The Conditioning Classic ideas redux...

[RaginCajun]

Yer jokin' aren't ya! I need to work out an amazing diet that takes me from my post surgery state of 14%ish at 185lbs to 9% at 195 minimum. I may have to extend my planned short ass cycle to stand a chance here!

14! i'm more like 18 here, so plenty room for improvements!

[Capebuffalo]

Yer jokin' aren't ya! I need to work out an amazing diet that takes me from my post surgery state of 14%ish at 185lbs to 9% at 195 minimum. I may have to extend my planned short ass cycle to stand a chance here!

I know as a Judge I shouldn't help but what the hell. Here ya go big guy.


http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UQbn1Se9KSM

[GirlyGymRat]

Lmao hence the lol
I just wanted tease u with what u can't have lol

U big tease

[GirlyGymRat]

but i'm not

U squally wag. Lol

[GirlyGymRat]

You have. NO idea. I expect a lot. But I give a lot.

I no doubt u. But somehow I speculating that I have more to give of what my assistant might rather enjoy.....purely speculation on my part!

[Lunk1]

Honestly I dont care for the new plan. I think it should be like wrestling weigh ins. If your going to compete in a class then you need to stay within those parameters. If your under 200 and bulking and fear you will go above 200...then lose more fat and stay under 200! Vice versa if you enter over 200 and are cutting and fear your going to fall onder 200...then add more fukin muscle....wrestlers and boxers have been making weight for years.

[Capebuffalo]

I no doubt u. But somehow I speculating that I have more to give of what my assistant might rather enjoy.....purely speculation on my part!

I am sure. Mischievous one today. Me like.

[GirlyGymRat]

I am sure. Mischievous one today. Me like.

I can find the big blinking eye lash icon.

Blink. Blink. Blink. Wink

[RaginCajun]

Honestly I dont care for the new plan. I think it should be like wrestling weigh ins. If your going to compete in a class then you need to stay within those parameters. If your under 200 and bulking and fear you will go above 200...then lose more fat and stay under 200! Vice versa if you enter over 200 and are cutting and fear your going to fall onder 200...then add more fukin muscle....wrestlers and boxers have been making weight for years.

it is all about the conditioning that one can accomplish.

there was a contest like this before yall came around where members were given trainers on this site to help them achieve there goals.

i think MQ-123131 was the winner.

[RaginCajun]

and when does it start!!!!

[milky01623]

Thoughts China. What do you think?

I kinda agree with Mis as in we choose which class after final wiegh in BUT lunk has a valid point if the competitor chooses his/her class then they should stay within those parameters

But that leaves it wide open for squabbles between competitors so keep it easy and simple
Condition yourself then get judged on final wieght and all the competitor chooses is natty or not

Just my 10pence bossth

[Brick]

March 15

[Capebuffalo]

Realizing you can't make everyone happy. .... Everyone who signed up knew it was open or natty. With over 200 and under 200. Everyone signed up knowing that. Start weight has no significance. If you want to compete over 200 you must weight 201 + If you want to compete under 200. You must weigh 199- I don't give a damn if your bulking or cutting. You have a weight to make above or below 200 lbs. it's easy. You don't meet it you have points deducted. Everybody wants to make it fit their specific need. Everyone is in the same boat. That's my official opinion.

[RaginCajun]

Realizing you can't make everyone happy. .... Everyone who signed up knew it was open or natty. With over 200 and under 200. Everyone signed up knowing that. Start weight has no significance. If you want to compete over 200 you must weight 201 + If you want to compete under 200. You must weigh 199- I don't give a damn if your bulking or cutting. You have a weight to make above or below 200 lbs. it's easy. You don't meet it you have points deducted. Everybody wants to make it fit their specific need. Everyone is in the same boat. That's my official opinion.

well count me out cuz i will never see 200!

i don't agree with you here

so, if i happen to recomp my body but only weigh 180, i would get deducted 20 points! that's just plain retarded

[Lunk1]

Realizing you can't make everyone happy. .... Everyone who signed up knew it was open or natty. With over 200 and under 200. Everyone signed up knowing that. Start weight has no significance. If you want to compete over 200 you must weight 201 + If you want to compete under 200. You must weigh 199- I don't give a damn if your bulking or cutting. You have a weight to make above or below 200 lbs. it's easy. You don't meet it you have points deducted. Everybody wants to make it fit their specific need. Everyone is in the same boat. That's my official opinion.

I agree with this...my opinion is also you have to stay in that weight class. The idea of eating crap for 2 months to come in at 200.5 knowing you will finish well below that seems a bit like cheating in some way. Either be 200+ or be -200! My opinion!

[Capebuffalo]

well count me out cuz i will never see 200!

i don't agree with you here

so, if i happen to recomp my body but only weigh 180, i would get deducted 20 points! that's just plain retarded

What are you talking about you compete under 200 lbs.

[Lunk1]

well count me out cuz i will never see 200!

i don't agree with you here

so, if i happen to recomp my body but only weigh 180, i would get deducted 20 points! that's just plain retarded

If you will never make 200 then obviously you would register under 200. Doesnt seem that crazy!

[Capebuffalo]

No I added my position about a week ago.

I think this is current

Total count: 18

Under 200 natural: 5
Energizer Bunny
Bigshotvictoria
Jeromehauser
Bdos900
JuggyK


Over 200 natural: 1

BUTTERYGOODNESS

Under 200 open: 2
SteM
Soar
Lovbyts

Over 200 open: 8
Lunk1
Brick
Humanproject
dan68131
FQ320
Krugerr
Tron3219
Bertuzzi

Undeclared: 2
Ragincajun


updated Sunday

You guys remember this. ???

[Capebuffalo]

This is where the challenge part of the competition comes in. Dial your shit in and come in at your weight.

[BUTTERYGOODNESS]

Realizing you can't make everyone happy. .... Everyone who signed up knew it was open or natty. With over 200 and under 200. Everyone signed up knowing that. Start weight has no significance. If you want to compete over 200 you must weight 201 + If you want to compete under 200. You must weigh 199- I don't give a damn if your bulking or cutting. You have a weight to make above or below 200 lbs. it's easy. You don't meet it you have points deducted. Everybody wants to make it fit their specific need. Everyone is in the same boat. That's my official opinion.

Where things may seem confusing to people is where the ending weight was not a set rule prior to sign up.

[Lunk1]

This is where the challenge part of the competition comes in. Dial your shit in and come in at your weight.

I agree...weigh in and weigh out in your weight class....points deducted if you go above or below! Seems simple!!!!!

[Brick]

KISS!

Choose open or natural.

A month out declare if you will be over or under 200.

Honestly though. If you don't have your whole 12 weeks mapped out your going to probably lose to a more dedicate competitor anyways.



1. You should have your cycle planned out by the start date right?
2. You'll know what compounds you're taking and the effects it will have on your body.
3. You should know what your end result will look like. Do you want to drop from 20% to 10%? Assume you'll be ****ing lighter then the start.
Do you want to go from 180-195 but stay at under 12% bf? Then assume you'll put on weight! Gaining to much fat and you're going over 200 you'll prob also be over your 12%. Dial back the calories and shed a couple % then.

Case in point. A well planned competitor should know what they are doing, why they are doing it and roughly where they will end up at the end!

[Capebuffalo]

KISS!

Choose open or natural.

A month out declare if you will be over or under 200.

Honestly though. If you don't have your whole 12 weeks mapped out your going to probably lose to a more dedicate competitor anyways.



1. You should have your cycle planned out by the start date right?
2. You'll know what compounds you're taking and the effects it will have on your body.
3. You should know what your end result will look like. Do you want to drop from 20% to 10%? Assume you'll be ****ing lighter then the start.
Do you want to go from 180-195 but stay at under 12% bf? Then assume you'll put on weight! Gaining to much fat and you're going over 200 you'll prob also be over your 12%. Dial back the calories and shed a couple % then.

Case in point. A well planned competitor should know what they are doing, why they are doing it and roughly where they will end up at the end!

Well said and understanding of the process.

[Lunk1]

Where things may seem confusing to people is where the ending weight was not a set rule prior to sign up.

To me it would be assumed if thats your class then an ending weight would still be in that class! Not "hey..I will eat 6000 cals of mcD's for 2 months, weigh in at 205 and then go back to my normal 180"! Where is the challenge in that?

The challenge is in starting at 180, add muscle while dropping BF and still coming in under 200 with a much more refined look!

[BUTTERYGOODNESS]

So just to be clear with others, if u think you will end up in the opposite weight class, put yourself in that class

[BUTTERYGOODNESS]

To me it would be assumed if thats your class then an ending weight would still be in that class! Not "hey..I will eat 6000 cals of mcD's for 2 months, weigh in at 205 and then go back to my normal 180"! Where is the challenge in that?

The challenge is in starting at 180, add muscle while dropping BF and still coming in under 200 with a much more refined look!

I'm not saying I don't understand. I was saying that for those who don't lol.

[Misery13]

Ok. I've been in counsel with my dog and he says that we can go around and around over weight classes and still not get anywhere or make everyone happy. Everyone involved signed their name under where they wanted to compete. I told him that he had a good point. I will sleep on it and render a decision tomorrow. Thank you everyone for helping with their input.



Still looking for an assistant......

[Soar]

Yer jokin' aren't ya! I need to work out an amazing diet that takes me from my post surgery state of 14%ish at 185lbs to 9% at 195 minimum. I may have to extend my planned short ass cycle to stand a chance here!

Lol thought you were in competition mode all year? Ill be cutting probably aiming for a 20-30 cut, I would sign up for natural but ill be at the butt end of a bulk when this starts. Either way it'll be fun and in the long run we all win lol

[Lunk1]

Lol thought you were in competition mode all year? Ill be cutting probably aiming for a 20-30 cut, I would sign up for natural but ill be at the butt end of a bulk when this starts. Either way it'll be fun and in the long run we all win lol

Could not agree more! I have zero concern with winning $...I am just looking forward to the extra motivation to work towards my own goals, whatever is decided will not deter me from being apart of this romper room event lol!

[Tron3219]

Could not agree more! I have zero concern with winning $...I am just looking forward to the extra motivation to work towards my own goals, whatever is decided will not deter me from being apart of this romper room event lol!

Ditto....there's no way in hell I'll end up under 200 lol so either way its on like donkey kong

-TroN-

[BUTTERYGOODNESS]

Still looking for an assistant......

Job details?

[RaginCajun]

What are you talking about you compete under 200 lbs.

The deductions for weight

[Lunk1]

The deductions for weight

RC...wouldnt you start and end under 200???

[RaginCajun]

RC...wouldnt you start and end under 200???

Yes but I have no clue where my weight will go from here, it may drop further or sky rocket upwards

I thought this was about conditioning not about meeting a weight

I could care less what I weighed if I was 10% BF

Maybe I'm confused?

[krugerr]

Ditto....there's no way in hell I'll end up under 200 lol so either way its on like donkey kong

-TroN-

Same here. I'm in at around 250lbs at the moment. If I end up under 200lbs, it's because I've had my legs amputated. I'm safe in my category! I'm the same as Lunk, there are more dedicated members than me, I'm just entering for the fun and a little healthy competition.

[Brick]

Pretty sure I said it right.
Plan your shit out. If your 199 and want to gain weight you compete in the 200+. If your 185 and plan to gain 16 pounds your in 200- shed 2 pounds of fat at end to be 199 and not 201

[RaginCajun]

Pretty sure I said it right.
Plan your shit out. If your 199 and want to gain weight you compete in the 200+. If your 185 and plan to gain 16 pounds your in 200- shed 2 pounds of fat at end to be 199 and not 201

Like I said, I do not have 'weight' in mind

[Lunk1]

Yes but I have no clue where my weight will go from here, it may drop further or sky rocket upwards

I thought this was about conditioning not about meeting a weight

I could care less what I weighed if I was 10% BF

Maybe I'm confused?

You would not ever get over 200 right? Before or after...nothing to worry about in that case!

[RaginCajun]

You would not ever get over 200 right? Before or after...nothing to worry about in that case!

Nope, weigh 165 now. Prob weigh closer to 160 come weigh in. Where would and how would points be deducted from?

If I start at 160 and shoot up to 170. What would be the deductions?

unless something freakishly happens to me.

There's only one way to find out

[kelkel]

Can someone "sum up" exactly where we're at currently please?