**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Java Man]

Nice ink Marcus. I don't have any myself but when I get one it will be massive like yours lol. I don't do anything moderately. Something tells me you don't either!

[DCI]

Glad you enjoyed it DCI, training in this style can bring on injuries if you don't recover properly or warm up right. These are the areas you also need to get right on the mark. Training at this level can be harsh you just have to listen to your body and work with it instead of against.

We always do 2/3 light warm up sets just to get the blood flowing. Then two working sets and now we are back to heaviest weight hit training with dropsets and forced reps. Thankfully I only have had a few small injuries and because of them I don't do anything silly I learned my leason from hurting myself. Id rather push weight up slowly than just whack more on and think I can lit it I've always been more of do thungs slowly and correctly and you will be more than safe than pushing on too soon.

Good man on getting black in the merc i meant to say that earlier best colour for em

[Java Man]

I start every workout with 2 sets of 50 reps bench press and squats or deads with light weight just to get the blood flowing, then stretch chest and legs, no matter what body parts I'm working that day. When I see my neck veins popping, I know I'm ready lol.

[DCI]

Yeh like marcus says once you to know your body you will understand when to push and when to just stay at it and push for hard reps etc. to be honest I am still learning a lot etc just reading everywere on this site something new comes up to try etc

[Java Man]

And just when you think you know your body, it decides to change on you!

[DCI]

Lol i get that all right, some days feelunreal. Yesterday was one of them crazy pump feeling all day and i couldnt have had a worse sleep or food intake for the day prevoius weird how that works.

And today feel flat and weak. Will be off to do cardio in a min which will be fun

[Rusty11]

And just when you think you know your body, it decides to change on you!

Exactly. When you get old like me, your fricking body is the evil enemy. Yesterday, I probably had my best chest/bi workout ever. Today, my lower back hurts like hell. Where's the connection between what body parts were trained and why the F my back hurts. The only answer: AGE! lol. It sux.

[kelkel]

Thanks Kel for your comments as always we are from the same mould. I must say though you are a genetic freak and not many have the good fortune to have amazing genetic as you. I love your style and would be great to train together one day

Oh definitely same old school philosophy. When it comes to genetics though I never, ever thought that. I was a skinny fvck when I started at around 150lbs. Gains never came easy to me due to being an ectomorph. I just knew what I wanted and always worked harder than my friends. Very few training partners lasted that long just due to the intensity maintained. They'd do great for a while but then would always want to fall back into the bullshitting around between sets and not focusing, etc. I grew out of that at a young age as I knew what I wanted.

If I saw what I thought was a weak point I would focus on it. Example of that was calves. For years I would do them first on leg day. Logic is simply this: Most guys do them at the end of leg day when they're tired. Their mindset is to just "get them over with" and go home. Which is why it's a weak body part for so many guys, IMHO. They'd never start chest or arms that way, right? On top of that doing them first actually will warm you up for your heavy leg work to follow. Then when done legs it's refreshing to know that you don't have to follow with calves. Sorry for the minor story / rant.

And yes Marcus. Training together would be killer.

[MajorPectorial]

Oh definitely same old school philosophy. When it comes to genetics though I never, ever thought that. I was a skinny fvck when I started at around 150lbs. Gains never came easy to me due to being an ectomorph. I just knew what I wanted and always worked harder than my friends. Very few training partners lasted that long just due to the intensity maintained. They'd do great for a while but then would always want to fall back into the bullshitting around between sets and not focusing, etc. I grew out of that at a young age as I knew what I wanted.

If I saw what I thought was a weak point I would focus on it. Example of that was calves. For years I would do them first on leg day. Logic is simply this: Most guys do them at the end of leg day when they're tired. Their mindset is to just "get them over with" and go home. Which is why it's a weak body part for so many guys, IMHO. They'd never start chest or arms that way, right? On top of that doing them first actually will warm you up for your heavy leg work to follow. Then when done legs it's refreshing to know that you don't have to follow with calves. Sorry for the minor story / rant.

And yes Marcus. Training together would be killer.

So swapping my leg day around!!!

[kelkel]

Yesterday's back and shoulders:

T-Bar rows. Mine is the classic version with an olympic bar shoved in a corner: Several warm ups to get to working weight.
1 heavy set around 12 reps followed by a RP set. Love this exercise. Seriously watch your form and don't get sloppy. Protect your back.

Smith machine bent rows. One warm up to make sure.
2 heavy sets 8-10 reps. Second set with rest pause.

Spider row on smith (35 degree angle)
2 sets, 8-12 reps

Front pulldowns (strict-little swinging)
2 sets each with one RP

Shrugs. One warm up.
2 heavy. Last set with RP then drop a plate and repped out.

***********

Shoulders:

Laterals. Two good warm-ups.
2 sets with triple drop on last set.

Front presses on smith. Two warm ups.
2 working sets with RP on last

Bent over real laterals on 35% bench.
2 sets to failure.

Crushed it. Feeling it today.

[AD]

^^kel, for your t-bar rows and smith bent rows, how much forward to you bend? 45 degrees?

for the shoulder press, do you prefer standing or sitting?

[MajorPectorial]

I'm a sitting shoulder press guy. Use squat rack for lift off. No bouncing. Pressed from chest..bench at 15% from upright. One feeler. One working near Max. Then Max weight for two to the sets. Having to drop reps.
I've now refused to drop my weights I'm maxed at atm. Just keep doing them. Every time I do 8. I increase. Keep going again.gaining bits by the weeks ;-) how bout u Marcus;-)

[marcus300]

Nice ink Marcus. I don't have any myself but when I get one it will be massive like yours lol. I don't do anything moderately. Something tells me you don't either!

That pic was as soon as my artist finished a 7 hour sitting, which hurt like fuk but as you can tell I like torture, thanks. I do have more

We always do 2/3 light warm up sets just to get the blood flowing. Then two working sets and now we are back to heaviest weight hit training with dropsets and forced reps. Thankfully I only have had a few small injuries and because of them I don't do anything silly I learned my leason from hurting myself. Id rather push weight up slowly than just whack more on and think I can lit it I've always been more of do thungs slowly and correctly and you will be more than safe than pushing on too soon.

Good man on getting black in the merc i meant to say that earlier best colour for em

Sounds good dci just make sure you recover the muscle fully before training it again, that's when injury can occur.

Yes the Merc looks good in black, amazing car thanks

Yeh like marcus says once you to know your body you will understand when to push and when to just stay at it and push for hard reps etc. to be honest I am still learning a lot etc just reading everywere on this site something new comes up to try etc

Your learning fast of jedi

Oh definitely same old school philosophy. When it comes to genetics though I never, ever thought that. I was a skinny fvck when I started at around 150lbs. Gains never came easy to me due to being an ectomorph. I just knew what I wanted and always worked harder than my friends. Very few training partners lasted that long just due to the intensity maintained. They'd do great for a while but then would always want to fall back into the bullshitting around between sets and not focusing, etc. I grew out of that at a young age as I knew what I wanted.

If I saw what I thought was a weak point I would focus on it. Example of that was calves. For years I would do them first on leg day. Logic is simply this: Most guys do them at the end of leg day when they're tired. Their mindset is to just "get them over with" and go home. Which is why it's a weak body part for so many guys, IMHO. They'd never start chest or arms that way, right? On top of that doing them first actually will warm you up for your heavy leg work to follow. Then when done legs it's refreshing to know that you don't have to follow with calves. Sorry for the minor story / rant.

And yes Marcus. Training together would be killer.

Thanks Kel for your comments they are most welcome, we are two peas in the same pod and have the exact same principles regarding training and how we attack growth, ive not seen anything what I disagree with your like my twin, would be excellent to train together and video it and post it up here to show these guys how we kill ourselves lol, wonder how many hits our youtube video would get????

^^kel, for your t-bar rows and smith bent rows, how much forward to you bend? 45 degrees?

for the shoulder press, do you prefer standing or sitting?

I will let Kel answer for himself but for me these are the exact ones I do, and they have really piled on some slabs of tissue all over my back in width and thickness

[AD]

Thanks marcus. I assume your t-bar row will look very similar?

What about shoulder press? Whats your preference? Standing or sitting?

[marcus300]

Thanks marcus. I assume your t-bar row will look very similar?

What about shoulder press? Whats your preference? Standing or sitting?

Its not often I do T-bar rows, I normal stick with bent over rows DY style, single DB rows off a flat bench and hypers. I had a weak back but I focused all my energy and attention on bring it out and getting some thickness so I tried many different movements and found out which ones my back respond well to and I stuck with them.

Shoulder press - I never really do standing shoulder press due to the weight I lift and going to failure and beyond, it would create to much tension on the spine and would make you bend my back which would be prone to injury, so I tend to always sit down and do the smith machine or DB press. What I focus on is bring my shoulder blades down and locked them in when you have the weight above your head this will help give you more strength in the pressing movement and help from pulling anything your shouldn't. Just like benching when you hold the traps together the position is far better for executing the movement and really focusing on hitting the heaviest weight and with the most intensity possible.

All you got to do when your training and getting ready for a power movement is to think your body knows whats about to happen and what stress your going to put it under so you have to shock it, more intensity, more weight, more reps, dropset, forced, negatives, rest pause to completely failure, these are the key tools you need to make your body grow, don't ever let your body adapt to keep it guessing and keeping the pressure on and forcing growth.

[DCI]

[QUOTE=marcus300;6598634]

Sounds good dci just make sure you recover the muscle fully before training it again, that's when injury can occur.

Yes the Merc looks good in black, amazing car thanks


Your learning fast of jedi
[\QUOTE]

Thanks Marcus. Yeh we leave each body part a good 4/5 days before training them again they are fully recovered. This for me anyway really makes me raging to go when they day comes back.

Ohh I'm like a sponge at the mo just taking it all in from the two of ye posting your experiences and challenges.

[AD]

Thanks for your explanation Marcus. I have been using the t-bar all along. But recently my strength gains seem to have stopped. Will try to switch over to the bb row or with the smith machine.

As for training intensity, i know DOMS and aches are not a good gauge. People can train in such a way where they dont get sore but still grow. For me, i always ache for at least 2-3days. Every single session, every body part. Can i take that as a good indication that my intensity is ok?

[DCI]

I ache too normally its grand the next day but jesus the day after the horror of the pain is intense but great

[AD]

I ache too normally its grand the next day but jesus the day after the horror of the pain is intense but great

Exactly. Thats what i'm talking about. I hope thats proof that i'm doing enough, pushing hard enough.

[DCI]

Well in my limited knowledge and taking weekly pics in the last 6 months I've seen my front and rear delts explode and my V explode found new steech marks on my arms which can only be a good thing.

And as marcus and kel say keep feeding your body it is by far and away the biggest key. I never really thought too mch about it but I spent 20% more time on diet and results are easily 40% better than anything before

[ppwc1985]

Thanks for your explanation Marcus. I have been using the t-bar all along. But recently my strength gains seem to have stopped. Will try to switch over to the bb row or with the smith machine.

As for training intensity, i know DOMS and aches are not a good gauge. People can train in such a way where they dont get sore but still grow. For me, i always ache for at least 2-3days. Every single session, every body part. Can i take that as a good indication that my intensity is ok?

AD, do you get doms in your biceps too. I just never seem to be able to. What do you do for them.

[ppwc1985]

Its not often I do T-bar rows, I normal stick with bent over rows DY style, single DB rows off a flat bench and hypers. I had a weak back but I focused all my energy and attention on bring it out and getting some thickness so I tried many different movements and found out which ones my back respond well to and I stuck with them.

Shoulder press - I never really do standing shoulder press due to the weight I lift and going to failure and beyond, it would create to much tension on the spine and would make you bend my back which would be prone to injury, so I tend to always sit down and do the smith machine or DB press. What I focus on is bring my shoulder blades down and locked them in when you have the weight above your head this will help give you more strength in the pressing movement and help from pulling anything your shouldn't. Just like benching when you hold the traps together the position is far better for executing the movement and really focusing on hitting the heaviest weight and with the most intensity possible.

All you got to do when your training and getting ready for a power movement is to think your body knows whats about to happen and what stress your going to put it under so you have to shock it, more intensity, more weight, more reps, dropset, forced, negatives, rest pause to completely failure, these are the key tools you need to make your body grow, don't ever let your body adapt to keep it guessing and keeping the pressure on and forcing growth.

Marcus, what's your thoughts on using different hammer strength equipment for replacing db presses?

[marcus300]

Thanks for your explanation Marcus. I have been using the t-bar all along. But recently my strength gains seem to have stopped. Will try to switch over to the bb row or with the smith machine.

As for training intensity, i know DOMS and aches are not a good gauge. People can train in such a way where they dont get sore but still grow. For me, i always ache for at least 2-3days. Every single session, every body part. Can i take that as a good indication that my intensity is ok?

I also like T-bar rows but I have a better contraction and my full range of motion is a lot better using the bb row. I can lock my lower back into position and concentrate on using some weight and working my lats to there fullest.

If your tender the following days after training then I would say yes your on the right track, I know DOMS isn't as true indication of working the muscle to its limit but all these science guys quoting studies after studies on it makes me laugh. When I train hard, heavy, to failure and beyond my muscle soreness is bad and then I grow, so do what works and don't listen to much to the science shite what floats about. Do what works to promote growth.

[marcus300]

Marcus, what's your thoughts on using different hammer strength equipment for replacing db presses?

Hammer strength machines are really good, ive had excellent results using them, some don't flow with how my body is build but others just work bloody great. Use them in conjunction with other movements and see how your growth goes. Don't under estimate machines they do have their place in building muscle tissue. Sometimes we cant get the right groove with some machine and if that happens go with free weights, we are all build different in heights and length of limbs so some machines just don't flow correctly.

Use both free and machines to get the job done, the main priority is taking your muscle to failure and beyond buy progressively overloading the muscle so they have no alternative but to grow...

[marcus300]

AD, do you get doms in your biceps too. I just never seem to be able to. What do you do for them.

What is your bicep routine?
do you train to failure?
do you train volume or HIT?
How big are your arms?
Have they grown over the last 12 months?

[marcus300]

Some very important points I want to get across below

Kel and others chime in and give your opinions pls

You can turn this thread into any direction you want, myself, Kel and anyone else who wants to give their experience or knowledge can all chime in to help you guys in any areas you need.

I can’t express enough that no one should be using 5g per week or even thinking of trying it, I was open and honest with what ive done but it doesn’t mean anyone else should try it. It wont turn you into a pro trust me on this one more is better up to a point but 3g/5g per week is crazy and if you want my honest opinion no one should be even considering these amounts at the level you are. I would only go on these types of dosages for short periods of time all done within a short heavy burst cycle, but the sides at 5g were a lot more, what ever sides you get on 1000mgs per week times it by 5 plus some more.

It is a struggle to maintain the size ive built over the years when I started to have serious sides with low testosterone my size went down hill fast once I got stable on my trt protocol things started to improve but the sides and the way I felt in my head with low T really made me think about my future so for around 4 years I stopped cycling all together and just ran my TRT dose. My weight and muscle started to build up again and I got back up to 240lbs-245lbs just on trt.

The one thing I am certain of how I did this was my TRAINING and how hard and intense I trained. I have a lot of anger and rage inside me with stuff what happened in my past which I can channel into training and I can easily go into the pain zone and force new growth, training to failure is easy for me and going beyond failure isn't a great problem either, I can put myself in a mental state where I can attack anything what's put in front of me, controlling my mind set to put myself through torture is easy for me but it is one of the hardness things anyone can learn to do.

I maintained 240-245lbs just on hrt and that’s why I cant express enough the importance of training correctly, forget steroids because in all honesty most guys shouldn’t be using them anyway with the little muscle they carry. People should learn how to train correctly and eat right and this is where many let themselves down. I train to an inch of my life I go into the gym and train that hard and intense my body as no alternative but to grow to compensate the torture and overload I put it under, I don’t limit my food intake with these fancy calories restricting stupid diets or the latest diet fade like IF shite, I eat and I eat loads to fuel my workouts and support growth.

Sorry for the rant guys but please don’t think its all about steroids it isn’t, don’t think if you double your test dose you will double your gains, take a good look at yourself and give yourself a honest opinion –are you carrying decent amounts of muscle? if your not why the hell are you taking lumps of gear, build muscle tissue by hard intense training and feed the growth with enough food, once you have created a good foundation and some decent size take your body slowly through AAS. Use the amount what gives you gains, remember your body adapts to everything you do to it so once your gains stop don’t just think its time for more gear, its not. Its time to improve your training and increase the intensity or increase the over load. The way we build muscle tissue doesn’t change its just your body adapting to the assault you put it under, so think about what the next step is rather than thinking more gear is the answer, how about thinking more weight or more intense!!!

Master building muscle because if you don’t no amount of AAS will help you, all what will happen is the vicious circle of blowing up on gear and blowing back down after when you come off. Master building muscle tissue, learn how your body builds muscle, its not hard to understand how to do this but it takes a heart of a lion to train and put yourself through the process.




Are you constantly over loading your body when you train or increasing the intensity? because that’s what you got to keep on doing. The heavier and more muscular you get the harder it is to keep making the gains like you use to. Many think they are training and eating correctly but all they doing is putting all their hope on AAS to accomplish their goals and only to be let down.
I can’t express it enough this is what this thread is all about if you read between the lines. You need to constantly put your body under stress and constantly overload your body so it has no alternative but to grow bigger, you also need to make sure there is adequate nutrition to supply the growth and support the new muscle building process. You know the amount of calories you need to maintain your lean body mass so if your wanting to gain and support new tissue eat around 300-500 cals more of clean foods, adjust accordingly and also if you feel your more prone to fat gain no matter how many cals over your TDEE then adjust your cardio to suit, there is nothing static about this process it’s a daily swap and change to how you are growing and gaining bf. Ive said it time and time again all the way through this thread I never restrict my cals that much, I adjust my cardio and manipulate my carbs to burn bf as fuel via carb cycling. To build and support a lot of muscle tissue you can’t play the calorie restriction shite what goes on otherwise your body will wipe precious muscle tissue away. That’s very important every lb of muscle tissue is precious don’t waste it away, feed the growth and adjust your cardio to suit how your body burns bf and build muscle tissue.
You want to be big? eat big, train heavy and maintain your muscle tissue at all costs.

Not one to quote myself (feel like a dick doing it) but relative to what Marcus said in his post below I thought it was relevant. AAS is great and can push you to another level but what keeps you there is your nutrition and training philosophy. Way too many people here do far more AAS than they ever should, ever, IMHO. It's just not needed. What's the big mans mantra "grow into your dose." It's perfectly accurate. He'd still be very large with just his TRT dose because of the mindset he's developed when it comes to training and nutrition. If AAS made everyone into huge competitive bodybuilders then they'd be a dime a dozen, right!

So, get all aspects of this lifestyle in place and you'll turn heads even without AAS. I get accused of it all the time by people who just plain lack discipline in their lives and would rather put others down instead of face up to their own faults and insecurities. Add in the correct amount of AAS and you'll turn even more heads.

Very few people seem to...




I added a bit above to Marcus's "rant" as he called. Very well said and on point. I highlighted some crucial elements, IMHO. I'll close by saying this. I've been around this sport a long time and rubbed shoulders with some prominent people in the industry. My point is simply that the advice on this thread is critical to developing as a bodybuilder. You can have all the potential in the world but if you lack the mental discipline you will ultimately fail.

Great post Marcus.

These 2 threads need bumping, understand the principles of what myself and Kel try and get across and you will start growing and exploding out of your skin. Its not easy taking yourself to true failure or beyond but learn how to do it, learn and push your body into this pain zone. What have all the top ten Pro's have in common?????? they train far superior then anyone else and have the ability to consume more food than the normal bodybuilder, now ask yourself what you got to do to achieve your goal and implement it

[ppwc1985]

What is your bicep routine?
do you train to failure?
do you train volume or HIT?
How big are your arms?
Have they grown over the last 12 months?

Hammers in front(heavy) 3/3-5
B.curl 3/6-9. 1 drop
Concentration curls 2/12-15 hard squeeze at top.
Light alt db curl 1/30.
Train to failure as best as I can with no partner.
HIT, but occasionally will do more volume just to change things up.
Arm been a while so my guess would be around 18-19
And yes been growing. Due to job change In 08 things took a nosedive for 5 years. Just got back to it a little over a year ago. But here lately I'm just now starting trt so things been not do good last 3 months. I'm working on getting things good. I have never been able to get them sore except maybe when I was younger. Occasionally they will get a little sore from my back workouts. So what's your thoughts Marcus? And thanks for your time spent here, very informative. And DY was one of my favorites too.

[AD]

I only do 2 exercises for my biceps. Standing db curls and preachers. For my standing curls, i bend forward at the waist like 10degrees so that at the top of the rep my biceps are still in tension. I try to hold the db there at the top of the squeeze for 1 count, then slowly lower. First workset double drop. 8-8-6 reps. 1min rest, second set single drop. 6-6. The rep counts are still high cos i take a big step each drop. Usually the last db i use are tiny ones but the rep count has been so high it gets really painful. 1min rest.

By that time, my arms are almost falling off. Preacher curls 2sets of single drop. Might go to 3 sets if i'm not dead yet.

I think many people will laugh at my routine, its very short. I know. Lol.

[Rusty11]

These 2 threads need bumping, understand the principles of what myself and Kel try and get across and you will start growing and exploding out of your skin. Its not easy taking yourself to true failure or beyond but learn how to do it, learn and push your body into this pain zone. What have all the top ten Pro's have in common?????? they train far superior then anyone else and have the ability to consume more food than the normal bodybuilder, now ask yourself what you got to do to achieve your goal and implement it

It's 6:45 a.m. here. Today's an off day. I just read your repost and have this huge uncontrollable urge to get the hell in my garage and workout. Those are some inspirational words, man. Write a book; I'll buy it. Now, I'm sitting here all worked up, but too sore from yesterday to train. Dammit. Come hell or high water(it's 111 today) I'm hittin' it this afternoon.

Edit: two things-
When you write your book, include a chapter on eating.
Sign my copy.

[kronik420]

trying rest/pause this week, usually do dropsets, just changing it up.. and a different split.. thinking:

Monday - chest/tris
Tuesday - back
Wednesday - off
Thursday - shoulders/bis
Friday - legs

[kelkel]

^^kel, for your t-bar rows and smith bent rows, how much forward to you bend? 45 degrees?

for the shoulder press, do you prefer standing or sitting?

Marcus answered it and the video shows it perfectly. With T-Bars I'm a bit further bent over but my knees are also bent quite a bit. Your knees act as your shock absorbers here to help keep some of the stress off your lower back. Remember too many people hyper-extend (round) their shoulders at the bottom of the movement and tend to do the same with their lower back under the assumption they are getting a better stretch. Not the case. Keep your form and don't F up your back.

Shoulder press I have to sit. Low ceiling in my basement and I've got some nice dents in my HVAC already.

[kelkel]

I only do 2 exercises for my biceps. Standing db curls and preachers. For my standing curls, i bend forward at the waist like 10degrees so that at the top of the rep my biceps are still in tension. I try to hold the db there at the top of the squeeze for 1 count, then slowly lower. First workset double drop. 8-8-6 reps. 1min rest, second set single drop. 6-6. The rep counts are still high cos i take a big step each drop. Usually the last db i use are tiny ones but the rep count has been so high it gets really painful. 1min rest.

By that time, my arms are almost falling off. Preacher curls 2sets of single drop. Might go to 3 sets if i'm not dead yet.

I think many people will laugh at my routine, its very short. I know. Lol.

All I "usually" do for biceps is two exercises. Occasionally a third for a set here and there but quite honestly you should be able to "kill" it with two exercises. The more you can focus and get that great contraction then the less you need to do. Sounds good AD.

[Hazard]

Marcus answered it and the video shows it perfectly. With T-Bars I'm a bit further bent over but my knees are also bent quite a bit. Your knees act as your shock absorbers here to help keep some of the stress off your lower back. Remember too many people hyper-extend (round) their shoulders at the bottom of the movement and tend to do the same with their lower back under the assumption they are getting a better stretch. Not the case. Keep your form and don't F up your back.

Shoulder press I have to sit. Low ceiling in my basement and I've got some nice dents in my HVAC already.

I love the under grip rows. Stance is about the same.

For presses I only use dumbells. I don't like straight bars..... I also only do them sitting. I have low ceilings in the basement too lol

[kelkel]

I haven't done "reverse" grip rows in a while but may have to give them a go again soon. Always looking for something new for a different feel. My equipment is so limited I have to create exercises with what I have. Luckily I respond well to the same old stuff. Don't think my arm routine has changed much in a year but as long as it's working that's all that matters!

[Hazard]

It's taken my quite some time to figure out a split that works well for me and this is what I settled on for the last 2 years..... Minus this time I've been off.

Chest/bi
Legs
Back/tri
Delts/traps

I always felt good doing a push/pull. I hated doing chest and using tri's in the movement and then doing tri's right after. When I split my pushes and pulls - my arms exploded

[Hazard]

I haven't done "reverse" grip rows in a while but may have to give them a go again soon. Always looking for something new for a different feel. My equipment is so limited I have to create exercises with what I have. Luckily I respond well to the same old stuff. Don't think my arm routine has changed much in a year but as long as it's working that's all that matters!

I'm gunna pm you when I have time. I have a full gym almost in my basement. It's a true dungeon man...... You'd love it. I'm actually moving all my equipment out to the garage when I get it clear. Then I can do lunges down my driveway

[kelkel]

Is that a Monday - Friday routine with Wednesday off?

[kelkel]

I'm gunna pm you when I have time. I have a full gym almost in my basement. It's a true dungeon man...... You'd love it. I'm actually moving all my equipment out to the garage when I get it clear. Then I can do lunges down my driveway

Oh that will scare the neighbors.....

[Back In Black]

Marcus how long have you been running HGH and do you cycle it?

Kel, are you an HGH user at all?

If you get chance can you take a peek at post 3 here

http://forums.steroid.com/nutrition-...g-my-play.html

See if there's anything obvious I'm missing? A HIT approach is still very much new to me.

[kelkel]

Nope. Never have. Can't due to my pituitary tumor. I'd love to try it but there's a chance it could make the tumor grow. I have started running Sermorelin though and so far like it.