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Thread: Beware of UGL: Chemical Muscle - Worrisome Recent Events - Contaminated Gear

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    Beware of UGL: Chemical Muscle - Worrisome Recent Events - Contaminated Gear

    Warning to all members:


    - Underground Lab: Chemical Muscle
    - UGL product status: Contaminated/Impure
    - Multiple reports of infections: Yes
    - Images/Other proof provided: Yes

    Recently, yet another member has complained of developing an infection from unsanitary gear. This one was considerably bad and reached a dangerous stage. We've had several complaints about this UGL in the past and have attempted to warn members.

    Once again, I urge you all to be cautious. These folks that have been infected were communicating with another member (or two) in order to purchase the steroids . Be very careful when someone on the forum is excited and eager to help you buy steroids . These are troublesome signs of either a dealer or a rep attempting to take advantage of you. Which is exactly what happened here. These "Bathtub Brewers" are producing dirty gear and selling it to you.

    If anyone is guiding you on how to purchase, it's likely you're being scammed into buying from them. I ask that you please report any such activity so that we can better protect the members. I know that folks do not want to hear "No, your gear is likely contaminated, stay away", because you're excited to get started. But remember, the staff members here have your best interest, the seller does not. No one is forced to take the advice, but we're urging you to think twice before you listen to another member helping you in private.

    There are times where details have to be suppressed due to ongoing investigations behind the scenes, but we won't shy away from warning you. We have threads/guides on how to avoid being scammed. Do your research and don't believe wild claims such as "2 testosterone shots at 100 mg each took me from 400 ng/dl to 3000 + ng/dl.", or similar "Pushing" type reviews. These members are merely promoters and will financially gain from your misfortune. We need you to report these members in the 1 on 1 section, or contact a staff member you're comfortable with so we can protect other members.

    Stay smart and healthy.

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    Im sure It won't take long for an actual member to step forward and say they got an infection and put this whole thing to bed. Good luck to the infected though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fcastle357 View Post
    Im sure It won't take long for an actual member to step forward and say they got an infection and put this whole thing to bed. Good luck to the infected though.
    There is only one person to come forward publicly, we have two others in a similar position who wish for now to remain anonymous..

    This gear will end up killing someone its that serious....
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    Hope those who may have this gear will head this advice. Better to trash it than to deal with an infection or worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post

    There is only one person to come forward publicly, we have two others in a similar position who wish for now to remain anonymous..

    This gear will end up killing someone its that serious....
    Wow, and the people who have hag success .... Lucky or just a good batch?

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    Its amazing what some people will do or sell to make a buck,with no regard to other peoples safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fcastle357 View Post
    Wow, and the people who have hag success .... Lucky or just a good batch?
    Thats the thing, all three members who are now suffering have at some point defended this gear claiming it was good, they really wish they hadn't now...

    From experience what will happen is the supplier will ask in fact in most cases beg those buying to put up good reviews and the simple fact that the unsuspected victims are so happy to receive some gear in the first place they are happy to do so... This is how these people work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fcastle357 View Post
    Wow, and the people who have hag success .... Lucky or just a good batch?
    Who knows, but honestly, it doesn't matter. Not worth the risk. If they infected several batches, they're inexperienced brewers and will likely do it again. Many people sit on gear for a long time before using them, there's probably a whole lot of it out there. Hopefully people will be warned in advance.

    The ones who were infected also stated the gear was good initially. Until they turned black and blue. Luckily no one had to have a limb removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Luckily no one had to have a limb removed.
    Not yet. ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    Not yet. ..
    ugh, yeah.. All we can do is hope for the best from here on out.
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    I have a bit of a stash. I am concerned. Is there any solid proof not just this person got on or that person. It would be nice as I will also be talking to the supplier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fcastle357 View Post
    I have a bit of a stash. I am concerned. Is there any solid proof not just this person got on or that person. It would be nice as I will also be talking to the supplier.
    I presume you didn't see the thread in the Q&A forum yesterday with a member posting pictures of tubes coming out of his ass?? If not then i shall speak to Admin to see if we can resurrect it.....
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    I know these guys that do this are crooks and they dont care what happens. But I dont understand...why not just take the customers money instead of endangering someone life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post

    I presume you didn't see the thread in the Q&A forum yesterday with a member posting pictures of tubes coming out of his ass?? If not then i shall speak to Admin to see if we can resurrect it.....
    No missed it . If I say I'd life a refund (cold day in hell) I would like to have as much proof possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post

    I presume you didn't see the thread in the Q&A forum yesterday with a member posting pictures of tubes coming out of his ass?? If not then i shall speak to Admin to see if we can resurrect it.....
    Didnt see that thread either....wish the app would get f8xed to have the current tab functioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfla80 View Post
    I know these guys that do this are crooks and they dont care what happens. But I dont understand...why not just take the customers money instead of endangering someone life.
    At times they do not know that the gear is infected. but I doubt after the gear was distributed, an attempt was made to correct and refund buyers. It would be detrimental to their business. They just need to get out of the game all together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post

    I presume you didn't see the thread in the Q&A forum yesterday with a member posting pictures of tubes coming out of his ass?? If not then i shall speak to Admin to see if we can resurrect it.....
    I saw those gruesome pics. Can the pics be reposted here if the member prefer to stay anonymous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    I saw those gruesome pics. Can the pics be reposted here if the member prefer to stay anonymous?
    I have no issue with it if Admin approves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    I saw those gruesome pics. Can the pics be reposted here if the member prefer to stay anonymous?
    I'm working on that mate...
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    Pisses me the fuk off that likely, so many members were solicited on this site. I know a lot of you guys, even ones that have been here a while, are and have been looking for sources. I'm sure you got all excited when you opened that PM from some "well known member" and read how they were willing to "hook you up".

    Stop and think! You have never met this member and likely had very little interaction with them. Now all of the sudden they are your best friend and willing to source to YOU, someone they have never met. Seems awfully risky for them as well. So why would they take such risk? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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    I have used them. No infection thank god, but i was not impressed at all.

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    I wondered what happened to that thread and that poor guy. I'm glad to see this posted and to know that it's being dealt with. Listen to Austinite and the good advice.

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    The member who landed in the hospital got a very serious infection. We aren't talking a hot red lump...... His was an antibiotic resistant infection aka mrsa. He went through quite a bit and his family suffered along his side for two weeks. He's still not totally in the clear but hopefully is after a doctor visit today.

    Hopefully the pics can be posted to verify - the member will remain anonymous for now for a few different reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JinNtonic View Post
    I have used them. No infection thank god, but i was not impressed at all.
    Thats the thing..... not every bottle or batch will be infected. Th process in which their stuff is made is relatively unknown. I can assure you it's not in anything remotely lab lke. This leaves the possibility open to sub-par standards..... or worse. Any given bottle could be a tainted one..... it could be something as simple as a needle used for venting a sterile vial being dropped and reused or it could be someting very early on in the brewing process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Thats the thing, all three members who are now suffering have at some point defended this gear claiming it was good, they really wish they hadn't now...

    From experience what will happen is the supplier will ask in fact in most cases beg those buying to put up good reviews and the simple fact that the unsuspected victims are so happy to receive some gear in the first place they are happy to do so... This is how these people work...


    Or they short them on an order and tell them to put up good feedback and they will send the rest.

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    Yep.
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