Fired for researching testosterone, right or wrong?

**michael30** · 03-07-2014, 02:49 PM

Im curious what other peoples opinions are. 2 years ago i worked at golds gym. I got fired for looking up and researching testosterone . I am an was on trt. While on break i used a company computer to look up info on testosterone. This site was one of the ones i used. I even brought in a letter from my dr. Stating im on hrt and also brought in my prescription. I know i made the mistake of using a company computer. But do you feel i should have been fired? My boss said golds gym cant be tied into anything that has to do with steroids an illegal substances, thats why i was fired. When i brought the letter and prescription, he wouldnt even look at it. My question is, was this all my fault? Or theres?

**kelkel** · 03-07-2014, 02:58 PM

You may consider speaking to a lawyer.

**diesel101** · 03-07-2014, 03:31 PM

I have two opinions on it.
On a personal level I think letting you go was very extreme especially if you were on break and you explained the situation.
Now as a business owner (My business is not related to a gym business) I can understand were the owner is coming from especially on a company computer that other people have access too.
A few years ago I had a employee that was looking up insulin needles to order online on his break (he did have diabetes). He left his computer for a few minutes and another employee came in and seen the syringes on the computer screen.
Needless to say the rumors of him being on drugs went wild with all of the other employees.
That is the reason I can understand the owners side of it.

**Black** · 03-07-2014, 03:44 PM

Just curious, was the site TRT related or was the more towards recreational steroid use ?

**lovbyts** · 03-07-2014, 03:51 PM

What is the company policy? No personal use of the company PC = yes you should be fired. If personal use is permitted then I would speak to an attorney.

**Capebuffalo** · 03-07-2014, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dante Diamond

Just curious, was the site TRT related or was the more towards recreational steroid use?

He said this site. So it's a little iffy. Company computer non work related.

**RaginCajun** · 03-07-2014, 03:59 PM

company computer for personal use, nuff said.

**lovbyts** · 03-07-2014, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

company computer for personal use, nuff said.

Depends on the policy. I'm allowed to use company computer for personal use but of course there are limitations.

**michael30** · 03-07-2014, 04:18 PM

there was no policy about using the company computers. Yes it was this site an acouple others. One thing you need to realize is testosterone /steroids are legal with a prescription. Which i had and provided to them along with a letter from my dr. So i personally feel i should not of been fired. The bad thing is it was the manager that handled it. He would not let me speak to the supervisor or show them my script or letter.

**michael30** · 03-07-2014, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

company computer for personal use, nuff said.

Even if there was a policy not to use the computers(which there wasnt) do you still feel that justifies termination? Normally a write up would be given, not termination.

**michael30** · 03-07-2014, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dante Diamond

Just curious, was the site TRT related or was the more towards recreational steroid use?

They were sights that spoke about both. This site was one of them.

**diesel101** · 03-07-2014, 04:51 PM

It does not justify termination in my opinion but in some states no reason or warnings are needed to terminate an employee.

**Lunk1** · 03-07-2014, 04:52 PM

My guess is that your days there were numbered already.

AD · 03-07-2014, 05:16 PM

Why are you still thinking about it after 2yrs?

**GirlyGymRat** · 03-07-2014, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by AD

Why are you still thinking about it after 2yrs?

^^^ this Learn and move on. Too much negative energy on the past

**Bert** · 03-07-2014, 06:27 PM

What a douche that owner was.

**michael30** · 03-07-2014, 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=AD;6824593]Why are you still thinking about it after 2yrs?[/QUOTE

Is this really the most intelligent response you can give? I didnt say im up at nights losing sleep. I asked do you feel if it was right or wrong? This thread was started to open a discussion about something that i feel is a gray area. Just wanted to hear peoples opinions.

**michael30** · 03-07-2014, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

My guess is that your days there were numbered already.

If i read the post this is what i would probably think to. But i had only worked there 4months at the time of the incident. An was never late or had any write ups. I will say that there was no love lost between the manager that fired me an myself. So that could be the reason. Especially when he would not let me take it over his head to the supervisor.

**noon** · 03-07-2014, 07:37 PM

What was your position
What was your salary

**michael30** · 03-07-2014, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by noon

What was your position
What was your salary

it was only a part time job 16-24hrs aweek due to my full time job. I was just a staff member there.

**diesel101** · 03-07-2014, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by michael30

it was only a part time job 16-24hrs aweek due to my full time job. I was just a staff member there.

Part time? 2 years? Dude let it go!

**michael30** · 03-07-2014, 08:19 PM

[QUOTE=diesel101;6824686]Part time? 2 years? Dude let it go

Is a discussion bud. Dont take everything so serious, relax alittle

**diesel101** · 03-07-2014, 08:51 PM

Yea I know im just a little worked up tonight

**austinite** · 03-07-2014, 09:44 PM

You used company equipment, while on the clock, not for it's intended use. Harsh? Maybe, but you violated company policy. You have no gripe.

As an employer, I can tell you that you were already on the chopping block, they were just waiting for you to slip.

**Shol'va** · 03-07-2014, 09:47 PM

Had this incident happened say today,and if there was no written policy on using company computers on employee time, then you would have a case IMO. Not only that but you could also have sent the reasoning you were on this site in a few different directions. Say for example you could have said hey I accidently hit the space bar on your company computer and this site popped up to display this page where a gay dude was posting bodybuilding pictures that were explicit in nature and seemed to be related to body building and since this is a gym that I work for here, I was curious about what the articles had to say. But before I realized it had to do with steroids , you came in and assumed I was researching steroids which I was not. So if you are firing me over that I'll see you in court. There are many laywers who would love to take on grey area cases like this where they make lots of money off of. So if you want to end up giving me half if not more of your gym then by all means fire me. And by throwing in the gay innuendo you could also go the sexual discrimination way as well making your boss at the time think that you might be gay and make it look like he is using the firing of you as an excuse to get rid of you because he thinks you are gay. Good ambulance chaser lawyers know all the ways to go after bosses like this if indeed he is a bad boss and not within his rights as an employer looking after the survival and expansion and greater good of the company. Just my ten cents in all of this. Years ago this was one of several reasons as to why unions were being formed all over the country. Because before unions you had no way of defending your side as they had complete control over any and every aspect of your job and if they didn't like you for any reason then out you went without having an recourse in any of it. So along came unions to save the day. But then somewhere down the road they went too far to the left and well unions are disappearing off the radar. especially the last 10 or so years as most of our really good and really good paying jobs were sent to China. This was a well coordinated scheme of many American businesses to break the backs and do a final blow to the once almighty American Unions. And they have all but succeeded. Now those same jobs that left the country for cheaper labor are returning to American shores complete with much lower paying wages than they left with. And no longer will you be getting those nice retirement packages after working your butts off for 30 to 35 years of quality dedicated service, nor will you have company health benefits. Although to be fair Obama really screwed that one up IMO with ObamaCare free health care for all...yeah right. Also youd better not be turning down any overtime offers in the new work place or do anything that might tick off your boss as they now have all the power to let you go whenever they feel. Just like in the old days. You can be set up at work and there are all kinds of dirty play books they used to use which would work just as well in todays work place. Anyways if it was a discussion you want op well I hope this adds to it..lol

**Hazard** · 03-07-2014, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Shol'va

Had this incident happened say today,and if there was no written policy on using company computers on employee time, then you would have a case IMO. Not only that but you could also have sent the reasoning you were on this site in a few different directions. Say for example you could have said hey I accidently hit the space bar on your company computer and this site popped up to display this page where a gay dude was posting bodybuilding pictures that were explicit in nature and seemed to be related to body building and since this is a gym that I work for here, I was curious about what the articles had to say. But before I realized it had to do with steroids, you came in and assumed I was researching steroids which I was not. So if you are firing me over that I'll see you in court. There are many laywers who would love to take on grey area cases like this where they make lots of money off of. So if you want to end up giving me half if not more of your gym then by all means fire me. And by throwing in the gay innuendo you could also go the sexual discrimination way as well making your boss at the time think that you might be gay and make it look like he is using the firing of you as an excuse to get rid of you because he thinks you are gay. Good ambulance chaser lawyers know all the ways to go after bosses like this if indeed he is a bad boss and not within his rights as an employer looking after the survival and expansion and greater good of the company. Just my ten cents in all of this. Years ago this was one of several reasons as to why unions were being formed all over the country. Because before unions you had no way of defending your side as they had complete control over any and every aspect of your job and if they didn't like you for any reason then out you went without having an recourse in any of it. So along came unions to save the day. But then somewhere down the road they went too far to the left and well unions are disappearing off the radar. especially the last 10 or so years as most of our really good and really good paying jobs were sent to China. This was a well coordinated scheme of many American businesses to break the backs and do a final blow to the once almighty American Unions. And they have all but succeeded. Now those same jobs that left the country for cheaper labor are returning to American shores complete with much lower paying wages than they left with. And no longer will you be getting those nice retirement packages after working your butts off for 30 to 35 years of quality dedicated service, nor will you have company health benefits. Although to be fair Obama really screwed that one up IMO with ObamaCare free health care for all...yeah right. Also youd better not be turning down any overtime offers in the new work place or do anything that might tick off your boss as they now have all the power to let you go whenever they feel. Just like in the old days. You can be set up at work and there are all kinds of dirty play books they used to use which would work just as well in todays work place. Anyways if it was a discussion you want op well I hope this adds to it..lol

I refuse to read all that..... Lol

Next time don't use periods either :-p

**Honkey_Kong** · 03-08-2014, 02:10 AM

Michael, don't take this the wrong way, but I would've fired you too. You broke the rules. And in this particular case, gyms get enough heat for being places where illegal drugs like gear are distributed.

But like Austinite said, they probably wanted to get rid of you for a while, you just gave them the reason here.

**Euroholic** · 03-08-2014, 02:13 AM

Guy at my old work got the boot for fighting outside of work hours they said because he was in uniform it reflected bad against there core values

**ironbeck** · 03-08-2014, 03:06 AM

Sounds like they where looking for a excuse to let you go, and used this as an escape goat. I would be looking for the "friend' that rat ed you out to the owner/manager.

**Euroholic** · 03-08-2014, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by diesel101

Part time? 2 years? Dude let it go!

Hahahah

**moseley2004** · 03-08-2014, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by Shol'va

Had this incident happened say today,and if there was no written policy on using company computers on employee time, then you would have a case IMO. Not only that but you could also have sent the reasoning you were on this site in a few different directions. Say for example you could have said hey I accidently hit the space bar on your company computer and this site popped up to display this page where a gay dude was posting bodybuilding pictures that were explicit in nature and seemed to be related to body building and since this is a gym that I work for here, I was curious about what the articles had to say. But before I realized it had to do with steroids, you came in and assumed I was researching steroids which I was not. So if you are firing me over that I'll see you in court. There are many laywers who would love to take on grey area cases like this where they make lots of money off of. So if you want to end up giving me half if not more of your gym then by all means fire me. And by throwing in the gay innuendo you could also go the sexual discrimination way as well making your boss at the time think that you might be gay and make it look like he is using the firing of you as an excuse to get rid of you because he thinks you are gay. Good ambulance chaser lawyers know all the ways to go after bosses like this if indeed he is a bad boss and not within his rights as an employer looking after the survival and expansion and greater good of the company. Just my ten cents in all of this. Years ago this was one of several reasons as to why unions were being formed all over the country. Because before unions you had no way of defending your side as they had complete control over any and every aspect of your job and if they didn't like you for any reason then out you went without having an recourse in any of it. So along came unions to save the day. But then somewhere down the road they went too far to the left and well unions are disappearing off the radar. especially the last 10 or so years as most of our really good and really good paying jobs were sent to China. This was a well coordinated scheme of many American businesses to break the backs and do a final blow to the once almighty American Unions. And they have all but succeeded. Now those same jobs that left the country for cheaper labor are returning to American shores complete with much lower paying wages than they left with. And no longer will you be getting those nice retirement packages after working your butts off for 30 to 35 years of quality dedicated service, nor will you have company health benefits. Although to be fair Obama really screwed that one up IMO with ObamaCare free health care for all...yeah right. Also youd better not be turning down any overtime offers in the new work place or do anything that might tick off your boss as they now have all the power to let you go whenever they feel. Just like in the old days. You can be set up at work and there are all kinds of dirty play books they used to use which would work just as well in todays work place. Anyways if it was a discussion you want op well I hope this adds to it..lol

Way too many words lol. There should be a character limit

**Black** · 03-08-2014, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I refuse to read all that..... Lol

Next time don't use periods either :-p

Bahahahahahaha

**Capebuffalo** · 03-08-2014, 07:45 AM

[QUOTE=michael30;6824692]

Originally Posted by diesel101

Part time? 2 years? Dude let it go

Is a discussion bud. Dont take everything so serious, relax alittle

You fvcked up over 2 years ago at a part time job. You got fired.

End of discussion.

Next topic. You got a D on a chemistry test in high school. Did the teacher grade too harshly? Thoughts and opinions?

**DSM4Life** · 03-08-2014, 07:52 AM

[QUOTE=Capebuffalo;6824863]

Originally Posted by michael30

You fvcked up over 2 years ago at a part time job. You got fired.

End of discussion.

Next topic. You got a D on a chemistry test in high school. Did the teacher grade too harshly? Thoughts and opinions?

Was he attractive?