**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[marcus300]

Legs and Ab's tonight. Was a heavy one did it very fast and to failure again feel great after it. Did a small a bit of arms also.

Was told by one of the bigger chaps in the gym who never opened his mouth to me before and generally would be one of the most ignorant chaps there, to be fair he is big and younger than me but was telling me I was doing curls wrong lol. Strange statement to just come out with but went with it and didn't say anything other than I know I wasn't keeping my elbows in close enough it's just something I could never do but I feel the tension on the muscle and my arms aren't the worst part of me so I can't be doing it all that wrong. He was saying he does his own variation of HIT but to me it's a very different thing to what I interupt from reading marcus' posts. He spent 40 mins Squatting tonight wereas we had everything done and were waiting on him to finish in the squat rack and doing failure neg's.

There are many styles of HIT, find out what works for you and adapt it

[DCI]

Def man, already have started on certain exercises

[kelkel]

My training stays the same whether dieting or bulking, what built the muscle will keep the muscle. If I am dieting I will carb cycle very slowly with my main concern of preserving muscle tissue, I've mentioned in the first part of this thread what I do but I just carb cycle and try and drop bf by cardio first and I never restrict cals to much. Disaster for muscle tissue IMHO and i'm very old school when it comes to things like this lol

Absolute best line right there in bold. Too many guys think that training has to radically change if they want to cut or bulk. Then they wonder where their hard earned muscle went to.....

[DCI]

Absolute best line right there in bold. Too many guys think that training has to radically change if they want to cut or bulk. Then they wonder where their hard earned muscle went to.....

A question for the both of ye, do ye rotate your programmes ie one week monday chest the next week, say ye start with back etc? This could have been asked already but I may have missed it. The only reason I am asking is because I hear so many different and conflicting opinions I'd rather ask the pair of yet with decent and sustained experience and opinions

[marcus300]

A question for the both of ye, do ye rotate your programmes ie one week monday chest the next week, say ye start with back etc? This could have been asked already but I may have missed it. The only reason I am asking is because I hear so many different and conflicting opinions I'd rather ask the pair of yet with decent and sustained experience and opinions

My routine isn't static so it can change if I need it to be, if a certain bodypart doesn't feel repaired I will tackle another one. Change is good for many reasons so keep your body guessing and just go with the flow...

[marcus300]

Had to go to hospital today at 1am because I was pissing blood, didn't look good but they think its a water infection but don't feel so good wont be training till next week....See if I can get rid of this infection

[panntastic]

Had to go to hospital today at 1am because I was pissing blood, didn't look good but they think its a water infection but don't feel so good wont be training till next week....See if I can get rid of this infection

Holy shit get better soon big fella

[Zodiac82]

Had to go to hospital today at 1am because I was pissing blood, didn't look good but they think its a water infection but don't feel so good wont be training till next week....See if I can get rid of this infection

damn thats sucks man....hope thats all thats wrong....had to be a scary site though

[DCI]

My routine isn't static so it can change if I need it to be, if a certain bodypart doesn't feel repaired I will tackle another one. Change is good for many reasons so keep your body guessing and just go with the flow...

Excellent, I do a 8 week rotation mainly. Sorry to hear about the blood man, you got a heavy infection by the sounds of it sorry to hear that.

[Knockout_Power]

Had to go to hospital today at 1am because I was pissing blood, didn't look good but they think its a water infection but don't feel so good wont be training till next week....See if I can get rid of this infection

currently on cycle?

[Knockout_Power]

How often do you train a light week to avoid injury when you are on a heavy program? I had to take week 4 off(dropped weight to about 60%) after 3 heavier weeks cause I was feeling some tension in my elbows

[gearbox]

How often do you train a light week to avoid injury when you are on a heavy program? I had to take week 4 off(dropped weight to about 60%) after 3 heavier weeks cause I was feeling some tension in my elbows

I just try to train less but hard. We are all guilty of over training at some point.
I believe kel trains 3x a week that's it. I could be wrong. Thats 4 rest days.
I personally rest one and the other rest day is light cardio.

[kelkel]

Correct GB. M-W-F. That's it.

[AD]

Had to go to hospital today at 1am because I was pissing blood, didn't look good but they think its a water infection but don't feel so good wont be training till next week....See if I can get rid of this infection

you were just recovering from a bout of flu right? and now this, so soon? if i remember correctly, some sort of bacteria infection can trigger an abnormal response from your immune system and cause it to damage the kidneys, giving rise to blood in the pee. hope they did some test to exclude that.

IgA nephropathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read under "signs and symptoms"

[AD]

Correct GB. M-W-F. That's it.

i only have time for 3 days too, due to work schedule. how is your split like? i always find myself rushing and its hard to get to every single bodypart.

[kelkel]

M: Chest, Bi's, Tri's

W: Total legs

F: Back and Shoulders

Now, before people say chest and arms are too much in one sitting. It simply works for me. I've been doing this a long time and understand my body. I get the entire workout done in just short of an hour (50 minutes) from the moment I hit my gym, including warm ups. I do not do a lot of sets and my training is pretty much how Marcus describes his theories. It's been this way for about 8-10 yrs now basically. As I've gotten older I've realized how important rest and recuperation really are and that we grow "outside" the gym. I also train exceptionally fast. I consider myself an "impatient" bodybuilder and just don't rest much. Probably why I never felt the need to do cardio.

After chest I hit biceps as it tends to give my triceps a brief period to recuperate. When I get to tri's they are still warm so I don't have to kill myself with a lot of warm-ups to get things going.

Anyway, that's basically my Monday workout. My gym is in my basement so the equipment is limited. I have to rely a bit more on intensity and motivation to keep getting results. Basic exercises simply work with the right mind-set. You don't need all the fancy crap. My goal is to get down there, be as productive as I can in as short a period as I can and get the fvck out. I've got other things to do!

kel

[AD]

i am currently doing
mon: shoulders and back (rows)
thurs: chest and back (pulldowns)
fri: arms and legs.

marcus thought my split looks funny. maybe i should try yours?

[kelkel]

I have done chest and back years ago together. Tough to do. Antagonistic muscle groups. There's something to be said for it but I would not do it again nor do I feel I could with maximum intensity.

I could never do anything after legs. Impossible as that body part would be short-changed both mentally and physically.

Back and shoulders I like. Doing back first warms up my shoulders and since switching to that combination I've had far less shoulder issues.

Plus, if you're a cardio guy it gives you free days just for that purpose. Also if you choose to do some extra work for a particular body part the weekends are free to do so.

Give it a try. Change is good!

[AD]

I have done chest and back years ago together. Tough to do. Antagonistic muscle groups. There's something to be said for it but I would not do it again nor do I feel I could with maximum intensity.

I could never do anything after legs. Impossible as that body part would be short-changed both mentally and physically.

Back and shoulders I like. Doing back first warms up my shoulders and since switching to that combination I've had far less shoulder issues.

Plus, if you're a cardio guy it gives you free days just for that purpose. Also if you choose to do some extra work for a particular body part the weekends are free to do so.

Give it a try. Change is good!

that is so true. i always feel like going home straight after squats.

will start next wk. thanks for the help kel! will post new pics after a few months if there is any quick results. thanks again.

[marcus300]

currently on cycle?

No I am off cycle

How often do you train a light week to avoid injury when you are on a heavy program? I had to take week 4 off(dropped weight to about 60%) after 3 heavier weeks cause I was feeling some tension in my elbows

I take a step back when I need it, usually my body will let me know to take down the intensity or have more rest days

you were just recovering from a bout of flu right? and now this, so soon? if i remember correctly, some sort of bacteria infection can trigger an abnormal response from your immune system and cause it to damage the kidneys, giving rise to blood in the pee. hope they did some test to exclude that.

IgA nephropathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read under "signs and symptoms"

Your right, thanks for the information

M: Chest, Bi's, Tri's

W: Total legs

F: Back and Shoulders

Now, before people say chest and arms are too much in one sitting. It simply works for me. I've been doing this a long time and understand my body. I get the entire workout done in just short of an hour (50 minutes) from the moment I hit my gym, including warm ups. I do not do a lot of sets and my training is pretty much how Marcus describes his theories. It's been this way for about 8-10 yrs now basically. As I've gotten older I've realized how important rest and recuperation really are and that we grow "outside" the gym. I also train exceptionally fast. I consider myself an "impatient" bodybuilder and just don't rest much. Probably why I never felt the need to do cardio.

After chest I hit biceps as it tends to give my triceps a brief period to recuperate. When I get to tri's they are still warm so I don't have to kill myself with a lot of warm-ups to get things going.

Anyway, that's basically my Monday workout. My gym is in my basement so the equipment is limited. I have to rely a bit more on intensity and motivation to keep getting results. Basic exercises simply work with the right mind-set. You don't need all the fancy crap. My goal is to get down there, be as productive as I can in as short a period as I can and get the fvck out. I've got other things to do!

kel

always good advice my friend

i am currently doing
mon: shoulders and back (rows)
thurs: chest and back (pulldowns)
fri: arms and legs.

marcus thought my split looks funny. maybe i should try yours?

Change is good, I couldn't train that split the way I train but for you its working......

that is so true. i always feel like going home straight after squats.

will start next wk. thanks for the help kel! will post new pics after a few months if there is any quick results. thanks again.

[kelkel]

that is so true. i always feel like going home straight after squats.

will start next wk. thanks for the help kel! will post new pics after a few months if there is any quick results. thanks again.

Absolutely. Remember, chest and arms can be a lot of work in one sitting so be sure to limit the amount of sets and make what you do count. Try giving yourself a set amount of time to get the workout done in and adhere to it, no matter what. After a while you'll be able to shorten the time period even more and your workouts will become more and more productive. Remember there are only a few ways to increase intensity, one is to increase the weight and another is to shorten rest periods. As your body adapts it has no choice but to grow assuming your nutrition is on point.

[Zodiac82]

^^^^funny thing about that....last night I cut out 2 sets on each workout I did and it felt like I got a MUCH better workout in while doing less....weird how the body is

[AD]

Absolutely. Remember, chest and arms can be a lot of work in one sitting so be sure to limit the amount of sets and make what you do counts. Try giving yourself a set amount of time to get the workout done in and adhere to it, no matter what. After a while you'll be able to shorten the time period even more and your workouts will become more and more productive. Remember there are only a few ways to increase intensity, one is to increase the weight and another is to shorten rest periods. As your body adapts it has no choice but to grow assuming your nutrition is on point.

Thanks for the tip boss. Will report back next wk. I used to do 3 work sets per exercise. First 2 sets to positive failure and double dropsets on the third. If the time is tight, i will have to improvise a little. We'll see. Thanks again.

[kelkel]

^^^^funny thing about that....last night I cut out 2 sets on each workout I did and it felt like I got a MUCH better workout in while doing less....weird how the body is

The answer to that is no doubt this: Knowing you were going to cut out some sets you actually worked HARDER on the less sets that you did! That's how it starts and you're off to the races! It's the mind-set you want to develop!

[--->>405<<---]

monday: legs

thursday: chest, lats

saturday: back thickness, shoulders, traps

ive been doing all HIT: triple drop sets to failure - 2 work sets and loving it! havent done an isolated arm exercise in 6 months!

[basketballfan22]

Kelkel, you only work out 3 times per week? How often do you lift marcus300? Currently my routine (without any details) is:

Monday: Shoulders
Tuesday: Back
Wednesday: Chest
Thursday: Legs
Friday: Arms/abs.

I used to do full body workouts, and then I switched to upper and lower body splits. For the past year and a half, I have been doing these isolated splits.

[marcus300]

Kelkel, you only work out 3 times per week? How often do you lift marcus300? Currently my routine (without any details) is:

Monday: Shoulders
Tuesday: Back
Wednesday: Chest
Thursday: Legs
Friday: Arms/abs.

I used to do full body workouts, and then I switched to upper and lower body splits. For the past year and a half, I have been doing these isolated splits.

I try and train 5 times per week but depends on my work schedule.

[Zodiac82]

The answer to that is no doubt this: Knowing you were going to cut out some sets you actually worked HARDER on the less sets that you did! That's how it starts and you're off to the races! It's the mind-set you want to develop!

yeh im waitin for monday to roll around(anxious) so I can see it fairs with other body parts

[marcus300]

Don't feel so good guys in my water works, got pains in my lower abs now when I am pissing but no blood anymore. Just don't feel right in myself and there is no way I could train like I do at present........losing weight also but that's because I cant eat like I use to at the moment because I just feel like shite....if this carries on going to have to go back to the hospital..

[AD]

Don't feel so good guys in my water works, got pains in my lower abs now when I am pissing but no blood anymore. Just don't feel right in myself and there is no way I could train like I do at present........losing weight also but that's because I cant eat like I use to at the moment because I just feel like shite....if this carries on going to have to go back to the hospital..

Antibiotics from the first visit not working? Fever? Chills?

[Zodiac82]

Don't feel so good guys in my water works, got pains in my lower abs now when I am pissing but no blood anymore. Just don't feel right in myself and there is no way I could train like I do at present........losing weight also but that's because I cant eat like I use to at the moment because I just feel like shite....if this carries on going to have to go back to the hospital..

did u get x-rays when u went last time

[marcus300]

Antibiotics from the first visit not working? Fever? Chills?

Sweating a lot and feel cold, temp seems to be ok. I've not been on the antibiotics for long but they have stopped the blood just hope its the back end of the water infection. I have to work today so will see how things go with another day on the meds......just don't feel 100%

[marcus300]

did u get x-rays when u went last time

No didnt get x rays

[AD]

Sweating a lot and feel cold, temp seems to be ok. I've not been on the antibiotics for long but they have stopped the blood just hope its the back end of the water infection. I have to work today so will see how things go with another day on the meds......just don't feel 100%

If the fever is gone and the blood has cleared, probably the antibiotics are working. May take up to 1-2wks to completely clear. Hope they gave you enough pills. You may then need another urine test to make sure there isnt anymore microscopic bleeding.

Xrays may need to be done cos urinary infection should not occur spontaneously in men unless there are other problems causing the infection.(stone or stricture or other abnormalities). Ultrasound or contrast xray studies are the usual next step.

[AD]

They gave you a follow-up appt right?

[marcus300]

They gave you a follow-up appt right?

No they said they would send for me if the tests come back with other issues. I'll see how I am over next few days thanks.

[DCI]

Holy shit man, hope you get better soon. I wonder what triggered ot off during the week as you were saying training was going ok. Get well soon and hopefully the recovery won't be too long

[AD]

No they said they would send for me if the tests come back with other issues. I'll see how I am over next few days thanks.

Dont forget to keep well hydrated. Each time you pee, you are flushing the system and removing some of the bacteria.

Get well soon!

[marcus300]

Dont forget to keep well hydrated. Each time you pee, you are flushing the system and removing some of the bacteria.

Get well soon!

Yeh they told me to do that. At moment I'm on 4 litres ed

[clarky.]

Sweating a lot and feel cold, temp seems to be ok. I've not been on the antibiotics for long but they have stopped the blood just hope its the back end of the water infection. I have to work today so will see how things go with another day on the meds......just don't feel 100%

Hope you get back to full fitness soon mate.