**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[almostgone]

Hi guys did shoulders and traps the day.

Seated db side raises 1 working 1 drop

Standing db side raises 1 working 1 drop a side

Seated db press 1 working 1 drop

Rev db fly 1 working 1 drop

Rev fly cable 3 sets

BB shrugs 3 heavy sets

Behind back BB shrugs 1 working DD

Done.
It was a good session fellas.

Nice, Clarky! Drinking a shake now and going for a redo of my last lift.

[NACH3]

Nice, Clarky! Drinking a shake now and going for a redo of my last lift.

AG, what are you working today? Redo... Was that delts? Tear it up my man!!!

Also, when you do delts(side laterals/front raises/rear lateral raises?) do you ever do these in a tri set fashion? I was thinking about trying it(maybe 2w but will really have to feel the weight out)... Or do you think it'd be better in a pullback(S/S - tri set fashion)? Just curious

[almostgone]

AG, what are you working today? Redo... Was that delts? Tear it up my man!!!

Also, when you do delts(side laterals/front raises/rear lateral raises?) do you ever do these in a tri set fashion? I was thinking about trying it(maybe 2w but will really have to feel the weight out)... Or do you think it'd be better in a pullback(S/S - tri set fashion)? Just curious

I'm planning to hit delts and traps or I may save them for.tomorrow and do another all over upper body lift just to break a sweat and get ready to start pushing a little harder. Wrapping my quad in an ace bandage for support right now.
I prefer to keep the exercises separate, because I can focus on each muscle head more intensely.
Don't have anything against the tri-set concept you posted, but I couldn't go to failure on anteriors, medials, and posteriors without shortchanging something. I have a feeling I would lose focus before the task was completed.

[almostgone]

OK, off to the shop to get something done before I get ready for work. Will see what's on the agenda when I get there.

[NACH3]

I'm planning to hit delts and traps or I may save them for.tomorrow and do another all over upper body lift just to break a sweat and get ready to start pushing a little harder. Wrapping my quad in an ace bandage for support right now.
I prefer to keep the exercises separate, because I can focus on each muscle head more intensely.
Don't have anything against the tri-set concept you posted, but I couldn't go to failure on anteriors, medials, and posteriors without shortchanging something. I have a feeling I would lose focus before the task was completed.

Great point! I started to think of how that would surely shortchange one or two ex's - thx for the input as always big guy!

[Bodacious]

Hey fellas!!! Hope everything and everyone is doing great. Had a little lift off fundraiser today. That's why I have been missing in action. Never done anything like that before was was nervous because of my back issues.But a good friend asked me to do it because they didnt have many people at all.Didn't really push it because I usually never train the lifts. Have before just havent since I been on this addicting HIT...Thanks to everyone in here lol.. It was all for fun and a good cause though. Now rest day tomorrow and time to get my ass back to the gym and back on my diet. O by the way...

I just down a huge ass burger from Bad Daddys, place is freaking amazing. Now watching football.

Everyone have a good night will catch up tomorrow.

[kelkel]

I really REALLY want a leg press or hack squat in m gym at home.

I had this for years and it's great:

Comfort1st - Yukon Angled Vertical Leg Press Machine ALP-150

It doesn't take up the space a 45 sled would and you don't need as much weight. Arguably just a little more than you normally squat with. Absolutely no regrets buying this item. Never, ever buy a top loading vertical press.

[kelkel]

Encore for an hour.....awesome

I'm not a country music guy at all but some of the mainstream stuff is good. That said, one of my favorite songs is "The Dance" by Garth. Great song.

[Sfla80]

I'm not a country music guy at all but some of the mainstream stuff is good. That said, one of my favorite songs is "The Dance" by Garth. Great song.

We are just getting out.

He performed that and it was amazing kel.

Best concert I have ever seen. Man pits on a great show. Especially at his age and for as long as he's been doing it.

[NACH3]

We are just getting out.

He performed that and it was amazing kel.

Best concert I have ever seen. Man pits on a great show. Especially at his age and for as long as he's been doing it.

Shameless?? Sounds like he's saying ' I'm shaviiiing' lol - great song too!

Glad you had a good time Sfla!

[novastepp]

I had this for years and it's great: Comfort1st - Yukon Angled Vertical Leg Press Machine ALP-150 It doesn't take up the space a 45 sled would and you don't need as much weight. Arguably just a little more than you normally squat with. Absolutely no regrets buying this item. Never, ever buy a top loading vertical press.

Thanks for mentioning that again, Kel. I'm overthinking the part where I'd have to put it together, but with my back issues I really need to take the plunge and get it.

[almostgone]

I had this for years and it's great:

Comfort1st - Yukon Angled Vertical Leg Press Machine ALP-150

It doesn't take up the space a 45 sled would and you don't need as much weight. Arguably just a little more than you normally squat with. Absolutely no regrets buying this item. Never, ever buy a top loading vertical press.

I never could figure out how why someone would even think to design it that way?

[almostgone]

Thanks for mentioning that again, Kel. I'm overthinking the part where I'd have to put it together, but with my back issues I really need to take the plunge and get it.

Assembly is pretty straight up. I prefer to loosely bolt my equipment together when it is a fastener that is accessible, make sure everything looks relatively square, and then go back and lock everything down. After I do that, I go back and check all the fasteners again.
Most equipment manufacturers use Nylok nuts, so once you lock everything down it stays locked down (although I periodically go back and spot check my equipment fasteners, any cables, cable clamps, etc.
My leg press is the same brand as Kel's, and I've had zero equipment problems. I have the 45° press, but either one would serve you well. Usually you can pick up Oly plates on CL, garage sales, etc. fairly cheap.
Defo go with the side loading posts vs.the kind that is top loading. Who wants to press the plates overhead to load it, put everything you have into killing your legs, and then have to fight with stripping the plates back off?

[clarky.]

Sfla, Bio, Nach, BG, Nice sessions there guys.

[NACH3]

Morning all

Bis/& tris are damn sore! Resting today or back... I don't want to shortchange my back after bis but it may make my back work harder... We'll see and play it by ear Ive done 3on so we shall see!

Have a great Sunday everyone!

[kelkel]

Thanks for mentioning that again, Kel. I'm overthinking the part where I'd have to put it together, but with my back issues I really need to take the plunge and get it.

Simply the fact that you only need half the plates that you would on a 45 sled makes if well worthwhile to me. Especially training alone.

[Bio-Active]

First lift 2 feel sets of 12 and then 2 working sets with 5-8 negs after fail

Hammer strength incline press

Flat bench 2 working sets with forced negs

Db flies

Cable crossovers

No cardio today done and going to watch football

[NACH3]

Simply the fact that you only need half the plates that you would on a 45 sled makes if well worthwhile to me. Especially training alone.

Hey Kel,

My gym actually doesn't have a vertical leg press anymore... But would you think using a smith machine(back on ground/pad) and use that as a variation?! Or just stick to a 45 sled? Thx

[kelkel]

Hey Kel,

My gym actually doesn't have a vertical leg press anymore... But would you think using a smith machine(back on ground/pad) and use that as a variation?! Or just stick to a 45 sled? Thx

Off the floor, hell no. Stick to the sled.

[BG]

OK guys, got a few things.........

So I have been having issues with my BP after my TB shots. I was doing 5mgs a shot, but afterwards my face would get red and I would hardly be able to think. I was going to my doctor for predisone so I decided to take a shot before I went in to see whats up. I warned my doctor first, she takes and said good job,152/100. Im not sure if TB has done that to others but Im done with it.

I got my predisone, Ive been doing RC exercises then icing. I think no upper body at all this week and just keep going on with some cardio and abs.

Last but not least, I just realized Im only taking 250mgs of deca . All this time I thought 500mgs, I went through my bag and had a bunch more amps then I should. I started thinking and for some reason Im only taking a half ml per shot, pretty dumb.

Question........I have some tren -e coming, do you guys think it would be a good idea to start front loading with some acetate I have? How long after starting the tren-e would you stop? Im just worried about hormone levels being unstable and getting acne with this idea. Ive front load cycles with prop many times, but never my secondary compound with the faster acting version.

Thanks

[Bio-Active]

OK guys, got a few things......... So I have been having issues with my BP after my TB shots. I was doing 5mgs a shot, but afterwards my face would get red and I would hardly be able to think. I was going to my doctor for predisone so I decided to take a shot before I went in to see whats up. I warned my doctor first, she takes and said good job,152/100. Im not sure if TB has done that to others but Im done with it. I got my predisone, Ive been doing RC exercises then icing. I think no upper body at all this week and just keep going on with some cardio and abs. Last but not least, I just realized Im only taking 250mgs of deca. All this time I thought 500mgs, I went through my bag and had a bunch more amps then I should. I started thinking and for some reason Im only taking a half ml per shot, pretty dumb. Question........I have some tren-e coming, do you guys think it would be a good idea to start front loading with some acetate I have? How long after starting the tren-e would you stop? Im just worried about hormone levels being unstable and getting acne with this idea. Ive front load cycles with prop many times, but never my secondary compound with the faster acting version. Thanks

I'll tell you this. I can only handle tren for 8 weeks max regardless of ace or e.

[NACH3]

OK guys, got a few things.........

So I have been having issues with my BP after my TB shots. I was doing 5mgs a shot, but afterwards my face would get red and I would hardly be able to think. I was going to my doctor for predisone so I decided to take a shot before I went in to see whats up. I warned my doctor first, she takes and said good job,152/100. Im not sure if TB has done that to others but Im done with it.

I got my predisone, Ive been doing RC exercises then icing. I think no upper body at all this week and just keep going on with some cardio and abs.

Last but not least, I just realized Im only taking 250mgs of deca . All this time I thought 500mgs, I went through my bag and had a bunch more amps then I should. I started thinking and for some reason Im only taking a half ml per shot, pretty dumb.

Question........I have some tren -e coming, do you guys think it would be a good idea to start front loading with some acetate I have? How long after starting the tren-e would you stop? Im just worried about hormone levels being unstable and getting acne with this idea. Ive front load cycles with prop many times, but never my secondary compound with the faster acting version.

Thanks

Hey BG - hope you BP gets straight after dropping it(makes sense from what your describing that it is elevating it) you'll see...

If you don't have the tren e I'd wait on starting unless you know it'll be in a couple days or something... But just my opinion(as it seems our bodies react very similar)... I've not done tren e but long all long esters seem to give me acne whereas short esters I'm clear... Plus I pin ed w/ace... If I were you I'd frontload it for 4 wks(I don't know how much you plan on running but I'd run at least 250+(this is you not me lol) on top of your ethenate dose(im assuming this isn't a huge blast your doing)? You could go lower too to burn fat better(I think Kel said even at 150ish w/test say 750 - just melts fat)
Example
500 tren e
I'd do 300tren a - assuming I could handle that(but Ive only ran it once and I'm sticking to ace when I run it) - but 4wks of that snd ethanate then the ethenate kicking.... Sounds good!

[Hazard]

I like both tren e and tren a but I find that I respond better to tren a. After many runs with both in just deciding on short high dose bursts.

[NACH3]

I like both tren e and tren a but I find that I respond better to tren a. After many runs with both in just deciding on short high dose bursts.

^^^ that's kinda what I wasn't sure of if that is the case... haha

But I just respond better to short esters period(gains, even the feeling is different to me, stronger, no acne) although once I level out w/long esters I'll clear up but not as well -

[GirlyGymRat]

First day back to gym on regular schedule. It's not going to be pretty. I hope I don't hurt anything. LoL

[BG]

Hey BG - hope you BP gets straight after dropping it(makes sense from what your describing that it is elevating it) you'll see...

If you don't have the tren e I'd wait on starting unless you know it'll be in a couple days or something... But just my opinion(as it seems our bodies react very similar)... I've not done tren e but long all long esters seem to give me acne whereas short esters I'm clear... Plus I pin ed w/ace... If I were you I'd frontload it for 4 wks(I don't know how much you plan on running but I'd run at least 250+(this is you not me lol) on top of your ethenate dose(im assuming this isn't a huge blast your doing)? You could go lower too to burn fat better(I think Kel said even at 150ish w/test say 750 - just melts fat)
Example
500 tren e
I'd do 300tren a - assuming I could handle that(but Ive only ran it once and I'm sticking to ace when I run it) - but 4wks of that snd ethanate then the ethenate kicking.... Sounds good!

Im just looking to get it going faster. Ill have the trene in a week, but my training partner is on and will be back from holiday and its go time, so I would like it to be moving as fast as posible. But like you, I get acne when levels are un stable and I dont really want to get my hormones all crazy. I think Im going to try it. Very low dose eod, I was thinking for 4 weeks also. Im going to run the tren-e for 12 weeks. Thanks for the reply

[BG]

First day back to gym on regular schedule. It's not going to be pretty. I hope I don't hurt anything. LoL

Good luck, back in the game.

[Hazard]

Im just looking to get it going faster. Ill have the trene in a week, but my training partner is on and will be back from holiday and its go time, so I would like it to be moving as fast as posible. But like you, I get acne when levels are un stable and I dont really want to get my hormones all crazy. I think Im going to try it. Very low dose eod, I was thinking for 4 weeks also. Im going to run the tren-e for 12 weeks. Thanks for the reply

Tren e doesn't seem to make me as angry as tren a. So that may be a plus for you lol. You can also front load the tren e. Bring the blood levels up quicker

[Sfla80]

Tren e doesn't seem to make me as angry as tren a. So that may be a plus for you lol. You can also front load the tren e. Bring the blood levels up quicker

Would think this is the better way to go....

I'm starting a frontload of just test this week. And from what Marcus explained just double the half life and ur blood levels will be up in a week

[NACH3]

Tren e doesn't seem to make me as angry as tren a. So that may be a plus for you lol. You can also front load the tren e. Bring the blood levels up quicker

I was also thinking that... It could cause some more fluctuation depending(on dose) but I have frontloaded long esters before and I do like it(just not the acne and it's definitely the long esters for me - as soon as I made the jump to trt it was when I noticed b/c I only ran short esters prior... I know some use prop(it's just more pinning - 30-35 EOD)?

^^ like Sfla just said! Double the dose first wk - some people just react way different... And I even feel the difference between short and long esters(sleep is shorter, NRG seems higher to me)

[Bio-Active]

Im just looking to get it going faster. Ill have the trene in a week, but my training partner is on and will be back from holiday and its go time, so I would like it to be moving as fast as posible. But like you, I get acne when levels are un stable and I dont really want to get my hormones all crazy. I think Im going to try it. Very low dose eod, I was thinking for 4 weeks also. Im going to run the tren-e for 12 weeks. Thanks for the reply

have you tried pinning ace ed to keep the levels steady? I guess I am lucky there is only one compound that gives me acne and it's not tren

[Sfla80]

Tren gives me the "boils" ( not sure another word for it. Big ass acne...doesnt pop and stays for a week) but only when I come off.

[BG]

Tren e doesn't seem to make me as angry as tren a. So that may be a plus for you lol. You can also front load the tren e. Bring the blood levels up quicker

Exactly what Im thinking, Im much less aggressive with E. Well we see

[BG]

have you tried pinning ace ed to keep the levels steady? I guess I am lucky there is only one compound that gives me acne and it's not tren

No. No way Im pinning that much, I start missing and then the sides begin.

[BG]

Tren gives me the "boils" ( not sure another word for it. Big ass acne...doesnt pop and stays for a week) but only when I come off.

I get it on the back of my head, hurts like hell........

[kelkel]

Tren gives me the "boils" ( not sure another word for it. Big ass acne...doesnt pop and stays for a week) but only when I come off.

Ewww. Just eww.

[Viking13]

Tren gives me the "boils" ( not sure another word for it. Big ass acne...doesnt pop and stays for a week) but only when I come off.

It's cystic acne, that's the actual name for it. I get them in an around my shoulders when my free test is too high. Damn they hurt

[GirlyGymRat]

Good luck, back in the game.

And it felt good. I was in there for hour and half. I missed play list. I missed the chic who throws her crap all over the floor (not really lol). I will be sore later tonight.

Worked every major muscle group. Did a few squats with the Olympic bar only. I had a disc slip out of position last week so I wanted to just get a feel and squats were never a natural movement for me anyway.

Glad to be back! Thx!

[Sfla80]

It's cystic acne, that's the actual name for it. I get them in an around my shoulders when my free test is too high. Damn they hurt

Cystic. ...I knew that just couldn't remember.

They hurt and are a pain. I actually get them in odd places. Legs back abs

[Bio-Active]

Cystic. ...I knew that just couldn't remember.

They hurt and are a pain. I actually get them in odd places. Legs back abs

I hate those they take forever to go away unless you lance them