**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[thunderthor70]

With the battering ive put my body through over the years it does take its toll on your joints and body but if injuries do carry on which I am sure they are going to I may well look at changes things up but its so hard because when I use to do two major muscle groups my body didn't respond well to them but saying that if your getting injuries all the time its time to adjust things up. I think I will stick with pre exhausted for the time being and give it a good solid 3-6 months and see what happens, it seen's to be doing me really well and I'm just not built for doing two majors at this time....

At our age the years of heavy weights take a toll
Sometimes I feel like I'm trying to plug holes in a dam. Between shoulder, elbow, knee, and back issues popping up it's hard to hit the weights hard at times. On the other hand it's hard to change

[marcus300]

At our age the years of heavy weights take a toll
Sometimes I feel like I'm trying to plug holes in a dam. Between shoulder, elbow, knee, and back issues popping up it's hard to hit the weights hard at times. On the other hand it's hard to change

That's very true thunder, what ive noticed is if I implement deca /npp into my trt therapy all my aches and pains go away, I know I may be masking the problem but it completely changes my training and joint issues just fly away, this is something I am considering after ive finished some medication I'm on for an infection in the bladder.

[thunderthor70]

I spoke about switching up my split, and am considering some options, including splitting legs into two separate workouts and doing quads with shoulders. Also mentioned that I will now be incorporating rotator cuff excersises into every leg day.

About a year ago my shoulder pain was so bad I had a hard time lifting my arms above my head. I started doily cuff exercises with bands and self deep tissue massage with tennis balls and a foam roller. Lay on the tennis ball and roll around on it on your lats, traps, And shoulder blades. It helps me tremendously.

[thunderthor70]

That's very true thunder, what ive noticed is if I implement deca/npp into my trt therapy all my aches and pains go away, I know I may be masking the problem but it completely changes my training and joint issues just fly away, this is something I am considering after ive finished some medication I'm on for an infection in the bladder.

If you don't mind? What dose of deca did you use with your trt? I am going to start including it soon but want to use as little as possible

[marcus300]

If you don't mind? What dose of deca did you use with your trt? I am going to start including it soon but want to use as little as possible

100/150mgs per week really helped me a lot, last time I was on a small cycle of which was a blend of testp and npp and all my joint pain went away even my lower back which I struggle with all the time, its only because I am use to the pain I don't moan about it.

[thunderthor70]

100/150mgs per week really helped me a lot, last time I was on a small cycle of which was a blend of testp and npp and all my joint pain went away even my lower back which I struggle with all the time, its only because I am use to the pain I don't moan about it.

Thanks marcus. At this age dealing with the pain and working around it is another aspect I never had to deal with in my younger days. It should be : training, nutrition, rest, and pain management at this age. Not necessarily in that order!

[Hazard]

Wonder if those tennis balls will help with sciatica..... Maybe I can dead lift again

[marcus300]

Thanks marcus. At this age dealing with the pain and working around it is another aspect I never had to deal with in my younger days. It should be : training, nutrition, rest, and pain management at this age. Not necessarily in that order!

Very true, with the assault ive done over the years and the huge amount of stress ive implement there is no wonder your body starts to break down. I am constantly adjust things to suit my little aches and pains, but hey at my age its expected from what ive done. I will not stop I will carry on and I will find a way around this problem.............

[marcus300]

Wonder if those tennis balls will help with sciatica..... Maybe I can dead lift again

If you do go back to deads make sure you don't go lower than just below the shine mate, keep the tension on and lower the weight its worked for me but I don't heavy dead anymore and I have nothing to prove with 1 rep max shit, its all about building the back muscles for me and if you don't go to the floor its far more beneficial, just a thought

[marcus300]

Bloody hell 90,000 views and 185 pages, never knew it was that big, this thing is growing bigger faster than my biceps

[Hazard]

If you do go back to deads make sure you don't go lower than just below the shine mate, keep the tension on and lower the weight its worked for me but I don't heavy dead anymore and I have nothing to prove with 1 rep max shit, its all about building the back muscles for me and if you don't go to the floor its far more beneficial, just a thought

I tried doing rack deads..... So the bar goes to just above my knees

[Igifuno]

About a year ago my shoulder pain was so bad I had a hard time lifting my arms above my head. I started doily cuff exercises with bands and self deep tissue massage with tennis balls and a foam roller. Lay on the tennis ball and roll around on it on your lats, traps, And shoulder blades. It helps me tremendously.

Thx for the tip. I've used the foam roller and had helped a lot. Absolutely could use some deep tissue massage.

[thunderthor70]

Wonder if those tennis balls will help with sciatica..... Maybe I can dead lift again

Not sure about that Has but anything is worth a try. I have 2 glued together that I lay on and roll up and down on centered on my spine. That and a hard foam roller really loosen my back up and have reduced chiropractor visits

[Igifuno]

Bloody hell 90,000 views and 185 pages, never knew it was that big, this thing is growing bigger faster than my biceps

With no signs of slowing down.

[Igifuno]

When You Wonder Why - A Statement by Igifuno Dedicated to the Members

The question, why? It often finds its way into my head. When I’ve eaten so much, I can barely bend over to tie my shoes, in the shower, when I forget to bring in the shower brush and I can’t reach the back of my neck or any part of my back, or my ass crack. Through all the injuries I’ve sustained from training: a herniated disk, countless pulled muscles, extreme soreness and stiffness after intense training and when it hurts just to move.

Why?

Why do this to your body? Why put yourself through these things that will likely result in some sort of long term physical infirmity? Wouldn’t being an endurance athlete be easier? I would be more agile, have more stamina, there is less risk. I would save a ton of money on a variety of gear, food and supplements needed to sustain this mass I could be killing myself to build. Why do this when I know that, no matter what level I achieve in this sport, it will NEVER be good enough.. .why do I chase it?

Why?

The reason why is not always clear, and not to be understood by most, but what is clear is that I have made a commitment. A commitment to my body, and soul. We are warriors of the iron, and the same as a warrior is committed to the battlefield knowing he may return with permanent injury or worse, we are committed to the onslaught that we intentionally engage in, in an effort to chase greatness, and once achieved, to chase immortality. We do this in our sanctuaries, the sanctuaries of iron. We are on a never-ending quest.

In the moments when I am in the sanctuary and have put my muscles through hell, the blood pumping through the muscle belly, back pumps so severe I could easily crawl into a fetal position and cry, when progress is made either thought heavier weight or the mirror, when I enter into The Diary and share battle stories with fellow warriors, learn and apply new effective techniques that I bring to the battlefield, it is during these times when clarity is reached and I realize, this is why. This… is why.

[Capebuffalo]

When You Wonder Why - A Statement by Igifuno Dedicated to the Members

The question, why? It often finds its way into my head. When I’ve eaten so much, I can barely bend over to tie my shoes, in the shower, when I forget to bring in the shower brush and I can’t reach the back of my neck or any part of my back, or my ass crack. Through all the injuries I’ve sustained from training: a herniated disk, countless pulled muscles, extreme soreness and stiffness after intense training and when it hurts just to move.

Why?

Why do this to your body? Why put yourself through these things that will likely result in some sort of long term physical infirmity? Wouldn’t being an endurance athlete be easier? I would be more agile, have more stamina, there is less risk. I would save a ton of money on a variety of gear, food and supplements needed to sustain this mass I could be killing myself to build. Why do this when I know that, no matter what level I achieve in this sport, it will NEVER be good enough.. .why do I chase it?

Why?

The reason why is not always clear, and not to be understood by most, but what is clear is that I have made a commitment. A commitment to my body, and soul. We are warriors of the iron, and the same as a warrior is committed to the battlefield knowing he may return with permanent injury or worse, we are committed to the onslaught that we intentionally engage in, in an effort to chase greatness, and once achieved, to chase immortality. We do this in our sanctuaries, the sanctuaries of iron. We are on a never-ending quest.

In the moments when I am in the sanctuary and have put my muscles through hell, the blood pumping through the muscle belly, back pumps so severe I could easily crawl into a fetal position and cry, when progress is made either thought heavier weight or the mirror, when I enter into The Diary and share battle stories with fellow warriors, learn and apply new effective techniques that I bring to the battlefield, it is during these times when clarity is reached and I realize, this is why. This… is why.

Wow. You're right that is why.

[thunderthor70]

When You Wonder Why - A Statement by Igifuno Dedicated to the Members

The question, why? It often finds its way into my head. When I've eaten so much, I can barely bend over to tie my shoes, in the shower, when I forget to bring in the shower brush and I can't reach the back of my neck or any part of my back, or my ass crack. Through all the injuries I've sustained from training: a herniated disk, countless pulled muscles, extreme soreness and stiffness after intense training and when it hurts just to move.

Why?

Why do this to your body? Why put yourself through these things that will likely result in some sort of long term physical infirmity? Wouldn't being an endurance athlete be easier? I would be more agile, have more stamina, there is less risk. I would save a ton of money on a variety of gear, food and supplements needed to sustain this mass I could be killing myself to build. Why do this when I know that, no matter what level I achieve in this sport, it will NEVER be good enough.. .why do I chase it?

Why?

The reason why is not always clear, and not to be understood by most, but what is clear is that I have made a commitment. A commitment to my body, and soul. We are warriors of the iron, and the same as a warrior is committed to the battlefield knowing he may return with permanent injury or worse, we are committed to the onslaught that we intentionally engage in, in an effort to chase greatness, and once achieved, to chase immortality. We do this in our sanctuaries, the sanctuaries of iron. We are on a never-ending quest.

In the moments when I am in the sanctuary and have put my muscles through hell, the blood pumping through the muscle belly, back pumps so severe I could easily crawl into a fetal position and cry, when progress is made either thought heavier weight or the mirror, when I enter into The Diary and share battle stories with fellow warriors, learn and apply new effective techniques that I bring to the battlefield, it is during these times when clarity is reached and I realize, this is why. This... is why.

GREAT POST!
WHY? Because when I don't dedicate myself to this I become a drunk

[jasc]

When You Wonder Why - A Statement by Igifuno Dedicated to the Members

The question, why? It often finds its way into my head. When I've eaten so much, I can barely bend over to tie my shoes, in the shower, when I forget to bring in the shower brush and I can't reach the back of my neck or any part of my back, or my ass crack. Through all the injuries I've sustained from training: a herniated disk, countless pulled muscles, extreme soreness and stiffness after intense training and when it hurts just to move.

Why?

Why do this to your body? Why put yourself through these things that will likely result in some sort of long term physical infirmity? Wouldn't being an endurance athlete be easier? I would be more agile, have more stamina, there is less risk. I would save a ton of money on a variety of gear, food and supplements needed to sustain this mass I could be killing myself to build. Why do this when I know that, no matter what level I achieve in this sport, it will NEVER be good enough.. .why do I chase it?

Why?

The reason why is not always clear, and not to be understood by most, but what is clear is that I have made a commitment. A commitment to my body, and soul. We are warriors of the iron, and the same as a warrior is committed to the battlefield knowing he may return with permanent injury or worse, we are committed to the onslaught that we intentionally engage in, in an effort to chase greatness, and once achieved, to chase immortality. We do this in our sanctuaries, the sanctuaries of iron. We are on a never-ending quest.

In the moments when I am in the sanctuary and have put my muscles through hell, the blood pumping through the muscle belly, back pumps so severe I could easily crawl into a fetal position and cry, when progress is made either thought heavier weight or the mirror, when I enter into The Diary and share battle stories with fellow warriors, learn and apply new effective techniques that I bring to the battlefield, it is during these times when clarity is reached and I realize, this is why. This... is why.

Awesome Igi! Very well written

[Fcastle357]

Just a check in. Great workout today. Shoulders and back.......... Lots of great things in the diary lately. New people, literary works by Igi, and more inspirational photos. I would post a new photo but it would look like my old photo which is a good thing. Fighting to hold on to what I have through pct. I feel great and energy is high. A lot of great stuff here.

[Hazard]

When You Wonder Why - A Statement by Igifuno Dedicated to the Members

The question, why? It often finds its way into my head. When I've eaten so much, I can barely bend over to tie my shoes, in the shower, when I forget to bring in the shower brush and I can't reach the back of my neck or any part of my back, or my ass crack. Through all the injuries I've sustained from training: a herniated disk, countless pulled muscles, extreme soreness and stiffness after intense training and when it hurts just to move.

Why?

Why do this to your body? Why put yourself through these things that will likely result in some sort of long term physical infirmity? Wouldn't being an endurance athlete be easier? I would be more agile, have more stamina, there is less risk. I would save a ton of money on a variety of gear, food and supplements needed to sustain this mass I could be killing myself to build. Why do this when I know that, no matter what level I achieve in this sport, it will NEVER be good enough.. .why do I chase it?

Why?

The reason why is not always clear, and not to be understood by most, but what is clear is that I have made a commitment. A commitment to my body, and soul. We are warriors of the iron, and the same as a warrior is committed to the battlefield knowing he may return with permanent injury or worse, we are committed to the onslaught that we intentionally engage in, in an effort to chase greatness, and once achieved, to chase immortality. We do this in our sanctuaries, the sanctuaries of iron. We are on a never-ending quest.

In the moments when I am in the sanctuary and have put my muscles through hell, the blood pumping through the muscle belly, back pumps so severe I could easily crawl into a fetal position and cry, when progress is made either thought heavier weight or the mirror, when I enter into The Diary and share battle stories with fellow warriors, learn and apply new effective techniques that I bring to the battlefield, it is during these times when clarity is reached and I realize, this is why. This... is why.

Great post igi!

[Cuz]

When You Wonder Why - A Statement by Igifuno Dedicated to the Members

The question, why? It often finds its way into my head. When I’ve eaten so much, I can barely bend over to tie my shoes, in the shower, when I forget to bring in the shower brush and I can’t reach the back of my neck or any part of my back, or my ass crack. Through all the injuries I’ve sustained from training: a herniated disk, countless pulled muscles, extreme soreness and stiffness after intense training and when it hurts just to move.

Why?

Why do this to your body? Why put yourself through these things that will likely result in some sort of long term physical infirmity? Wouldn’t being an endurance athlete be easier? I would be more agile, have more stamina, there is less risk. I would save a ton of money on a variety of gear, food and supplements needed to sustain this mass I could be killing myself to build. Why do this when I know that, no matter what level I achieve in this sport, it will NEVER be good enough.. .why do I chase it?

Why?

The reason why is not always clear, and not to be understood by most, but what is clear is that I have made a commitment. A commitment to my body, and soul. We are warriors of the iron, and the same as a warrior is committed to the battlefield knowing he may return with permanent injury or worse, we are committed to the onslaught that we intentionally engage in, in an effort to chase greatness, and once achieved, to chase immortality. We do this in our sanctuaries, the sanctuaries of iron. We are on a never-ending quest.

In the moments when I am in the sanctuary and have put my muscles through hell, the blood pumping through the muscle belly, back pumps so severe I could easily crawl into a fetal position and cry, when progress is made either thought heavier weight or the mirror, when I enter into The Diary and share battle stories with fellow warriors, learn and apply new effective techniques that I bring to the battlefield, it is during these times when clarity is reached and I realize, this is why. This… is why.

Very well said brother.

[Giggle]

And 2550 Likes!
Great thread - my favorite.

Bloody hell 90,000 views and 185 pages, never knew it was that big, this thing is growing bigger faster than my biceps

[AD]

Igi the poet! who would have known!

[Java Man]

Had an identity crisis at 20? Glad you figured that out. Lol

Who says I figured it out?

[kronik420]

When You Wonder Why - A Statement by Igifuno Dedicated to the Members

The question, why? It often finds its way into my head. When I've eaten so much, I can barely bend over to tie my shoes, in the shower, when I forget to bring in the shower brush and I can't reach the back of my neck or any part of my back, or my ass crack. Through all the injuries I've sustained from training: a herniated disk, countless pulled muscles, extreme soreness and stiffness after intense training and when it hurts just to move.

Why?

Why do this to your body? Why put yourself through these things that will likely result in some sort of long term physical infirmity? Wouldn't being an endurance athlete be easier? I would be more agile, have more stamina, there is less risk. I would save a ton of money on a variety of gear, food and supplements needed to sustain this mass I could be killing myself to build. Why do this when I know that, no matter what level I achieve in this sport, it will NEVER be good enough.. .why do I chase it?

Why?

The reason why is not always clear, and not to be understood by most, but what is clear is that I have made a commitment. A commitment to my body, and soul. We are warriors of the iron, and the same as a warrior is committed to the battlefield knowing he may return with permanent injury or worse, we are committed to the onslaught that we intentionally engage in, in an effort to chase greatness, and once achieved, to chase immortality. We do this in our sanctuaries, the sanctuaries of iron. We are on a never-ending quest.

In the moments when I am in the sanctuary and have put my muscles through hell, the blood pumping through the muscle belly, back pumps so severe I could easily crawl into a fetal position and cry, when progress is made either thought heavier weight or the mirror, when I enter into The Diary and share battle stories with fellow warriors, learn and apply new effective techniques that I bring to the battlefield, it is during these times when clarity is reached and I realize, this is why. This... is why.

Post of the year

Off to the gym to destroy my legs... again...

[Capebuffalo]

Who says I figured it out?

I think your avi would be well different.

[satisfaction1822]

The past few weeks have been really rough, liftings been on and off, I slipped into a slump and gained about 7 pounds of fat that just stayed in my mid section. Up to 213-215#. My strength has went down a decent amount. I'm slowly getting back into it. Goal is to get back down to 200-208 and maintance that while leaning out. I want what I call a 6 pack back. The strength I lost the most was about 40# on dl which could also be cus of my mindset recently. Chest is still strong. Pushing out 275 for reps and squats have stayed the same.

[Sfla80]

Bloody hell 90,000 views and 185 pages, never knew it was that big, this thing is growing bigger faster than my biceps

Thats amazing...still would like to hear from all the lurkers out there. This thread has change my training dramatically. And I know many others. Would like to hear more stories.

[Giggle]

Just a question for you boys if you please: I'm in a growth phase and working really hard. Want to bring up my legs a bit. What do you think about doing legs (or any lagging body part) twice a week for a while?

[AD]

Just a question for you boys if you please: I'm in a growth phase and working really hard. Want to bring up my legs a bit. What do you think about doing legs (or any lagging body part) twice a week for a while?

for me, it depends on my rate of recovery. if its still aching, i wouldn't.

[Capebuffalo]

Just a question for you boys if you please: I'm in a growth phase and working really hard. Want to bring up my legs a bit. What do you think about doing legs (or any lagging body part) twice a week for a while?

I would split hams and quads. I couldn't do legs 2 x with the intensity required. My .02

[kelkel]

The past few weeks have been really rough, liftings been on and off, I slipped into a slump and gained about 7 pounds of fat that just stayed in my mid section. Up to 213-215#. My strength has went down a decent amount. I'm slowly getting back into it. Goal is to get back down to 200-208 and maintance that while leaning out. I want what I call a 6 pack back. The strength I lost the most was about 40# on dl which could also be cus of my mindset recently. Chest is still strong. Pushing out 275 for reps and squats have stayed the same.

We all go through phases both mentally and physically. Key is to find what motivates you best even when not feeling up to training and eating right and using it to push through it. Your mind is the biggest muscle we have to develop. This thread is a great source of motivation and gets better every day.

Glad you chose to post here Satisfaction! Stick around, learn, contribute and pay it forward!

[Giggle]

Thanks AD - yes recovery is usually by day 3, which leaves me plenty of time for a second session and a rest day.

for me, it depends on my rate of recovery. if its still aching, i wouldn't.

[kelkel]

Just a question for you boys if you please: I'm in a growth phase and working really hard. Want to bring up my legs a bit. What do you think about doing legs (or any lagging body part) twice a week for a while?

Good advice already given. Another thought would be to use the second day for more ancillary type movements. Extensions, lunges, stiff leg deads, abduction, adduction and so on.

[Giggle]

That's a good plan, Cape. I didn't think about that. But then, you'd only be hitting each part only once.
I'm trying for the intensity on both of the days - but it's not easy!

I would split hams and quads. I couldn't do legs 2 x with the intensity required. My .02

[thunderthor70]

Shoulders and calves tonight:
Warm up: rotator band exercises
Cable side laterals: 2 feel sets
1 working set: 35lbs. 7 reps, 2 forced
1 arm front cable laterals: 2 feel sets
1 working set: 35 lbs. 8 reps 2 forced
Db press: 1 feel set 1 working set: 100lbs. 5 reps. 2 forced

Standing calve raise: 2 feel sets 1 working set: 300lbs. 6 reps 2 forced, drop 280 lbs. 1 rep 1 forced
Seated calve raise: 1 feel 1 working: 225 lbs. 4 reps 1 forced, drop 180lbs. 1 rep 1 forced, drop 135 lbs 1 forced. Calves were screaming!

Culfs and elbows felt better than they have in weeks for some reason

[Giggle]

Thanks Kel -
Yea! That's great; concentrate on some of the things I don't usually have time to do.

[thunderthor70]

Oops! Forgot ebb shrugs and bent over latterals in that post

[kelkel]

Thanks Kel -
Yea! That's great; concentrate on some of the things I don't usually have time to do.

And that's part of the point. It will make it a bit more fun for you as well which in turn leads to progress.

[Hazard]

Good advice already given. Another thought would be to use the second day for more ancillary type movements. Extensions, lunges, stiff leg deads, abduction, adduction and so on.

I was going to go with this.....