Police Shoot and kill black teen in Missouri Town

[DCI]

Can someone explain the phrase "anti american" to me?

Cos you hear it fired out there a lot for literally no apparent reason other than to sound patriotic etc and somehow by saying that statement its used as a justifier for whatever gibberish was stated

[austinite]

My source is the other 99.9% that don't do those crimes and haven't even been accused of doing so, which you choose to ignore because it doesn't favor your argument. I'm not a police officer but i respect them. Something you should learn to do.

You're the type of person that has someone break into your house, and then steal your car and you refuse to call the cops out of a pride issue. So you just let the car be stolen out of pure ignorance, when in reality you could call the police and have it given back to you in a matter of hours.

Why would I ignore it? I have no criminal history what so ever. You're on a steroids site for fvcks sake. You trying to be ethical or something?

So long as cops are corrupt, I will not have respect for them. And it is Anti American to think that I have to respect them. (you like that, don't ya?)

I live in Texas kid. If someone breaks into my house I shoot them until they're dead. And then I would go to sleep in my own bed that night. That's a problem that YOU have in your city/state. We don't have that problem here. We're happy to kill criminals that invade our properties and the courts encourage us to do so.

Maybe that's the problem, you're way too co-dependant.

Listen, you're taking this way out of context. No one here said we don't need cops. We're just saying that they are corrupt and anyone who thinks they're not is living in a disney movie. Get over it man.

[austinite]

Can someone explain the phrase "anti american" to me?

Cos you hear it fired out there a lot for literally no apparent reason other than to sound patriotic etc and somehow by saying that statement its used as a justifier for whatever gibberish was stated

Stupid. He didn't like it when I threw it back at him. Dumbest thing ever. As if he determines what is and what isn't american.

[jimmyinkedup]

I'm not a police officer but i respect them. Something you should learn to do.

I am a man, not a eunuch, I determine whom I respect, my respect tis earned as I expect to earn that of others. You can dress up however you want and wear whatever silver metal thing on your shirt pocket you want, even pack whatever sidearm you want (as can I as a can I coincidentally) **** if I have to learn to respect you for that. Do I have to respect all the Ronad McDonalds across the country cause they all dress alike and do the same job?
Blind respect for authority, historical figures like Hilter counted and relied on it to carry out their agendas. Thank god the world isnt and wasnt full of pvssies and sheep and still had and has some real men it.
Look im no anarchist but Im a tad older and wiser than I once once. Respect is a valuable commodity to me that is earned an I expect to earn.
Oliver Wendell Holmes said under the robe we as judges put our pants on like every man and we cannot forget as a judge what we know to be true as a man. Smart man. He was addressing the abuse of power and interpretation of the law as it pertains to basic right and wrong, something we all know and should be held to.

[2iron]

My source is the other 99.9% that don't do those crimes and haven't even been accused of doing so, which you choose to ignore because it doesn't favor your argument. I'm not a police officer but i respect them. Something you should learn to do.

You're the type of person that has someone break into your house, and then steal your car and you refuse to call the cops out of a pride issue. So you just let the car be stolen out of pure ignorance, when in reality you could call the police and have it given back to you in a matter of hours.

Cop is a generalized term. How about law enforcement?

[warlord_wang]

Can someone explain the phrase "anti american" to me?

Cos you hear it fired out there a lot for literally no apparent reason other than to sound patriotic etc and somehow by saying that statement its used as a justifier for whatever gibberish was stated

usually Racist white republicans say it basically you don't think like them or look like them.You don't fit that good ol American image.

[warlord_wang]

David your logic is so skewed it's not even funny.You basically are crying out that's it's immoral & not right to put Police into one category but hey police do it to blacks & other people of color.So double standards is alright in your book by your logic

[Shol'va]

Wwow did I ever open a can of worms starting this thread. I guess it's about time for me to start another one cause I'm goin fishin and need more worms....

[davidtheman100]

I can't believe that everyone thinks you can categorize all cops by the actions of a few others who have done bad things. That is discriminatory. It's like saying a couple black people commit crimes so they all do? That's not very fair is it?

[davidtheman100]

Yeah, if you live in Texas and someone broke into your house and you shot them, and the news skewed it so you looked like a bad person just because the person you shot was black you'd be thinking twice before saying the shit you're saying now. A law enforcement officers job is hard enough already without having a short leash by the public and media where if they don't act like a robot or approach a situation another way they're criticized as if the people criticizing are half as useful to society.

[Hoggage_54]

[davidtheman100]

Of corse you don't HAVE TO respect law enforcement. You don't HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. That's not what i'm saying. I just think that their jobs should be respected because of how they do a good job of keeping the streets safe for the most part and there have been countless times officers have risked or lost their lives saving people. I am saying that i respect the 99.9% that aren't corrupt. I am in no way, shape or form condoning corrupt officers but not EVERY OFFICER is a piece of shit like you guys are widely agreeing on.

[austinite]

Yeah, if you live in Texas and someone broke into your house and you shot them, and the news skewed it so you looked like a bad person just because the person you shot was black you'd be thinking twice before saying the shit you're saying now. A law enforcement officers job is hard enough already without having a short leash by the public and media where if they don't act like a robot or approach a situation another way they're criticized as if the people criticizing are half as useful to society.

No, that's not the case at all. Kind of all made up actually. You speak so much about TV and news, i'm starting to wonder if you're the one who is brain-washed. Stop watching so much TV.

[austinite]

Of corse you don't HAVE TO respect law enforcement. You don't HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. That's not what i'm saying. I just think that their jobs should be respected because of how they do a good job of keeping the streets safe for the most part and there have been countless times officers have risked or lost their lives saving people. I am saying that i respect the 99.9% that aren't corrupt. I am in no way, shape or form condoning corrupt officers but not EVERY OFFICER is a piece of shit like you guys are widely agreeing on.

Ok. I'll bite. So should the public be respected by police? Or is this another one way street with your theory? Because we ALL know that's not the case.

[Honkey_Kong]

I haven't had anything good to say about the police. In fact, I think the majority of them are shitbags. That doesn't mean there isn't a few good cops out there. Most will break the rules they see fit to varying degrees as their morals will allow.

But in this case, allegedly this kid provoked the cop by attempting to assault him. Now I'm not saying the kid got what he deserved, he didn't. What I am saying is if you got a guy who is carrying a loaded gun in front of you and he's bossing you around, you don't cop an attitude. If you are obedient, polite and trying to avoid confrontation, the likeliness of it escalating will be low.

If you're giving him attitude and being physically challenging, you should expect some sort of force to be used on you.

Best thing to do in the situation of dealing with cops is to be obedient and respectful. At the same time do not talk about anything with the police officer on hand. Request your right to representation in a respectful manner.

I'm sure if more people did this, there would be fewer incidents of police brutality.

[davidtheman100]

Ok. I'll bite. So should the public be respected by police? Or is this another one way street with your theory? Because we ALL know that's not the case.

It's not a one way street. Most cops respect people alot, more than we do them. Hence the reason they risk their lives for us which we wouldn't do for them. Also why they don't criticize when they're dealing with homeless or intoxicated people. They don't crack jokes about them, they don't laugh at them, like alot of the public does. They are trained to treat everyone well regardless of their standing on the social hierarchy. So in that aspect, i think that they're actually alot more respectful.

Citizens are alot worse, there are WAY MORE citizen crimes than law enforcement crimes. There is WAY MORE citizen judgement than law enforcement judgement. So that can justify maybe why they're more weary of people and don't trust them as much. There are many times where they aren't as careful as they could be and they end up losing their lives because of it.

[austinite]

It's not a one way street. Most cops respect people alot, more than we do them. Hence the reason they risk their lives for us which we wouldn't do for them. Also why they don't criticize when they're dealing with homeless or intoxicated people. They don't crack jokes about them, they don't laugh at them, like alot of the public does. They are trained to treat everyone well regardless of their standing on the social hierarchy. So in that aspect, i think that they're actually alot more respectful.

Citizens are alot worse, there are WAY MORE citizen crimes than law enforcement crimes. There is WAY MORE citizen judgement than law enforcement judgement. So that can justify maybe why they're more weary of people and don't trust them as much. There are many times where they aren't as careful as they could be and they end up losing their lives because of it.

Cops are always looking for trouble makers, right? So it's human nature to be suspicious all the time. I get that. However, there's a point where a cop needs to make a decision before he/she becomes abusive, or worse, trigger happy. That decision making process is what the majority lack. This is mostly due to poor upbringings, lack of education and more than likely some sort of wacky experience(s) during previous years.

You can't deny that the majority of cops received an instant and tremendous boost to their confidence once handed a badge and a gun. You also cannot deny that the majority are unable to handle this boost of confidence properly, which is resulting in horrific judgement, oversight and miscalculations across the board.

There aren't many people with a "Save the world" attitude; and we know that salaries aren't exactly a recruitment tool.

Take a look at how many people are in jail today. Take a look at the crimes the majority committed. You'll find they're victim-less and harmless crimes. How many lives and families have to be ruined before we realize that cops are not being held responsible?

When was the last time a cop drove faster than the speed limit for no reason, and his/her partner in the very same car issued a speeding ticket? Are you telling me that the majority of cops are so honest that the majority would write that ticket? You don't need TV or news to know the answer. What makes anyone think that worse doesn't happen? Such as drug deals, or letting someone get away with a major crime because it's a friend or relative?

Do you think that Mom, the police officer would imprison her unlicensed 15 year old for taking her car for a joy ride? My mind is a bit boggled right now because I have a feeling you might say yes.

Why can't you just admit that cops are not law abiding citizens and do not hold themselves to the same standard they hold the public? Why can't you just admit that they are not super-human?

Why can't we enforce laws with respect to cops, and why can't we have strict and severe punishment for their actions? In my opinion, a cop breaking a law is far worse, because of their choice in profession.

[austinite]

Here's some TV for you. Since you think everything on TV is untrue, tell me if this can be denied...

Now.. while you're watching, just think of how many people from the police department were involved in this deal, and how many of them decided to do the right thing. You'll find that MANY MANY MANY were involved, including high ranked officials and ZERO personnel decided to do the right thing. So is this department in it's entirety corrupt? A 9 day vacation... really?

According to your theory and strange calculations about the majority being good, that would mean this cop that caused this accident is the ONLY bad cop. You tell me...

[davidtheman100]

You aren't holding them to the same standard either. The mom wouldn't, and neither would the police officer that didn't know the girl. Cops have been known to just give people warnings on the minor incidents you're talking about. Sometimes do they give them tickets when they feel like they aren't being respected or sucked up to? Probably. But the ticket they give after that isn't unjustified in the first place.


People know the laws, and the punishments that people receive for certain crimes have absolutely nothing to do with the cops. The police just do the incarcerating. So if someone's life is ruined because of a crime they committed, it's because they weren't aware of what the consequences could be if they did it. Or else they wouldn't have done it. It's time for you to start holding people who commit crimes accountable for what they do. No such thing as a harsh consequence that's a cops fault, because they don't determine the persons fate past being jailed.



Like i said before, cops are on a very short leash. They get fired all the time for breaking small rules, it's just not as appealing to the media when a cop is fired for several misdemeanors which is why you don't hear about it as much. But it DOES HAPPEN EVERY DAY.

To be a cop you have to have little to no criminal record if not little none at all. So basically you're saying that they are good citizens their whole life, they want to be a police officer so they can contribute to society. They go through training, but once they get their badge and gun, they turn into a self confident douche bag who is corrupt and breaks laws in an instant? Something isn't adding up here.

[davidtheman100]

And nope. That's 1 instance i'm talking about. You're twisting my words and acting like you've cured cancer after doing so. Read back to what i said before you post a video contradicting yourself.

[austinite]

Missing the point AGAIN. You are saying that cops are not required to be lawful.

Got it. That's your stance. Here's mine...

If you're going to be a cop, hold yourself responsible as you do others. That NEVER happens.

[austinite]

And nope. That's 1 instance i'm talking about. You're twisting my words and acting like you've cured cancer after doing so. Read back to what i said before you post a video contradicting yourself.

Show me a contradiction.

[davidtheman100]

Show me where i said cops shouldn't be lawful lol?

[davidtheman100]

Yeah, you're a good cop if you save lives, work long hours, catch criminals, and don't speed. But you're a bad cop if you save lives, work long hours, catch criminals and speed.

[austinite]

Show me where i said cops shouldn't be lawful lol?

You aren't holding them to the same standard either. The mom wouldn't, and neither would the police officer that didn't know the girl. Cops have been known to just give people warnings on the minor incidents you're talking about. Sometimes do they give them tickets when they feel like they aren't being respected or sucked up to? Probably. But the ticket they give after that isn't unjustified in the first place.
There.

That's not a lawful cop. I don't care what you think is minor or major. Many so called minor incidents have killed people. You also admitted that tickets are given when they arent sucked up to. What a shame. What a shame.

[austinite]

Yeah, you're a good cop if you save lives, work long hours, catch criminals, and don't speed. But you're a bad cop if you save lives, work long hours, catch criminals and speed.

You keep avoiding questions and rambling off randomness. Seriously, just admit that the majority of cops have large amounts of sand in their vaginas. I'd estimate between 3 to 4 lbs of sand. That's a pretty big vagina, Kiddo.

[davidtheman100]

That's not a lawful cop. I don't care what you think is minor or major. Many so called minor incidents have killed people. You also admitted that tickets are given when they arent sucked up to. What a shame. What a shame.

Yeah i did. But the ticket is JUSTIFIED because they BROKE THE LAW anyway. So if you treat them well they won't give it at all. I think that's a very FAIR ORDEAL DONT YOU? I mean it happens all the time in society, people suck up for their jobs, people suck up to their teachers for grades etc. but you don't think that's unlawful because you're a walking contradiction of a person.

So you just said look at all the jails and see that all the offenses are all small and minor things that can ruin peoples lives. Yet at the same time, you're saying that they should be incarcerated every time regardless of the mildness of the crime.

Like i said, a human contradiction.

[davidtheman100]

You keep avoiding questions and rambling off randomness. Seriously, just admit that the majority of cops have large amounts of sand in their vaginas. I'd estimate between 3 to 4 lbs of sand. That's a pretty big vagina, Kiddo.

Randomness and you're talking about vaginas and pounds of sand? Just proving my point further. I was pointing out that you're worried more about little idiosyncrasies than the big picture.

[austinite]

SHOW ME IN THE LAW WHERE IT STATES ALL CITIZENS MUST SUCK UP TO COPS.

Waiting....................................

This is ridiculous, Cop. Also, I don't think you know what contradiction means. I think you just like saying it.

Later, Cop.

[austinite]

Randomness and you're talking about vaginas and pounds of sand? Just proving my point further. I was pointing out that you're worried more about little idiosyncrasies than the big picture.

Oh I'm sorry, Officer. Didn't realize that humor is not acceptable in the police force. Please don't arrest me. May I carry you to your car, Mr. Officer?

Would that be respectful and get me out of a ticket, Cop?

[davidtheman100]

You contradicted yourself 3 times and then called me a cop, when i'm not. Then you told me that i said all citizens should suck up to cops, when i didn't say that either.

Solid argument, really convincing. You must be a student of the law!

[austinite]

You contradicted yourself 3 times and then called me a cop, when i'm not. Then you told me that i said all citizens should suck up to cops, when i didn't say that either.

Solid argument, really convincing. You must be a student of the law!

Look at the quote above where I bolded your text and you accepted the fact. Oh, and I could argue the law very well, and bring treble damages, thank you.

I'll save you some time...

Contradiction | Define Contradiction at Dictionary.com

[davidtheman100]

Sorry to break your heart also while you're on your "trying to be funny" rant, but Dana Linn Bailey is on steroids too

[davidtheman100]

Yup, confirmed it. You should write down that definition on a little piece of paper so you can read it every time you get into an online argument so you don't look stupid.

[austinite]

lol. Go to your room, Kid. None of this matters anyway. The important thing is that everyone here now knows you're a cop. We always expose them. No big deal, but no need to lie about it.

[davidtheman100]

You've officially become the king of making things up. Colorful imagination really.

[2iron]

Might be off topic by now skipped some posts. Simple double standard law enforcement can give stickers to family and friends to place on their drivers license to not get ticketed.

true story. My parents neighbor highway patrol gave them one. A special license plate cover too. Ka92 I believe. Lets fellow coppers know they dont have to obey the laws eirher.

[davidtheman100]

Might be off topic by now skipped some posts. Simple double standard law enforcement can give stickers to family and friends to place on their drivers license to not get ticketed.

true story. My parents neighbor highway patrol gave them one. A special license plate cover too. Ka92 I believe. Lets fellow coppers know they dont have to obey the laws eirher.

That's not right, but it's not a huge deal. And that certainly isn't enough to call the majority of cops corrupt as a whole. People who work at Dunkin Donuts sometimes, take home donuts free when that's not in their job description. So it's basically stealing because everybody has had to pay for donuts all day, but since they work their, they get them free?

DUNKIN DONUTS WORKERS ARE CORRUPT DONUT STEALERS IT'S BULLSHIT

[austinite]

That's not right, but it's not a huge deal. And that certainly isn't enough to call the majority of cops corrupt as a whole. People who work at Dunkin Donuts sometimes, take home donuts free when that's not in their job description. So it's basically stealing because everybody has had to pay for donuts all day, but since they work their, they get them free?

DUNKIN DONUTS WORKERS ARE CORRUPT DONUT STEALERS IT'S BULLSHIT

wow. You are seriously unstable. You're justifying police corruption because dunkin donut employees steal donuts? That's your justification?

Amazing. You just made a massive fool out of yourself.

[davidtheman100]

wow. You are seriously unstable. You're justifying police corruption because dunkin donut employees steal donuts? That's your justification?

Amazing. You just made a massive fool out of yourself.

If your definition of police corruption, is giving their daughters a little leeway when they take the car without a license, or speeding without having a reason. You're the one that's a fool.