The Conditioning Classic ideas redux...

[Lunk1]

I've put almost 10lbs on since Xmas. I stopped my Calorie restriction, and since this competition was announced, I stopped altogether with my cutting. I know what works for me now, so I'm going to beast it once we start!

I gained exactly 10 back since the holidays as well. I dont care about winning shyt but wouldnt mind seeing 225 or less by the time I get on the boat this summer. Thats a win for me!

[frank13]

i gained 20 since the holidays no big deal

[GirlyGymRat]

i gained 20 since the holidays no big deal

20 good or 20 bad???

[Brick]

Looking to finish at 210-215 sub 10

[frank13]

20 good or 20 bad???

good

[human project]

Looks like I'm alrdy going to the finals

I wish I had your confidence

[human project]

Cant wait to see how many actually make the over 200 weigh in lol!
Pretty sure I'll be ok lol!

I doubt I'm back under 200lbs till I get cancer.....

[human project]

Yep. 6'4", ~250lbs. I'm going to try get a bodpod done next week whilst I'm in London. I'm around 19-21%bf at a guess. Lets see where I get on this competition, I have much room for improvement!

Impressive

[Tron3219]

I gained exactly 10 back since the holidays as well. I dont care about winning shyt but wouldnt mind seeing 225 or less by the time I get on the boat this summer. Thats a win for me!

i gained about 5 since the holidays/vacation started. sittin at 205right now. every since i decided to start this comp ive stopped my cutting, trying to get it to where you can just barely see my abs

[krugerr]

Impressive

Thanks! I still feel tiny.

[BUTTERYGOODNESS]

I wish I had your confidence

It helps alot

[wh1spa]

Sorry Cape, I need to be removed from that final tally, this is going to be a bad time of year for me!

[Capebuffalo]

I think this is current

Total count: 18

Under 200 natural: 5
Energizer Bunny
Bigshotvictoria
Jeromehauser
Bdos900
JuggyK


Over 200 natural: 1

BUTTERYGOODNESS

Under 200 open: 2
SteM
Soar

Over 200 open: 8
Lunk1
Brick
Humanproject
dan68131
FQ320
Krugerr
Tron3219
Bertuzzi

Undeclared: 2
Ragincajun
Lovbyts

updated Sunday

New update

[lovbyts]

No I added my position about a week ago.

I think this is current

Total count: 18

Under 200 natural: 5
Energizer Bunny
Bigshotvictoria
Jeromehauser
Bdos900
JuggyK


Over 200 natural: 1

BUTTERYGOODNESS

Under 200 open: 2
SteM
Soar
Lovbyts

Over 200 open: 8
Lunk1
Brick
Humanproject
dan68131
FQ320
Krugerr
Tron3219
Bertuzzi

Undeclared: 2
Ragincajun


updated Sunday

[Brick]

I am unsure about which category I will be competing in. I can end up in over or under open but I am unsure. I am cutting hard as I don't need the comp to start for me to start getting to my best!

Misery, what's the deadline for me declaring what weight class I am in?

[bdos]

How does it work if an under 200 open finishes up as 200+ ? Doesn't apply to me but just curious

[Capebuffalo]

How does it work if an under 200 open finishes up as 200+ ? Doesn't apply to me but just curious

Point deduction

[Lunk1]

I would like a ruling on the weigh in and weigh out process please. For example..to compete in the over 200 class one must weigh in at over 200 yes? Would one need to weigh out at over 200 as well?

If someone weighed in at 210 but dropped to 180...would that put them in the under 200 class???

[Soar]

If someone weighed in at 210 but dropped to 180...would that put them in the under 200 class???

If they started at 210 and signed up for under 200 I'd think they should stay in under 200 class. If they signed up for over 200 and start at 180 they should stay in over 200. The class you sign up for should be the class you plan to finish in.

[BUTTERYGOODNESS]

I would like a ruling on the weigh in and weigh out process please. For example..to compete in the over 200 class one must weigh in at over 200 yes? Would one need to weigh out at over 200 as well?

If someone weighed in at 210 but dropped to 180...would that put them in the under 200 class???

IMO they should be considered in the group they started no matter if they happen to be in a different class at the end to show most improvement versus the others they started against. Then winners of each groups compared for an overall

[Back In Black]

IMO they should be considered in the group they started no matter if they happen to be in a different class at the end to show most improvement versus the others they started against. Then winners of each groups compared for an overall

I'm with you and all your buttery goodness!

[Misery13]

I am unsure about which category I will be competing in. I can end up in over or under open but I am unsure. I am cutting hard as I don't need the comp to start for me to start getting to my best!

Misery, what's the deadline for me declaring what weight class I am in?

I'm going to say you have until midnight the day the comp starts.

[Misery13]

How does it work if an under 200 open finishes up as 200+ ? Doesn't apply to me but just curious

If someone starts to head in another class because that's just where his body is taking him than he needs to make the decision if he wants to change classes or try to stay where he is and let the judges know what he'd like to do.

[Misery13]

Point deduction

And if he just rides it out he takes the chance of losing points.

[Misery13]

I would like a ruling on the weigh in and weigh out process please. For example..to compete in the over 200 class one must weigh in at over 200 yes? Would one need to weigh out at over 200 as well?

If someone weighed in at 210 but dropped to 180...would that put them in the under 200 class???

Weigh in doesn't matter. If your180 and you enter the over 200 but at the end your only 190... Point deduction.

[Misery13]

IMO they should be considered in the group they started no matter if they happen to be in a different class at the end to show most improvement versus the others they started against. Then winners of each groups compared for an overall

All judges please give your opinions on this so we can vote.

[Soar]

Weigh in doesn't matter. If your180 and you enter the over 200 but at the end your only 190... Point deduction.

Awesome Ty

[Misery13]

If someone starts to head in another class because that's just where his body is taking him than he needs to make the decision if he wants to change classes or try to stay where he is and let the judges know what he'd like to do.

As you were on this decision. Give me some time. I don't like this.

[Capebuffalo]

As you were on this decision. Give me some time. I don't like this.

My thought is you choose your class that's your class but I'm open to discussion.

[BUTTERYGOODNESS]

My thought is you choose your class that's your class but I'm open to discussion.

Hmmmm well let's see. Wht if someone starts at above 200 and happens to be cutting and ends up below 200. I don't think a point deduction should be implemented because his or her goal is to in fact cut bodyfat and they happened to lose enough bf that it put them below 200. And according to pics that persons transformation was incredible and for discussions sake, perfect. Doesn't seem fair to deduct from them because Of weight loss. Vice versa with this with someone bulking. IMO possible reorganization of things in some way to redistribute classes as this seems to be a 'transformation comp'. or keep the classes as is and do the comparisons as I suggested above.

[lovbyts]

Just open it up + or - 5-10

[BUTTERYGOODNESS]

Just open it up + or - 5-10

But even then what for those who make an even greater transformation then 10 lbs

[Soar]

But even then what for those who make an even greater transformation then 10 lbs

That should be taken into consideration when you choose your class no? For most to gain or losing an additional ten pounds is quite significant.

[Capebuffalo]

Hmmmm well let's see. Wht if someone starts at above 200 and happens to be cutting and ends up below 200. I don't think a point deduction should be implemented because his or her goal is to in fact cut bodyfat and they happened to lose enough bf that it put them below 200. And according to pics that persons transformation was incredible and for discussions sake, perfect. Doesn't seem fair to deduct from them because Of weight loss. Vice versa with this with someone bulking. IMO possible reorganization of things in some way to redistribute classes as this seems to be a 'transformation comp'. or keep the classes as is and do the comparisons as I suggested above.

You know if your bulking or cutting. You either gain or lose weight. If I 210 and cutting I would say I'm doing under 200 open. Again lets discuss

[Soar]

You know if your bulking or cutting. You either gain or lose weight. If I 210 and cutting I would say I'm doing under 200 open. Again lets discuss

I agree with this 100%, each person has their set goal and should of chosen the class best suited and closest to their goal.

[Back In Black]

You know if your bulking or cutting. You either gain or lose weight. If I 210 and cutting I would say I'm doing under 200 open. Again lets discuss

I'm gonna be bulking, probably starting at under 190. It's a lean bulk with minimal 'supplementation'.

I don't wanna feel I have to stop at 199 but I don't imagine I'll go over 205. If I then have to compete with guys on a cut who can lose 40lb and come it at a really lean 230lbs then I can't really compete against that.

[Capebuffalo]

I'm gonna be bulking, probably starting at under 190. It's a lean bulk with minimal 'supplementation'.

I don't wanna feel I have to stop at 199 but I don't imagine I'll go over 205. If I then have to compete with guys on a cut who can lose 40lb and come it at a really lean 230lbs then I can't really compete against that.

Understood. Let us talk about the classes. What if the classes were like npc weight classes. There is a point for classes unless you just want open and natural.

[Soar]

Personally I think the classes are best suited as is. There will be bulkers and cutters, ultimately to keep people as motivated as possible I think the more classes the better.

[Misery13]

Understood. Let us talk about the classes. What if the classes were like npc weight classes. There is a point for classes unless you just want open and natural.

Bump. This is why we opened this thread. Ideas please.

[Capebuffalo]

Thoughts


Bantamweight - up to and including 143-1/4
Lightweight - over 143-1/4 up to and including 154-1/4
Middleweight - over 154-1/4 up to and including 176-1/4
Light-Heavyweight - over 176-1/4 up to and including 198-1/4
Heavyweight - over 198-1/4 up to and including 225-1/4
Super Heavyweight - over 225-1/4