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    rhetorical question on selling.

    Just to clarify in case people make assumptions. I have absolutely no intention of doing this.

    Lets say you decided to start selling aas. But, everything is fake. 100%. You start selling it off to people all over the place.

    You build yourself up and start mass producing.

    Cops break down your door and find 500 vials of fake test. There isn't any illegal drugs at all in your house. Just oil in a vial marked as test.

    How much legal trouble would you be in?

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    its the same thing. You still go to jail.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    ^^^^yep...If you are crushing up aspirin and selling it as blow...yoiur going to prison the same as it were blow. It drugs or anything simulating drugs!

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    rhetorical, heh.

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    You would be lucky if the police break down your door and go to jail compared to what happens when a bunch of juice head figure out you were selling bunk gear, intentionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    You would be lucky if the police break down your door and go to jail compared to what happens when a bunch of juice head figure out you were selling bunk gear, intentionally.
    ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts
    You would be lucky if the police break down your door and go to jail compared to what happens when a bunch of juice head figure out you were selling bunk gear, intentionally.
    ^^^ Yup....pray the cops get you first. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post

    ^^^ Yup....pray the cops get you first. Lol
    ^^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by diabolicsoul View Post
    Just to clarify in case people make assumptions. I have absolutely no intention of doing this.

    Lets say you decided to start selling aas. But, everything is fake. 100%. You start selling it off to people all over the place.

    You build yourself up and start mass producing.

    Cops break down your door and find 500 vials of fake test. There isn't any illegal drugs at all in your house. Just oil in a vial marked as test.

    How much legal trouble would you be in?
    I really hope this is hypothetical (not rhetorical) or you are going to get yourself into a world of trouble...

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    Why would you even ask this queston, rhetorical or not?


    if not manufacture and distribution you'd probably get slapped with fraud and racketeering, reckless endangerment for passing off what may or may not be sterile oil as a pharmaceutical grade IM drug.
    Last edited by Java Man; 02-13-2013 at 02:33 AM.

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    Didn't catch that! Rhetorical means you ask but you don't expect an answer because its obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    You would be lucky if the police break down your door and go to jail compared to what happens when a bunch of juice head figure out you were selling bunk gear, intentionally.
    Lollll

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    I'm not sure how this works, but i remember years ago, a schoolmate was selling a green leafy substance and got busted. come to find out, it wasn't the illegal variety, and so they had to let him go.

    not sure how this would be any different.

    but then again, this is NOT something I ordinarily ponder.....

    ....too much other stuff to worry about!

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    Go directly to jail and become someones girlfriend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel101
    Go directly to jail and become someones girlfriend!
    Do you pass go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diabolicsoul
    Just to clarify in case people make assumptions. I have absolutely no intention of doing this.

    Lets say you decided to start selling aas. But, everything is fake. 100%. You start selling it off to people all over the place.

    You build yourself up and start mass producing.

    Cops break down your door and find 500 vials of fake test. There isn't any illegal drugs at all in your house. Just oil in a vial marked as test.

    How much legal trouble would you be in?
    I am concerned for you. This doesn't sound good from several angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Do you pass go?
    Nope do not pass go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    I am concerned for you. This doesn't sound good from several angles.
    I am sorry GGR it's really hard to pay attention with youre picture showing!LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel101

    I am sorry GGR it's really hard to pay attention with youre picture showing!LOL
    Lol. It will be down in a few hours. One more for tomorrow and then back to normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Lol. It will be down in a few hours. One more for tomorrow and then back to normal.
    Whoa! stop right there nobody said anything about wanting it changed!LOL (with all due respect of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel101

    Whoa! stop right there nobody said anything about wanting it changed!LOL (with all due respect of course)
    Hahahahaha. I have one more to post and the week is over. Dan the AB dude posted a thread after I put up what I thought was going to be one time and its grown to more. One more later 2nite.

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    Everyone saying he would go to jail I highly doubt that. If all the substance is is oil there is no way he could be imprisoned. They have to test the substance being sold when he goes to trial to prove charges. With a good lawyer I doubt anything would happen. Synthol is legal as long as its termed posing oil on the labeling, so if your "test" youre selling was simply labeled oil then mabye youd have even a great fighting chance.

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    I think you'd have bigger problems than the legal side, some big mother ****ers coming over with baseball bats.

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    My friend was selling fake ecstasy tabs for ages. He got arrested at a night club with 500 pills on him but the charges were dropped because when the police tested them turns out they were just caffeine and a few other things no mdma so nothing illegal. Haha easy money 25$ a pill and he must have sold thousands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauced_Up View Post
    Everyone saying he would go to jail I highly doubt that. If all the substance is is oil there is no way he could be imprisoned. They have to test the substance being sold when he goes to trial to prove charges. With a good lawyer I doubt anything would happen. Synthol is legal as long as its termed posing oil on the labeling, so if your "test" youre selling was simply labeled oil then mabye youd have even a great fighting chance.
    well if your trying to sell it as a ugl and have test and deca are you going to make labels that just say oil?

    so if your vials say test 250. deca 300, which they would if your planning what the OP is yes you would get in trouble. Now jail time would matter if you had a previous record and how much you had on you.

    And i know someone who got caught selling counterfeit gear. so its not speculation on my part
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    My friend was selling fake ecstasy tabs for ages. He got arrested at a night club with 500 pills on him but the charges were dropped because when the police tested them turns out they were just caffeine and a few other things no mdma so nothing illegal. Haha easy money 25$ a pill and he must have sold thousands.
    Must have been a lot of idiots, if someone sold me bad x at a party I`m pretty sure I'd go find them not that I`m into that stuff anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by diabolicsoul View Post
    Just to clarify in case people make assumptions. I have absolutely no intention of doing this.

    Lets say you decided to start selling aas. But, everything is fake. 100%. You start selling it off to people all over the place.

    You build yourself up and start mass producing.

    Cops break down your door and find 500 vials of fake test. There isn't any illegal drugs at all in your house. Just oil in a vial marked as test.

    How much legal trouble would you be in?
    Do you know what a Hassa is Frank?

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    Even then its just a label, physically speaking there is NO ILLEGAL chemicals that would be sold thus any pending charges would be dropped as they could not prosecute you when the tests come up negative.

    I just dont see how any charges could stand in court when there is nothing they can prove since everything confiscated would be plain old oil..... which is legal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauced_Up View Post
    Even then its just a label, physically speaking there is NO ILLEGAL chemicals that would be sold thus any pending charges would be dropped as they could not prosecute you when the tests come up negative.

    I just dont see how any charges could stand in court when there is nothing they can prove since everything confiscated would be plain old oil..... which is legal
    doesnt matter you still had intent. i know people busted for it. May not make sense but its the law
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    True that... Guess with a good lawyer you could get off of actual possession but intent to sell would be where Id see them going after you for next

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    rhetorical, heh.
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    I am concerned for you. This doesn't sound good from several angles.
    Rhetorical question. No need to be concerned, that is why I made the disclaimer before my question.

    Only reason I was asking was that I knew a guy who just got out of jail for 7 years for selling AAS and other illicit drugs that can't be mentioned on this board. He was known to sell bunk gear and that just got me thinking about this question and legal trouble,etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diabolicsoul View Post
    Rhetorical question. No need to be concerned, that is why I made the disclaimer before my question.

    Only reason I was asking was that I knew a guy who just got out of jail for 7 years for selling AAS and other illicit drugs that can't be mentioned on this board. He was known to sell bunk gear and that just got me thinking about this question and legal trouble,etc.
    AAS doesn't get you 7 years unless you have a rap sheet longer than my cock. He must have been selling pills or the hardcore stuff

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    This explains my previous batch of Tren .

    Grrr

    Atleast 3 UGLs I know don't put labels on them but instead put a code. Like Test E will be TE250. Just that and nothing else on it.

    You wouldn't actually get into trouble for it. There will be a huge shitstorm while things clear up, but you would walk.

    Your bigger problem is actually making it to the mass production stage. This business works a lot through word of mouth. Sure, you may rip off some 18 year old with Dbolzz, but you won't get far before you lose customers.

    And don't forget...like Marcus said...every customer will have your info too...especially when you are a one man army initially.

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    Hypothetical is what you are looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuttonChop View Post
    This explains my previous batch of Tren .

    Grrr

    Atleast 3 UGLs I know don't put labels on them but instead put a code. Like Test E will be TE250. Just that and nothing else on it.

    You wouldn't actually get into trouble for it. There will be a huge shitstorm while things clear up, but you would walk.

    Your bigger problem is actually making it to the mass production stage. This business works a lot through word of mouth. Sure, you may rip off some 18 year old with Dbolzz, but you won't get far before you lose customers.

    And don't forget...like Marcus said...every customer will have your info too...especially when you are a one man army initially.
    Maybe in canada not in the US.
    Selling fakes is the same as selling legit. I know for a fact.
    And your source isnt covering anything buy putting TE250 you really think using initials is some loop hole that is going to get someone off?
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Rhetorical question woodcock

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper View Post
    Rhetorical question woodcock

    its rhetorical like jumbo shrimp
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

    its rhetorical like jumbo shrimp
    I think that's an oxymoron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    I think that's an oxymoron.
    guess my sarcasm didn't come through
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