**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Hazard]

Is that a Monday - Friday routine with Wednesday off?

Yes sir

[Hazard]

Once I get back I wanna try two a days since I have the time now. I'm going to eat, sleep, and breathe bodybuilding

[kelkel]

trying rest/pause this week, usually do dropsets, just changing it up.. and a different split.. thinking:

Monday - chest/tris
Tuesday - back
Wednesday - off
Thursday - shoulders/bis
Friday - legs

Out of all of those what is your weakest body part? You know where I'm going with this?

[kelkel]

Once I get back I wanna try two a days since I have the time now. I'm going to eat, sleep, and breathe bodybuilding

I've tried that pre-contest before but other than that I never really liked it. Moving over to HIT years ago (before it was popular) I was able to squeeze in more body parts in one workout and free up the rest of the day for me. Plus, back then I was driving to a gym making it more difficult and time consuming. Now at home it could be easier but kids would kill that real quick!

[Hazard]

I've tried that pre-contest before but other than that I never really liked it. Moving over to HIT years ago (before it was popular) I was able to squeeze in more body parts in one workout and free up the rest of the day for me. Plus, back then I was driving to a gym making it more difficult and time consuming. Now at home it could be easier but kids would kill that real quick!

Yup! My daughter is why I've taken off from the lifestyle. It's tough......

I've got a lot more time now so I'm thinking a heavy intense session in the afternoon when I have a spotter - I can atleast hit a struggling part twice a week

[Hazard]

Chest is my problem area. My arms and legs grow like weeds.....my delts are capped..... Traps look good...... But my damn chest man......

I've tried a lot of different stuff for it. Here's what seemed to work best to stimulate growth.....

Dumbell press flat 3x10

Dumbell press incline or decline 3x10

Dumbell flys 3x10-12

Cable flys 3x12

I'd sometimes use hammer strength presses when I'm at a gym but at home it's dumbells or barbells. I also have a press machine that does various angles but I swear it does nothing for me. I like the feel I get with dumbells.... Barbells kill my shoulder.

Usually by the end of my workout my chest is dead. I can't push anything heavy but I suppose I could further exhaust with negative reps.....

[marcus300]

Hammers in front(heavy) 3/3-5
B.curl 3/6-9. 1 drop
Concentration curls 2/12-15 hard squeeze at top.
Light alt db curl 1/30.
Train to failure as best as I can with no partner.
HIT, but occasionally will do more volume just to change things up.
Arm been a while so my guess would be around 18-19
And yes been growing. Due to job change In 08 things took a nosedive for 5 years. Just got back to it a little over a year ago. But here lately I'm just now starting trt so things been not do good last 3 months. I'm working on getting things good. I have never been able to get them sore except maybe when I was younger. Occasionally they will get a little sore from my back workouts. So what's your thoughts Marcus? And thanks for your time spent here, very informative. And DY was one of my favorites too.

If your arms are growing I cant see the problem and if they are 18-19" then they are not small arms. If anything I would drop your arm movements down to two basic straight bar curls and incline db curls - both done to complete failure and I mean failure not were you have had enough because the pain is to much I mean complete failure, then implement 2 dropsets each to failure again. That should shock your arms in new growth imho.

[marcus300]

Marcus how long have you been running HGH and do you cycle it?

Kel, are you an HGH user at all?

If you get chance can you take a peek at post 3 here

http://forums.steroid.com/nutrition-...g-my-play.html

See if there's anything obvious I'm missing? A HIT approach is still very much new to me.

Ive used it on and off since I was around 26 yrs old, I normally use it low dose off cycle around 4 ius then when I cycle I would up the dose to around 6-8ius. Ive been as high as 15ius daily when I was doing short burst cycle. I don't use it all the time but when I do I try my best to do at least 6 moths at it. In my early day when I was bulking and trying to gain as much muscle tissue as possible I use it straight for around 3 years which completely transformed my whole body into a pro look. I couldn't believe the changes in me but I was also using a lot of aas but the gains never left me. I could get over any sticking easy with high dose hgh and aas, remarkable stuff if you know how to use it and plan the cycles right, half the guys who use gnerics look like crap and have no idea what real hgh does to someone but who cares ive tried to tell them but they never listen lol....

I'll take a look at your link mate

[Back In Black]

Ive used it on and off since I was around 26 yrs old, I normally use it low dose off cycle around 4 ius then when I cycle I would up the dose to around 6-8ius. Ive been as high as 15ius daily when I was doing short burst cycle. I don't use it all the time but when I do I try my best to do at least 6 moths at it. In my early day when I was bulking and trying to gain as much muscle tissue as possible I use it straight for around 3 years which completely transformed my whole body into a pro look. I couldn't believe the changes in me but I was also using a lot of aas but the gains never left me. I could get over any sticking easy with high dose hgh and aas, remarkable stuff if you know how to use it and plan the cycles right, half the guys who use gnerics look like crap and have no idea what real hgh does to someone but who cares ive tried to tell them but they never listen lol....

I'll take a look at your link mate

I've noticed people don't listen

I guess you've spent a fair a,Lunt on HGH in your time then, but in your case it's obviously not been wasted. I'd never get my Mrs to support AAS use I don't think, I shouldn't imagine HGH would be any different. I will have to live vicariously through those that do it right

[marcus300]

I've noticed people don't listen

I guess you've spent a fair a,Lunt on HGH in your time then, but in your case it's obviously not been wasted. I'd never get my Mrs to support AAS use I don't think, I shouldn't imagine HGH would be any different. I will have to live vicariously through those that do it right

I was lucky when I was younger to be able to support my long term hgh use, I use to obtain it through a friends pharmacy in Spain but it was expensive but when I was younger nothing was going to stop me on my journey to become big. HGH is a slow process and its expensive but the magic occurs when you use it with AAS then magical things happen but I did have to use around 6-8ius before muscle size started to appear, anything under that was just fat loss and condidition but when I found the sweet spot for me the gains tripled on cycle and I couldn't believe the mirror every time I looked in it. I don't use hgh like I use to these days its maintenance dose 4 ius and sometimes on cycle 6 ius but never for muscle building but trying to keep the fat off while maintaining my size. I hate losing muscle tissue as you can tell if you read through this thread, its something what I hate doing because ive been there so many times dieting down at the cost of precious tissue and I think to myself what the fuk am I doing, ive just been through hell and back to obtain that tissue over the last 12-18months. So now my main concern is preserve muscle tissue, maintain it and try my best to get rid of some bf.

[DCI]

Cool posts lads really interesting on your early days marcus.

[kronik420]

Out of all of those what is your weakest body part? You know where I'm going with this?

biceps..

[kelkel]

biceps..

Good structure then. I was waiting to hear legs and was going to ask why they're at the end of the week!

[kronik420]

Good structure then. I was waiting to hear legs and was going to ask why they're at the end of the week!

now that i think of it, maybe calves too, also some more thickness to my back would be nice..

[kelkel]

Ive used it on and off since I was around 26 yrs old, I normally use it low dose off cycle around 4 ius then when I cycle I would up the dose to around 6-8ius. Ive been as high as 15ius daily when I was doing short burst cycle. I don't use it all the time but when I do I try my best to do at least 6 moths at it. In my early day when I was bulking and trying to gain as much muscle tissue as possible I use it straight for around 3 years which completely transformed my whole body into a pro look. I couldn't believe the changes in me but I was also using a lot of aas but the gains never left me. I could get over any sticking easy with high dose hgh and aas, remarkable stuff if you know how to use it and plan the cycles right, half the guys who use gnerics look like crap and have no idea what real hgh does to someone but who cares ive tried to tell them but they never listen lol....

I'll take a look at your link mate

Now this is what kills me. I'd love to try it. But I don't want brain surgery cause I tried it. WTF.

[marcus300]

I've noticed people don't listen

I guess you've spent a fair a,Lunt on HGH in your time then, but in your case it's obviously not been wasted. I'd never get my Mrs to support AAS use I don't think, I shouldn't imagine HGH would be any different. I will have to live vicariously through those that do it right

Do you not use aas at all BIB?

[kelkel]

now that i think of it, maybe calves too, also some more thickness to my back would be nice..

Do your calves first on leg day and maybe throw in another day early in the week for them. You know what to do for back.

[kelkel]

Chest is my problem area. My arms and legs grow like weeds.....my delts are capped..... Traps look good...... But my damn chest man......

I've tried a lot of different stuff for it. Here's what seemed to work best to stimulate growth.....

Dumbell press flat 3x10



Dumbell press incline or decline 3x10

Dumbell flys 3x10-12

Cable flys 3x12

I'd sometimes use hammer strength presses when I'm at a gym but at home it's dumbells or barbells. I also have a press machine that does various angles but I swear it does nothing for me. I like the feel I get with dumbells.... Barbells kill my shoulder.

Usually by the end of my workout my chest is dead. I can't push anything heavy but I suppose I could further exhaust with negative reps.....

Sounds like you may be shoulder dominant when you train chest? Have you tried pre-exhaust techniques to try and stimulate more growth and actually fatigue the chest first, instead of shoulders and triceps?

[kronik420]

Do your calves first on leg day and maybe throw in another day early in the week for them. You know what to do for back.

calf idea sounds good thanks, and yea i think so back routine usually consists of:

dead lifts, bent over rows (video beneath), close grip pull ups, lat pull downs

[kelkel]

Just say no to that style row and go with the Yates style video Marcus posted above. When it comes to deadlifts they are great but IMHO are not needed every workout. Cycle them in your work outs and occasionally do them at the end of your back routine as well. It's a completely different (good) feel when done last. It really finishes off a good back workout.

[kronik420]

Just say no to that style row and go with the Yates style video Marcus posted above. When it comes to deadlifts they are great but IMHO are not needed every workout. Cycle them in your work outs and occasionally do them at the end of your back routine as well. It's a completely different (good) feel when done last. It really finishes off a good back workout.

watching the blood and guts back routine atm, they do deads as the last exercise too, will try this tomorrow (since its back day)

thanks kel

[kronik420]

what do you guys think about dorians dead lift technique with only lowering the bar to around your shins.. i usually set the bar down back to the floor after each rep ?? much difference?

[kronik420]

anyways will check back tomorrow

gotta go to sleep so i can: wake up, eat, and go to the gym

[RaginCajun]

what do you guys think about dorians dead lift technique with only lowering the bar to around your shins.. i usually set the bar down back to the floor after each rep ?? much difference?

try it, it makes me 'feel' the weight more. also helps with balance, which mine sucks!

[marcus300]

Now this is what kills me. I'd love to try it. But I don't want brain surgery cause I tried it. WTF.

You don't need it mate, your a freak of nature and absolutely credit to yourself and work ethic to have the size and condition you maintain.

[marcus300]

[QUOTE]

calf idea sounds good thanks, and yea i think so back routine usually consists of:

dead lifts, bent over rows (video beneath), close grip pull ups, lat pull downs

Those are fuking horrible, don't ever do rows like that or you will end up looking like him doing them...

what do you guys think about dorians dead lift technique with only lowering the bar to around your shins.. i usually set the bar down back to the floor after each rep ?? much difference?

When your doing deads do them DY style never go to the floor, your working your back and keeping the tension on the lover back once you unlock and round your back your prone to injury and tension has gone from your lower back onto your legs and glutes....

check out this video from 21.30

[Back In Black]

Do you not use aas at all BIB?

Not that she knows about

I can get away with a certain amount I suspect, anything over 210lbs and I think she would really start asking questions. Tbh she could barely tell a difference between my before and after photos on the recent competition so who knows what I could get away with.

[marcus300]

Not that she knows about

I can get away with a certain amount I suspect, anything over 210lbs and I think she would really start asking questions. Tbh she could barely tell a difference between my before and after photos on the recent competition so who knows what I could get away with.

If you did a cycle would you have to tell her? why would she not like you using? whats the issue with her and aas?

[DCI]

what do you guys think about dorians dead lift technique with only lowering the bar to around your shins.. i usually set the bar down back to the floor after each rep ?? much difference?

Its the best burn ever and will thivken your back and what said re cycling them in and out is the way to i love deads doing the above technique

[Hazard]

I don't train tris with chest..... So I've never pure exhausted them first.

[Back In Black]

If you did a cycle would you have to tell her? why would she not like you using? whats the issue with her and aas?

I did an 8 week prop cycle mid March to mid May, she didn't notice. (First one to admit I could have made that progress naturally but I lost ALOT of time over the last year or 2). And I have done a couple of cycles years ago.

She has a bit of an issue with drugs in general, she had a scary experience when she was younger with recreationally so that's why she doesn't approve of them. But I've never broached the subject of AAS with her. She has asked me before if I did them, I told her the truth I didn't. At the time. She is an educated woman, perhaps if I sat her down and told her I wanted to and explained the pro's and cons she would be ok with running a cycle to see how it goes. Maybe.

[kelkel]

May just be better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission in this case......

[kelkel]

I don't train tris with chest..... So I've never pure exhausted them first.

No, I mean pre-exhaust your chest with isolation movements first in your routine so that when you hit a compound movement it's the chest that gives out first, not delts-tri's. Either individually done or in superset fashion, ie: heavy flyes immediately to incline bench with no rest between. Obviously it hurts the amount of weight your pushing but the goal is to fatigue the "target" muscle and spur growth!

[marcus300]

I did an 8 week prop cycle mid March to mid May, she didn't notice. (First one to admit I could have made that progress naturally but I lost ALOT of time over the last year or 2). And I have done a couple of cycles years ago.

She has a bit of an issue with drugs in general, she had a scary experience when she was younger with recreationally so that's why she doesn't approve of them. But I've never broached the subject of AAS with her. She has asked me before if I did them, I told her the truth I didn't. At the time. She is an educated woman, perhaps if I sat her down and told her I wanted to and explained the pro's and cons she would be ok with running a cycle to see how it goes. Maybe.

Maybe just not tell her if it would cause problems but you know your wife

[Back In Black]

May just be better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission in this case......

Maybe just not tell her if it would cause problems but you know your wife

I think it would depend how far I wanted to go tbh. I will get away with another 15lbs I reckon although I'm not sure she takes any notice of the way I look anymore anyway

[Hazard]

No, I mean pre-exhaust your chest with isolation movements first in your routine so that when you hit a compound movement it's the chest that gives out first, not delts-tri's. Either individually done or in superset fashion, ie: heavy flyes immediately to incline bench with no rest between. Obviously it hurts the amount of weight your pushing but the goal is to fatigue the "target" muscle and spur growth!

This will be my new routine...... I'll try it and see how I respond

[Hazard]

May just be better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission in this case......

Lmfao yup.......

[Narkissos]

Marcus man... That avvy is insane :-)

[marcus300]

Marcus man... That avvy is insane :-)

Thanks Nark, its my latest tattoo


Nice to see you around

[DCI]

I hear its all photoshop the new pic amazing what they can do now lol.

Chest tonight, can't wait itching here to go will report back later