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    Study aid

    Looking for suggestion for legal otc study aids for my upcoming exams.
    I have been using geranamine, which does no appear to be on sale anymore.
    Wonder what else might be useful.
    Caffeine? Synephrine?
    What do you guys suggest.

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    schizandrol a

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    Does anyone use coffee anymore?

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    Alot of people are using Nootropics like Noopept and various raticams for this purpose. These are not stimulants.
    Are you looking for a stimulant?
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    Synephrine and caffeine aren't going to do anything for what you're looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    Alot of people are using Nootropics like Noopept and various raticams for this purpose. These are not stimulants.
    Are you looking for a stimulant?
    Well you can always go for the microchip implant.
    Brain implants: Restoring memory with a microchip - CNN.com

    I got some Noopept a while back but I keep forgetting to take it.
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    I tried one of the varietys of noopepts it did seem to help pick up information from reading study manuals and such.it also brought a genuine feeling of well bieng . But it killed my focus. Like walking into a room and not knowing why I was there.
    Makes me feel fresh on little to no sleep.
    10mg over ther course of the day is recommended dose. Micro scoop under tunge.

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    thanks for all the suggestions, I had to google scitzandrol. The drol make it sound like a aas.
    I do have vinpoceptine, found it useful in geranamine.
    Just can't get geranium extract anymore.
    Would noopept work with the vinpoceptine?

    I have used Modafinil in the past, but it gave me horrible anxiety so, I want to avoid that in future.

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    a good nights sleep will help a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTahl View Post
    a good nights sleep will help a lot
    Yup but time some last minute cramming. I have a little under two weeks to study for my exams.

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    I have spent thousands and thousands of hours studying over the years. 1,000 hours alone for a "single" test. I could probably write a book on study techniques. And study "supplements" would be a chapter.

    Most of those hours studying were spent natty. however, a fantastic study aid is in the stimulant family. I've used Ritalin over the years (I'm prescribed Ritalin, so mine would be a legal application) with great results. But if you do not ordinarily need or take Ritalin, I'd be very reluctant to use that as a crutch.

    Nootropics have a very marginal impact on focus and clarity. And they can be expensive.

    Coffee, as old fashioned as it sounds, does work well. The stimulating properties of caffeine are well tolerated, and the sides are well understood and very low. And it is inexpensive. Nothing beats a couple cups of strong coffee before hitting the books.

    Carbohydrates are needed for significant cognitive performance. So before a study session, make sure you are carbed up. Trying to think/study while in ketosis is probably not a good idea. And having a bowl of Hershey's kisses available while studying works (although a banana works too, but you have to eat more banana to get an equivalent effect)

    But I think relying on study aids, although effective, are just one tool that is available in the box. Study methodology is just as or more important than study supplements. The theory for study methodology is fairly complex, but amazingly effective.

    Let me know if you want me to continue on this subject......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    I have spent thousands and thousands of hours studying over the years. 1,000 hours alone for a "single" test. I could probably write a book on study techniques. And study "supplements" would be a chapter.

    Most of those hours studying were spent natty. however, a fantastic study aid is in the stimulant family. I've used Ritalin over the years (I'm prescribed Ritalin, so mine would be a legal application) with great results. But if you do not ordinarily need or take Ritalin, I'd be very reluctant to use that as a crutch.

    Nootropics have a very marginal impact on focus and clarity. And they can be expensive.

    Coffee, as old fashioned as it sounds, does work well. The stimulating properties of caffeine are well tolerated, and the sides are well understood and very low. And it is inexpensive. Nothing beats a couple cups of strong coffee before hitting the books.

    Carbohydrates are needed for significant cognitive performance. So before a study session, make sure you are carbed up. Trying to think/study while in ketosis is probably not a good idea. And having a bowl of Hershey's kisses available while studying works (although a banana works too, but you have to eat more banana to get an equivalent effect)

    But I think relying on study aids, although effective, are just one tool that is available in the box. Study methodology is just as or more important than study supplements. The theory for study methodology is fairly complex, but amazingly effective.

    Let me know if you want me to continue on this subject......

    ---Roman
    Ritalin is not an option for me. Realistically each 5 credit module equates to 125 study hours. Repeating 2 modules. I have near 80% in one module already, which has 50% continuous assessment component. Most of my efforts say 2/3 will go into the module that is entirely dependent on the exam. I feel I should be able to cover an reasonable amount in this time. I have had a few very productive days in the last week or so. I would love to hear more of your suggestion, which I can integrate into a study plan for next semester, and beyond.

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    from what ive read on schizandrol a, is it gives amphetamine like focus.

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    This might help:

    What it Does – Google Glass

    It's not illegal, but if they figure out that you can see messages on the glassses screen, you'll probably fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    This might help:

    What it Does – Google Glass

    It's not illegal, but if they figure out that you can see messages on the glassses screen, you'll probably fail.
    I was just going to say you can always fall back on the good ole true and blue, Cheating...

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    In China they use IV full of amino acids. No kidding on that. The hospital will be packed full the week of finals giving the IVs.

    Whatever. Some say a sucker is born every moment.

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    It ain't cheating if you don't get caught. :P
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    I was just going to say you can always fall back on the good ole true and blue, Cheating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    It ain't cheating if you don't get caught. :P
    Ive never cheated...

    Are we talking about school or relationships???

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREENMACHINE View Post
    Ritalin is not an option for me. Realistically each 5 credit module equates to 125 study hours. Repeating 2 modules. I have near 80% in one module already, which has 50% continuous assessment component. Most of my efforts say 2/3 will go into the module that is entirely dependent on the exam. I feel I should be able to cover an reasonable amount in this time. I have had a few very productive days in the last week or so. I would love to hear more of your suggestion, which I can integrate into a study plan for next semester, and beyond.
    agreed, and good for you! it's a helluva crutch, and not a path to go down. I only used it for exams, and typically not studying.

    There is a "science" to studying, techniques that I have come up with over the last dozen 20 years or so. I will outline each one, and if you want to have me fill in the detail, I will do so.

    Before I begin, some validation, but on a small scale. My son is not a good one for studying. He was moaning and groaning about how hard it was to study, and the tests were too damn hard. He said he was reading the material, but his retention percentage was low. I showed him this technique, and not only did he ace the test, but he remembered the material long afterward. I've never shared these techniques publicly, so I'm only going to disclose "on demand"

    Summary:

    The traditional process of studying and ultimately remembering typically revolves around the following senses:
    *Visual - Reading the material and reading your notes
    *Tactile - If notes are taken, then you are writing the material down, and involving the sensation of touch

    My technique involves most of the senses, as follows:
    *Visual - Reading the material as usual, reading your notes as usual
    *Tactile - Taking notes. Not only in the traditional sense, but also on 3 x 5 cards
    *Vocal - Reading your notes from the 3 x 5 cards into an audio recorder.
    *Audio - Listening to your audio recording while driving, standing in line at the grocery store, and while sleeping.

    This encompasses 4 of the 5 senses, or a 100% increase over the traditional method of study.

    How these senses are stimulated for the learning process, and application of these techniques can be discussed further if there is any interest.

    ---Roman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    agreed, and good for you! it's a helluva crutch, and not a path to go down. I only used it for exams, and typically not studying.

    There is a "science" to studying, techniques that I have come up with over the last dozen 20 years or so. I will outline each one, and if you want to have me fill in the detail, I will do so.

    Before I begin, some validation, but on a small scale. My son is not a good one for studying. He was moaning and groaning about how hard it was to study, and the tests were too damn hard. He said he was reading the material, but his retention percentage was low. I showed him this technique, and not only did he ace the test, but he remembered the material long afterward. I've never shared these techniques publicly, so I'm only going to disclose "on demand"

    Summary:

    The traditional process of studying and ultimately remembering typically revolves around the following senses:
    *Visual - Reading the material and reading your notes
    *Tactile - If notes are taken, then you are writing the material down, and involving the sensation of touch

    My technique involves most of the senses, as follows:
    *Visual - Reading the material as usual, reading your notes as usual
    *Tactile - Taking notes. Not only in the traditional sense, but also on 3 x 5 cards
    *Vocal - Reading your notes from the 3 x 5 cards into an audio recorder.
    *Audio - Listening to your audio recording while driving, standing in line at the grocery store, and while sleeping.

    This encompasses 4 of the 5 senses, or a 100% increase over the traditional method of study.

    How these senses are stimulated for the learning process, and application of these techniques can be discussed further if there is any interest.

    ---Roman
    DAMN, to much work. Ill stick to cheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    DAMN, to much work. Ill stick to cheating.
    one of the few things I'm really good at is cheating, I mean studying! =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post

    DAMN, to much work. Ill stick to cheating.
    It does sound easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    I was just going to say you can always fall back on the good ole true and blue, Cheating...
    You call it cheating, I call it being resourceful. I look at it like this: In the real world, nobody cares if you got somebody else to do the work for you. As long as it gets done is all that anyone cares about. Exams should be the same thing. I think cheating is a better appropriation of time anyways. Odds are, 3 weeks after the exam, you'll forget just about everything that was covered on it anyways. So what are they really testing? That I can figure out how to use an index in a book? Or a search engine? And retain it for 6 hours?

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    There's a saying, C=MD....thats a medical school thing, because classes are pass/fail...

    But anyway, in the scenario where you're working on a 4 point scale...I think everyone has to find out what works for them as far as studying. Myself, I will sit down with a book and computer, and write everything i feel to be important into a word file, I will then print the word file, and then I will look at it several times of day, covering every part of it. I take mental 'pictures' of each page, which get built up over the time I study the pages...When it comes time to take the test and/or recall the page, I bring up the picture of it in my head, and read from the picture of the page....

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