**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Java Man]

eating big to improve something at the cost of something else was more my train of thought.

I have read that having a strong abdominal wall or something like that can help stopping your guts from pushing out after feeding, but to my understanding from time over time over feeding daily causes the distended stomach. People may say only steroids or GH does it. im keen to say from what i have seen first hand its from eating.

To my knowledge overly stretch fascia does shrink or go back to its original form. hear say from talking to massage therapists.

Ok. The GH angle is that it increases the size of smooth muscle so intestinal walls, organs, etc. get thicker, causing the distended belly look.. As far as I know that is irreversible. I haven't seen evidence that anabolic /androgenic agents do that. As for the abdominal walls/stretched fascia, I can tell you from my own experience that you can absolutely control that. If you stop eating the volume of food it takes to hold several lbs of processing waste in your digestive tract it will go down to normal. The fascia can be tightened again. I was fat last year and had lost much of the strength in my abdominals that I had on my 20's and early 30's. I stopped training after being a bodybuilder for 12 years. I didn't train for amost 10 years. When I started training again, I regained that control over my gut over the past year, even while eating 4500-5500 calories daily. I've also watched competitive females go through pregnancies and have their stage abs back within a few months after giving birth. Friends of mine, not on tv or youtube.

You have to eat big to grow, and its not selective to specific parts of the body.

[Back In Black]

Good to see youre back in the gym. Its getting better then?

Hmmm, not really. It's moving about a bit. I can't really pinpoint it tbh. There is less pain now then there was when I try and pinpoint which muscle and the sharp pain has gone and it's more dull. It'll be ANOTHER 7 days before I attempt a back session though. Delts may be interesting on Tuesday though.

[marcus300]

Super-setted bis/tris this morning before heading out of town. Gym was pretty empty so I didn't feel like a douche taking a pic.

Just seen this on my big screen instead of my phone, impressed sgt.

what size are those babies?

[marcus300]

After a week of trap/rhomboid/neck discomfort and minimal transport I have finally managed to train some upper body. My injury is still giving me lots of grief and has caused some sleep disturbance which resulted in dropping a couple of reps here and there from this workout:-

Incline dumbell press
1 straight set 8 reps
1 double drop set 5,2, 1.5 ( that .5 is important right!)

Flat dumbell press
1 double drop set 3,3,2

Incline flyes
1 straight set to failure 8 reps

Chucked a little bicep work in but was truly spent after my double drop standing dumbell curls. So it was pretty much a 5 working set workout for 2 body parts. And I'm spent

Good to see your back bib, I'm full of injuries and aches fuks me off but its all part of the game especially if your train HIT it doesn't half put you under pressure.

[marcus300]

When you 'waffle' I take out my notepad. Go ahead!

what would you like me to waffle about?

[Java Man]

what would you like me to waffle about?

Whatever train of thought youre on when you write 'oh sorry I'm waffling..' As its usually right about the point where I'm getting ready to learn some new BB angle.

Actually I have something in mind but I'llsee if it comes up again.

[Igifuno]

Been busy as hell with work and holiday preparations. Having board withdrawals.. Lol.

Still eating and training hard - headed into the gym now for back / tris.

[Back In Black]

what would you like me to waffle about?

These, can you tell us about them in more detail?

[marcus300]

These, can you tell us about them in more detail?

I'm eating everything and anything at the moment, cut back on cardio also so you can guess what I look like. Fat Marcus

[Back In Black]

I'm eating everything and anything at the moment, cut back on cardio also so you can guess what I look like. Fat Marcus

You and me both mate. Loving the eating part though

[kelkel]

When you 'waffle' I take out my notepad. Go ahead!

I hear "waffle" and just get hungry...

[Cuz]

no, do you have 110% idea of what it takes to get arms up to or as close as 21" ? not to mention not using synthol. like everything else it involves a great deal of calories.

I plan on getting mine to 20 pumped by the end of April. I may not r each 20 but im willing to bet I hit 19.5. my arms grow like weeds.

I nevet even thought about stretching my stomach to try and get big arms to be honest.if I eat 2000 cals over maintenance id just be fat, which I ccouldn't eat that much more clean whole foods.anyway would be too much to ingest lol. interesting point of view though..

hey man as far as shirts go I LOVE the glued on look. 21's would be sweet, I have no problem gettin in a large right now and they are around 18 give or take. the shirts are fun to me wearing them tight, I always get complimented at least once a week by a total stranger. itts a great feeling id love to turn heads all day long though like big Marcus does.

[Cuz]

im due for quads but since sarge posted his arm pic everybody is goin nuts over arms lol. I think i just might go train arms

[Rusty11]

That's the routine, kronik! I think you'll like it.

Thanks. I've been following this thread since day 1. Don't know how I missed this.

[thisAngelBites]

I'm eating everything and anything at the moment, cut back on cardio also so you can guess what I look like. Fat Marcus

Marcus, someone needs to take the christmas food, like the 1kg italian pandoro, out of my house. I've gained only a pound, which is a miracle, given all the food around this time of year.

I saw your Dorian Yates videos in another thread, and had a long, deciding that I needed to add some weights to my routine, and I whilst I already do wind sprints/HIIT in my cardio, I was curious about the lifting to failure stuff that you mention, and the Dorian Yates stuff. I'm only doing it a couple of times a week, but I wonder whether you know whether there is anything additional to take into account as a woman doing this.

Hope that's not a stupid question - I've worked with weights in the past, but I guess because I am fairly tall, and strong for a woman, I was able to lift a decent amount without too much critical thinking about what I was doing. I'd like to work smarter now.

[thisAngelBites]

Sorry, that second sentence should be that I saw the videos and decided that I needed to add some weights. I'm unable to edit posts for some reason.

[marcus300]

Marcus, someone needs to take the christmas food, like the 1kg italian pandoro, out of my house. I've gained only a pound, which is a miracle, given all the food around this time of year.

I saw your Dorian Yates videos in another thread, and had a long, deciding that I needed to add some weights to my routine, and I whilst I already do wind sprints/HIIT in my cardio, I was curious about the lifting to failure stuff that you mention, and the Dorian Yates stuff. I'm only doing it a couple of times a week, but I wonder whether you know whether there is anything additional to take into account as a woman doing this.

Hope that's not a stupid question - I've worked with weights in the past, but I guess because I am fairly tall, and strong for a woman, I was able to lift a decent amount without too much critical thinking about what I was doing. I'd like to work smarter now.

Slowly add resistance to your workouts and you will lose bf and increase tissue, HIT training is good for males and females just don't jump to much at once and learn to train to failure or at least push your body as far as your can so it has no alternative but to grow.

[marcus300]

I nevet even thought about stretching my stomach to try and get big arms to be honest..

You have never heard of it because its BS, muscle building process doesn't change for certain body parts. Train heavy eat big and train like a god.

[DCI]

Whats been going on all? Been outta here for a while as the work outs weren't great the last few weeks due to work being crazy busy looking forward to having xmas off to train relax and step it up in thenew year will post my progress pics over the holidays from the start

[thunderthor70]

Marcus, someone needs to take the christmas food, like the 1kg italian pandoro, out of my house. I've gained only a pound, which is a miracle, given all the food around this time of year.

I saw your Dorian Yates videos in another thread, and had a long, deciding that I needed to add some weights to my routine, and I whilst I already do wind sprints/HIIT in my cardio, I was curious about the lifting to failure stuff that you mention, and the Dorian Yates stuff. I'm only doing it a couple of times a week, but I wonder whether you know whether there is anything additional to take into account as a woman doing this.

Hope that's not a stupid question - I've worked with weights in the past, but I guess because I am fairly tall, and strong for a woman, I was able to lift a decent amount without too much critical thinking about what I was doing. I'd like to work smarter now.

Doesn't matter if you're a man or woman. My wife is a IFPA bodybuilder and trains with me. She is geting great results with HIT. She is puting on quality mass everywhere. To be honest I think she can handle the pain better than me!

[Cuz]

You have never heard of it because its BS, muscle building process doesn't change for certain body parts. Train heavy eat big and train like a god.

kind of what I wanted to say lol

[RipOwens]

Back time

[mockery]

You have never heard of it because its BS, muscle building process doesn't change for certain body parts. Train heavy eat big and train like a god.

people are being trolls trying to have a dig, i was TRYING to point out when bringing up weak body parts and increase of calories is added to make up for the extra training involved. not the specific feeding to the arms will stretch stomach fascia. AND in my own opinion alot of times its not worth it.

double face palm

[mockery]

I plan on getting mine to 20 pumped by the end of April. I may not r each 20 but im willing to bet I hit 19.5. my arms grow like weeds.

I nevet even thought about stretching my stomach to try and get big arms to be honest.if I eat 2000 cals over maintenance id just be fat, which I ccouldn't eat that much more clean whole foods.anyway would be too much to ingest lol. interesting point of view though..

hey man as far as shirts go I LOVE the glued on look. 21's would be sweet, I have no problem gettin in a large right now and they are around 18 give or take. the shirts are fun to me wearing them tight, I always get complimented at least once a week by a total stranger. itts a great feeling id love to turn heads all day long though like big Marcus does.

U could just wear compression shirts then. YOu would be a god

[NotTheSame]

Hey Marcus just reading through that routine of yours posted on the last page. Do you always do deadlifts last when doing back? Also i see you said no drops on dead's, i'm assuming to avoid injury yeah?

[Cuz]

U could just wear compression shirts then. YOu would be a god

are you talking about those under armour shirts that are really tight?

[mockery]

are you talking about those under armour shirts that are really tight?

yes.

[Mp859]

people are being trolls trying to have a dig, i was TRYING to point out when bringing up weak body parts and increase of calories is added to make up for the extra training involved. not the specific feeding to the arms will stretch stomach fascia. AND in my own opinion alot of times its not worth it.

double face palm

Are you the undercover troll?

[mockery]

Are you the undercover troll?

im pretty open about making a mockery of people on here. so undercover no.

[Mp859]

im pretty open about making a mockery of people on here. so undercover no.

I see. One must live up to his name.

[Cuz]

on topic, no training for me today, going to try to start tommorow. ive got another little problem that's come up to deal with, its always something. diet has been good today, but I have slept a lot today, only day I got to rest...unfortunately I missed couple meals but still got four in. report back later.

[AD]

on topic, no training for me today, going to try to start tommorow. ive got another little problem that's come up to deal with, its always something. diet has been good today, but I have slept a lot today, only day I got to rest...unfortunately I missed couple meals but still got four in. report back later.

like!

[Cuz]

like!

yeah!!!! someone noticed...Iol i can see where the thread was going and I know Marcus would not like that too much. I think we need to show the man some respect and keep his thread looking clean.

[RipOwens]

Hey Marcus just reading through that routine of yours posted on the last page. Do you always do deadlifts last when doing back? Also i see you said no drops on dead's, i'm assuming to avoid injury yeah?

Yeah, does anyone drop on deads? Curious myself.

[Java Man]

Probably will do back today. I've got someone staying at my house that gets on my nerves if I'm around him too much so I'll probably be spending a lot of time in the gym over the next few days.

[Mp859]

Probably will do back today. I've got someone staying at my house that gets on my nerves if I'm around him too much so I'll probably be spending a lot of time in the gym over the next few days.

Is it a brother in law by chance? If so I feel your pain.

[Java Man]

Is it a brother in law by chance? If so I feel your pain.

Worse. Dear old dad.

[Giggle]

Not me - for drops I try to strip the weight off immediately and re-start the set. With deads, it seems to me to be too time consuming to get plates off the bar.
I don't know about other people though.

Yeah, does anyone drop on deads? Curious myself.

[Igifuno]

Yeah, does anyone drop on deads? Curious myself.

Yes, I certainly have before.

[almostgone]

I've not been able to stick to my lift schedule last week due to work, but am really looking forward to making up for it this coming week. Should be able to hit cardio, lift, eat, and sleep at any time of day/night that I desire. (This is about the 22nd day in a row working; some of them 10+ hours... think I'm getting a tad stale).