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    The oldest juicer please stand up. . . .

    I been thinking over a lot of shit and long term juice use. This is the best way to get a real life in the field experiment in the longevity of a juicer. This is the biggest user community.


    Seriously who is the oldest on here? I ask this because the old school juice users seem to be doing well. Of course this is dependent on how much of a user one was. Arnold is still alive, but not in great shape considering what he once was. Yet Stallone still is. And even Valentino is alive and kicking and he doesn't even know the shit he was on. There are a few guys @ my gym that are well over 60 and look way solid. Talked to one who was in better shape than me(or at least the same) HE WAS 64 GOING ON 65! He had to be on stuff, I wanted to ask but it just wasn't the time.


    As for the ones with serious complications - They most likely stay away as far as possible from juice or shit related to it.

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    'Roid Warrior

    Bob Clapp believes those who hate anabolic steroids are a bunch of scrawny puritanical dimwits

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    Bob Clapp says his testicles are perfectly plump, thank you, and his wife of 44 years back in the kitchen is willing to attest that he is far from impotent.




    Retiree Bob Clapp at a recent body-building contest.





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    I won't make him verify testicular health because above and below those testes ripple the most chiseled, menacing muscles I have ever seen on anyone over 50.

    Bob Clapp is 66. The social security checks just started rolling in, and he's enjoying the senior-citizen discounts.

    He doesn't need the Medicare. Doctors tell him he has the health of a 30-year-old.

    I do ask if I may lop off his head, cryogenically freeze his body à la Ted Williams and put my head on his body when mine wears out in a couple years.

    No knockout punch comes. Lucky for me, he doesn't have 'roid rage.

    Indeed, in every mental and physical way, including a gorgeous mop of his own hair, Bob Clapp is the poster gramps for anabolic steroids.

    Clapp has used and advocated anabolic steroid use for 40 years.

    Part of that advocacy meant trafficking the stuff from Europe. In the early 1990s, Clapp was arrested for selling anabolic steroids as part of a massive steroid bust by local law enforcement. Clapp was released in 1997 after spending 22 months in federal prison.

    Now Clapp, a retired high school English teacher and coach in the Scottsdale school district, is back in his advocacy role.

    Government has no right to tell adults what they can or can't do with their own bodies, he argues, particularly when there is no scientific proof that what they do with their bodies is dangerous.

    He calls his libertarian philosophy "bodily sovereignty."

    And all this hand-wringing about steroids in baseball, he says, is nothing more than the hysteria of "puritanical Luddites."

    If you want to ban steroids, he argues, you should ban all modern performance enhancers. If you want Barry Bonds on a level playing field with Babe Ruth, you should also put him on a level playing field with Rogers Hornsby or, let's be really fair, Abner Doubleday.

    Hell, if you really want fair play, you should outlaw modern vitamins, modern weight rooms, modern fitness regimens, modern balls, modern ballparks and the modern habit of baseball players to abstain from booze, smokes and sex with prostitutes between innings.

    "This argument about a level playing field or the purity of the game' is absurd," Clapp growls from behind his writing desk at his home in north Phoenix. "If you're going to start rolling technology back, where do you stop?"

    You stop at anabolic steroids, we Luddites argue, because they're dangerous, and using them is an insidious form of cheating that forces non-cheaters to cheat so they can continue to play the game. Inevitably, it forces kids to blood-dope to keep up and fuels that oxymoronic modern American cultural phenomenon, Situational Ethics.

    At its heart, though, the issue is not about ethics. It is about health.

    And here, Bob Clapp, far beyond flaunting his own body, has a legitimate argument that the rage against the health impacts of 'roids on male athletes really may be unjustified hysteria.

    "There is absolutely no proof that anabolic steroids have negative long-term health effects to adult males," he says.

    He's right.

    Charles E. Yesalis, professor of health and human development at Penn State University, is arguably the nation's foremost expert on, and critic of, anabolic steroids. He has written three books on the subject, including a new book he co-authored, Performance Enhancing Substances in Sports and Exercise.

    "Amazingly," Yesalis told me, "there has been no credible study of the long-term health effects of anabolic steroid use."

    Although they appear to cause problems for women, he says, any evidence of long-term damage for men is "purely anecdotal right now."

    There are, however, several proven short-term effects, he says. He holds credence in studies showing short-term rise in aggressiveness and a profound decrease in the "good cholesterols" that keep humans from having heart attacks. Also, the liver seems to be hurt by pill forms of anabolic steroids.

    However, all those short-term side effects seem to disappear once a man stops using anabolic steroids.

    And most athletes only use steroids in short cycles and often suspend use once they step away from competition. Anabolic steroid users also can take a cocktail of growth hormones for a short time, bulk up, and quit and retain as much as 75 percent of the benefits.

    Legal drugs such as tobacco and alcohol are proven to be far more dangerous than anabolic steroids, Yesalis says.

    "You know, if my son came home and said, Dad, I'm either going to start smoking or I'm going to get on steroids,' I'd have to say I would hope he would choose steroids," he says.

    As far as we know, if used in recommended doses for limited periods of time, anabolic steroids are safe. And they better be, Yesalis says, "because we've been using the same drug in medicine for 65 years with no problems."

    "This may seem strange to you," he says, "but I can argue both sides of this issue with sincerity. It would be incorrect to say there is a final word on anabolic steroids."

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    I was going to mention Bob Clapp... He was in that Real Sports Steroid doc saying he had been on gear for over 40 years.

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    I'm sure he's been cycling for 40 years, I doubt he's been constantly ON for 40 years lol.

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    Hands down, it's crazy mike!!! WHERE YOU AT CRAZY MIKE???

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    405 or Lunk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck<
    Hands down, it's crazy mike!!! WHERE YOU AT CRAZY MIKE???
    Lol I'm with good luck on this one crazy mike come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aziz

    Lol I'm with good luck on this one crazy mike come out.
    Near good luck, but not with him - since you're sporting another zyzz avi lol. Even tho your name iz aziz zizzi fizz bizz nizz lizz jizz

    (just ribbin brah, having fun?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck< View Post
    Hands down, it's crazy mike!!! WHERE YOU AT CRAZY MIKE???
    Hey guys I'm back from doin arms and a side of chest, then 35 min on the bike, then 10 min tanning, and now I'm toast, no punn. Well I I'm doin good, but I had a break from aas for some different hard core sh*t. Now that took a toll so I had to get back with something that works better for keepin in shape. Now I'm OCD about training again and, well I'm on a long cycle here. what can I do ya guys ...crazy mike

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    Never seen that - 66 HOLLY SHIT!


    I doubt anyone can beat that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    I had a break from aas for some different hard core sh*t.

    How hard of shit? Either way man, you seem solid still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike

    Hey guys I'm back from doin arms and a side of chest, then 35 min on the bike, then 10 min tanning, and now I'm toast, no punn. Well I I'm doin good, but I had a break from aas for some different hard core sh*t. Now that took a toll so I had to get back with something that works better for keepin in shape. Now I'm OCD about training again and, well I'm on a long cycle here. what can I do ya guys ...crazy mike
    Sorry to hijack Samson hope we're still cool

    Mike, can you give us your experience with aas. When was the first cycle, age stats etc.... What compounds and doses back then and now, how many years training with and without gear, what effects if any did it have on your life after stopping(but it sounds like you had a different drug of choice for a while) and did you find yourself addicted to roids at any point?? Do you have low t now? Any long term effects???

    Your life experience is valuable to me and may have some value to other people, young and old, who come here to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    How hard of shit? Either way man, you seem solid still.
    It's embarrassing but lets just say it doesn't get any harder when your pinning your veins. One year ago 4 months after 11 days in the hospital, I came out in a wheel chair cause my body was so torn up from the shock of detox. I got back up in two weeks and leaned how to write again. That's all the talk of that. ...crazy sh*t

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    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck< View Post
    Sorry to hijack Samson hope we're still cool

    Mike, can you give us your experience with aas. When was the first cycle, age stats etc.... What compounds and doses back then and now, how many years training with and without gear, what effects if any did it have on your life after stopping(but it sounds like you had a different drug of choice for a while) and did you find yourself addicted to roids at any point?? Do you have low t now? Any long term effects???

    Your life experience is valuable to me and may have some value to other people, young and old, who come here to learn.
    Hey no problem I can and will but I've got to think about that to put it together. I trained for ten years, after 8 years of competitive water skiing. Stared to train to get stronger to achieve open class. I jumped into roids about a year n half after starting to lift. Gave up skiing quick, due to instant gratification with seeing some result on a thin ecto body.
    So I can just tel you right off that the stuff that was easy to get and everyone was doin was Test cyp. all I knew of in regard to test. Then dbol was in as a stack. Winni if you were going to show, but hard to get. I knew a vet doc so he would get me all the winstrol V i wanted and at the time I had big money. So I'll try to put it somewhat together. I opened a gym in south fla in 87" when I inherited some $475,000.00. things changed then. I'll put some time frames together and answer the best I can. ASAP tonight, OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike
    Hey no problem I can and will but I've got to think about that to put it together. I trained for ten years, after 8 years of competitive water skiing. Stared to train to get stronger to achieve open class. I jumped into roids about a year n half after starting to lift. Gave up skiing quick, due to instant gratification with seeing some result on a thin ecto body.
    So I can just tel you right off that the stuff that was easy to get and everyone was doin was Test cyp. all I knew of in regard to test. Then dbol was in as a stack. Winni if you were going to show, but hard to get. I knew a vet doc so he would get me all the winstrol V i wanted and at the time I had big money. So I'll try to put it somewhat together. I opened a gym in south fla in 87" when I inherited some $475,000.00. things changed then. I'll put some time frames together and answer the best I can. ASAP tonight, OK?
    Good things are worth waiting for! Thanks for the info thus far

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    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck< View Post
    Good things are worth waiting for! Thanks for the info thus far
    I'll make a quick statement that for me I KNOW IS TRUE, and I've seen allot of in my time back then at least and that is. Yep steroid are very much addictive, and they can F*CK with a person's head. Of course not all. But I've seen, I HAVE, seen people get physco and not just with a temper outburst at times, but get real sick in the head from large doses over time with no break, staying up on big loads, and with alcoh*l. They were dangerous. But prob not right to begin with. It did exasserbate the prob.

    I'll come back to your questions as I said later when I put it together. ...crazy mike
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    I found it.. the oldest juicer

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper View Post
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    He's got jokes. Lol


    Good question, I never get to ask the old schoolers at my gym this shit.

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    I honestly think that with today knowlegde of AAS (from you junkies, no help from our government), that people can cycle way up into thier golden years. I even think that older guys who used to cycle in ways that are frowned upon now can still recoup from years of "bad cycling". I mean, look at peptides alone! We have some to repair damage, lower cholesterol, increase muscularity, etc, etc, etc. I think it is getting safer by the year, and I see a "roid user" outliving a normal person anyday, as long as they are smart and knowledgeable about their own limitations and proper ancillaries.

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    I agree to a point. We are pumping foreign shit through our body. It can't be good. Right? Just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I agree to a point. We are pumping foreign shit through our body. It can't be good. Right? Just saying
    Well........Yes and no. Testosterone is as natural as apple pie for us guys. Nandrolone is as well. But to the doses used for cycling, not so much, but it isnt foreign. Tren, probably, but it is still all hormones. I am moreso saying that with the advancement of "cycle knowledge" that AAS users are learning, it is all getting much, much safer for the long term. Now UGL stuff might be foreign, no way to really know without alot of money or balls, but it is what I use Im just going to start brewing myself so that I can be sure of what I am getting and what doses I am taking. Having a trustworthy source is key here however, or you might just get sent cornstarch or something. Pharma would be great,and if it wasnt illegal here in the US, I guarantee you that science would be able to prove alot of stuff that is crap and provide the safest means of administration and ancillaries. We have Marcus for that, so were good.

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    Never knew about that bobb clapp guy. Its logical to think though, every action has a reaction. We cant expect to stay on a substance for a long time and have no long term side effects.

    I like what mikey is saying though, his story should be a sticky for everyone want to stay on aas long term, thats some scary shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    I honestly think that with today knowlegde of AAS (from you junkies, no help from our government), that people can cycle way up into thier golden years. I even think that older guys who used to cycle in ways that are frowned upon now can still recoup from years of "bad cycling". I mean, look at peptides alone! We have some to repair damage, lower cholesterol, increase muscularity, etc, etc, etc. I think it is getting safer by the year, and I see a "roid user" outliving a normal person anyday, as long as they are smart and knowledgeable about their own limitations and proper ancillaries.
    I agree with that. Maybe the big pro's knew about AI's and PCT but we didn't. WE were just f*kin crazy but a little scared at the same time. I think at these time it is so much safer as well as better. Guys got to be big pigs back then.

    Now for the question, did anyone find out "WHO IS THE OLDEST ON HERE"? I mean on this forum. I was going to ask a few weeks ago. ... mike

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    61?! Damn Mike.... impressive.... when I get to your age (if I get there)... fvck the gym.... I totally intend on having a 22 year old girlfriend and be living on a beach somewhere. Me, my 22 year old, and a case of Viagra or whatever good shit comes out by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    It's you ya old fvck!
    Haaaa, I was afraid if that. I have a hard time (no punn) at the gym because I forget and think I'm their age. Then I look at the old guys and think G*d that guy is old and he looks like sh*t. Then I'll ask then how old they are. Most are in their fifties or maybe if older, the only 63, not many at all. But I think man what the hell I must be blind at myself. So I don't know there is probably someone on here in their sixties. Maybe they just don't juice ? ...crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan68131 View Post
    61?! Damn Mike.... impressive.... when I get to your age (if I get there)... fvck the gym.... I totally intend on having a 22 year old girlfriend and be living on a beach somewhere. Me, my 22 year old, and a case of Viagra or whatever good shit comes out by then.

    Always good to have a goal!

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    Man I;m so glad I got on this forum. Sometimes I feel like the little kid because of my lack of knowledge of AI's and PCT sh*t. I also don't know who's who yet and think I don't fit, but I am , age wise out of the game. I try to be cool, and most of all humble. So let me tell you most all of you are real cool aand I look forward to getting on here every day. I think I have some friends that I can relate to n some things. My age people don't get me at all, but I don't get many of them. I get really physiced every day to go to the gym and train hard. I have learned to connect with the muscle I work and lift more concentrate on that targeted muscle. Arnold and Lee H. always talked about that muscle mind connection. So you guys do allot for me and I appreciate all the support. A little off the thread but. ...sincerely crazy mike

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    [QUOTE=boz;6394216]Never knew about that bobb clapp guy.

    I think he is related to Vee Dee

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    Interesting shit, for sure. I do wish we had a better understanding of what we are doing to ourselves in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >
    Interesting shit, for sure. I do wish we had a better understanding of what we are doing to ourselves in the long run.
    ^^^^ this! I still have faith the crazy mike will come back to finish the thought about his use over a period of time

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    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck< View Post
    ^^^^ this! I still have faith the crazy mike will come back to finish the thought about his use over a period of time
    Ok Here I am. I took to pencil and put together dates and what I used, and I didn't even realize the extent of it all. I wonder how I'm still here, but that holds true for all of what I was using. I will generalize on one thing. I am and addict of all substances. I was using ups, downs opiate, alcohol, and of course coca*ne, IV. So go figure, I think the gear kept me going and training and thus helped me to stay functioning. So here it is and the ending 2 years is very fogy.
    1880: started lifting not so serious
    1881: Ist non serious cycle 100 mg test cyp ew, for 8 wk
    1882: nothing, skiing for SE Regional’s and lifting. FYI: I placed 2nd in men two class / trick skiing.
    1983: 2nd cycle 200mg test ew, Winstrol 100mg ed inject 12 wks
    1984: 3rd test 200mg ek, 50 dbol ed, 100 mg Winstrol 6 months cycle I was on Corporate board Fortune 500 co. While traveling 6 states and trained in every city that I was in and met Lee H, Frank Zane, and a few other Mr. Olympia guys.
    1885 -86' : test 400mg ew, doll 50mg ed, deca 200mg ew Winstrol 100mg ed never came down for a year only cut out every thing but Winstrol for the Daytona classic 5th place middle weight and Gainesville BB Show no placement.
    1987 : test 200mg wk and Winstrol 100mg ed inconstantly thronging in doll 50 mg ed but there was no cycling just in out in out, on off. Things now stated to get REAL crazy between all the other sh*t and my bi-polar. Jails and institutions on and off, no prison, no jail sentences.
    1988-89': no cycling just use and abuse of test and Winstrol. Test was Phar/ Test was running ramped in south FL. My Vet Doc was having all the Winstrol I wanted mailed to my house. So I was always playing with that.
    1990 : No aas just hard core dr*gs, coke, Horse, oxy, downs, morph as well as my bi-polar. Lost my gym in South Fl. "Coastal Fitness” Coral Springs and Margate Fl.
    Now I knew nothing of PCT, AI's so never included anything like that. You can see it was just as irresponsible as it gets. I have some little gym and now with age and some aas it has increased but get by, livable. My blood wk comes out good, heart rate great, BP is very good. I have some bad arthritis, both Osteo, rheumatoid, and bursitis in my left hip. A not so good but ok knee, and a rotary cuff problem. I am on prednisone, and I get hsots in my hands and my hip.
    I am doing better now then in the last 20yrs, at the gym I lose total site at my age but have to remember to be Fuvckin careful. I have Hep C and I’m just fine, no BW problems. I’m using Liquidex and am doing well.

    On another not, my wife doesn’t support this but I made a decision two days ago. When all these people don’t understand why I’m doing this and when I tell then, “Gotta run I have to train”...huh?? What are you training for? So I decided to TRY don’t laugh, to train for a small show in three or maybe two years in OVER FIFTY class. CL just thinks I’m stupid and others laugh. But I gotta have a goal and being competitive with everything, I have to be in a training mode.

    I seem to be just fine and my doc say other than my Test level, haaa and my E2 I’m just fine.

    I really hope this is what you guys wanted me to tell. Now you see a bit of …crazy mike\
    Please I don’t need any sh*t about how irresponsible it was. …crazy mike
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    Thank u for the timeline. Seems that you wear a very mild juice user. No high doses that I seen anywhere, just somewhat of a prolonged user.

    The rec drugs are a bitch to some of us. Me being one, I have moved away from 95% of all heavy drugs. The only one that got me back was the w**d. < damn stress of life.


    Good info though for sure man! Keep at it, one way or another you are in very very good shape for anyone over 40. Shit better than some 20-30 year olds I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Thank u for the timeline. Seems that you wear a very mild juice user. No high doses that I seen anywhere, just somewhat of a prolonged user.

    The rec drugs are a bitch to some of us. Me being one, I have moved away from 95% of all heavy drugs. The only one that got me back was the w**d. < damn stress of life.


    Good info though for sure man! Keep at it, one way or another you are in very very good shape for anyone over 40. Shit better than some 20-30 year olds I see.
    Thanks.I am aware of the , good for my age, but i gotta tell you, for me, well, Thank you and guys, but crap I want to get big and bigger, and awesome defined connection from muscle to muscle. I hate the saying Ripped. That's if your in a tank or shirtless. People used to notice when I was fully clothed. So sadly I am 61yrs and don't have a clue what I can do at this age. I know that the roids are not half as effective at my age. I will ADMIT, I am addicted now to AAS. The most damage I see, but this is very early is my temper and the bi-polar issue. It is a bitch and my wife and I work on it or on me with it. Again I have gotten a few compliments and It is so inspiring and I pray no one is just trying to made the poor old guy feel good. Most of you here are kind hearted.Only been back 6 months. Thx ...crazy mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    Thanks.I am aware of the , good for my age, but i gotta tell you, for me, well, Thank you and guys, but crap I want to get big and bigger, and awesome defined connection from muscle to muscle. I hate the saying Ripped. That's if your in a tank or shirtless. People used to notice when I was fully clothed. So sadly I am 61yrs and don't have a clue what I can do at this age. I know that the roids are not half as effective at my age. I will ADMIT, I am addicted now to AAS. The most damage I see, but this is very early is my temper and the bi-polar issue. It is a bitch and my wife and I work on it or on me with it. Again I have gotten a few compliments and It is so inspiring and I pray no one is just trying to made the poor old guy feel good. Most of you here are kind hearted.Only been back 6 months. Thx ...crazy mike
    Mike, I just want to say thanks for sharing your experience with us here on the board. Its obvious that steroid use was much different back in the day and now it seems to be much more hard-core. I think if you can manage to keep your bi-polar in check and your relationship in tact, you'll have a good shot at the over 50 comp. I look forward to following your progress on this journey. you seem like a smart man and obviously have much more life experience than all of us, so it's hard to even attempt to give someone like you advice...but I will try ONE small piece, and I hope you can view it with an open mind... I have some experience with people with addiction, and with various other mental health issues- addressed and not addressed. it seems you have a good grasp on your situation and are aware of your circumstances, however I am slightly concerned about one comment...you've suggested that your addicted to the AAS and it is effecting your temper and your bi-polar condition... it seems to me you have an amazing, loving, caring and most of all- understanding wife... If it were me, i'd make sure in every instance that she is feeling safe and secure and loved. no physical self gratification would be worth losing someone like that over and im sure you know this. I would say you should make a log including your daily emotions and how they change throughout a day, week, moth...whatever...and if any really alarming patterns should show up, I trust you are wise enough to take a step back and recognize that as an addict, maybe a decision needs to be made...IMO, you are much healthier now than you were at one point, but my experience with addiction and mental health tells me that "better" does not mean "healed" and the disease of addiction is never gone, but only supressed....it's not always easy to accept, but with your experience im sure it is easier to recognize the bad pattern before it gets to late.

    Again crazy mike, thanks for sharing your experience and please understand that im not trying to tell you what to do in any way, only sharing my concern for a guy I have a new found respect for... cheers brother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck<;639***8
    Mike, I just want to say thanks for sharing your experience with us here on the board. Its obvious that steroid use was much different back in the day and now it seems to be much more hard-core. I think if you can manage to keep your bi-polar in check and your relationship in tact, you'll have a good shot at the over 50 comp. I look forward to following your progress on this journey. you seem like a smart man and obviously have much more life experience than all of us, so it's hard to even attempt to give someone like you advice...but I will try ONE small piece, and I hope you can view it with an open mind... I have some experience with people with addiction, and with various other mental health issues- addressed and not addressed. it seems you have a good grasp on your situation and are aware of your circumstances, however I am slightly concerned about one comment...you've suggested that your addicted to the AAS and it is effecting your temper and your bi-polar condition... it seems to me you have an amazing, loving, caring and most of all- understanding wife... If it were me, i'd make sure in every instance that she is feeling safe and secure and loved. no physical self gratification would be worth losing someone like that over and im sure you know this. I would say you should make a log including your daily emotions and how they change throughout a day, week, moth...whatever...and if any really alarming patterns should show up, I trust you are wise enough to take a step back and recognize that as an addict, maybe a decision needs to be made...IMO, you are much healthier now than you were at one point, but my experience with addiction and mental health tells me that "better" does not mean "healed" and the disease of addiction is never gone, but only supressed....it's not always easy to accept, but with your experience im sure it is easier to recognize the bad pattern before it gets to late.

    Again crazy mike, thanks for sharing your experience and please understand that im not trying to tell you what to do in any way, only sharing my concern for a guy I have a new found respect for... cheers brother!
    Wow,very cool comment as well as compliment. I will tel you that you're right on with all of what you have said and as for advice, it sound better as a suggestion. A suggestion is an idea you share and advice is you telling me the appropriate action to take. And someone might not know what is appropriate. ..ha, just thought i would let you know for future reference. Sorry I can get quite technical with semantics. Any your idea is a great one, laziness get in the way. But good for you to tell me and I should really not yes you but do it.

    Problem with a show is most of these guys didn't take off for 20 plus years and some are big. Got a long time to work on it. I'm thinking of using the forum as a place I can get thought and opinions as to my progress. Thanks ...crazy mike

    PS: you can't see yourself in the mirror like others do and can critique

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    I know this is an old thread, but being what it is I'd like to ask the question now again since we have had new members come in and I think someone in the 60's range. I don't know if he's still on board or if he has done any JUICE, haha

    So for those who don't know I'm 61 yrs. old and started aas in the early 80's. Any one close or maybe older now. Thanks. ....crazy mike

    Is there a way we have any records...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    There are a few guys @ my gym that are well over 60 and look way solid. Talked to one who was in better shape than me(or at least the same) HE WAS 64 GOING ON 65! He had to be on stuff, I wanted to ask but it just wasn't the time.
    There are several older guys at the gym I attend they are in phenomenal shape. One guy has to over 65. He is always picking up women in their 20’s and 30’s. He looks better than a lot of the guys in their 30. He can still put up 315 for reps. Everyone always talks about how when he was younger he could bench over 500 for reps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    I know this is an old thread, but being what it is I'd like to ask the question now again since we have had new members come in and I think someone in the 60's range. I don't know if he's still on board or if he has done any JUICE, haha

    So for those who don't know I'm 61 yrs. old and started aas in the early 80's. Any one close or maybe older now. Thanks. ....crazy mike

    Is there a way we have any records...?
    I'm close Mike at 58. Not done too many cycles but I am sure I can tell you about them later ... late here and off to bed for now!!

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