**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Fcastle357]

She doesn't know u pin?

U take anotest, prohormones, gaspari products, celltech, and amino acids like a mother fvcker lol

If I tell her I use gaspari do I get a shirt haz

[Cuz]

My dream is to live happily ever after with my wife but I'm a realist. No way I tell her what I do twice a year for 12 or15 weeks. One day she's cool next day John q lawyer has some ammo. It's just that I've never tanned before. She's a smart lady. She knows something's up she just doesn't know everything.

yeah I feel ya there. Hehe. It is what it is man.

[MR-FQ320]

Biceps before chest is good :-)

[Java Man]

Ok guys,

Tell me your cycles your running?

Not. Went off october 8th. cholesterol is really high. I'm going to stay clean for awhile.

[kelkel]

Not. Went off october 8th. cholesterol is really high. I'm going to stay clean for awhile.

Slo-Niacin
NAC
Red Yeast Rice

[MR-FQ320]

Ok guys, Tell me your cycles your running?

Started cycle Saturday gone.

800 test cyp pw
600 nandrolone deca note pw
50mg Adrol per day for three weeks ( I have four weeks worth but want to save a week for the final week before the competition)

Maybe add some t3 into the mix. ??

Creatine
Hcg
Adex
Cialis
Zma
Ecgc ( green tea extract)
Chromium picolinate
Muti vit
Omega 3

Contest is in 26 weeks. Long Esther's until 13 weeks out.
Start at 220 lbs, 5-10, unsure of bf but no more than 15%

[AD]

Slo-Niacin
NAC
Red Yeast Rice

lova
simva
atorva

[kelkel]

Love it.

Glad to hear your bloods came back neg for the bad stuff. Musta been a worry. On the plus side least you found out you got some "big healthy organs". And are now on the mend infection wise. Ref rotator cuff injury. I'll be watching ur routines closely again. Ur pre exhaust routines have helped turn my rotator injuries into a more effective routine. I think I just went too heavy. Too quickly. I'm on msm. Thinking about tb500 n ordered some pharm DMSO. Pure stuff that freezes at just below warm temperature. You ever use DMSO? If so how'd it help and how would u apply? how much/often would you suggest? Also if I were to go down the GH (pharm) route would that assist, or have a slight detrimental effect on joints/tendons etc?
Thanks to anyone with advice.
And again glad ur well Marcus.

Don't use anything over 90%. May cause skin irritation. They sell them now that are cut with aloe. Much nicer. Cheap. Google "DMSO Miracle Solution" and read the top link or two. Filter was crushing them here.

Hah.... My gf still looks at my plate and goes " I know u..... U aren't gunna eat all that."

And every damn time he ends up sayin..... "Ur a big boy..... Jesus"

Which is it? Girlfriend or boyfriend. Either way it just fine. Just looking for clarity.

Not sure about that.. I haven't doene enough research but from what I've read I see appetite increasing properties in the excerpts I've read about ghrp-2..

would be great if you're correct becuase ghrp-6 is less expensive.

6 increases appetite, not 2.

[Hazard]

If I tell her I use gaspari do I get a shirt haz

Lmao not from me ;-)

[Java Man]

Slo-Niacin
NAC
Red Yeast Rice

Thanks kel.

Here's what I'm doing:
2g immediate release niacin daily (once)
1200mg NAC daily
2g vitamin C
Plus the usual vitamins and minerals

I'll look into red yeast rice.

I have been lazy about my supplements for the past few months. I blame the heavy cycle I recently came off of primarily though. I was on 750/wk tren plus 1.6g test. I blame tren, and myself for doing tren even though I know it jacks my lipids.

I'm taking a statin and have another dr appt this week. I hit my body hard this year. I think it needs a natty break.

[Hazard]

^^^^ lmao kel


Fvckin typos

[Java Man]

lova
simva
atorva

Are those your russian girlfriends? Lol. I got simva. You can have the other two.

[kelkel]

^^^^ lmao kel

Fvckin typos

Hmm. Ok.

[kelkel]

Thanks kel.

Here's what I'm doing:
2g immediate release niacin daily (once)
1200mg NAC daily
2g vitamin C
Plus the usual vitamins and minerals

I'll look into red yeast rice.

I have been lazy about my supplements for the past few months. I blame the heavy cycle I recently came off of primarily though. I was on 750/wk tren plus 1.6g test. I blame tren, and myself for doing tren even though I know it jacks my lipids.

I'm taking a statin and have another dr appt this week. I hit my body hard this year. I think it needs a natty break.

Tren kills lipids.

Red Yeast Rice:

Powdered red yeast rice and plant stanols and s... [J Diet Suppl. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

Consider Slo-Niacin. Read this:

Using Niacin to Improve Cardiovascular Health - Life Extension

[Java Man]

Tren kills lipids.

Red Yeast Rice:

Powdered red yeast rice and plant stanols and s... [J Diet Suppl. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

Consider Slo-Niacin. Read this:

Using Niacin to Improve Cardiovascular Health - Life Extension

Thanks. I've read the niacin article. I'll check the other in a bit.

I take immediate release rather than extended (slo) because I like the flushing effect. Is there a difference between slo and immediate other than elimination or moderation of the flushing? IE is it more effective?

Another concern I had when I started niacin therapy is that IR is less stressful on the liver. Valid concerns or is slo just as safe? If there's no difference other than flushing meditation I prefer to get that flush. It helps wake me up in the morning. Coffee and the flush, so to speak haha

[kelkel]

From what I understand it's a longer lasting effect. Hence more benefit. Been awhile since I've read up on it.
My flush in the morning is completely different. Involves porcelain.

[Java Man]

From what I understand it's a longer lasting effect. Hence more benefit. Been awhile since I've read up on it.
My flush in the morning is completely different. Involves porcelain.

Ok thanks. Red yeast rice looks promising too. I just read that link. I'm done with tren . Not worth the damage it does imo.

[Igifuno]

6 increases appetite, not 2.

thanks.. was just reading about this some more. It seems that multiple daily dosing would be optimal due to the extremely short half-life.. I'm intrigued..

[MajorPectorial]

Don't use anything over 90%. May cause skin irritation. They sell them now that are cut with aloe. Much nicer. Cheap. Google "DMSO Miracle Solution" and read the top link or two. Filter was crushing them here.

*** I've already bought it. What would you advise I essentially "cut" it with?. Bearing in mind I don't want to pull crap in my body along with it?.


6 increases appetite, not 2.r

*** I thought this was the case from my researching as I contemplated ghrp-6 for more hunger (I'm 245lbs now) n eating to keep gaining is hard. And was Gunna couple it with CJC without DAC.

Thanks kel. Anyone else have ideas on the DMSO please chime in.
Thanks in advance.



Forgot this earlier.
Current "blast" cycle for Marcus

1ml-test e@250mgml ed
1ml-tren a@100mgml ed
And return to higher trt leveled dose of 250mgpw test e for 4bweeks

[Cuz]

Just come off Marcus. No cycle for me until the new year. And then all hell will break loose....at least I hope. Size gotta have the SIZE!!!

[Doom44]

Legs/Abs

Legs extension 1 set 8 reps 1 rp 1 drop
Squat 1 set 8 reps 2 rp
Hack squat 1 set 6 reps 2 rp
Lying legs curls 1 set 8 reps 1 rp 1 drop

( legs are burn)

Machine crunch 3 sets 12 reps
Toes to bar 3 sets to failure.

Short,sweet and intense.

[Black]

thanks.. was just reading about this some more. It seems that multiple daily dosing would be optimal due to the extremely short half-life.. I'm intrigued..

I've ran 6 and 2 and they both increased my appetite. I've done both smaller, frequent doses throughout the day (100mcg 4-5x) and a couple bigger, boom doses (200mcg 1-2x). Both ways increased my IGF levels significantly (per bloodwork).

I seemed to hold a lot of water when I took bigger doses though. And this was even when I was on tren . I skipped a day of dosing GHRP and I could tell the next day, I was starting to dry out.

If you are worried about too much of an increase in appetite and/or don't want to be a pin cushion, I'd dose post workout and before bed. The hunger doesn't hit me late at night and a big meal post workout is welcomed.

[marcus300]

yeah im about sick of it to be honest. Im not giving up my passion just to set around the house or go out like everyone else does. Its hard man especially with a child.

I fully understand your drive and passion but please just take a step back and look at your lifestyle and relationship with your wife and child. Nothing could of stopped me doing what I wanted to do in my early years, my wife cried so much trying to get me to stop the lifestyle I was in but bodybuilding was me anything different just wouldn't of been the true me at that stage of my life, so I ignored her cry's for help. I MUST ADMIT I WAS VERY OBSESSED not the usually gym guy it was a 24/7 lifestyle for me and I was a heavy juicer and everything had to run my clockwork, my food had to be weighed daily every 3 hours I knew what I had to do. No matter where I went I always carried a bag of food just incase I had to eat and was delayed somewhere. Eventually the marriage ended it wasn't just my lifestyle what ended sealed the fate but it was a major contributor the start of things breaking down. I lost the most precious things someone could ever lose and that was not living with my children, I cant tell you the pain that caused me but even so I went through all this pain ( somethings i'm not expressing openly) I am in a whole better place now with the most wonderful beautiful lady in the world.

What I am trying to get across is don't be too tunnel visioned and get a balance to your life between bodybuilding and family. I knew I could of done a lot more but I didn't and now I am glad of the fact because I am in such a wonderful world now its amazing but just think about creating a balance in your life, your wife is saying these things for a reason so just think about the balance.

[marcus300]

Legs/Abs

Legs extension 1 set 8 reps 1 rp 1 drop
Squat 1 set 8 reps 2 rp
Hack squat 1 set 6 reps 2 rp
Lying legs curls 1 set 8 reps 1 rp 1 drop

( legs are burn)

Machine crunch 3 sets 12 reps
Toes to bar 3 sets to failure.

Short,sweet and intense.

I like, short heavy and to the point of failure

[marcus300]

Not. Went off october 8th. cholesterol is really high. I'm going to stay clean for awhile.

What was your cycle?

[marcus300]

Just come off Marcus. No cycle for me until the new year. And then all hell will break loose....at least I hope. Size gotta have the SIZE!!!

Your off cycle and look like that? your going to be a very big boy Chad -

[marcus300]

Kel, your just a vascular monster, my legs have never looked that vascular even when I got down to 6%, my legs hold far more fat than my upper half but yours a just like a road map permanently, what do they measure? and don't say you haven't got a tape! if you don't want to say openly pm me the measurement.

[Capebuffalo]

Ok thanks. Red yeast rice looks promising too. I just read that link. I'm done with tren. Not worth the damage it does imo.

What was your ai? armidex is devastating to lipid profile. When I switched to stane cholesterol dropped back into a normal level ( with livalo) which I was taking with dex.

[Java Man]

What was your ai? armidex is devastating to lipid profile. When I switched to stane cholesterol dropped back into a normal level ( with livalo) which I was taking with dex.

Interesting. I didn't know that about adex. I use stane. I take a very low dose though. 12.5mg eod. I have read trial results where aromasin showed actual improvement in cholesterol over placebo.

I'll get it back in line. I ran 2 relatively long cycles with not much break between them. its time for a breather.

[Java Man]

What was your cycle?

Test 1600/wk with Tren 750/wk for 12 weeks. Basically. I posted the details a while back while on which would be accurate.than me trying to remember it now. I'll find that and paste it here.

[Java Man]

Your off cycle and look like that? your going to be a very big boy Chad -

I agree. A friend of mine once had arms a smidge over 20". powerlifter. Strongest mofo I've ever seen even to this day too. He was built like you. How long have you been lifting, chad?

[Capebuffalo]

Back

Wide Grip Pull ups
10. 10. 8

Wide Grip Pull downs
10 10 8

Bent Over Rows
12. 12. 10

Seated Cable Rows
10 10 10

DB Shrugs
15

Long way to go. I feel my weakest point.

[Igifuno]

^^ holy lean cape... you can see the outline of your traps and definition is great. You have the tools and the means necessary to grow anywhere IMO, certainly the technical know how as it relates to the science of growth.

If that is your goal, then I'm confident you'll meet it and I'm looking forward to seeing those wings get bigger.

[marcus300]

Test 1600/wk with Tren 750/wk for 12 weeks. Basically. I posted the details a while back while on which would be accurate.than me trying to remember it now. I'll find that and paste it here.

To much gear Java that's why your responding is sides, you should follow the bodies growth spurt and never stay on cycle to long, its counterproductive

[marcus300]

Back

Wide Grip Pull ups
10. 10. 8

Wide Grip Pull downs
10 10 8

Bent Over Rows
12. 12. 10

Seated Cable Rows
10 10 10

DB Shrugs
15

Long way to go. I feel my weakest point.

Looking good cape, what I would prioritise is thickness because the width is there. Build slabs of tissue all the way down either side of your spine and add thickness to the blades, your back will look completely different if you did that. Hit the thickness movements first and some back workouts just concentrate on thickness only. I did that for around 2 years and my back exploded and it even went wider to compensate the thickness.

Thickness is the key to most bodypart, ive concentrated on it many times to bring up my thickness and increase my muscle bellies, nothing worse than turning sideways and disappearing.

Looking good

[Java Man]

What was your cycle?

Test 1600/wk with Tren 750/wk for 12 weeks. Basically. I posted the details a while back while on which would be accurate.than me trying to remember it now. I'll find that and paste it here.

Here it is, I toyed with some of the dosahes/compounds a bit at points but I'd say these numbers work or about right on avg:

1600mg test e and c weeks 1-11
300mg deca 1-11
700mg tren e 1-10
50mg dbol daily 1-4
HCG 400iu e3d 1-16
17-18 clomid/nolva 100/40 ed, aromasin 25mg eod
19-22 clomid/nolva/aromasin (stane) 50/20 ed /12.5 eod

Starting week 12 I started tapering the test down, halfing the prior dose with each shot. I increased HCG at the same time by 200iu per shot Deca 150mg week 12. Tapered tren down the same way starting in week 10 At 14 weeks I was done with im oil injections completely. continued HCG from 14-16 at 600iu

I'm in week 21 now. Pct is about done. That's why I got bw now and seeing the doc.

[marcus300]

Here it is, I toyed with some of the dosahes/compounds a bit at points but I'd say these numbers work or about right on avg:

1600mg test e and c weeks 1-11
300mg deca 1-11
700mg tren e 1-10
50mg dbol daily 1-4
HCG 400iu e3d 1-16
17-18 clomid/nolva 100/40 ed, aromasin 25mg eod
19-22 clomid/nolva/aromasin (stane) 50/20 ed /12.5 eod

Starting week 12 I started tapering the test down, halfing the prior dose with each shot. I increased HCG at the same time by 200iu per shot Deca 150mg week 12. Tapered tren down the same way starting in week 10 At 14 weeks I was done with im oil injections completely. continued HCG from 14-16 at 600iu

I'm in week 21 now. Pct is about done. That's why I got bw now and seeing the doc.

Way to much mg per week imho, it was over kill. Hope you recover but think its going to be a rough ride for you. Blood work wants to be around 6 weeks after pct to get some normal numbers and see what damage you may or may not have done.

Keep us informed

[Capebuffalo]

Looking good cape, what I would prioritise is thickness because the width is there. Build slabs of tissue all the way down either side of your spine and add thickness to the blades, your back will look completely different if you did that. Hit the thickness movements first and some back workouts just concentrate on thickness only. I did that for around 2 years and my back exploded and it even went wider to compensate the thickness.

Thickness is the key to most bodypart, ive concentrated on it many times to bring up my thickness and increase my muscle bellies, nothing worse than turning sideways and disappearing.

Looking good

Thank you. I don't see the width back there. Lol. But I will listen to you. So I know what to do for thickness around the spine. But what are good movements to add thickness to the blades?

[Java Man]

To much gear Java that's why your responding is sides, you should follow the bodies growth spurt and never stay on cycle to long, its counterproductive

Oh lordy what will you think now lol. That was only half of it I found my full detail post from a few weeks ago (above).

I totally agree with you there. Too much gear. I got great results but also a lot of sides. I'm still working on cleaning up the acne on my arms. I'm not going to run tren anymore, I think tren combined with deca was a dumb move, and test would probably have been just as effective at 900 to 1200.

[marcus300]

Thank you. I don't see the width back there. Lol. But I will listen to you. So I know what to do for thickness around the spine. But what are good movements to add thickness to the blades?

The back is huge so adding thickness to all the areas is something what your going to have to concentrate on, the upper back thickness around the trapezius and the lattisimus dorsi can be targeted by using different angles and contraction points. A few examples would be incline db rows which would be perform not on a flat bench, bent over bb rows at 45degree angle, T-bar rows and seated low pulley rows but bring the bar to the lower chest area instead of the lower stomach. Swap and change angles and places of the db/bb on contraction which will develop all the back thickness.