Shotgunning Steroid Dosages

[brazuka]

Anabolic Threshold! - YouTube

Has anybody experimented with shooting up your weekly dosage into one shot rather than splitting them up for example 500mg test enanthate every monday compared to 250 every 3.5 days... Interested in hearing your experiances! Thanks

[knuckles69]

Very interesting. Can't wait for a vet to chime in

[Lunk1]

I have done similar with prop. Injecting 2X week vs EOD and I can tell you that I noticed the peaks and valleys in my blood levels. This is why most ppl even split up their TRT doses. It's no fun feeling the ups and downs. Besides staying stable will lend to having better results.

[evander87]

I used to fire off 500 mg of Test e a week. I noticed I had worse acne than I do with shooting twice a week. Other than that I didn't have any noticeable sides.

[knuckles69]

I have done similar with prop. Injecting 2X week vs EOD and I can tell you that I noticed the peaks and valleys in my blood levels. This is why most ppl even split up their TRT doses. It's no fun feeling the ups and downs. Besides staying stable will lend to having better results.

But the lad is talking about long esters, I can see the theory behind it. Once it starts tapering down from the long ester you whack in another huge dose. I'm very curious

[austinite]

Funny ester pronunciations.

This is one of the few guys on youtube that I like to view. But in this case, he's wrong. He's not taking metabolism into account. This spike in serum he's talking about is accurate, but it's just that... a spike. So initial stages might be effective (although certainly not with a 600mg shot of deca ), but the compounding effect of multiple doses is very easily observed and superior over time. Blood levels stability is not a myth, there's far too much data available to think otherwise.

I inject deca once per week, but certainly not when I'm blasting through TRT.

Let's take a look, assuming a half life of 6 days...

Injecting 600mg on once per week:

(600 / 2 = 300) / 6 = 50 mg metabolized daily for 6 days.

Day 1: 50 mg
Day 2: 50 mg
Day 3: 50 mg
Day 4: 50 mg
Day 5: 50 mg
Day 6: 50 mg

Now the half life is reached, so we do the same math for the remaining 300 mg. (300 / 2 = 150) / 6 = 25 mg

Day 7: 25 mg

That's 7 days, according to the video, we would inject another 600 mg on day 8.

Day 8: 25 mg + 50 mg = 75 mg
Day 9: 25 mg + 50 mg = 75 mg
Day 10: 25 mg + 50 mg = 75 mg
Day 11: 25 mg + 50 mg = 75 mg
Day 12: 25 mg + 50 mg = 75 mg

Now the second half life of the initial injection is cut in half, so (150 / 2 = 75 ) / 6 = 12.5 mg

Day 13: 12.5 mg + 50 mg = 62.5 mg

Now the half life of the Second injection is reached, so we do the same math for the remaining 300 mg. (300 / 2 = 150) / 6 = 25 mg

Day 14: 12.5 mg + 25 mg = 37.5

Let's stop here and do some math.. Add up week 1 (days 1 to 7), you get 325 mg total metabolized that week.

Week 2, we got a total of 475 mg total metabolized.

So in 2 weeks, we metabolized a total of 800 mg out of 2 shots of 600 each.

Injecting 300mg every 3.5 days:

(300 / 2 = 150) / 6 = 25 mg metabolized daily for 6 days.

Day 1: 25 mg
Day 2: 25 mg
Day 3: 25 mg

Below we will add our new injection of 300mg.

Day 4: 25 mg + 25 mg = 50 mg
Day 5: 25 mg + 25 mg = 50 mg
Day 6: 25 mg + 25 mg = 50 mg

Half life of 1st injection is reached, + we add another 300mg injection

Day 7: 12.5 mg + 25 mg + 25 mg = 62.5 mg
Day 8: 12.5 mg + 25 mg + 25 mg = 62.5 mg
Day 9: 12.5 mg + 25 mg + 25 mg = 62.5 mg

Half life of 2nd injection is reached, + we add another 300mg injection

Day 10: 12.5 mg + 12.5 mg + 25 mg + 25 = 75 mg
Day 11: 12.5 mg + 12.5 mg + 25 mg + 25 = 75 mg
Day 12: 12.5 mg + 12.5 mg + 25 mg + 25 = 75 mg

Half life of 1st injection reached again, + half life of 2nd injection reached again + we add another injection

Day 12: 6.25 mg + 12.5 mg + 12.5 mg + 25 + 25 = 81.25 mg
Day 13: 6.25 mg + 12.5 mg + 12.5 mg + 25 + 25 = 81.25 mg
Day 14: 6.25 mg + 12.5 mg + 12.5 mg + 25 + 25 = 81.25 mg

Week 1 = 287.5 metaaboolized
Week 2 = 593.75 metabolized

Total = 881.25 Total

You compound more with frequent injections over time. So you have a choice of nice "spikes" each week, or a stable and better overall result at the end of your cycle.

You wanna see a frontload type difference, inject 2 grams of deca on day 1.

[Hazard]

Nahhhh but I'd enjoy 500mgs twice a week :-)

[knuckles69]

Aaaahhhhhh ok I get it. So if you frontload 2g day one and then continue on your 3.5 day schedule will you be up above a normal blood saturation for the duration of your cycle due to 'topping' up on the 2g with frequent injections?

[knuckles69]

By saturation I ment the anabolic threshold he talks about

[brazuka]

Thanks everybody for contributing. I wish we had the knowledge of jay cutlers/kai greens/phil heaths/ronnie colemans trainers/advisors etc... I bet there are many things to be learned we might not know much about regarding drugs/aas but you most likely have to pay somebody who has done it at a top level and has experienced it to learn these things that are not well known by your everyday rec. user...

[austinite]

Thanks everybody for contributing. I wish we had the knowledge of jay cutlers/kai greens/phil heaths/ronnie colemans trainers/advisors etc... I bet there are many things to be learned we might not know much about regarding drugs/aas but you most likely have to pay somebody who has done it at a top level and has experienced it to learn these things that are not well known by your everyday rec. user...

Of course. Doesn't matter how much you learn, there will always be more to learn. It's a never ending battle and the way of life.

[Java Man]

I used to fire off 500 mg of Test e a week. I noticed I had worse acne than I do with shooting twice a week. Other than that I didn't have any noticeable sides.

that awesome acne boost comes from those ups and downs in hormone levels lunk mentioned.

OP: youre not talkng about an experiment... That's what the accepted protocol was for decades until we wised up that the half life of enanthate is much shorter than once thought. I do mine every 2-3 days depending on how I feel, how I'm responding, and where I'm at in the cycle. I taper the dose down and frequency stretches out to every 4-5 days towards the end as I get into pct mode.

[Java Man]

Aaaahhhhhh ok I get it. So if you frontload 2g day one and then continue on your 3.5 day schedule will you be up above a normal blood saturation for the duration of your cycle due to 'topping' up on the 2g with frequent injections?

I don't think that dose was meant to be taken seriously. Most people should not front load 2g of anything, especially not deca .

[knuckles69]

I don't think that dose was meant to be taken seriously. Most people should not front load 2g of anything, especially not deca.

Oh ok my bad. Haven't tried deca yet so not sure about it

[Euroholic]

Thanks everybody for contributing. I wish we had the knowledge of jay cutlers/kai greens/phil heaths/ronnie colemans trainers/advisors etc... I bet there are many things to be learned we might not know much about regarding drugs/aas but you most likely have to pay somebody who has done it at a top level and has experienced it to learn these things that are not well known by your everyday rec. user...

I thought ronnie had gyno? From what i here alot of pros go off bro science. Whos to no really what goes on anyway.