Here are my BW results from a few days ago

**crazy mike** · 03-08-2013, 11:18 PM

I got much better results this time around and it appears to me I'm getting my E2 in some order. It was triple.
Just FYI and for any comments.

I am currently cycling now and cruseing thru this surgery/ recovery period for the next 4-5 week on a timeless long term cycle. That's what I choose to do at my age and status in my
life. After my recovery and back to training I am planning a big bulk cycle with some know to be bulking and strenth compounds and a strong underlying test compound. Particulars not final decisions yet.
So these are my current lab results and if you have some input as to where and what result I need to work on to better please fill me in.
supertest 450 @ 200 mg wk
Deca 100 mg wk ? ? 200mg
Winstrol 50 mg ED
Liquidex .30 ed

result units range
Total test 1819.8 ng/dL 348.0 - 1197.0
Free test >53.0 pg/nL 6.6-18.1
Estradiol 66.1 pg/nL 7.6 - 42.6 sensitive assay

Vit D,25 hydroxy 40.9 ng/mL 30.0-100.0
Phosphous, Serum 2.8 mg/dL 2.5-4.5
Calcium, Iron, Serum 6.1 mg/dL 4.5-5.6
PTH, Intact 57 pg/mL 15-65

Any comments ...crazy mike

**Vettester** · 03-09-2013, 12:09 AM

Mike, presuming your supertest is 450mg/ml, correct? If so, can you clarify that you're injecting slightly less than 1/2cc (1/2cc being 225mg)?

100mg of deca wouldn't do much for anabolic purposes, but some like the smaller dosages for some joint relief. I'd still keep a little dopamine agonist like caber or prami around just in case you see some prolactin sides.

Can't see any benefit with taking Winstrol every week. Quite short on half life. Hopefully liquid?

Sounds like your E2 is coming down nicely. Somewhere in the 20pg to 35pg/nl range should be ideal. Keep an eye on this. It was triple and now down to 66pg. That amount of AI could easily put you on a course to crash, which is NO FUN! I tell HRT members to avoid going over 1.5mg of Adex per week. Even that amount should only be short-term and monitored closely. Again, I'm curious about the dosage on the test, because you could possibly explore injecting 2x per week to reduce the spikes, thus reducing a lot of the conversion downstream to E2. Many of us on the HRT side have been able to cut out AI's all together (including myself) with going 2x per week via sub Q. Although the dosages are usually 100mg-120mg/wk with cypionate , but most are also on a protocol of HCG .

Lastly, it won't hurt to get your vitamin D up in the 60' or 70's. Not sure how much your taking, but 5,000iu to 10,000iu/day would be advisable. There's a real nifty script through the doctor, called Drisdol, which is a 50,000iu capsule per week. Mine was in the tank, and up in the 70's in no time.

Any other labs? Lipids, CBC's, metabolic? Thyroid doing OK?

**crazy mike** · 03-09-2013, 12:35 AM

Sh!T, I just typed a whole responce to you and it went gone up and away.

So the winstrol was in error. It's one of my old good ones. It's always been ED. my mistake. I was at 50mg an was thinking of lowering it to 25mg. Hold on to that thought. I was on the deca 200mg wk and the test 450 at 450mg. wk. Now the plan changed due to the hernia operation and 4 week of recovery. So I was going to lower to deca 100mg and test to less then 1/2 cc 200 mg wk. Remember this is to just stay up for 4 week in recovery. In my life I have no reason to come all the way down only to start back so soon. This is my way for now, the staying up during time off in recovery. All the other BW comments are right on as to what I needed to hear. Thanks for catching my error....cm

**crazy mike** · 03-09-2013, 12:40 AM

quote : Any other labs? Lipids, CBC's, metabolic? Thyroid doing OK? the answer is yes, very good ...crazy mike

**Vettester** · 03-09-2013, 01:04 AM

OK, it sounds like you are just doing the cruise with the 200mg/wk. Try breaking it up into 2x week (100mg x2). You might feel a little more stable going that route, and your E2 should be more managemable as well.

So, you're saying that you normally do the increased levels all the time, year round? Any problems with prolactin? No hematocrit, RBC or Lipid issus?

**crazy mike** · 03-09-2013, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Vettester

OK, it sounds like you are just doing the cruise with the 200mg/wk. Try breaking it up into 2x week (100mg x2). You might feel a little more stable going that route, and your E2 should be more managemable as well.

So, you're saying that you normally do the increased levels all the time, year round? Any problems with prolactin? No hematocrit, RBC or Lipid issus?

I have prolactin problems in the acutual side effect, cant come. But the level is in the normal range. WE know what that means. I have a problem anyway. Erections are GREAT! but I've been on Psychotropics for so many years It's been a rough going. Couldn't get erections until I started back with the gear. Caber is too much money for me, exspensive sh!t. My wife is aging and so , get the guest of that, long time.That's that on that. No other issues on BW. !! As I said, I just got back 5-6 months and have been going strong, unbelievable gains (muscle tissue memory) and correct use of AAS. So I will not stop for the four week come all the way down and start up and wait 4-5 more week to get it going again. I'll take your suggestions. You the only one I think that hasn't though I was out of line with this thinking....cm

**Vettester** · 03-09-2013, 04:49 PM

Mike, that side happened to me the first time I ever took deca . Even though the lab assays show "normal", the Nor19 compounds will play all sorts of games with you like that. To boot, that issue can hang around for a long time if not dealt with (months & months ...).

There's a very reliable online pharmacy out of India that many of us on the HRT side use, where you can get Caber for ridiculous low prices. I'll send you a quick PM. .25mg to .50mg per week should get you back on track in no time.

**crazy mike** · 03-09-2013, 05:36 PM

Quoting you "Lastly, it won't hurt to get your vitamin D up in the 60' or 70's. Not sure how much your taking, but 5,000iu to 10,000iu/day would be advisable.

I got some vit D3 2000 IU ea and i will supplement as you are. Thanks for the tip on that. I'm also looking int the Caber for the prolcatin. I would just freak it it helped. I mean, nuts O. It has been a very long time. nuff on that subject. ...crazy old mike