Some of U will say glad 2 hear it but I am concerned not scared Prostraight Cancer

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Dr gave me my BW today and I am at E2 of 26 and Test 1230 and pas 12 high / top side of you got prostraight cancer unless we test and find out you don't have it ?

So what are the test like and what di I have to look foerard to . . . lol I got my hormoned balanced not by mt Dr. By all you gents putting up with my ship ! anyone been through oit is it the kiss of death do ppl live through it ? I have not been on the Internet yet to search I don't have much of a family and you guys are more family than any I have do that is why I am posting and asking for stoeirs ?

I still have great secx?
I do pee alot
but I drink a gal of water a dat and a 1/2 gal of tea and a gal of protein shakes so I didn't think anything about peeing all the time so will I sie tomorrow or next week ot next mth mit nedt year will it be slow and painful WTF do I have to expext ? ? ? ? ?

[bass]

sorry to hear it bro. well lets not jump the gun until tests are done to confirm its presence. don't know much about testing but they have to go in from your rear I believe and take a sample. testing is the mild part of this, lets hope its just swelling, and that is treatable. wishing you the best bro.

[AD]

are you currently on cycle or trt? stop and repeat bw.

[AD]

and i think you meant prostate.

[Cuz]

sorry to hear your news bro...best regards.

[MuscleInk]

Standard test is usually a digital rectal examination, or DRE for short. Your PSA is high. Anything above 10 is a risk factor, however, PSAs can be very inaccurate and can be affected by other factors.

With a score of 12, the procedure that should be done is a TRUS, transrectal ultrasound. This involves insertion of an elongated ultrasound emitting device into the rectum to take images of the prostate. A biopsy using a fine needle aspiration technique is performed to remove prostate cells. A pathologist will review the cells and assign a Gleason score which will provide information about cell integrity and potential abnormal cell growth should any exist.

[AD]

Standard test is usually a digital rectal examination, or DRE for short. Your PSA is high. Anything above 10 is a risk factor, however, PSAs can be very inaccurate and can be affected by other factors.

With a score of 12, the procedure that should be done is a TRUS, transrectal ultrasound. This involves insertion of an elongated ultrasound emitting device into the rectum to take images of the prostate. A biopsy using a fine needle aspiration technique is performed to remove prostate cells. A pathologist will review the cells and assign a Gleason score which will provide information about cell integrity and potential abnormal cell growth should any exist.

i thought it was true core.

[MuscleInk]

i thought it was true core.

Well, technically it's a stereotactic guided fine needle biopsy but yes, a core method will be used to preserve the cytohistopathology of the cell lines.

Good catch AD.

[Lunk1]

I answered your PM but I will post here as well. MI may correct me but from my experience (family member had it) Prostate Cancer is one of the least life threatening cancers you can get and often times treated with a 100% success rate. Don't start saving for a plot just yet.

[Hazard]

Well, technically it's a stereotactic guided fine needle biopsy but yes, a core method will be used to preserve the cytohistopathology of the cell lines.

Good catch AD.

Huh? English plz :-)

Glad to have you on board man! You're an asset for many!

[Lunk1]

Huh? English plz :-)

Glad to have you on board man! You're an ass to many!

That's not nice!

[MuscleInk]

That's not nice!

Lunk is always commenting on my ass. Some would say its an unnatural preoccupation.

[MuscleInk]

Huh? English plz :-)

Glad to have you on board man! You're an asset for many!

English? I don't know English....but I'm learning great Engrish from My HAW.

[MuscleInk]

I answered your PM but I will post here as well. MI may correct me but from my experience (family member had it) Prostate Cancer is one of the least life threatening cancers you can get and often times treated with a 100% success rate. Don't start saving for a plot just yet.

Gleason scores of 6 or less have very good outcomes.

Now you're wondering WTH a Gleason score is. Lol

[Lunk1]

Gleason scores of 6 or less have very good outcomes.

Now you're wondering WTH a Gleason score is. Lol

Nope, went through it all with my father in law. They used chemo pellets and he was treated at Mayo. been cancer free for pushing 7 or 8 years now I think.

[MuscleInk]

Nope, went through it all with my father in law. They used chemo pellets and he was treated at Mayo. been cancer free for pushing 7 or 8 years now I think.

Good outcomes for brachytherapy. Better than androgenic blockage IMO.

Like most adenocarcinomas, early detection is the key to successful treatment.

[AD]

looks like we lost op after the first post

lol

[Lunk1]

Good outcomes for brachytherapy. Better than androgenic blockage IMO.

Like most adenocarcinomas, early detection is the key to successful treatment.

He was fortunate. Misdiagnosed by local MD's and finally his wife made him go to Mayo.

[Igifuno]

Good luck man, let us know how it goes.

[MuscleInk]

He was fortunate. Misdiagnosed by local MD's and finally his wife made him go to Mayo.

I've seen many misdiagnoses. Really angers me when it happens. Lost a 26 year old single mom of three who was misdiagnosed twice before she was referred to our clinic. Terrible case that should have never gotten as bad as it did.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I've seen many misdiagnoses. Really angers me when it happens. Lost a 26 year old single mom of three who was misdiagnosed twice before she was referred to our clinic. Terrible case that should have never gotten as bad as it did.

SO I have already been doing some reading refrenced by Kel and the study showed the treatment did not actually speed up or slow down the death rate the some people just die from it and other don't ? They really don't know that much about it any info would be grately appericiated as was high as in real high on PSA BW test and last time about a year ago no signs at all could semorlin a GH stimulator and all the supplements have boosted the Prostrate reading ?

All my other BW was great and I am balanced now finally on my own and out of HCG which I have found makes me grumpy ?

Any advice , help , experience a at this point any help would be a hugh favor ?

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I answered your PM but I will post here as well. MI may correct me but from my experience (family member had it) Prostate Cancer is one of the least life threatening cancers you can get and often times treated with a 100% success rate. Don't start saving for a plot just yet.

Now that is what I wanted to hear ! Now did you say it because youthought that was what I wanted to hear or is it VERY treatable ? See I have no hemroids , no obstructions and to much wood to use and no blockage in bowel monement ? The only symptom of anythoing I have and I thought it was just kind of old age is I pee and shake the dog out of my pisser and then do it again and it still dribbles pee is that a dymptom ?

Thank you for the good uplidting words but I need the Straight of it also ?

[Lunk1]

Now that is what I wanted to hear ! Now did you say it because youthought that was what I wanted to hear or is it VERY treatable ? See I have no hemroids , no obstructions and to much wood to use and no blockage in bowel monement ? The only symptom of anythoing I have and I thought it was just kind of old age is I pee and shake the dog out of my pisser and then do it again and it still dribbles pee is that a dymptom ?

Thank you for the good uplidting words but I need the Straight of it also ?

Like MI said. It would depend mainly on your score that would determine a course of treatment and it's effectiveness but in a lot of cases prostate cancer is indeed very treatable. As far as the symptoms and things. I have no working knowledge in that area but I'm pretty sure MuscleInk may know a thing or 2 on this subject.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I told Kel way wrong and I am soooooo sorry I had my 3 mth TRT BW done by my Dr. that does not know how to look at all the #'a he said did you know your LH was down it was all I could do to keep from laughing je is a Dr supposedly treating me for TRT and will not prescribe HCG which I now know I need bacly because when not on ot I am a woman I mean all I do is complain and snap at ppl and when on hcg I am in a lot more laid back mood but any way this Dr. doesn't know how to read all the 3's and come up with a big pic he is treating me for TRT and my colestrol was 3 points high and he puts treating for high colestrol on my chart and I have already told him I am not going to take stations !

Any way my reading was only 7 barley in the be concerned range if I am not mistaken and he told me to schedule an appointment with a urlogest and I am and hope he treats TRT So with this new info AND the fact that I have been taking Semorlin daily for 6 mths and b - 12 1 mL eow _ 50 mg of Deca a week for joint pain and 100 mg or 50 mg of YTest every 3.5 days this could cause an abnormal reading ( I KEEP TELLING MY SELF ) + I take tons of supplements but all were approved aand recommended y a very knowledgable member and I do already have DVY Deep Vain Thrombious = Stablixed blood clots ! Anyone care to offer an ars chewing or a hey that is why you had that reading but my reading was a ( 7 ) not a 12

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

AGAIN to be clear I was so shook up I was reading the wrong # my PSA was ( 7 ) Is that an indicator that my Dr. is being overly cautious because abot a year ago my reading was nothing to be concerned about and not on TRT ? But I would have to weight the way zI felt not on TRT as to the way zI feel now and the aDr specificly told me to not stop taking my Testosterone Cypionate at 200 mg EOW and I take 60 mg every 3.5 days same amount just no crash and burn every 7 days ?

[Lunk1]

Buzz, you need to do the one thing your the worst at...relax. See the specialist and get further testing. Until then you are pretty much pissing in the wind man.

[MuscleInk]

SO I have already been doing some reading refrenced by Kel and the study showed the treatment did not actually speed up or slow down the death rate the some people just die from it and other don't ? They really don't know that much about it any info would be grately appericiated as was high as in real high on PSA BW test and last time about a year ago no signs at all could semorlin a GH stimulator and all the supplements have boosted the Prostrate reading ?

All my other BW was great and I am balanced now finally on my own and out of HCG which I have found makes me grumpy ?

Any advice , help , experience a at this point any help would be a hugh favor ?

It's a complex disease with well over 100 possible mutations up and downstream along various molecular pathways. In short, yes, the disease can be difficult to treat and like every other cancer, there are genomic differences in response rates. I recently gave a presentation on prostate cancer, androgen blockade, and hormone refractory disease.

Any growth peptide can cause hyperplasia and hypertrophy (increase in number and size of cells). If cells are mutagenic and proliferate (grow) disease spreads, hence the risk in using GH or growth-factor peptides. Let me be clear though, these peptides do NOT cause cancer, however they can (and likely do) accelerate the growth of cancerous cells.

Anabolic compounds bind to androgenic receptors (ARs). The prostate fossa is loaded with ARs and stimulation of these receptors will cause enlargement of prostate tissue and the potential for mutations to occur.

I've mentioned this numerous times on here but it rarely gets the attention it deserves.

[MuscleInk]

Buzz, you need to do the one thing your the worst at...relax. See the specialist and get further testing. Until then you are pretty much pissing in the wind man.

^^^Yes. Elevated PSA and difficulty voiding can simply be BPH or prostatitis.

[Bonaparte]

and i think you meant prostate.

Standard test is usually a digital rectal examination, or DRE for short. Your PSA is high. Anything above 10 is a risk factor, however, PSAs can be very inaccurate and can be affected by other factors.

With a score of 12, the procedure that should be done is a TRUS, transrectal ultrasound. This involves insertion of an elongated ultrasound emitting device into the rectum to take images of the prostate. A biopsy using a fine needle aspiration technique is performed to remove prostate cells. A pathologist will review the cells and assign a Gleason score which will provide information about cell integrity and potential abnormal cell growth should any exist.

i thought it was true core.

Well, technically it's a stereotactic guided fine needle biopsy but yes, a core method will be used to preserve the cytohistopathology of the cell lines.

Good catch AD.

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[AD]

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[BuzzardMarinePumper]

^^^Yes. Elevated PSA and difficulty voiding can simply be BPH or prostatitis.

i HAVE NO PLUMIG ISSUES AND NO TROUBLE PEEING AND TO MUCH LIBIDO ! i DRINK 2 GALS OF LIQUID A DAY SO i DO PEE A LOT BUT IT HAS TO GO SOME WHERE ? ooPPPS DIDN'T MEAN TO BE ALL CAPS !

The only time I can't pee is when the Dr. ask for a urine sample ?

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I have an appointment Monday the 22nd and I will know then . .. .Oh and my Dr told me to keep on taking my Testosterone injections ?

I would not normally question this except my Dr. is a DA or let's just say falls short in a lot of areas . He can't read BW and look at ll the #'s and see that they all mean something he reads them line nby line like one doesn't have an effect on the other ? I guess I will shoot and hit the ngym I feel great to b dying . . . . lol we are all dying it is just a mater of when . . . lol

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Buzz, you need to do the one thing your the worst at...relax. See the specialist and get further testing. Until then you are pretty much pissing in the wind man.

No truer words were ever spoken ! I want my answer and I want it now ! . . . lol

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

and i think you meant prostate .

I am awful at spelling but I explained why I have that issue and I am going back to school in Jan . Sever trauma in 02 caused some motor skill issues and memory loose !

But I think I meant Prostrate

[kelkel]

It's a complex disease with well over 100 possible mutations up and downstream along various molecular pathways. In short, yes, the disease can be difficult to treat and like every other cancer, there are genomic differences in response rates. I recently gave a presentation on prostate cancer, androgen blockade, and hormone refractory disease.

Any growth peptide can cause hyperplasia and hypertrophy (increase in number and size of cells). If cells are mutagenic and proliferate (grow) disease spreads, hence the risk in using GH or growth-factor peptides. Let me be clear though, these peptides do NOT cause cancer, however they can (and likely do) accelerate the growth of cancerous cells.

Anabolic compounds bind to androgenic receptors (ARs). The prostate fossa is loaded with ARs and stimulation of these receptors will cause enlargement of prostate tissue and the potential for mutations to occur.

I've mentioned this numerous times on here but it rarely gets the attention it deserves.

How do we say.........CIALIS, dammit.

I love you guys

Seriously, you ok?

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

OK I am a DA are you saying and agreeing that cialais can cause an enlarged prostrate and If I stop taking 25 mg a day it should go back to normal size ?

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

[QUOTE=kelkel;6759973]How do we say.........CIALIS, dammit.



So that's it I have been on 25 mg's of Cialias a day for 8 mths now and that would be the change in my life style if you are implying cialias would cause the prostrate to enlarge because I walk around with wood all the time !

[kelkel]

No BMP. I was only replying to MI.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

No BMP. I was only replying to MI.

Damn Kel why you wna make me all happy like that . . . . lol I was hoping my cialis @ 25 & 30 mg a day was what caused my prostrate to be enlarged it has caused everything else to be enlarged from vains to woody they have both been bigger and more of them . . . lol Oh and in case you didn't read my earlier post I was pretty shook up when I contacted you ! My PSA BW reading was only 7 and that is just barly not acceptable as in slightly elevated that is the same DA Dr. I have been being treat me for TRT @ 1 mg od Adex daily that even the Pharmacist said was to much but he could not change the script and since I was getting 30 1 mg for $8.00 to just cut them and take one every other day and one every 3rd day and now going to go to every 3rd day because can't cut to a quarter they will crumble

NOW I think my Dr. should have made mention of it and said we need to watch it and see what your reading is in 3 mths as opposed to making me think I have a few days to live and implying i HAVE PROSTRATE CANCER ! I think he doesn't know shit about what he is doing and when anyting omes up he wants to pass it off to someone else / i feel a lot etter now after reading and talking to people

Thanks for all you have done to try to assist my stuborne ars !

[MuscleInk]

No BMP. I was only replying to MI.

Yes sir, Cialis is part of my daily regimen. Due to low T, I don't PCT and my PSA bounces around from cycle to cycle. It's gone as high as 9.4 but a daily dose of 10mg keeps my PSA in normal ranges. Sometimes I'll dose higher when running DHT based compounds. I love mast....but it loves my prostate a little too much.

Some people get intense headaches with doses above 10mg but its a case by case event.

For "loads of fun" I've taken 10mg Cialis and 100mg of Viagra on the weekend a few times. My HAW hates when I do that because we're both sore for days after.