**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[NACH3]

BG, I know you are probably under constant deadlines @ work, like myself. One thing that I've noticed (especially when on cycle or a blast), is that I tend to attack my food and scarf it down vs. taking time to properly chew my food.
I don't know if it will help you or not, but make sure you're chewing your food well. If I am in a rush or anabolically enhanced, I tend to attack my food and devour it as fast as possible. It really causes me pain and grief later on.
Just a thought. Hope.you get right ASAP, buddy!

Interesting, AG... I tend to do the same, now that I've thought about it(or just to get it down for more forcing later)

[kelkel]

If I'm not more careful, I will look more like this in a month:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW7n2UP60bk

Java I'm at a loss as to why you're eating like this? What's your goal?

[novastepp]

Chest and shoulder are smoked.

Decline Hammer strength: 2 sets: 8 reps, then 5 reps...asked a guy to help spot me on the second set, and he sucked...so much so that I only got 1 assisted rep... but was able to help with negatives and I did 3 after my second set.

Incline DB press: 2 sets: 7 reps then 5 reps. Drop for 3. Drop for 3. Held failed reps as long as possible. I was coughing after this.

Pec Fly: 3 sets. Slow and burning for 12, 10, 7 reps.

Seated lat raises: 1 set for 7 with a drop for 4. Second set, using drop weight, 7 again, then a drop for 5.

Cable lat raises behind back: 1 set for 6 on each side...I had nothing left and this was teh lightest weight available.

Seated shoulder raise machine. I just wanted to do light weight for a burn out set and I got to 16 and it was burning so bad I think tears were rolling down my face. Wish I had done these earlier when I had some strength.

Amazing workout and glad I got back to HIT. My upper body is shaking. Funny thing is, its so windy here, I had trouble opening my car door because my chest was so gassed, had to use my body.

Off to the ortho/chiropractor for an eval and adjustment. Feeling better and this is going to help greatly.

Hope everyone has a great day and a great weekend.

[Bio-Active]

Chest and shoulder are smoked. Decline Hammer strength: 2 sets: 8 reps, then 5 reps...asked a guy to help spot me on the second set, and he sucked...so much so that I only got 1 assisted rep... but was able to help with negatives and I did 3 after my second set. Incline DB press: 2 sets: 7 reps then 5 reps. Drop for 3. Drop for 3. Held failed reps as long as possible. I was coughing after this. Pec Fly: 3 sets. Slow and burning for 12, 10, 7 reps. Seated lat raises: 1 set for 7 with a drop for 4. Second set, using drop weight, 7 again, then a drop for 5. Cable lat raises behind back: 1 set for 6 on each side...I had nothing left and this was teh lightest weight available. Seated shoulder raise machine. I just wanted to do light weight for a burn out set and I got to 16 and it was burning so bad I think tears were rolling down my face. Wish I had done these earlier when I had some strength. Amazing workout and glad I got back to HIT. My upper body is shaking. Funny thing is, its so windy here, I had trouble opening my car door because my chest was so gassed, had to use my body. Off to the ortho/chiropractor for an eval and adjustment. Feeling better and this is going to help greatly. Hope everyone has a great day and a great weekend.

nice work brother... I feel your pain training a spotter isn't easy

[BG]

Every try... (I'm sure u have) but using NPP instead?

I've used it before, years ago. I'm running reg decade right now with it, I was supposed to stop the acetate when the enathate kicked in but I didn't. I'm not good with eod shots. I miss and end up with acne. Maybe next time though, I have to do something different.

[BG]

I called a doctor friend and asked him this question... It's a mixed bag. The manufacturer advises not using it for more than about 2 months and no more than twice per day. On the other side he (doc) has known of some patients who have taken it for years. In that case you should get you liver enzymes checked periodically to make sure you're not running into any issues.

I also pulled the following for you:

Over time, using Zantac can increase the possibility of suffering from pneumonia. Pneumonia symptoms include chest pain, shortness of breath, fever and coughing up colored mucous, according to the Drugs website. Pneumonia is one of the lung infections that long-term use of Zantac can produce. GERD and other reflux conditions can lead to aspiration of food (inhalation), which can lead to such serious lung infections.

When Zantac was used more than a year, a few side effects have been reported in a small number of patients using the OTC Zantac 150. Side effects included blood immunoglobulin e (immune response) and eosinophil (white blood cell) count increases, diarrhea, kidney infections, insomnia, gastritis, migraines and cognitive problems, according to the eHealth Me website.

So is it safe long term. By and large yes. Just have to be aware that some long term sides have been reported in a small percentage of users.

Thanks appreciated ; )

[Sfla80]

Shoulders tonight. ..and figure out why my gym has been so busy. There are two LA fitness from me. 2 miles one direction and 2 miles the other.

They are renovating the other...so everyone coming over here :/

Reverse hammer press 3w 1f 1w dd

Leaning dB lateral 1f , 1w 1drop

Underhand ez bar front raise 1f 1w dd

Cable ez bar uprights 2w ddd

Face pulls with small straight bar 2w

Pec/Dec machine to finish.

Someone called out of work last night....my only option was to do a 2 person job myself. And I killed it. But at the same time really messed the knee up. Was never really painful before just a dull pain. Today hurts to walk...vibrating pain shooting through. Hurts to bend. And no time to rest...back on my feet tomorrow for another 13 hrs.

[Bodacious]

Nice sessions guys!!

After ready everything Java eats... I hurried up and ate my food before he found me and ate it for me. How in the hell do you eat that much food??? I to am wondering what your goals are with that amount of cals? Sumo fighter??? lol

Hope everyone has a good Friday guys!! I have just been super super busy these last few weeks. Next week is also going to be a MFer. Still training pretty hard. On week 4 of 6 before I do a pull back week.

[Sfla80]

Nice sessions guys!!

After ready everything Java eats... I hurried up and ate my food before he found me and ate it for me. How in the hell do you eat that much food??? I to am wondering what your goals are with that amount of cals? Sumo fighter??? lol

Hope everyone has a good Friday guys!! I have just been super super busy these last few weeks. Next week is also going to be a MFer. Still training pretty hard. On week 4 of 6 before I do a pull back week.

Ever get your blood work back or did I miss that?

[Hazard]

My legs are beat to shit still..... What a workout lol

Off to work..... Gotta babysit the drunks

[kelkel]

My legs are beat to shit still..... What a workout lol

Off to work..... Gotta babysit the drunks

Stay safe big man!

[Baxter35]

I had the itch to go for a pr on deadlift tonight. Last time I tried was maybe 6 months ago and I hit 575 at the time. After warming my way up to it, 575 went up easy enough I said f it and went to an even 600 and nailed it! I didn't have it in me to go higher but I'm happy with it! I then finished up with a solid back/bi session. I ate well afterwards, but after reading Java's food intake I'm feeling a little anorexic.

[Java Man]

Java I'm at a loss as to why you're eating like this? What's your goal?

Honestly I just want to get back to a solid 240 then cut down to about 225 or so. That would put me at about 15% BF. From there I will likely just maintain. I never really got back to where I was after my bout with pancreatitis. In all honesty I thought I was eating half the amount of calories as I am. I was floored to see 15K. I am taking a hard look at what I am eating and how the ratios look because it isn't anything like what I thought it was. I am carrying too much fat. I'm at 24% right now. Don't forget I was out of the gym for 5 months so I am going to gain weight pretty quickly at first no matter what I do. I have actually lost 2% bodyfat in a week while gaining 14 lbs. total. (I gained another lb today.)

Don't worry I go tot the doctor quite often and I get regular blood work done, on average every 4 months. Full liver, kidney, lipid and electrolytes. I tested my TSH recently and it was on the low end but normal. 1.8 on a "normal" scale of 1 - 4. . I am in great health at the moment. Now that I am aware of how much fat I am taking in I will cut that back and cut down the total calories. I am trying to gain weight but gaining ~2lb daily is not healthy. I realize that.

[Java Man]

Nice sessions guys!!

After ready everything Java eats... I hurried up and ate my food before he found me and ate it for me. How in the hell do you eat that much food??? I to am wondering what your goals are with that amount of cals? Sumo fighter??? lol

Hope everyone has a good Friday guys!! I have just been super super busy these last few weeks. Next week is also going to be a MFer. Still training pretty hard. On week 4 of 6 before I do a pull back week.

hah!. I smelled it and was on my way over but the smell waned so I figured I missed that boat.

I didn't know I was eating that much. I honestly do not know how I am doing that. I never had an appetite like this in the past. I have just been sticking to the thought that I must eat constantly. The fact that I only need about 5 hours or so of sleep doesn't help. That's 19 hours that I can be eating food. Apparently I have been too. I cut it back to only about 7000 today and I did not eat jelly beans, ice cream, or drink any soda. And I am hungry.

[Java Man]

I know we are talking HIT here guys. But really, 25minutes? That just seems like a ridiculously short period of time to accomplish anything.

If you are truly going to failure and doing only 1 work set with a few feelers for warm up, not at all too short. I rarely spend more than 30 min in the gym. (not including cardio). I can get massive DOMS from a 20 minute workout. It's all about how you're training.

[Java Man]

My legs are beat to shit still..... What a workout lol

Off to work..... Gotta babysit the drunks

What are you doing these days Haz? Are you bouncing? Last time I was on here regularly you were going through some shit with that bounty hunting company. Overworked underpaid and they were messing around with legal employment rules if I remember right.

[Java Man]

Java I'm at a loss as to why you're eating like this? What's your goal?

Also I know you don't count calories like I did on that spreadsheet anymore, but how much do you think you eat in a day? Just curious because your look is what I am after eventually. I want to be able to keep 220-230lbs of mass and be at or below 15%. You are probably around 6 or 7% but I have no illusions about my ability to hold a body fat level that low for any length of time. I think 12-15% is achievable for me though.

I am curious what a typical food intake day looks for you. if it works for you it should work for me. Correct me if I am wrong but you have a high metabolism right? So do I. Insanely high.

[Java Man]

Just got back from getting a rental.while.my truck is repaired. Pretty sure they were laughing when I left. They stuck me, a 6'2" ,fat, 270+ lb. ginger (with a braid halfway down his back and more ink than most people.can tolerate) in a fvcking candy@ss red Hyunda Accent. I about knocked myself out and dislocated a shoulder getting in the d@mn thing. Also, to top it all off, the car smells like a blunt.
Nothing against Hyundai, but this damn vehicle is awful small.
I'll be sooo glad to get my truck back next week. I'm way off of my usual sleep schedule, so going to crash out in a little bit and get up to lift early morning. Off work tonight.

Lol. This had me in stitches. The way you described this situation is comedy. And the way you described yourself lol. They probably did get a good laugh out of it. Why didn't you just say "haha... Ok guys, funny, but obviously I need a bigger car."

[Java Man]

OK guys I'm having bad issues. My stomach is screwed. Everytime I eat I get indigestion, heart burn and cunvulsive hiccups. It's really bad, I nearly went to the ER on the way to my job site. I got to drop the tren for sure but I have to stop the hiccups my chest hurts so bad. I took a Zantac, all I could get at 7-Eleven. Anybody have suggestions? I'm fuked.

try Omeprazole it works great when I get those issues due to the amount I eat.

I agree with Marcus. Take 30mg for the first dose. They are a 1 per day thing, so you can just take them at he same every day. Omeprazole also takes about 24 hours to start working though. After that first dose try taking just one per day but it sounds to me like you'll need at least 20mg daily. My prescription is 40mg daily and I had it as bad as you described. BUT while you are doing this please go see a gastroenterologist. Find out what the issue is and they can see if you have any damage. IMO PPI's work much better than H2's with what you described.

You can drink a tablespoon of baking soda in about 4 oz of water for immediate relief when you have an attack. After drinking that mixture drink another full glass of water. About another 8oz. Do it this way though in 2 steps. It doesn't work if you mix the baking soda with a large volume of water for some reason. You have to do it in this 2 step way. After a few minutes, you will let out a massive hot belch and the heartburn will be gone.

[Java Man]

Off to the gym. Just doing another light day. I'm still sore but I will do shoulders since I have not done that yet this week. They aren't sore. Everything else is.

Will start with smith front shoulder presses, then dumbbells for rear, mid and front. I will do drop sets to failure. Then calves. Then 15 min cardio which is 4mph walking at 10% incline.

Not starting HIT again until I feel ready and I don't feel ready yet. Probably won't be for a few more weeks.

[kelkel]

Honestly I just want to get back to a solid 240 then cut down to about 225 or so.

That's the part I've never really bought into. Why blow up just to have to do the work to drop back, like a yo-yo thing. Just plan your attack and build up slowly while putting on LBM. Much easier, imho.

Also I know you don't count calories like I did on that spreadsheet anymore, but how much do you think you eat in a day? Just curious because your look is what I am after eventually. I want to be able to keep 220-230lbs of mass and be at or below 15%. You are probably around 6 or 7% but I have no illusions about my ability to hold a body fat level that low for any length of time. I think 12-15% is achievable for me though.

I am curious what a typical food intake day looks for you. if it works for you it should work for me. Correct me if I am wrong but you have a high metabolism right? So do I. Insanely high.

I honestly have never counted a calorie or gram of anything. Even when I was competing. It just never interested me. I just shoot for 6 meals per day and I eat relatively clean, but I don't shy away from the occasional pizza (BBQ Ckn) or half-fat vanilla ice cream. The half-fat thing means I can eat twice as much. It's a math thing! I try to judge my gains via the mirror. I rarely ever get on a scale. And FFS I'm no where near 6-7% but that would be nice. I'll write down what I eat one day soon and maybe someone here can add it up.

[almostgone]

My legs are beat to shit still..... What a workout lol

Off to work..... Gotta babysit the drunks

Hope.you have a quiet shift, Haz. Please stay aware of what is going on around you. There are too many idiots in the world that go from stupid to flat out dumb@ss when they get a little alcohol in their system.

[Hazard]

Hope.you have a quiet shift, Haz. Please stay aware of what is going on around you. There are too many idiots in the world that go from stupid to flat out dumb@ss when they get a little alcohol in their system.

Thx man

It went smooth. Only threw out one guy.

[Java Man]

That's the part I've never really bought into. Why blow up just to have to do the work to drop back, like a yo-yo thing. Just plan your attack and build up slowly while putting on LBM. Much easier, imho.



I honestly have never counted a calorie or gram of anything. Even when I was competing. It just never interested me. I just shoot for 6 meals per day and I eat relatively clean, but I don't shy away from the occasional pizza (BBQ Ckn) or half-fat vanilla ice cream. The half-fat thing means I can eat twice as much. It's a math thing! I try to judge my gains via the mirror. I rarely ever get on a scale. And FFS I'm no where near 6-7% but that would be nice. I'll write down what I eat one day soon and maybe someone here can add it up.

Cool thank you. I'll do the math. If you just post a daily intake log like I did, just write down what you eat some random day. Post that and I'll put it into a spreadsheet like the one I have for myself. It has many of the foods we BB eat listed in it in portion sizes and calculates based on cell values for the foods and quantities. Won't take me long to get it all in a sheet.

The problem I have with gaining slow and low fat is that if I don't eat ~5500 cal per day I lose weight, and muscle. I usually try to eat twice that when bulking because since 5500 is my break even point, I have to double it if I want to gain weight and hold onto it. Eating 15K+ was a mistake that I did by accident. It is supposed to be around 9000. I lost 2% BF and gained 14lbs total, so that would seem to indicate that I gained 16lbs of lean mass. Impossible. So what then? I did the impudence test both times, I realize that isn't very accurate but it is a standardized static reference point because I used the same machine both times. The difference is what is important. 2% is true even if the total BF is not accurate.

If this were to continue at the same rate, 15K cal daily same ratios of P/C/F , which I know is fantasy but humor me, in another 3 weeks I will have gained 56 lbs total and lost 8% BF. I would then weigh 271lbs with a BF% of 18%. What's wrong with that?

[Bio-Active]

Wide grip lay pull downs

Seated rows

Incline reverse grip pulls

Bent over rows

Lower back extensions

30 minutes low intensity cardio and done

[NACH3]

Well I never got my lift in yesterday but I'm going for it today...

Have a great w/everyone

Btw - been checking my BP regularly - it's been 130/70(and I usually run a little higher) so I'm glad about this... Just wanted to share...

[novastepp]

Chest is tightening and becoming more sore with every passing hour. My tris kill when I flex them too. Love it.

[Bio-Active]

Chest is tightening and becoming more sore with every passing hour. My tris kill when I flex them too. Love it.

nice job... My back is still on fire

[BG]

This week was a catastrophe. I stated that I had stomach issues in the beginning of the week, I fasted for a day and got that sorted out. Wed was chest, shoulder hurt so bad I thought my arm was going to fall off. That was beating me up bad wed/thurs but friday I said I was going to crush legs. I was amped up, got in the rack, one plate warm up and it rolled all the way down my back. I caught it right mid back, got it in the rack but it tore the shit out of my shoulder and pulled a muscle same side in my lat. I should have just let it go. Its crazy, before I added tren I was squatting 405 for 15, 475 for 4 not pushing it. Now Im having a hard time getting 405 for 10, I wouldn't dare put 475 on my back. Maybe its because my diet was screwed up for days, but this was the week before, I really think it because Im not sleeping good. Im kinda in a bad place, but I have to realize this always happens when I go on, every time, this is why I dont run anything anymore. Im going to drop the deca next, keeping just 250 test, 250 tren-e and see how it goes. If things dont turn around Ill drop the tren, I just dont want to drop everything at once because I will get acne.

[Bio-Active]

Bummer BG and sorry to hear. Sleep deprivation on tren is killer. Were you running deca before? Are you running a DA?

[BG]

Bummer BG and sorry to hear. Sleep deprivation on tren is killer. Were you running deca before? Are you running a DA?

Yes, the deca has been going for awhile,I know its not the deca, I just wont give up on the tren

No DA

[Bio-Active]

Yes, the deca has been going for awhile,I know its not the deca, I just wont give up on the tren No DA

I get it but man I would have a hard time giving up the deca too

[NACH3]

This week was a catastrophe. I stated that I had stomach issues in the beginning of the week, I fasted for a day and got that sorted out. Wed was chest, shoulder hurt so bad I thought my arm was going to fall off. That was beating me up bad wed/thurs but friday I said I was going to crush legs. I was amped up, got in the rack, one plate warm up and it rolled all the way down my back. I caught it right mid back, got it in the rack but it tore the shit out of my shoulder and pulled a muscle same side in my lat. I should have just let it go. Its crazy, before I added tren I was squatting 405 for 15, 475 for 4 not pushing it. Now Im having a hard time getting 405 for 10, I wouldn't dare put 475 on my back. Maybe its because my diet was screwed up for days, but this was the week before, I really think it because Im not sleeping good. Im kinda in a bad place, but I have to realize this always happens when I go on, every time, this is why I dont run anything anymore. Im going to drop the deca next, keeping just 250 test, 250 tren-e and see how it goes. If things dont turn around Ill drop the tren, I just dont want to drop everything at once because I will get acne.

Sorry man... I'm pretty sure I'd still be trying if I were you too! bummer bug it'll turn around - in my experience either DAs(help me sleep) whereas some it disturbs it.... Even very low dose would help me fall asleep but I'm not running one yet either until BW this time...

[BG]

BG, I know you are probably under constant deadlines @ work, like myself. One thing that I've noticed (especially when on cycle or a blast), is that I tend to attack my food and scarf it down vs. taking time to properly chew my food.
I don't know if it will help you or not, but make sure you're chewing your food well. If I am in a rush or anabolically enhanced, I tend to attack my food and devour it as fast as possible. It really causes me pain and grief later on.
Just a thought. Hope.you get right ASAP, buddy!

You are 100% correct I have been doing that of late. I also have almost nearly stopped drinking water. These two I have been working on. Thanks pal.

[BG]

Sorry man... I'm pretty sure I'd still be trying if I were you too! bummer bug it'll turn around - in my experience either DAs(help me sleep) whereas some it disturbs it.... Even very low dose would help me fall asleep but I'm not running one yet either until BW this time...

Hey Nach and Bio, is there a DA you guys rec or just a dosage.

[Bio-Active]

Hey Nach and Bio, is there a DA you guys rec or just a dosage.

well... Caber us easy to dose .5 mg 2xew prami depends on how you deal with the sides needs to be doses daily and I would start low .125 mg Ed and work your way up from there

[almostgone]

This week was a catastrophe. I stated that I had stomach issues in the beginning of the week, I fasted for a day and got that sorted out. Wed was chest, shoulder hurt so bad I thought my arm was going to fall off. That was beating me up bad wed/thurs but friday I said I was going to crush legs. I was amped up, got in the rack, one plate warm up and it rolled all the way down my back. I caught it right mid back, got it in the rack but it tore the shit out of my shoulder and pulled a muscle same side in my lat. I should have just let it go. Its crazy, before I added tren I was squatting 405 for 15, 475 for 4 not pushing it. Now Im having a hard time getting 405 for 10, I wouldn't dare put 475 on my back. Maybe its because my diet was screwed up for days, but this was the week before, I really think it because Im not sleeping good. Im kinda in a bad place, but I have to realize this always happens when I go on, every time, this is why I dont run anything anymore. Im going to drop the deca next, keeping just 250 test, 250 tren-e and see how it goes. If things dont turn around Ill drop the tren, I just dont want to drop everything at once because I will get acne.

BG, you know your body better than anyone, but what if you dropped the tren and kept the Deca , instead? Don't get me wrong I have a love/hate relationship with tren myself, but if I run it again, I will probably go with a low dose like Kel has mentioned in the past.
Hope your muscle strains go away, ASAP! Not sleeping well compounded by work stress absolutely sucks.
The bar rolling down your back is a bad place to be. It's hard to resist the urge to salvage the attempt when that happens. Hope you get some solid rest, buddy!

[novastepp]

This week was a catastrophe. I stated that I had stomach issues in the beginning of the week, I fasted for a day and got that sorted out. Wed was chest, shoulder hurt so bad I thought my arm was going to fall off. That was beating me up bad wed/thurs but friday I said I was going to crush legs. I was amped up, got in the rack, one plate warm up and it rolled all the way down my back. I caught it right mid back, got it in the rack but it tore the shit out of my shoulder and pulled a muscle same side in my lat. I should have just let it go. Its crazy, before I added tren I was squatting 405 for 15, 475 for 4 not pushing it. Now Im having a hard time getting 405 for 10, I wouldn't dare put 475 on my back. Maybe its because my diet was screwed up for days, but this was the week before, I really think it because Im not sleeping good. Im kinda in a bad place, but I have to realize this always happens when I go on, every time, this is why I dont run anything anymore. Im going to drop the deca next, keeping just 250 test, 250 tren-e and see how it goes. If things dont turn around Ill drop the tren, I just dont want to drop everything at once because I will get acne.

Man that just absolutely sucks. I hope you can catch some rest and a meal without complications. You're still a beast, and food and rest will have you back and at 500lb squats, no doubt.

[Sfla80]

So I've been adding my amps to vials each time I pin. Slowly but surely filling up.

Had my brother stay over the over night. My in use vials I keep in medicine cabneit. Everything else in closet but in the same bathroom.

So all my in use stuff...vial, dex, cia...I put in toilet tree bag under sink. I go to take everything out this morning...the vial has crashed.

I have 3 other full vials and they are fine. And we're literally stored 1 foot away (just in a closet and not under sink)

Is it worth trying to save? (Heating it up and swirling ) I have plenty. What crashed is about 750-1000mg test.

Also why would this one crash and nothing else?

Maybe I just start a thread....

[Bio-Active]

So I've been adding my amps to vials each time I pin. Slowly but surely filling up. Had my brother stay over the over night. My in use vials I keep in medicine cabneit. Everything else in closet but in the same bathroom. So all my in use stuff...vial, dex, cia...I put in toilet tree bag under sink. I go to take everything out this morning...the vial has crashed. I have 3 other full vials and they are fine. And we're literally stored 1 foot away (just in a closet and not under sink) Is it worth trying to save? (Heating it up and swirling ) I have plenty. What crashed is about 750-1000mg test. Also why would this one crash and nothing else? Maybe I just start a thread....

test e or c? I would heat it up. Probably just got colder in the area were it was