Talking to shitheads

**Jesusbrah** · 04-01-2015, 06:16 PM

So a friend of mine told me today that he is considering taking his first cycle. He is about 5´5 and 85 lbs. What im saying is that his dick is probably thicker that his arms. Been lifting for a couple of months.

He said he wanted to take 200 mg of test a week. I said it was a bad idea, and that he should really lift for a couple of years before considering this and meanwhile focus on diet. He said his diet is perfect bla bla bla.

I continue asking what else he is gonna take (ai, hcg and pct), he says "oh, i dont need that. A guy i know told me that i will gain 40 lbs of this with just the test."

Finally, after a long discussion, i gave up and decided to let him continue with his bullshit.

So how do i tell him that he is an f*king idiot and that he needs to get this idea out of his head?

**austinite** · 04-01-2015, 07:03 PM

Ask him to join the forums.

**pitweiler** · 04-01-2015, 07:09 PM

I had a couple friends that wanted to do cycles the wrong way. I showed them this site and the info how to cycle properly. One didn't listen but the other did.

**djgreen** · 04-01-2015, 07:25 PM

I have the same problem sometimes I just put it in a nutshell tell them what there doing wrong and the dangers. Either they listen or they don't, some people are just full of it and have to make there own mistakes you cant teach someone that already knows it all

**NACH3** · 04-01-2015, 08:11 PM

I have a friend whose cycled very unsuccessfully if you ask me(all water weight but strong as shit) doesnt know what an AI/HCG /clomid/nolvadex /or PCT(so basically everything and has two kids a family and is rich on top of it... On the other hand others take in my advice or come to the forum...

Ya can't teach the know it alls

**fitnesstrainer** · 04-02-2015, 03:01 PM

Same thing here with a buddy of mine.

**Back In Black** · 04-02-2015, 03:20 PM

Imagine that,msomebody not listening to great advice given to them. Like advising a 19 year old not to do their first test cycle and then advising them not to run tren as a second cycle whilst still a teenager but they know better?!?!

Glass houses and stones spring to mind

**Euroholic** · 04-02-2015, 03:33 PM

I use to hear this stuff fairly often. all you can do is shake your head and say ok. People will make there own decisions

**Gaspaco** · 04-02-2015, 03:52 PM

85lbm ???

How is that even posible

**Euroholic** · 04-02-2015, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Gaspaco

85lbm ???

How is that even posible

I had to google the translation. Its 38.5kg thats like a kid

**uhit** · 04-02-2015, 05:22 PM

I was one of those shitheads

Until I joined this forum and learned through others being utterly destroyed for cycling too early/unsafely and thus to not damage my e-penis, decided to not do anything for the time being.

So far, my e-penis is good to go and I haven't done anything harmful to the body.

**Jesusbrah** · 04-02-2015, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Imagine that,msomebody not listening to great advice given to them. Like advising a 19 year old not to do their first test cycle and then advising them not to run tren as a second cycle whilst still a teenager but they know better?!?!

Glass houses and stones spring to mind

Well, the difference is that i try to learn what the consequences of my actions will be like, instead of being an idiot and think steroids are a quick fix.

Originally Posted by Gaspaco

85lbm ???

How is that even posible

Slight exaggeration, but he is f*cking skinny!

**Back In Black** · 04-03-2015, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Jesusbrah

Well, the difference is that i try to learn what the consequences of my actions will be like, instead of being an idiot and think steroids are a quick fix!

Oh, that's ok then. As long as there is one rule for you when you're ignoring advice and another rule when you're giving it.

**Honkey_Kong** · 04-03-2015, 02:34 AM

The best thing to do right now isn't really to warn him of the potential dangers. Just simply point out the fact that he's 5'5 and under 100lbs. Steroids aren't going to fix that, he's got to learn how to eat and workout. And a couple months of going to the gym and struggling with a bar that doesn't have any weight on it isn't going to cut it.

The best thing to do is to inform him that all he'd be doing is risking health all for nothing. He's not going to make any real gains doing what he's currently doing.

**Jesusbrah** · 04-03-2015, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Oh, that's ok then. As long as there is one rule for you when you're ignoring advice and another rule when you're giving it.

Wtf? Sounds like youre calling me a hypocrite.

First of all, youre missing the point. Im trying to stop him from f*cking himself. Second, at the age of 19 i have more fitness experience the 99% of people concidering steroids (yeah, i said it) and have spend years trying to get all the information i can about steroids before trying it. Im far off from an expert, but i certantly know all the basics to cycle safe. There's a huge difference between what i do (knowing exactly what im getting myself into), and what he does (thinking that he live in fairyland and that everything will work out fine no matter what he does).

**Back In Black** · 04-03-2015, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Jesusbrah

Wtf? Sounds like youre calling me a hypocrite.

First of all, youre missing the point. Im trying to stop him from f*cking himself. Second, at the age of 19 i have more fitness experience the 99% of people concidering steroids (yeah, i said it) and have spend years trying to get all the information i can about steroids before trying it. Im far off from an expert, but i certantly know all the basics to cycle safe. There's a huge difference between what i do (knowing exactly what im getting myself into), and what he does (thinking that he live in fairyland and that everything will work out fine no matter what he does).

'Fitness knowledge' doesn't save you from the risks of cycling at your age, but nice try. Yes, I'm calling you a hypocrite, I think you are the one missing the point.

**scotty51312** · 04-03-2015, 09:46 AM

Ahhh to be 19 again and know everything. Like when i was 19 and stacked 5 different andro cycles together blew up like a balloon and deflated just as quickly. Some people are like me and have to make a mistake in order to learn. Once you give them good advice I say its out of your hands and should be off your mind.

**Jesusbrah** · 04-03-2015, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

'Fitness knowledge' doesn't save you from the risks of cycling at your age, but nice try. Yes, I'm calling you a hypocrite, I think you are the one missing the point.

'Fitness experience' (not knowledge), as in experience working out, dieting etc. My point was that i have a foundation of both muscle and knowledge/experience to do this the safest way possible (regardless of age) and i know every outcome that might happen, all the pros/cons bla bla bla, and thats because i have spent a great time trying to learn about cycling. But my friend hasnt, he is just a impulsive dumbass that does the first thing that comes to his mind without knowing the consequences. Two very different things.

Hypocrite | Define Hypocrite at Dictionary.com

**Back In Black** · 04-03-2015, 10:10 AM

Maybe I meant shithead and not hypocrite then........

**Jesusbrah** · 04-03-2015, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

Maybe I meant shithead and not hypocrite then........

Nice opinion you have there, to bad its wrong

**bsh** · 04-03-2015, 10:47 AM

When I was 19 I didn't expect to live past 30, lol... So as u age u gain wisdom and now I can only look back and laugh... U to will realize that in the end... Just hope u haven't damaged ur self from ur reckless actions

**Back In Black** · 04-03-2015, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Jesusbrah

Nice opinion you have there, to bad its wrong

Lol, you're a funny one that's for sure.

**lovbyts** · 04-04-2015, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jesusbrah

Wtf? Sounds like youre calling me a hypocrite.

First of all, youre missing the point. Im trying to stop him from f*cking himself. Second, at the age of 19 i have more fitness experience the 99% of people concidering steroids (yeah, i said it) and have spend years trying to get all the information i can about steroids before trying it. Im far off from an expert, but i certantly know all the basics to cycle safe. There's a huge difference between what i do (knowing exactly what im getting myself into), and what he does (thinking that he live in fairyland and that everything will work out fine no matter what he does).

Yeah at 19 so did I but not as much anymore. Sounds funny but it's true, it's funny how life has a way of getting in the way and changing long term goals. Most all of us can relate to having it all figured out at 19 and being smarter than 90% of the population. It's funny how 20 years later we all lol at our 19yr old self.

Originally Posted by bsh

When I was 19 I didn't expect to live past 30, lol... So as u age u gain wisdom and now I can only look back and laugh... U to will realize that in the end... Just hope u haven't damaged ur self from ur reckless actions

Ha, it's that a fact and I have the beat up body and injuries to prove I didnt expect to live this long. lol

**Jesusbrah** · 05-17-2015, 04:24 PM

Just a little update; He decided to take 175 mg of prop for 5 weeks...

**lovbyts** · 05-17-2015, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Jesusbrah

Just a little update; He decided to take 175 mg of prop for 5 weeks...

And still no AI or PCT?

After his cycle give him sh*t and say he GF told you he cant get it up now. lol

Sometimes you just have to bite your tongue and walk away. I have a LONG time buddy who I have tried to explain even TRT to once he started down that path and he told me I was wrong about every single thing I told him but after a few months and now 1yr he has started doing everything I said he should do or consider but of course never said I was right about anything.

RA · 05-17-2015, 10:39 PM

Joining AR and finding out the truth is best. I listened to idiots in the beginning as well...

**ks1234** · 05-23-2015, 01:40 PM

To have my dick as big around as my arm...

Makes me think of that photoshopped arnold pic. lol

**davidtheman100** · 05-23-2015, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Jesusbrah

So a friend of mine told me today that he is considering taking his first cycle. He is about 5´5 and 85 lbs. What im saying is that his dick is probably thicker that his arms. Been lifting for a couple of months.

He said he wanted to take 200 mg of test a week. I said it was a bad idea, and that he should really lift for a couple of years before considering this and meanwhile focus on diet. He said his diet is perfect bla bla bla.

I continue asking what else he is gonna take (ai, hcg and pct), he says "oh, i dont need that. A guy i know told me that i will gain 40 lbs of this with just the test."

Finally, after a long discussion, i gave up and decided to let him continue with his bullshit.

So how do i tell him that he is an f*king idiot and that he needs to get this idea out of his head?

To be honest i have lots of friends in early 20's athletes that i hung around with at my school and whenever the talk of steroids or PED's comes up (which is kind of often and to be expected) even though i know they know nothing i just keep my mouth shut and let them talk even if it's burning inside... The fact that i'm natural now and they all think i have to be on gear to look like i do would assure them that i am because they're dumb shits who don't know how to diet to low BF%... Sometimes you have to just let someone else take the verbal W and then the physical L.. There doesn't need to be an "I told you so" aspect to it either...I'm a firm believer in karma in the bodybuilding world