Donating Blood

[Lipid]

Well ive been reading up you need to donate blood due to increase in RBC, Hemoglobin due to excessive tissue being built means more oxygen needed = higher RBC

...Although your body doesnt just produce extra RBC and disrupt homeostasis for no reason, it must have REASONS to do this therefore by donating the extra RBC isnt it counterproductive as the reason its produced is to supply extra oxygen and nutrients to the muscle? Wouldnt it just rebound extremely fast and get back to basepoint <1 week after your blood donation?

Just curious to see answers, always interested in these stuff )

[Shol'va]

Good question. All I know is that since donating every other month, my count is staying well within normal parameters. So it does work for me. Before donating, my blood was so thick I was in danger of a stroke or even heart attack. If left untreated, your blood can get so thick it actually clots in the veins and arteries causing blood blockage, thereby either chocking off blood to your brain or other vital organs making your either an invalid or dead. So it's a very very important issue to stay on top of. IMO

[bass]

its not so much the RBC, Hematocrit is the one you need to watch. danger level is 55% and higher.

[Hazard]

Donating one time won't help...... It needs to be done frequently. As per my fathers hrt doc

[Juced_porkchop]

I never have and my bloods are fine. but i also dont eat meat for over 8 years now. I think extra iron/rbc and hemo can be an issue for many it seems. keep eye on it. my last test came back good. I don't like taking out my blood even for tests... just me..

[austinite]

Well ive been reading up you need to donate blood due to increase in RBC, Hemoglobin due to excessive tissue being built means more oxygen needed = higher RBC

...Although your body doesnt just produce extra RBC and disrupt homeostasis for no reason, it must have REASONS to do this therefore by donating the extra RBC isnt it counterproductive as the reason its produced is to supply extra oxygen and nutrients to the muscle? Wouldnt it just rebound extremely fast and get back to basepoint <1 week after your blood donation?

Just curious to see answers, always interested in these stuff )

All explained here...

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...od-counts.html

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I never have and my bloods are fine. but i also dont eat meat for over 8 years now. I think extra iron/rbc and hemo can be an issue for many it seems. keep eye on it. my last test came back good. I don't like taking out my blood even for tests... just me..

yeh me 2. im on TRT and was aware of monitoring hemotocrit since starting but in 2 years my hemotocrit levels have not gone up.. ive been ready to give blood but my doc (who also knows ab out giving blood) said there was no need. so maybe some people dont have to donate blood...?

oh and i eat a shitload of meat.. like 2-3lbs per day..

[austinite]

yeh me 2. im on TRT and was aware of monitoring hemotocrit since starting but in 2 years my hemotocrit levels have not gone up.. ive been ready to give blood but my doc (who also knows ab out giving blood) said there was no need. so maybe some people dont have to donate blood...?

oh and i eat a shitload of meat.. like 2-3lbs per day..

This is dose dependant and individualistic. Once you start cycling, your HCT will most certainly go up. The older we get, the more impact it has. The more you inject, the more hepcidin is suppressed. Also, if you're a healthy non-smoker, don't have sleep apnea and don't live in high altitude areas, you're at far less risk; as Oxygen deprivation coupled with Hepcidin suppression amplifies RBC production.

Read that link, it explains it all.

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Read that link, it explains it all.

yeh actually i read it earlier before posting in here. very good! you are such a nerd

[austinite]

yeh actually i read it earlier before posting in here. very good! you are such a nerd

Agree

[DexterMorgan]

Even after donating mid-cycle my RBC was high right after the cycle. So I had to donate again.

[austinite]

Even after donating mid-cycle my RBC was high right after the cycle. So I had to donate again.

Hydration can be tricky at times. You could be dehydrated today and have a reading of 52%, then hydrate and have a reading of 49% tomorrow. Either way, never hurts to donate. On average, a donation mid-cycle should suffice, unless you're running vile garbage such as EQ.

[kelkel]

Just donated this morning actually. Every 53 days! They send me certificates in the mail that I'm such a good guy! Well, per them....

[austinite]

Just donated this morning actually. Every 53 days! They send me certificates in the mail that I'm such a good guy! Well, per them....

Do they just throw a needle from 6 feet away at you? Surely it would result in a venipuncture.

[kelkel]

Do they just throw a needle from 6 feet away at you? Surely it would result in a venipuncture.

Funny you say that. EVERY time they do something different. Usually they ask if one of their trainees or admin can do it as they need to keep up certs. Today they brought over a trainee as asked if they could literally "feel" my veins. So, the trainee went to town "feeling" while the supervisor explained which vein was best to use. I offered a quad vein. If she was better looking I would have altered that a little....

[austinite]

Funny you say that. EVERY time they do something different. Usually they ask if one of their trainees or admin can do it as they need to keep up certs. Today they brought over a trainee as asked if they could literally "feel" my veins. So, the trainee went to town "feeling" while the supervisor explained which vein was best to use. I offered a quad vein. If she was better looking I would have altered that a little....

LOL! I love it. Curious though, how long did this "Feeling your veins" last? I would think longer than 60 seconds could be considered sexual harassment.

[kelkel]

LOL! I love it. Curious though, how long did this "Feeling your veins" last? I would think longer than 60 seconds could be considered sexual harassment.

That all depends on the appearance of the "feeler" in my opinion. Couple minutes, on and off.

[Hazard]

Funny you say that. EVERY time they do something different. Usually they ask if one of their trainees or admin can do it as they need to keep up certs. Today they brought over a trainee as asked if they could literally "feel" my veins. So, the trainee went to town "feeling" while the supervisor explained which vein was best to use. I offered a quad vein. If she was better looking I would have altered that a little....

Lmfao!

They did that to my father. He let the trainee stick him. One time we donated together and the woman goes "we can get two pints from you guys" bahahahaha

I hate the questionnaires tho. Asking about aas and hgh...... Like these people don't know?

[kelkel]

Yep. Very redundant. Ought to be a way to expedite it if you donate regularly. I always laugh at the one question, something to the effect of: "Have you currently or in the past been paid for sex?" Well, no. But I'd like to be.

[bass]

yeh actually i read it earlier before posting in here. very good! you are such a nerd

what's worse I keep picturing his face looking like the model in his avis! not a pretty picture, on a gal yea, but not on a guy... especially a guy from Texas.

[austinite]

what's worse I keep picturing his face looking like the model in his avis! not a pretty picture, on a gal yea, but not on a guy... especially a guy from Texas.

Hook'em Horns.

[bass]

the image in my mind just got worse. LOL!

[Lipid]

Another question, As hormones disturb the hypothalmus, does steroids have an impact on Thyroid? as im on cycle right now i feel like my heart is a bit faster, burning fat whilst at maintanence/little surplus and body FEELS hotter but temperature is same as always.

[bass]

heart beating faster doesn't mean its a good thing, and it doesn't mean you're burning more fat. I don't think steroids effect thyroid.

[Lipid]

heart beating faster doesn't mean its a good thing, and it doesn't mean you're burning more fat. I don't think steroids effect thyroid.

my BP is around 110/60 but my BPM is around 90-105. hmm...

[bass]

is this your resting rate? like I said if steroids made your heartbeat go faster it doesn't mean you're burning more fat, fat is burned when you're doing something physical, your heart rate goes sup because of it not the other way around.

[Lipid]

is this your resting rate? like I said if steroids made your heartbeat go faster it doesn't mean you're burning more fat, fat is burned when you're doing something physical, your heart rate goes sup because of it not the other way around.

I worded it very incorrectly i meant would steroids effect your thyroid which would mean a more active thyroid and when your thyroid is more active your RHR raises.

Yes that is my RHR.

[bass]

depends on how much steroids and how long I guess anything is possible, but as far as I know steroids don't effect thyroid.

[Lipid]

depends on how much steroids and how long I guess anything is possible, but as far as I know steroids don't effect thyroid.

Any tips on bringing down RHR? 100 is mild tachycardia so hopeuflly to 80 where it was pre cycle.

[bass]

one thing that made my heart beat faster was thickening of the blood, how long you been on this cycle and have you checked your RBC, Hemoglobin and Hematocrit lately? if these levels are high simply go and donate blood to bring all these values down to normal range, and it might help reduce your heartbeat rate.

for whatever its worth, my thyroid pre TRT was underactive, and now while on TRT is much better, my levels pre TRT were like 3.5-4 and now they're about 1.9-2.3 on scale 0.5-4.5. granted i supplemented with iodine for one month more than a year ago, but TSH has been very consistent. my point is steroids could help improve thyroid but not sure about cycle does though!

[Lipid]

one thing that made my heart beat faster was thickening of the blood, how long you been on this cycle and have you checked your RBC, Hemoglobin and Hematocrit lately? if these levels are high simply go and donate blood to bring all these values down to normal range, and it might help reduce your heartbeat rate.

for whatever its worth, my thyroid pre TRT was underactive, and now while on TRT is much better, my levels pre TRT were like 3.5-4 and now they're about 1.9-2.3 on scale 0.5-4.5. granted i supplemented with iodine for one month more than a year ago, but TSH has been very consistent. my point is steroids could help improve thyroid but not sure about cycle does though!

This is my 2nd week in my first cycle nearing 3rd. My RBC and hemo pre cycle bloodwork was all in range, hematocrit was not tested, should I go give blood?
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[bass]

probably too soon for any side to occur, it could be anything really, maybe diet, not sleeping well. just keep an eye on it, it should get better as your body is adjusting, if not then re-evaluate.

[Lipid]

probably too soon for any side to occur, it could be anything really, maybe diet, not sleeping well. just keep an eye on it, it should get better as your body is adjusting, if not then re-evaluate.

Got be a bit worried now, lol chances of a stroke/heart attack from mild tachycardia? On prop 150mg eod adding 100mg masteron Eod in few weeks

[Bonaparte]

Tachycardia won't cause a heart attack or stroke. That would be from atrial fibrillation and/or hypertension and arterial disease
(and you don't need to worry just yet).
Androgens themselves increase basal metabolism.

[Rusty11]

Once Hostess went out of business, I quit donating. Screw 'Little Debbies' cupcakes.

[Lipid]

Tachycardia won't cause a heart attack or stroke. That would be from atrial fibrillation and/or hypertension and arterial disease
(and you don't need to worry just yet).
Androgens themselves increase basal metabolism.

Thanks bruz, thats what i wanted to know.

[Bedford]

I donated on Saturday - was feeling a tiny bit rundown coming into the 6th week of a cycle. Had a great workout on Sunday & feel even better today.

Giving blood makes me feel good in more ways than one -