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I'm just curious what everyones original goals were when you started your first cycle.
And where are you now?
So what was your stats before your first cycle , after , yours stats now and roughly how many years n cycles you have under your belt.
The main idea here is to get a consensus on what you were before you started and now. And how your goals have changed as you've progressed over the years.
i still have not cycled but my original goal when coming to this site was to get my bf% below 12%.. i accomplished this goal and then some! :)
beginning stats:
213lbs 26.6%bf 5'9"
now 205lbs 12%bf 5'9"
best stats: 188lbs 9.3%bf 5'9"
Starting goal was to get massive as fast as possible. Wasn't thinking of stats back then. Today the goal is 230 lbs @ 10%.
First cycle stats would be a total guess for me, been way too long. Probably 165-ish and 9% BF? Today I'm just over 220 @ 12%.
No idea how many cycles. First cycle was 17 years ago. But I've come off for a year or more during those times, more than once. At one point I did reach the 240+ lbs at 16-18% BF.
No more "Bulking Cycles" for me. And no more Long esters either. I'm taking the rest of this year off, but after that I'll be running 6 week cycles at maintenance (or a hair above) or cut. I'll never eat 1000 calories over tdee again, ever.
Goals changed of course. Life events, experience, etc... all of that altered my vision of where I need to be. Too many goals to list. It's only this year that I decided to drop all heavy bulking diets and long estered compounds.
since i havent ever cycled and about to do one, how bout some insight on the long ester and bulking and why not?? i am planning a test cyp bulking cycle in a month or 2? :scratch:
as far as "bulking" i figured to run cals fairly close to 3000, i havent gotten into detail completely yet, but would NEVER consider 1000cals above maintenance EVER!!
I think mainly my last cycle beat the crap out of me. I want to get in and out quick. Nothing wrong with long esters, don't get me wrong, they worked fine for me in the past. The more long cycles that I do the less motivated I get for some reason to run another.Quote:
Originally Posted by --->>405<<---
High doses, short esters is what I'll be doing in 2014. Instead of 2 cycles a year I'll be doing 3 to 4.
As for calories, 1000 over was no fun on the old gut. But you won't even see me go 500 over going forward. If I come close I'll be burning them before I sleep.
Thanks Austinite that's exactly the response I was hoping for. 165ish - 230lbs that's awesome
405 since you haven't cycled yet I can't wait to see/ hear how things turn out for ya.
Thanks Gentlemen for your responses looking forward to hearing from other members.