Well, two dumbasses tried taking Jihad into their own hands, little did they know, Americans shoot back!
They did not make it too far!
Muhammad cartoon contest: Note to jihadists, in America, we shoot back | Fox News
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Well, two dumbasses tried taking Jihad into their own hands, little did they know, Americans shoot back!
They did not make it too far!
Muhammad cartoon contest: Note to jihadists, in America, we shoot back | Fox News
Yeah, there are places to jihad, and there are places not to jihad.
They chose poorly.
Texas baby. We're armed, always. ALLLLLLWAYS.
What was done is not SAD. How it was done was Sad. Its amazing how many times "freedom of speech " was used to stir up the shit just so people can have 15 minutes of fame. Its media that twis things so more people view it. Wont say much.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaginCajun
Pretty sure cops shoot back in most places and that everyone is aware of this. It's not like they were gunned down by a civilian, so gun advocates can simmer down.
And the men were from Phoenix, so they were fully aware that Texans and Texas LE have guns. They just happened to suck at committing mass murder.
Also, that news piece sounded like it was written by the writers of "America's Wildest Police Chases". (Imagine the host/narrator reading this article in his most dramatic voice)
That said, kudos to that LE officer for performing his duties so effectively and thwarting a would-be Charlie Hebdo tragedy.
I am an advocate of CC. Enuf said.
Outstanding marksmanship by that guy. And the terrorists were wearing body armor as well....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonaparte
Whatever, if LE didn't get them, civilians would have. Not the case anywhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonaparte
I would not be shy about admitting how good it would have felt to take out a couple of scum like that myself.
I have to agree. That officer was up against two assault rifles and pulled his service pistol and sent excellent, well placed rounds down range. As a Muslim who lives in an Islamic country, we all feel the people who do this type of shlt are senseless criminals in the eyes of Islam and they are not considered Muslims.Quote:
Originally Posted by kelkel
They got less than what they deserved. Should have wounded them and paraded their bloody bodies down Main St. in Garland/Dallas by dragging them by their feet at 30mph.
BTW before any of you ask, I have no issues with the Cartoons and I am a huge advocate of Free Speech. I consider the Cartoons to be Art and an expression of such. Hell I might even have attended the show just to see the Artwork if I had been in Garland.
CC is pretty popular in Dallas area; they wouldn't have gotten many if LE missed them.Quote:
Originally Posted by austinite
Too right. Being from the UK where it's completely different, I can't help but wish it was the same. If a guy breaks into my house and I attack him then I'm likely to go down for assault over here! The line between us is not thin.Quote:
Originally Posted by austinite
There are places and situations that happen like that here also. Sad but true the justice is messed up in a lot of places.Quote:
Originally Posted by cardifffizzle
The strangest thing about all of this is the comparisons being made between Garland and the Charlie Hebdo incident. Notice the media is bashing the people who put on the event in Garland saying they provoked the attack, almost saying they earned an attack. But with Charlie Hebdo, these same people in the media praised Charlie Hebdo as protectors of free speech. Moreover, in terms of offensive, Charlie Hebdo is far more graphic and offensive.
Do I think it's stupid to purposely do things to offend others? Of course it is, but that's the only type of free speech that needs to be defended. It's easy to defend free speech you agree with. But in the U.S. the media at least, they are once again playing both sides of the fence. The only reasons the media is bashing the event in TX is because it was put on by a labeled right wing group, that is the only reason. Beyond that, what was done in TX and what was done in France is the same thing.
Just another example of how America is losing its mind.
How many people actually knows what Jihad actually means?
I do for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by calgarian
Well I think in the case of these two (and many others) it's not the inner struggle (spiritual) but the outward struggle against the infantile s or enemies.Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarian
Who cares what jihad means? All that matters is that there is a large segment of the muslim world that wants to kill you and anyone else that isn't like them. You know what's hysterical? The muslim extremist are the most bigoted people in the world, yet the liberal asshats here in the U.S. will defend them to the ends of the earth. They'll say things like, if we all just sat down in a room and talked. OK, fine, just make sure there are no Jews, homosexuals, women or christians, and if that's the case, talk away.
How can you be against something you dont even know what it means? killing other people is not Jihad otherwise we have one of the biggest Jihad in Baltimore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalject
We are growing in #s each day.Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
I never said I did or did not know what it means. The true definition of jihad is irrelevant, the definition doesn't change what is or isn't happening. Does the true definition of naziism matter? Most people have no concept of what a nazi actually is, but nearly everyone can agree that what the nazis did was horrible, and the definition itself really bares no relevancy. I'm against people killing other people because they don't share their beliefs or because one of them has been offended by another. Their cause, beliefs or desires are completely irrelevant to me once they start behaving as they are. And that would hold true regardless of religious belief. If a jew, christian or anyone else did the same, I would say the same. When you act like an animal, you lose your right to be treated as anything other than an animal.Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarian
So in another words what you are saying you are against killing specifically one human killing another. Correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalject
observation..
it was a successful mission... an outside group (ISIS) ordered 2 people that are with inside the USA to conduct an armed attack.. they were armed and protected although it seems not trained very well....
did they fail?? depends on the mission, if it was to say "your enemy is inside your gates" they succeeded..
if it was to kill a bunch of folk that will not bow to islam = failed..
Is that the group who is recruiting teen ager kids all over northe America? is thats the case their religion is money nothing elseQuote:
Originally Posted by spywizard
For the most part, the exception being killing to protect yourself or others from being killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarian
Killing because someone holds different views = wrong
Killing because someone has offended you = wrong
Killing because your religion says kills those not like you = wrong
Killing to take something that belongs to someone else = wrong
Killing to stop any of the above = right
they are here through Minnesota, yes, they are waste of resources as contributing human beings, forget the culture, but we can't really, it's what makes them valueless...Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarian
when i say that, it's an opinion based on observed behavior, their values are not the same as mine, i pay taxes, give my children moral values that do not harm others, and values human life with compassion and dignity.. that culture does not, it's just that simple, it was observed, and measured and found to be without value to the social values I hold dear.
now, if anyone wants to argue that slavery, rape, and homosexual activity with boys as young as age 8 although different from my own values is ok simply because it's what's normal to the islamic community, then we'll just have to disagree.. and if I'm attacked, i'll defend myself as best I can..
I took an oath long ago that i have not been released from and to my death I will take that oath.. until which time my Government that i pledged that oath fails to uphold those things that this country were founded on.
I always tend to stay away threads like that cause then it turns into people getting mad at each other based on their beliefs. But I think the group you are talking about isnt it out of some 3rd world country Sudan or some and believe me religion got NOTHING to do with this. by twisting and brain washing kids at 12 or older (i have seen examples from my friends kids) so no matter what religion they carry I will go after them personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by spywizard
So basically religion got nothing to do with this. Religion is just the cover we like to hide ourselves . Assholes are always be assholes no matter the religion. Islam , Christianity or Being a Jew got nothing to do with anything. Its just that asshole will be assholes , no matter what the religion is. Crusades , Jihad is just the covers they hide under.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalject
Some guy told me a long time ago i like that what good thing about religion is that its open for interpretation and bad thing about religion is that its open from interpretation. My only problem is that when will we realize that people are using religion as a cover and not everyone that follows that religion is the same.
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Originally Posted by spywizard
I will challenge your malicious statement. Its very alarming that you would characterize an entire religion because of the acts of a few.
Before I became a Muslim I was Catholic, and we all know of and have heard the allegations surrounding the Catholic church as well as many other Christian sub-faiths. Would it be fair to say that all Christians do the same? I think not. Would it be fair to say that all Morman men rape 8 years old girls because of the acts of a few fundamentalist? I think not. I can go on and on about this. I challenge you to research Islam and even visit Islamic countries so that you can have a better view of whats really going on.
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Originally Posted by Metalject
Education is paramount before we delve into a topic that most know nothing about. Please research your statements before you make an uneducated post. After all your title is "Knowledgeable Member" and by your post I will argue that you aren't.
Wow Wmaousley I did not expect that from you but am glad to hear it. Now if we can get all other Muslims to think and feel as you do that would be awesome indeed. One thing if you would answer for me is this...why do a lot of younger men on the radical side of the faith think that there are 74 virgins waiting in paradise just for them? The reason i ask is this. Now if we were to strap on a bomb and blow ourself to smitherines we are now in spiriitual form and what good are 74 virgins then? Know what I mean? don't these kids even think about that when some of the mullahs are telling them to blow theirselves up for the religion telling them that those 74 virgins will be waiting for them when they get there on the boom boom express. Just curious if you have any input on this. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by wmaousley
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Originally Posted by Shol'va
Are they women who have died? Or newly created beings?
Sorry but that interpretation is incorrect. It's not Virgins, it's Virginians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shol'va
http://images3.fotki.com/v37/photos/...Virgins-vi.jpg
I never said I did or did not know what the definition of jihad is. But the definition of anything becomes a mute point, in my opinion, when certain actions are taken. And muslim extremist are bigots, just as many christian extremist are. That does not define the entirety of that faith's people, but a bigot is a bigot regardless of his pronounced faith.Quote:
Originally Posted by wmaousley
No where in the Quran does it state anything about72 Virgins. It comes from a Hadith that very likely was never said by the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Similar to the "Satanic Verses" most Christians here about, it is a falsehood that has gained amazing popularity in Western news but has been vouched for by only the strangest fringe of Muslims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shol'va
As for your question I have no idea why these idiots think like this. Mainstream Islam attributes this to "Brainwashing" the weak into believing such things.
I haven't been to Heaven and don't plan on going anytime soon so I have no idea, but I would imagine and most will agree that there cant be "Beings" in heaven.Quote:
Originally Posted by Euroholic
Its a mythical statement/falsehood anyway.
My comment wasn't directed at your Jihad statement. It was directed at the statement "All that matters is that there is a large segment of the muslim world that wants to kill you and anyone else that isn't like them. You know what's hysterical? The muslim extremist are the most bigoted people in the world, yet the liberal asshats here in the U.S. will defend them to the ends of the earth."Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalject
Bigots exists in all forms of religion, life, business, culture, politics etc. Mainstream Islam which accounts for 99.9% of all Muslims does not want to kill anyone. That's an "asshat" statement. If you are going to post shlt like that then you need to post the credible sources of that information. This is why education will help you understand what is really going on. Like I said bigotry comes in all forms, so don't fall into that category.