs don't embrace that concept!

[MuscleInk]

<img src="http://forums.steroid .com/attachment.php?attachmentid=145816"/>Heres a pic from today. I will update about every month and half. That way peoples eyes can recover

Looking solid!

[Fcastle357]

Very good, can you tell me how long you have been training and how many cycles you have done?

That's a hard question to answer. My profile says on and off for about 10 years but theres been more off than on... personal issues. I can say with certainty that the last two years have been the most steady. I have only done one injectable cycle this last one and three prohormone(yeah I know....) I feel however like I am just beginning. My diet in the past has been sh1t. This is the first time in my life like I feel theres a solid plan in place both nutrition wise and training.

[Fcastle357]

Looking solid!

Thanks MI

[marcus300]

That's a hard question to answer. My profile says on and off for about 10 years but theres been more off than on... personal issues. I can say with certainty that the last two years have been the most steady. I have only done one injectable cycle this last one and three prohormone(yeah I know....) I feel however like I am just beginning. My diet in the past has been sh1t. This is the first time in my life like I feel theres a solid plan in place both nutrition wise and training.

Well that's remarkable, excellent gains and some really decent muscle. You can see great delt tri separation along side the bicep and also the chest insertions, great work and keep it up.

Side note stay clear of PH they are shit

[kelkel]

That's a hard question to answer. My profile says on and off for about 10 years but theres been more off than on... personal issues. I can say with certainty that the last two years have been the most steady. I have only done one injectable cycle this last one and three prohormone(yeah I know....) I feel however like I am just beginning. My diet in the past has been sh1t. This is the first time in my life like I feel theres a solid plan in place both nutrition wise and training.

Excellent. And in short time you will see drastic changes which will in-turn serve to inspire you more, as we will. When things fall in place for you you'll be shocked at how fast you can make changes.