May be a bit controversial topic

[brazuka]

First off no need to get offended I believe in what I believe you believe in what you believe period. Just because we don't believe in the same things doesn't mean I'm attacking you or your beliefs. Moving on.

To keep things simple and short my family is catholic. They believe in god and I don't. No big deal. But to some of them they see me and talk differently about me now because of this. I don't bash their believes or look differently at them because they believe in god and I don't. I didn't go out of my way to tell them I don't believe in god but they know so keep it at that. To me the subject doesn't mean an ounce of anything so it's whatever. But to them they feel disappointed and think I'm evil or there is evilness inside of me or some crazy lunatic brainwashed thing in their heads. I can't express how much this drives me deeply, deeply away from them. Pathetic and sickening, I'm a very spiritual person but not in the sense of believing in god or religion. I don't want or need people like that in my life I cut people off for good extremely easy. So I could do that and it would be all good, no problems.

However one day when I have a son or daughter I'll need these people though because I want my child to have family in their lives. So it's hard to just cut these people off my life for good and frustrating because I really want to do it and can very easily do it without looking back. I mean I see them very little as it is but that's just because my sister just had a daughter and occasional family gatherings which I honestly feel now like not going to any of them anymore. This whole lunatic judgemental sickness is sad. I can't even look at some of them the same way anymore and can't take anything they say seriously because how shitty of a person do you have to be to let this affect your relationship with a family member? The reason why I don't believe in god, churches, religions or anything like that is partly due to this very reason.

Your a great, nice, friendly, caring and humble person but because you think differently you are casted out regardless. Like none of that matters what matters is that you believe in god. The majority of church going people are like this and this may get some people offended but it's been my experience with many people of the sort. If you look down on others and think you are better than them and their whole life is being lived wrong because they may not have the same believes as you when it comes to religion then you are a judgmental brainwashed person and you suck bad. There are tons of different religions in this world what makes you think yours is the one that is true and is better than the rest, everybody else is wrong and your right. Open up your minds!! All this makes me dispise church god and religion in general even more. Good job to those of you who are judgmental pricks thinking your better than everybody else and look down on others and talk crap about them because we don't believe in the same things you do. Even if we were the best person in the world in every aspect of life it wouldn't matter to you. You guys manage to fuel our fire and want to never look back into your beliefs or ways even more!! Way to spread the peace and love. What your spreading is actually hate and you are too close minded to see it. We are the ones who are truly dissapointed with you all.

[Honkey_Kong]

Well first of all, that judgemental behaviour that many Christians have is very much against what their faith believes in. If I recall, Jesus asked his disciples and the people he came across to spread the "good news." Now if you're being judgemental and driving people away, how can you be spreading the good news?

But now on to your faith (or lack of). How could that reason be the cause of your lack of faith? Isn't your relationship with God supposed to be between you and him?

I came from a Catholic family as well. I guess you could say my rational mind just couldn't blindly believe in The Invisible Man, who knows when I'm naught and when I'm nice, without any proof. However a couple years ago or so, I was reading Milton's "Paradise Lost" and as I was going through the story of Adam and Eve and before that when they were discussing Lucifer's fall from grace, I was compelled to actually read The Bible. And so I read the entire thing twice. To be honest, I found a lot of good wisdom inside of it (especially when discussing it's interpretations with other Christians and preachers). In fact, I think people on here a few times have seen me use biblical quotes to explain or justify a position on something I have.

After going through that, I've learned that despite wanting to believe in God, I just can't believe in something that I know will never in my lifetime be proven to be true. In fact, it's quite easy to make arguments against his/their existence (especially when they believed the healing of the sick was literally exercising demons from the poor possessed people).

But maybe I'm just wrong in all of that. What I will suggest to you is to take a good half hour to an hour every night before your head hits the pillow and read The Bible. Most believers have no idea what they're actually allegedly believing in. They just blindly believe in the Invisible Man, without even knowing what their faith is about. You might however find your faith in God through it.

[Khazima]

Sorry to hear about your situation, I also think it's sad when people can't just be accepting of the way others choose to live their lives as if it's wrong and their way is the only right way, especially if it's a family member.

I've always had a feeling that there is a higher power, but it leans more towards a belief in fate and acceptance, not an idol or a god.

I've been thinking about learning about Buddhism and the like, as it's more based around acceptable and what will be, will be etc. I think this would be an ideal way for anyone to live, give your all into life but just let things unfold the way they may.

It doesn't have to be written in a book, you just need to be content.

[marcus300]

If they think you have evil inside of you then they are fully brain washed like most religious fanatics. There are good people and bad people in every religion its not a solid case that your bad if you don't believe its just them living in the stone age of something what cant be proven. Some people rule their life's through these books which make them very closed minded. You do what you feel and be the best person you can in life to others and yourself if they wont except you fuk them. Most are living in the dark ages and life is to short to be governed by a book what's cause more war and harm in the world than anything else.

Be proud of yourself and life your life to your own morals and beliefs

[lovbyts]

Yeah unfortunately I think there are more hypocrites than true believers in religion.

They hear the words but they dont know what they mean. They pretend they do and persecute anyone who doesn't think like them, even true believers in there own religion.

Basically people just suck.

[Times Roman]

First off no need to get offended I believe in what I believe you believe in what you believe period. Just because we don't believe in the same things doesn't mean I'm attacking you or your beliefs. Moving on.

To keep things simple and short my family is catholic. They believe in god and I don't. No big deal. But to some of them they see me and talk differently about me now because of this. I don't bash their believes or look differently at them because they believe in god and I don't. I didn't go out of my way to tell them I don't believe in god but they know so keep it at that. To me the subject doesn't mean an ounce of anything so it's whatever. But to them they feel disappointed and think I'm evil or there is evilness inside of me or some crazy lunatic brainwashed thing in their heads. I can't express how much this drives me deeply, deeply away from them. Pathetic and sickening, I'm a very spiritual person but not in the sense of believing in god or religion. I don't want or need people like that in my life I cut people off for good extremely easy. So I could do that and it would be all good, no problems.

However one day when I have a son or daughter I'll need these people though because I want my child to have family in their lives. So it's hard to just cut these people off my life for good and frustrating because I really want to do it and can very easily do it without looking back. I mean I see them very little as it is but that's just because my sister just had a daughter and occasional family gatherings which I honestly feel now like not going to any of them anymore. This whole lunatic judgemental sickness is sad. I can't even look at some of them the same way anymore and can't take anything they say seriously because how shitty of a person do you have to be to let this affect your relationship with a family member? The reason why I don't believe in god, churches, religions or anything like that is partly due to this very reason.

Your a great, nice, friendly, caring and humble person but because you think differently you are casted out regardless. Like none of that matters what matters is that you believe in god. The majority of church going people are like this and this may get some people offended but it's been my experience with many people of the sort. If you look down on others and think you are better than them and their whole life is being lived wrong because they may not have the same believes as you when it comes to religion then you are a judgmental brainwashed person and you suck bad. There are tons of different religions in this world what makes you think yours is the one that is true and is better than the rest, everybody else is wrong and your right. Open up your minds!! All this makes me dispise church god and religion in general even more. Good job to those of you who are judgmental pricks thinking your better than everybody else and look down on others and talk crap about them because we don't believe in the same things you do. Even if we were the best person in the world in every aspect of life it wouldn't matter to you. You guys manage to fuel our fire and want to never look back into your beliefs or ways even more!! Way to spread the peace and love. What your spreading is actually hate and you are too close minded to see it. We are the ones who are truly dissapointed with you all.

What you describe also describes how cult members behave. They look at themselves as the insiders; true believers; people in "the know", and privileged for having this knowledge. Everyone else is an outsider and in most cases, not to be trusted. Insiders typically do not associate with outsiders. And they can become extremely defensive any time there is even a slight perceived transgression against their belief system.

Your family is like this. To make matters worse, you were given the opportunity to be an insider, and you rejected it. How can anyone reject such a privilege? How can any one reject god and everything he has to offer? Obviously, something is wrong. Obviously, there is something inside you that rejects Christ. And what else would do such a thing? Such an evil thing?

This is the thought process many cult members have.

So how do you deal with it? Someone who is brainwashed and has a mind only open to this line of reasoning?

Now think. You want children, right? That offer of being an insider you rejected? That very same offer will be made to your children. If you want your family to embrace your children, they will only do so if they feel they have a shot at bringing them into the fold. You may be ok with that, and that's cool. But what happens if you are NOT ok with that? Do you want your children to have to experience this very same rejection that you experienced?

[GirlyGymRat]

Basically people just suck.

Some do.

[GirlyGymRat]

honkey kong mentioned the great commission and here's where I see the rub. Your well meaning family wants you to receive but you aren't ready or willing. I know many religious ppl with poor understand of bible and it's teachings. Some never read the bible. Many don't know their church doctrine. There are bad Catholics, bad Jewish, bad baptist, bad Lutherans.

I don't understand how family can reject family. I have family that doesn't believe. Ok. So. I still love them and they love me. It's not godly to judge. Judge and you shall be judged.

Or Could you have a good case of the catholic guilt???

As far as the breaking ties for the sake of future children. It's a noble but it may not work out. Live your life.

[Metalject]

Most people just play religion on Sundays just like they play up an interest in politics one Tuesday in November every 2-4yrs. But as far as the judgmental aspect goes, it often works both ways - atheist often look down on religious people and view them as small minded idiots because of their beliefs. I'm not saying all do this, they don't, but it does often go both ways. There's a natural inclination to judge other human beings on their belief system or the lack of one, the lack of one being one just in the opposite direction. I'm not saying that makes it right, it's simply one of many natural yet negative inclinations people have and often have to make a conscience effort not to have.

As far as your family directly, if their faith is true and not just something they hold to as a label, it's understandable how they would have concern. That doesn't excuse judgmental behavior. However, I have often wondered if some people feel judgment that isn't there? An atheist might feel condemned by a Christian for his lack of faith or a Christian might feel condemned by an atheist for the presence of his own...I think this is a very real thing.

Kind of a side note, the comment you made about the 1000's of religions in the world and I include atheism in that list simply because lack of a belief is a belief...there may be 1000's upon 1000's of viewpoints and we're all free to hold to our own, but someone is right. There has to be a right answer.

[musclestack]

Most people just play religion on Sundays just like they play up an interest in politics one Tuesday in November every 2-4yrs. But as far as the judgmental aspect goes, it often works both ways - atheist often look down on religious people and view them as small minded idiots because of their beliefs. I'm not saying all do this, they don't, but it does often go both ways. There's a natural inclination to judge other human beings on their belief system or the lack of one, the lack of one being one just in the opposite direction. I'm not saying that makes it right, it's simply one of many natural yet negative inclinations people have and often have to make a conscience effort not to have.

As far as your family directly, if their faith is true and not just something they hold to as a label, it's understandable how they would have concern. That doesn't excuse judgmental behavior. However, I have often wondered if some people feel judgment that isn't there? An atheist might feel condemned by a Christian for his lack of faith or a Christian might feel condemned by an atheist for the presence of his own...I think this is a very real thing.

Kind of a side note, the comment you made about the 1000's of religions in the world and I include atheism in that list simply because lack of a belief is a belief...there may be 1000's upon 1000's of viewpoints and we're all free to hold to our own, but someone is right. There has to be a right answer.

Have you ever thought that the 'right' one has yet to be found? Therefore, no one, at present, is 'right'?

[lovbyts]

Some do.

And some suck better than others.

honkey kong mentioned the great commission and here's where I see the rub. Your well meaning family wants you to receive but you aren't ready or willing. I know many religious ppl with poor understand of bible and it's teachings. Some never read the bible. Many don't know their church doctrine. There are bad Catholics, bad Jewish, bad baptist, bad Lutherans.

I don't understand how family can reject family. I have family that doesn't believe. Ok. So. I still love them and they love me. It's not godly to judge. Judge and you shall be judged.

Or Could you have a good case of the catholic guilt???

As far as the breaking ties for the sake of future children. It's a noble but it may not work out. Live your life.

Why is simple stuff like that so hard for some/most people to understand when they hear it all the time???? Even as a kid I remember hearing and understanding this an seeing most all the members doing this and a lot more. It still boggles my mind how so many things are simple such as the above and how many of the (quote) leaders dont get it.

[Metalject]

And some suck better than others.



Why is simple stuff like that so hard for some/most people to understand when they hear it all the time???? Even as a kid I remember hearing and understanding this an seeing most all the members doing this and a lot more. It still boggles my mind how so many things are simple such as the above and how many of the (quote) leaders dont get it.

While it may be simple, would you not agree that it goes both ways?

[BG]

Man you guys dont know nothing about religion if you consider Catholics the way Christ-ones are supposed to live. You cant go by nothing they do as Godly. Faith has come a long way since Catholicism, they dont teach by scripture, they worship saints, they worship a man (POPe) , I could go on and on. They go against the word. Far from what FAITH is about.

[Grymreefer]

Family is blood whether you get along with them or not. I do agree with you on your view on religion. It seems to do nothing but create more separation within the human species. Just remember time is inevitable and eventually you could be in a situation where you want to talk to them, but time has done its justice and they no longer exist on this earth. The same would click in their mind (if they aren't completely mindless) that eventually time will take you away and your family would most likely want to have a decent conversation before this occurs.

Mother Teresa once said..."Yesterday is gone, tomorrow has not yet come. We have only today.." You never know if change can occur. It is better to do all you have done than wait till it is too late and be filled with regret on a "shoulda coulda woulda". That is just my 2 cents from a 23 year old. You look younger than most in your picture so there is still much life to live. Good luck with your decisions.

[Times Roman]

Man you guys dont know nothing about religion if you consider Catholics the way Christ-ones are supposed to live. You cant go by nothing they do as Godly. Faith has come a long way since Catholicism, they dont teach by scripture, they worship saints, they worship a man (POPe) , I could go on and on. They go against the word. Far from what FAITH is about.

True. I was reading awhile back, and Jesus read scripture with an open mind, subject to criticism, and not always to be taken literally.

Which is the opposite of what a bible thumper does............

[lovbyts]

While it may be simple, would you not agree that it goes both ways?

I'm not sure how you mean, give me an example.

[Deal Me In]

I can't relate as my family, (all catholic) doesn't seem to care much that I'm and atheist. I'm sure they find it disappointing but they don't seem to judge.

For your situation my response would be, get rid of the family. It's been said, but do you really want to put your children through that kind of judgment? You're an adult. You can handle it. I'm not sure a 10 year old needs that kind of thing in his life.

When your family asks why you don't bring your child around you simply tell them I don't want you judging him like you judged me. It's not fair and I won't subject my child to that kind of behavior.

[Honkey_Kong]

Man you guys dont know nothing about religion if you consider Catholics the way Christ-ones are supposed to live. You cant go by nothing they do as Godly. Faith has come a long way since Catholicism, they dont teach by scripture, they worship saints, they worship a man (POPe) , I could go on and on. They go against the word. Far from what FAITH is about.

Catholics don't worship the Pope, saints or even Mary. It's a common misconception that some protestants have over Catholics. And saints exist in other Christian denominations as well.

Saints are recognized for their nature of having "exceptional grace," but that is not to be confused with worship.

The main difference between the Roman Catholic church and other denominations (including the eastern orthodoxy) is in how the churches believe contemplation is achieved. Other than that, it comes down to ritualistic differences which are just a matter of culture.

[Metalject]

I'm not sure how you mean, give me an example.

The simple concept of not judging others, should it not go both ways? We're all familiar with people who hold to a faith judging others because they lack their faith, but many atheist or non-believers do the same thing - they judge people of faith. Atheist will often demean people of faith, directly or indirectly refer to them as idiots or small minded because of their faith, demean their intelligence or view them as simple minded or unenlightened simply because they hold to another set of beliefs. If non-believers do not like being made to feel as they are being judged, they should be willing to treat others in a non-judgmental way as well.

And no, I'm not implying that all non-believers do this any more than I think a sane person would imply all believers do this. I'm simply saying it's an issue on both sides of the fence. That said, we all hold to certain beliefs and those beliefs are the basis of how we view right and wrong, moral or immoral, and others shouldn't take it differing of beliefs as a judgmental type action simply because they differ.

[lovbyts]

OK I get you but I think you may have read to much into my meaning. I dont think I was being judgmental. I dont try to convince anyone of anything but am happy to discuss my belief if asked.

What I was trying to say was on a much more simple/basic level such as someone says they dont eat meat as they are eating a steak.

I rarely invited friends to church with me because I knew they would be brow beat after the service and not allowed to leave until they said they believe and accepted christ as their savior just so they could leave although it was always preached that you are not saved by your works or get anything extra in heaven because of the number of people/souls you got to accept christ but that sure is not how they acted.

I even had a preacher tell me once he was going to remove me from their membership if I visited my girlfriends church again because it was not the same as ours. Assembly of God vs Baptist. lol He was clueless and when I went toe to toe with him about it a few weeks later, after I visited her church again he backed down. It was not a matter of believing one thing vs another, it was a matter of being open minded and understanding.

[zempey]

I don't believe in organised religion. I believe in being a good person and trying to make the world a better place by raising my kid's to be better people, I don't need to read a book or go to a church to do that. I believe I will figure it out when I'm dead, that will be the only way to find out the truth if there is a god or not.

[Deal Me In]

The simple concept of not judging others, should it not go both ways? We're all familiar with people who hold to a faith judging others because they lack their faith, but many atheist or non-believers do the same thing - they judge people of faith. Atheist will often demean people of faith, directly or indirectly refer to them as idiots or small minded because of their faith, demean their intelligence or view them as simple minded or unenlightened simply because they hold to another set of beliefs. If non-believers do not like being made to feel as they are being judged, they should be willing to treat others in a non-judgmental way as well.

And no, I'm not implying that all non-believers do this any more than I think a sane person would imply all believers do this. I'm simply saying it's an issue on both sides of the fence. That said, we all hold to certain beliefs and those beliefs are the basis of how we view right and wrong, moral or immoral, and others shouldn't take it differing of beliefs as a judgmental type action simply because they differ.

Sadly, this is true. Being an active part of the atheist community I can tell you we have what we call militant atheists that walk around looking to pick a fight with believers. These types of people, in my opinion, are no better than the jesus freaks that knock on my door at 8 o'clock in the morning.

Personally, I don't discuss religion unless I'm specifically asked about it. I've long since given up trying to convince a believer of the fallacy of their ways. It's pointless and tiring.

I do get a kick out of telling the jesus freaks that come to my door that I'm a proud member of the Satanic Cult and I will listen to their pitch if they will come to one of my meetings and listen to my pitch.

[BG]

Catholics don't worship the Pope, saints or even Mary. It's a common misconception that some protestants have over Catholics. And saints exist in other Christian denominations as well.

Saints are recognized for their nature of having "exceptional grace," but that is not to be confused with worship.

The main difference between the Roman Catholic church and other denominations (including the eastern orthodoxy) is in how the churches believe contemplation is achieved. Other than that, it comes down to ritualistic differences which are just a matter of culture.

Ha they carry him over their shoulders, kiss his ring, ect, ect.


EDIT Worship may have not have been the correct word, but the idolize him which is forbidden by God.

[Metalject]

OK I get you but I think you may have read to much into my meaning. I dont think I was being judgmental. I dont try to convince anyone of anything but am happy to discuss my belief if asked.

What I was trying to say was on a much more simple/basic level such as someone says they dont eat meat as they are eating a steak.

I rarely invited friends to church with me because I knew they would be brow beat after the service and not allowed to leave until they said they believe and accepted christ as their savior just so they could leave although it was always preached that you are not saved by your works or get anything extra in heaven because of the number of people/souls you got to accept christ but that sure is not how they acted.

I even had a preacher tell me once he was going to remove me from their membership if I visited my girlfriends church again because it was not the same as ours. Assembly of God vs Baptist. lol He was clueless and when I went toe to toe with him about it a few weeks later, after I visited her church again he backed down. It was not a matter of believing one thing vs another, it was a matter of being open minded and understanding.

I wasn't implying that you were being judgmental, not at all. My comment was generalized, or at least it was intended to be. From what I can tell, you seem to be one of the more level headed guys on here. Of course, you can't really know someone that well from a message board, you could be a lunatic

[Honkey_Kong]

Ha they carry him over their shoulders, kiss his ring, ect, ect.


EDIT Worship may have not have been the correct word, but the idolize him which is forbidden by God.

He's not idolized either. Kissing the ring is just a matter of respect. Watch an old Italian mafia movie. They always kiss the boss's ring as a sign of respect. It's just some weird mainland euro culture that we, across the pond, just don't understand.

But the Pope is the elected head of the church, so he's the boss. But that doesn't mean the church hasn't ever rebelled against him before. There have been antipopes as well.

If you want something to dislike about the catholic church, look up how they feel they achieve contemplation (as I mentioned in an earlier post). I mean, I don't believe in anything, but I feel they're ridiculous in their belief of this.

[Times Roman]

Sadly, this is true. Being an active part of the atheist community I can tell you we have what we call militant atheists that walk around looking to pick a fight with believers. These types of people, in my opinion, are no better than the jesus freaks that knock on my door at 8 o'clock in the morning.

Personally, I don't discuss religion unless I'm specifically asked about it. I've long since given up trying to convince a believer of the fallacy of their ways. It's pointless and tiring.

I do get a kick out of telling the jesus freaks that come to my door that I'm a proud member of the Satanic Cult and I will listen to their pitch if they will come to one of my meetings and listen to my pitch.

we don't usually discuss the other extreme POV of metaphysics..... atheism. just as there are true believers, there are true disbelievers. I don't get true disbelievers either. So how is it that with so many unanswered questions, an atheist can make up their mind without knowing all the facts? You can be spiritual and believe in a metaphysical being that was involved in the creation of this universe, yet not believe in any particular scripture. I totally get that. But to say there is no possible way; the odds are zero, that a metaphysical being had any part in our creation/evoluciton (how the universe came to be), is about as extreme in the religious zealot that claims science is a pile of hoooey. How can anyone really know for sure, one way or the other? even scientists will tell you there is no way to know for sure.

isn't it better to keep one's mind open to possibilities and admit you don't know, than it is to close one's mind and pretend (or convince yourself) you do know?

There is no scientific basis in saying there is no supreme being. Being an atheist is just yet another leap of faith..........................?

[DADDYDBOL]

Man you guys dont know nothing about religion if you consider Catholics the way Christ-ones are supposed to live. You cant go by nothing they do as Godly. Faith has come a long way since Catholicism, they dont teach by scripture, they worship saints, they worship a man (POPe) , I could go on and on. They go against the word. Far from what FAITH is about.

you obviously have no idea what the Catholic religion is about.....not even somewhat close....but thanks for posting

[DADDYDBOL]

Catholics don't worship the Pope, saints or even Mary. It's a common misconception that some protestants have over Catholics. And saints exist in other Christian denominations as well.

Saints are recognized for their nature of having "exceptional grace," but that is not to be confused with worship.

The main difference between the Roman Catholic church and other denominations (including the eastern orthodoxy) is in how the churches believe contemplation is achieved. Other than that, it comes down to ritualistic differences which are just a matter of culture.

Thank you.....I have noticed that 99.9% of people like to talk about religions that they do not believe in like they are authorities on the matter....they are generally talking out of the asses to make their lack of faith acceptable to their small minds

[thegodfather]

Thank you.....I have noticed that 99.9% of people like to talk about religions that they do not believe in like they are authorities on the matter....they are generally talking out of the asses to make their lack of faith acceptable to their small minds

Having a lack of faith means you have a small mind? You're not serious right, do you want to metaphorically 'cast the first stone?' Judge not lest ye be judged. You bible thumpers would be wise to remember that when trying to have an argument with those of us who don't believe a magical Sun god created the earth in 7 days and then wrote a book 4.899 billion years later to tell his humans how to live life. Is there anything you religious people actually agree on? There are so many factions among Christianity, the shit looks like the United Nations, and we all see how well that organization functions.

I know all about being judgemental, a large part of my family are Jehovah's Witnesses, and while they don't worship any idols or pagan holidays, they 'strictly' interpret the bible to mean anyone who isn't in their religion is a steaming hunk of shit, to be pitied and shunned, unless of course you're interested in what they have to say about how to live your life. They are not by any means alone in their self-righteousness and self-aggrandizement, just about every other faction of Christianity is right there with them.

[thegodfather]

you obviously have no idea what the Catholic religion is about.....not even somewhat close....but thanks for posting

You guys from the south are the reason we Republicans have trouble winning elections, with your 'I wanna make laws so you have to live your life how I say," BULLSHIT! It makes my blood boil. Who cares what he thinks about Catholicism or religion in general? Do you know what they call people who get that butt hurt about what other people think of their God? an ISIS member.

[austinite]

Lmao. You're awesome, GodFather!

[DADDYDBOL]

Having a lack of faith means you have a small mind? You're not serious right, do you want to metaphorically 'cast the first stone?' Judge not lest ye be judged. You bible thumpers would be wise to remember that when trying to have an argument with those of us who don't believe a magical Sun god created the earth in 7 days and then wrote a book 4.899 billion years later to tell his humans how to live life. Is there anything you religious people actually agree on? There are so many factions among Christianity, the shit looks like the United Nations, and we all see how well that organization functions.

I know all about being judgemental, a large part of my family are Jehovah's Witnesses, and while they don't worship any idols or pagan holidays, they 'strictly' interpret the bible to mean anyone who isn't in their religion is a steaming hunk of shit, to be pitied and shunned, unless of course you're interested in what they have to say about how to live your life. They are not by any means alone in their self-righteousness and self-aggrandizement, just about every other faction of Christianity is right there with them.

lmao.....ugh....no i was referring to people that talk about something they do not know....as in people that have never attended mass speaking about the Catholic religion.....you made a pretty good example here

by the way i'm not religious.....but thanks for casting the first stone....well done

[DADDYDBOL]

You guys from the south are the reason we Republicans have trouble winning elections, with your 'I wanna make laws so you have to live your life how I say," BULLSHIT! It makes my blood boil. Who cares what he thinks about Catholicism or religion in general? Do you know what they call people who get that butt hurt about what other people think of their God? an ISIS member.

so what you're saying is you are butt hurt right?

and we are the reason republicans have a hard time winning? really? you should probably think about things before you type them,.....that is the most idiotic thing i have ever read....lol

[DADDYDBOL]

Lmao. You're awesome, GodFather!

so what's the deal with dana? seriously another mans wife......and you change it all the time.....creepy stalker much?

[GirlyGymRat]

Wow. Didn't take long to go south :/

[kelkel]

Lmao. You're awesome, GodFather!

Was about to comment myself, but you nailed it. Great comments....

[austinite]

so what's the deal with dana? seriously another mans wife......and you change it all the time.....creepy stalker much?

I do it to piss idiots off like you.

[clarky.]

GOD. WHO ???

[zempey]

Religious topics are the best, there is no winning, everyone has their own beliefs and ideas. I went to church as a kid, I just shake my head and wonder how they keep getting people to fall for that shit. I go to church 5 days a week, iron church, that's where I find my inner peace.

[thegodfather]

Religious topics are the best, there is no winning, everyone has their own beliefs and ideas. I went to church as a kid, I just shake my head and wonder how they keep getting people to fall for that shit. I go to church 5 days a week, iron church, that's where I find my inner peace.

The difference is that we passively shake our heads and wonder how it is they believe what they do, while those on the other side at church aggressively shake their heads, shun those who don't believe what they do, and go on crusades to convert people by peer pressure, coercion, or the use of violence. We on the other hand, are just curiously in amazement at how they believe what they do, but treat them no differently for their beliefs. Recognizing this contrast is crucial.