Crazy how Letro users administer these massive doses...

**austinite** · 08-02-2013, 02:16 PM

I did a short experiment recently when my E2 came back at 46 pg/mL (Range < 29). This result came about on July 2nd. I had a Letro prescription laying around and figured I'd give it a go. It's been so long since I've used Letro so I sort of forgot how powerful this fṳcker is.

I administered 100 mcg. (Micrograms) daily. After the 10th day I felt miserable and so I discontinued use. One week after I stopped, I tested E2 again and it came back 2 pg/mL. Really amazes that some folks are running this thing using milligram after milligram several times per week. And these "Gynecomastia Reversal" threads using these astronomical doses are just absurd. Pretty eye opening once again. Anyway, I'll wait a while and get back on DIM.

Watch those Letro doses!

**Cuz** · 08-02-2013, 03:10 PM

so what would you say do, start at 25 mcg and get BW and move up from there?

**austinite** · 08-02-2013, 03:11 PM

^ I would use more manageable compounds, like Arimidex and Aromasin . But 25mcg would certainly have been a better dose for me in that short run.

**jasc** · 08-02-2013, 05:38 PM

I agree

The people claiming these ridiculous doses either have crappy research chems or bunk "pharmacy grade".

I've seen guys in the Q&A claiming 1-2.5mg per day and that's just ridiculous. If it were quality they'd be bottomed out and feel like hell in days.

**ChiveOn** · 08-02-2013, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by jasc

I agree

The people claiming these ridiculous doses either have crappy research chems or bunk "pharmacy grade".

I've seen guys in the Q&A claiming 1-2.5mg per day and that's just ridiculous. If it were quality they'd be bottomed out and feel like hell in days.

It's interesting to see this. It's preached pretty solidly both ways here. And a lot of people follow the C-Bino protocol. If its truly garbage we should eliminate it and stop it from being recommended to people.
I was taking 2.5mg of Letro daily from AR-R for a bit over a month trying to get rid of some very minor gyno. And ill tell you I didn't want to do anything but lay in bed...

**jasc** · 08-02-2013, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by ChiveOn

It's interesting to see this. It's preached pretty solidly both ways here. And a lot of people follow the C-Bino protocol. If its truly garbage we should eliminate it and stop it from being recommended to people.
I was taking 2.5mg of Letro daily from AR-R for a bit over a month trying to get rid of some very minor gyno. And ill tell you I didn't want to do anything but lay in bed...

I've never battled gyno so I can't really speak to that from experience. I see the need for bottoming out E2, but IMO even for gyno reversal 2.5mg/day is excessive.

Looking at Aus's bloodwork, 100mcg/day would have been sufficient for gyno reversal, atleast in his case. A couple years back I used letro at 1mg/week and crashed hard rather quickly.

Although I never knew CBino he was well respected around here and I'm sure his method does help some, but as with everything in this game we are constantly learning and changing our ways in hopes of better results. His sticky is rather old and just like some of the old PCT stickies they could probably benefit from an update.

**ChiveOn** · 08-02-2013, 06:49 PM

It took about 5-6weeks to see improvement at that dose and it was certainly miserable for me. I'm still recovering from it, and I've been done almost a week.

If I run into an issue again I will 100% be trying Ralox instead

**austinite** · 08-04-2013, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by jasc

I've never battled gyno so I can't really speak to that from experience. I see the need for bottoming out E2, but IMO even for gyno reversal 2.5mg/day is excessive.

Looking at Aus's bloodwork, 100mcg/day would have been sufficient for gyno reversal, atleast in his case. A couple years back I used letro at 1mg/week and crashed hard rather quickly.

Although I never knew CBino he was well respected around here and I'm sure his method does help some, but as with everything in this game we are constantly learning and changing our ways in hopes of better results. His sticky is rather old and just like some of the old PCT stickies they could probably benefit from an update.

Agreed. Certainly some old school info in some threads.

**boz** · 08-04-2013, 02:25 AM

What r u on atm aus for your e2 to rise higher above ranges?

**austinite** · 08-04-2013, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by boz

What r u on atm aus for your e2 to rise higher above ranges?

Just my TRT protocol. I increased my deca dose and went back to IM instead of SubQ. That's the only thing I can think of.

**ironbeck** · 08-04-2013, 05:27 AM

I totally bro, Letro is imo to be used by the experienced and those who are running HIGH blast amounts. I use it and it works for me, the bitch is getting it from different sources, that's when you can really tell the difference because I swear nobody makes it the same streghth no matter what the bottle says. Onced you have your amounts(respectively) dialed in for your specific usage do not change sources or you will have to start over and yes having your e2 crash is a bitch.