**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[krugerr]

Lmao I couldn't pin both tris and bis and do arms the same day...... I'd feel like my arms would pop. I try to pin a muscle that I know I won't hafta train the day after.

I can pin quads/glutes and train same day with no issue. Everything else I try avoid. Did chest by mistake once, that wasn't comfortable!!

[DCI]

Can't wait to hear the results man

[marcus300]

Lmao I couldn't pin both tris and bis and do arms the same day...... I'd feel like my arms would pop. I try to pin a muscle that I know I won't hafta train the day after.

Come on lol. Train it as soon as possible after the shot. You get the extra pump and stretch. You need to sort that out and get it done.

[crazy mike]

I used test e..... 1500mg for a few months. I didn't want to use a 19nor and decided to higher dose it. I actually was experimenting with compounds and dosing. I don't want to post everything in the open but let's say it was the "middle" portion of a longer style cycle.

I don't think one should rely on tren 2-3 times a year to build or lean out. So with a good diet an higher test dosage..... One can do well. I really don't get too many sides. I don't bloat much, I get mild acne when I go on or come off, that's about it. I can say that at 1500mgs bloating started to show. I wasn't too consistent with an AI then either.

Hope this is ok. To jump in and say...^^^ I like what is said. My cycle last, was Test only E & P total average week dose of 1,350 - 1,450 mgs and I used Arimidex liquid .25 mgs ED. This was the best cycle in that the side were nothing to speak of. I did get much stronger on this cycle. I wasn't expecting the strength gains. I did not bloat, I actually stayed lean due to my diet. I agree that for many people that they can get by using test only, and get good gains. More to stack depending on goals. We all find what works best for ourselves. This with trial an time. ...crazy mike

I could see and want to some day run 2g wk with test BUT the $$$$ ...cm

[Capebuffalo]

Do you know where most of the volume goes. .....biceps

I told you in another thread and will tell you again......98% of us do not have biceps as big as yours.

Can't do it. Not bicep. My calfs are bigger than my biceps and I only did that 4 times.

[crazy mike]

I told you in another thread and will tell you again......98% of us do not have biceps as big as yours.

Can't do it. Not bicep. My calfs are bigger than my biceps and I only did that 4 times.

I am considering my Bicep. The skin is thin and no fat. Using a 25G 5/8" for Prop might be a good place. It would get deep into muscle tissue for sure. Gonna try it today with test P 1/2 cc. I'll get back in a while. ...crazy mike

[Capebuffalo]

Ok well that is a good question.

Where are the you putting your high volume injections?
Marcus said bicep. I have moved from delts and glutes to lats and quads.
Anyone else?

[clarky.]

Never thought of going in from the side never did the bi's though might give that a try wee bit a time lol I can't take more that 1ml in the delt or it gets really sore I know p*ssy

[crazy mike]

I am considering my Bicep. The skin is thin and no fat. Using a 25G 5/8" for Prop might be a good place. It would get deep into muscle tissue for sure. Gonna try it today with test P 1/2 cc. I'll get back in a while. ...crazy mike

OK well there went Test Prop @ 100mg and 1cc into my shoulder. I just hit the floor was shaking and passed out !! .............Ya think, NO I'm kidding but it wasn't as bad as I though. I wiggled a bit ...poo. But It's funky, never having done this, but G2G.
I'll drop in later this evening and tell more. I suspect oil would be much different. ...crazy mike

Also I didn't hit on tdc..I hit it at 10 o'clock. ...cm

[krugerr]

Ok well that is a good question.

Where are the you putting your high volume injections?
Marcus said bicep. I have moved from delts and glutes to lats and quads.
Anyone else?

Quads and glutes for me - these are entirely painless every time, 4cc no problem, just have to go really slowly and it's fine.

Delta and chest are 2cc tops - any more and it hurts.

So I could potentially do 24cc a week if I filled all of these! Although I expect I'd feel like a pin cushion!

[marcus300]

Ok well that is a good question.

Where are the you putting your high volume injections?
Marcus said bicep. I have moved from delts and glutes to lats and quads.
Anyone else?

Delts biceps triceps glutes

[Hazard]

2cc chest

2cc delts - I've done 3cc when my delts were bigger

Glutes and quads can't pin anymore due to a severe burning through the entire injection.

Tris - 2cc

Bis next I suppose but idunno when that'll be

[sawyer86]

Delts and glutes for me. Dont know if i'd dare do anywhere else.

[kelkel]

Do you know where most of the volume goes. .....biceps

Not a fvcking chance. Hell no.

[Hazard]

Delts and glutes for me. Dont know if i'd dare do anywhere else.

Everywhere is easier than glutes lol. I actually find the chest completely painless. Tris are painless too

[clarky.]

Not a fvcking chance. Hell no.

[clarky.]

Everywhere is easier than glutes lol. I actually find the chest completely painless. Tris are painless too

What size of pin do you use for chest hazard

[BG]

The mind's a terrible thing. I was probably still traumatized from Marcus!

I didnt badger you either lol .

[Hazard]

What size of pin do you use for chest hazard

23g - 1 1/2" but sink it 1/2 way to 1"

[clarky.]

23g - 1 1/2" but sink it 1/2 way to 1"

Ive got 25s 1" and 23s 1&quarter that will do thanks mate

[Hazard]

Ive got 25s 1" and 23s 1&quarter that will do thanks mate

Gotta find the right spot..... 1 1/4" above the nipple and 1 1/4" towards the breast bone. It should be right in the meat.

1st couple injections will be sore..... Virgin muscle

[clarky.]

Gotta find the right spot..... 1 1/4" above the nipple and 1 1/4" towards the breast bone. It should be right in the meat.

1st couple injections will be sore..... Virgin muscle

Thanks hazard very very helpful info

[marcus300]

Can't wait to hear the results man

I hope everything goes smoothly with my work load, if I can get through the prime without any serious complication with my plan I will run one of the cycles. I think I should be ok even if I go off track for a day or two due to issues I cant control I still should be able to finish it and rebound

[marcus300]

Not a fvcking chance. Hell no.

My trt injection is 4ML and that goes in now and again

[clarky.]

Can't wait to hear the results man

HEAR it dci a can't wait to see the results the big man is a fvcking monster the now ooooooooh am looking forward to the new avi

[Capebuffalo]

Ok question. Is it because as a noob and would inject as fast as I could push the plunger and not the steadiest hand that I have a lot of scar tissue? I can't pin glutes unless I take time and find an exact spot. Otherwise pushing the plunder is hard. Hard like pressing it into a wall and holding the barrel.

Can you break it up?

[Hazard]

Ok question. Is it because as a noob and would inject as fast as I could push the plunger and not the steadiest hand that I have a lot of scar tissue? I can't pin glutes unless I take time and find an exact spot. Otherwise pushing the plunder is hard. Hard like pressing it into a wall and holding the barrel.

Can you break it up?

I have the same problem. It's almost impossible to push the oil in. It's not even worth trying anymore. It also burns so bad that it feels like the whole needle is red hot

[clarky.]

How long does it take to get scar tissue in a site is it after hundreds of pines or from bad inj technique or what ?

[Capebuffalo]

I have the same problem. It's almost impossible to push the oil in. It's not even worth trying anymore. It also burns so bad that it feels like the whole needle is red hot

I'm not alone. Is it injecting to fast? I'm much slower now. On delts especially. I've had to remove 15 cc of liquid from the right. That's not fun

[Hazard]

I'm not alone. Is it injecting to fast? I'm much slower now. On delts especially. I've had to remove 15 cc of liquid from the right. That's not fun

I been trying to figure this out myself man. I didn't shoot my glutes for 2 years..... Figured I'd try it again...... Intense burning pain and the oil wouldn't push in. I'm never pinning them again.

It's not like I pinned my glutes only for years either so it sounds like technique and possibly the volume of oil could be the problem

[kelkel]

I use either a 25 ga 1" or 27 ga .5" for glutes. No pain, no issues.

[Hazard]

I use either a 25 ga 1" or 27 ga .5" for glutes. No pain, no issues.

I dont think I've ever used a 27g in my life :-p

Did you mean 27g 1.5"? If your ass is lean enough for a .5" right now I don't think we can talk anymore.....

[clarky.]

25g 1" that's what I use glutes ^^^

[DCI]

I hope everything goes smoothly with my work load, if I can get through the prime without any serious complication with my plan I will run one of the cycles. I think I should be ok even if I go off track for a day or two due to issues I cant control I still should be able to finish it and rebound

Knowing you, you will make work, work round your training schedule. This will be really interesting insight into the prime etc on a daily log basis

[DCI]

Tonight was shoulders, the driving force that I used for back was gone thankfully tonight as got good news so used the good news as a motivator for tonight. I am aching all over my shoulder area.

Started with warm up hammerstrength pressing x2 light weight
Then increased the weight twice with complete failure posi on heaviest set then two searing pain drops was intense. So imtense my muscles were twitching and felt every fiber scream from the assault.

Then arnie pressing this was insane as managed pb with 70lb db only for 4 reps but its progression, did the same as above reps/sets wise was in serious pain.

The bb plate shrugs just for the shear burn factor

Onto front raises and the db shrugs by this time i was completely drained. The heat and sweat coming off my body was silly i had steam off the top of my head which is a new occurance

[Capebuffalo]

I use either a 25 ga 1" or 27 ga .5" for glutes. No pain, no issues.

Where do you find the 2.5 hrs to pin with the 27 ga ?

[Hazard]

Where do you find the 2.5 hrs to pin with the 27 ga ?

Lmfao I was thinking that

[crazy mike]

Hi guys it's crazy again. Listen I tried the bicep injection as I said. I used a 25g 5/8" that's small enough and long enough so I thought. It , got deep in my bicep which has no fatty tissuse over it.

My take is I wish I used a 1" and got deep much deeper. There is plenty of muscle depth.
So the injection was mild. I wasn't used to doing this and so even that it was simple I fvked up. I had to change my grip. When I did it was wobbling around by itself for a moment.

So with that I think I bruised myself and I'm a bit sore. I don't think I'd be ready to do Bi's right now. However that was technique. But the injection into my bicep was just fine. I will try it again another time. THX ...crazy mike

[kelkel]

I dont think I've ever used a 27g in my life :-p

Did you mean 27g 1.5"? If your ass is lean enough for a .5" right now I don't think we can talk anymore.....

No I meant 27g .5" (point five inch)

It has been nice talking to you.

Where do you find the 2.5 hrs to pin with the 27 ga ?

I don't think it takes long at all.

[Hazard]

No I meant 27g .5" (point five inch)

It has been nice talking to you.

I don't think it takes long at all.

How the fvck......

What are u shooting in the glute with a .5?