Why is it so hard to find good gear?

[Cole77]

I have been working out off and on for about 15 yrs and within the past two yrs have started my first cycle. I had a reliable connection for that time, but lost touch when I relocated out of state. I have been off everything for 8 plus weeks and can see and feel a difference. I started supplements, but of course the results are not as substantial.

I have been ripped and off scammed several times by way of bad or bunk gear and nothing being delivered. I am just frustrated and can't understand why its so hard to make a reliable connection.

My apologies for venting.

[lovbyts]

Such as life. So, you have been off for 8 weeks and already getting smaller? How long were you on?

I think instead of venting you need to visit the nutrition section and read up on diet.

[Cole77]

I have been off 9 weeks. Yes, getting smaller. I was on since the previous March with a couple two - three week breaks in between. Had some diet changes as my travel picked up for work, but I noticed decreased strength and endurance. I guess you cant stay superman forever. I think its frustrating not having the option anymore to start again when I want.

[Back In Black]

Have you ran a pct?

You were on for 9 months? On what?

[Cole77]

It was more like 7 with the breaks in between. I was on Nandro Decanate 250ml 1cc a week and Depot Test 250ml 1cc a week.

When I first started I noiced significant gains, but then plateaued. I tried increasing, but I think the next round I purchased wasn't potent bc I saw limited improvement.

[skaz915]

You only have 7 posts and are new to forum. I'm sure you'll get all kinds of pms offering you gear, be careful. But I hear you man, you literally can find meth and crack easier than AAS which to me is pretty damn sad.

[Back In Black]

It was more like 7 with the breaks in between. I was on Nandro Decanate 250ml 1cc a week and Depot Test 250ml 1cc a week.

When I first started I noiced significant gains, but then plateaued. I tried increasing, but I think the next round I purchased wasn't potent bc I saw limited improvement.

And that was your first cycle?

Never ran any form of PCT?

[Cole77]

Thanks for the advice.

Totally agree. Just walk down the street and that stuff is all around.

[Cole77]

Yes that was my first cycle and I didn't run any PCT's. I wasn't very knowledgeable about cycles at the time and was following the advice of a friend. I have since read and researched more about AAS cycles and realized I was clearly doing some things incorrectly.

I would like to start again the right way as I feel I haven't come close to achieving my full potential.

[Back In Black]

Yes that was my first cycle and I didn't run any PCT's. I wasn't very knowledgeable about cycles at the time and was following the advice of a friend. I have since read and researched more about AAS cycles and realized I was clearly doing some things incorrectly.

I would like to start again the right way as I feel I haven't come close to achieving my full potential.

Before you start anything again you need to run an pct. You've been shut down for nearly a year.

Did you use HCG on cycle?

[Cole77]

I agree. I have an appt scheduled. Then I can plan next steps and a proper routine.

I didn't use HCG on Test and Deca.

[Back In Black]

I agree. I have an appt scheduled. Then I can plan next steps and a proper routine.

I didn't use HCG on Test and Deca.

An appointment for what?

I'd suggest you look up Dr Scally's power PCT protocol. Follow it. The educate yourself before thinking about running another cycle in many many months time.

[Cole77]

Thanks for the suggestion. I will look up the book.

Im getting some blood work done to check some levels.

[Bert]

Anything good, is hard to find.

[chi]

i dont mean to be a jerk but the real question posed is "why do so many people take gear without knowing jack shit about what they are doing?"

its dangerous and potentially life altering injecting and ingesting substances that alter your hormone levels and can leave you with medical condition that shorten your life expectancy and quality without knowing what you are doing. Knowledge is power and research should be done before attempting anything as serious as AAS.

[kelkel]

Anything good, is hard to find.

Sometimes it's closer than it actually seems.

[Hazard]

Sometimes it's closer than it actually seems.

[GSXRvi6]

Sometimes it's closer than it actually seems.

krogers is a few miles from my house. They sell gear when you have a script :-)

[Cole77]

I couldn't agree with you more. When I first started I had knowledge about training, but this took it to another level. I didn't really have a good understanding of how my body would react and how to mitigate the risk with knowledge. If I had a chance to start over from the beginning I would have educated myself and have been more prepared, but I was caught up in the quick results, fast gains and ego mentality. Live and learn. I am just grateful that nothing serious happened.

Love the banner!

[Cole77]

Hmmmmm.....Interesting.

[chi]

I couldn't agree with you more. When I first started I had knowledge about training, but this took it to another level. I didn't really have a good understanding of how my body would react and how to mitigate the risk with knowledge. If I had a chance to start over from the beginning I would have educated myself and have been more prepared, but I was caught up in the quick results, fast gains and ego mentality. Live and learn. I am just grateful that nothing serious happened.

Love the banner!

We can only learn from our mistakes and not repeat them lord knows I have made many and realized it glad you feel the same.

Lol figured id add the banner for some visuals

[lovbyts]

We can only learn from our mistakes and not repeat them lord knows I have made many and realized it glad you feel the same.

Lol figured id add the banner for some visuals

Wait, what's this learn from our mistakes stuff? We aren't supposed to keep repeating the same mistakes? Damn I knew I was doing something wrong.

[Cole77]

You know what they say about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.......

It only took me 38 years to start to get it!

[Cole77]

I remember that from watching Saturday morning cartoons....Classic!

Totally feel the same and when I finally procure a good source and gear I am all about correcting the mistakes made before.

I'm just starting PCT right now. A little late, but better late than never. I find myself becoming emotional over hallmark commercials and watching real housewives of bullshit county.....Time for some much needed T!

[lovbyts]

You know what they say about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.......

It only took me 38 years to start to get it!

I still have not learned how to have proper sex with 18yr old Asian girls so I guess I shoukd keep practicing.

[Cole77]

is there such thing as "proper" sex with 18 yr old Asian girls?

[lovbyts]

is there such thing as "proper" sex with 18 yr old Asian girls?

I hope not. I like practicing.

[Honkey_Kong]

I hope not. I like practicing.

If you're not banging 3 of them at once, it's not proper.

[Cole77]

Ahhh the rule of three......I like

Nice!

[Cole77]

Now I'm hungry for Chinee

[Lunk1]

Well, did this thread get you a bunch of sources like you had hoped?

[Cole77]

I didn't mean to come off in a way that sounded like I was trolling for sources, but after reading through my post it did sound like that. I have been frustrated with buying bad product or getting ripped off completely and was venting to the community of people who probably have experienced the same frustration. So yes, indirectly I was hoping for guidance or a reliable connection, but to answer your question that didn't happen. I did however, connect with some cool, knowledgable people and in the short time I have been a member learned some valuable tips and tricks. I am going to be here for a long time as health and fitness are a big part of my life. And with the addition of AAS into my workout I will be needing some solid advice.

[Honkey_Kong]

I didn't mean to come off in a way that sounded like I was trolling for sources, but after reading through my post it did sound like that. I have been frustrated with buying bad product or getting ripped off completely and was venting to the community of people who probably have experienced the same frustration. So yes, indirectly I was hoping for guidance or a reliable connection, but to answer your question that didn't happen. I did however, connect with some cool, knowledgable people and in the short time I have been a member learned some valuable tips and tricks. I am going to be here for a long time as health and fitness are a big part of my life. And with the addition of AAS into my workout I will be needing some solid advice.

You should just find the biggest guy who goes to your gym and ask him.

[Cole77]

I just moved back to Phila from PHX and haven't built those kind of gym relationships yet, but the thought has crossed my mind. I just don't want to be that guy. I had a guy ask me when I was at my biggest and I remember thinking how uncomfortable it made me feel. So I wouldn't want to do that to someone. Believe it or not I'm a relatively private person and extend that courtesy to others. I think it will just take time.

[lovbyts]

If you're not banging 3 of them at once, it's not proper.

No, no and no. Im sure I still don't have it right yet so I had better start doing 4 at a time.

[John Andrew]

No, no and no. Im sure I still don't have it right yet so I had better start doing 4 at a time.

No the 4th girl goes down to the pharmacy and buys your gear!

Good luck.

John

[Honkey_Kong]

No, no and no. Im sure I still don't have it right yet so I had better start doing 4 at a time.

Careful about those Thai girls. One of them might end up having a trunk.

[Cole77]

Like my "wise" friend once told me about "accidently" not knowing if she had a trunk......"If know body knows then it didn't happen and it wasn't gay"!

[Oki-Des]

I remember my buddy and I were both hitting on a Thai girl, but she liked him and went home with him. The next day when I asked my buddy about her, he told me she had a d!ck! Ha ha. He didnt find out until after a little foreplay. I was never so happy to lose.