You Fukken "A".....

**Times Roman** · 02-15-2014, 08:07 PM

....title describes it perfectly.
(and it's about time we caught a break in Cali)

Read on....

Yahoo!

Court tosses California's concealed weapons rules

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A divided federal appeals court on Thursday struck down California's concealed weapons rules, saying they violate the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

By a 2-1 vote, the three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said California was wrong to require applicants to show good cause to receive a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

"The right to bear arms includes the right to carry an operable firearm outside the home for the lawful purpose of self-defense," Judge Diarmuid O'Scannlain wrote for the majority.

Judge Sidney Thomas dissented, writing that the good cause requirement limited the number of people carrying concealed handguns in public to those legitimately in need.

"It limits the risk to public safety by reducing the number of guns in public circulation, but allows those who will most likely need to defend themselves in public to carry a handgun," Thomas wrote.

Awarding concealed weapon permits is the responsibility of each of California's 58 counties. Officials are required to follow the state rules requiring applicants to show good cause and moral character.

The San Francisco-based appeals court said those requirements were too strict and ran afoul of a 5-4 landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 2008 that struck down a Washington, D.C., handgun ban and said law-abiding citizens are allowed to have handguns in their home for self-defense.

The appeals court on Thursday reinstated a lawsuit filed in 2009 by Edward Peruta, who challenged San Diego County's denial of a concealed weapons permit.

The ruling on Thursday also disagreed with three other federal appeals courts that have upheld permit rules similar to the one in California.

The U.S. Supreme Court often takes cases when federal appeals courts issue conflicting rulings.

**MuscleInk** · 02-15-2014, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

....title describes it perfectly.
(and it's about time we caught a break in Cali)

Read on....

Yahoo!

Court tosses California's concealed weapons rules

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A divided federal appeals court on Thursday struck down California's concealed weapons rules, saying they violate the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

By a 2-1 vote, the three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said California was wrong to require applicants to show good cause to receive a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

"The right to bear arms includes the right to carry an operable firearm outside the home for the lawful purpose of self-defense," Judge Diarmuid O'Scannlain wrote for the majority.

Judge Sidney Thomas dissented, writing that the good cause requirement limited the number of people carrying concealed handguns in public to those legitimately in need.

"It limits the risk to public safety by reducing the number of guns in public circulation, but allows those who will most likely need to defend themselves in public to carry a handgun," Thomas wrote.

Awarding concealed weapon permits is the responsibility of each of California's 58 counties. Officials are required to follow the state rules requiring applicants to show good cause and moral character.

The San Francisco-based appeals court said those requirements were too strict and ran afoul of a 5-4 landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 2008 that struck down a Washington, D.C., handgun ban and said law-abiding citizens are allowed to have handguns in their home for self-defense.

The appeals court on Thursday reinstated a lawsuit filed in 2009 by Edward Peruta, who challenged San Diego County's denial of a concealed weapons permit.

The ruling on Thursday also disagreed with three other federal appeals courts that have upheld permit rules similar to the one in California.

The U.S. Supreme Court often takes cases when federal appeals courts issue conflicting rulings.

So.....with this decision, will it make getting a CCW easier? Will individual counties change their local position on CCW? I'd love to be able to apply for a CCW in SD.

**Times Roman** · 02-15-2014, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

So.....with this decision, will it make getting a CCW easier? Will individual counties change their local position on CCW? I'd love to be able to apply for a CCW in SD.

I live in san Joaquin county and damn near impossible to get a CCW......

**MuscleInk** · 02-15-2014, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

I live in san Joaquin county and damn near impossible to get a CCW......

Ugh....I hear you. Really wish I could carry. Damn county laws.

**gearbox** · 02-15-2014, 09:34 PM

I carry two guns with me 24/7. They are concealed cause I'm married

**Times Roman** · 02-16-2014, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by gearbox

I carry two guns with me 24/7. They are concealed cause I'm married

you correlated your carrying concealed to your being married.

does this mean if you were NOT married than you would not conceal what you carry?

Because that is how you structured your comment...?

**diesel101** · 02-16-2014, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by gearbox

I carry two guns with me 24/7. They are concealed cause I'm married

I carry because I have an angry ex wife

**Lunk1** · 02-16-2014, 01:33 PM

This is the same thing that essentially reversed the Chicago ban on CCW. My guess is that ALL counties in Cali will now be given a short time to become compliant or Fed law will apply.

**RaginCajun** · 02-16-2014, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

I live in san Joaquin county and damn near impossible to get a CCW......

Move to Texas

**wmaousley** · 02-17-2014, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

I live in san Joaquin county and damn near impossible to get a CCW......

Not anymore

**MuscleInk** · 02-17-2014, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

Not anymore

^^^lets hope not. I want my CCW!!!!!!

**Lunk1** · 02-17-2014, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

^^^lets hope not. I want my CCW!!!!!!

You should go apply. Make them turn you down.

**MuscleInk** · 02-17-2014, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

You should go apply. Make them turn you down.

I'm looking into a CCW class (is it necessary???) and the CCW application process.

Damn straight I'm applying! I want my CCW!!!!!!

**thunderthor70** · 02-17-2014, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

I'm looking into a CCW class (is it necessary???) and the CCW application process.

Damn straight I'm applying! I want my CCW!!!!!!

In some states you can just take an on line course. They consist of a few hours of videos and a quiz at the end. Really basic gun safety stuff. After you complete it you print out a certificate and take it to the county sheriffs office. I think the one I took was around $50.00.

**MuscleInk** · 02-17-2014, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by thunderthor70

In some states you can just take an on line course. They consist of a few hours of videos and a quiz at the end. Really basic gun safety stuff. After you complete it you print out a certificate and take it to the county sheriffs office. I think the one I took was around $50.00.

I'm pretty sure in California you have to go to Sheriff's office for interview, pictures, finger prints, donate a kidney, pledge your first born and bunch of other crazy crap. Lol

Already have my hand gun safety certificate - needed to purchase handguns in CA. More required for CCW I believe.

**thunderthor70** · 02-17-2014, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

I'm pretty sure in California you have to go to Sheriff's office for interview, pictures, finger prints, donate a kidney, pledge your first born and bunch of other crazy crap. Lol

Already have my hand gun safety certificate - needed to purchase handguns in CA. More required for CCW I believe.

Ouch!