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    Since when did Plus Size become Morbidly Obese?

    I was watching TV last night and glanced over at my Wife's People Magazine on the couch.

    Look at this Woman, her name is Tess Holliday. She's 5'5, 280 pounds and a Size 22. Since when did a Woman with these dimensions become "Plus Size" in the media? In years past, "Plus Size" typically referred to Women who were Size 12, 14 or even a 16 if I recall correctly. Not a Size 22

    She is NOT a Plus Size, this Woman is Morbidly Obese!

    What are we becoming when we glorify irresponsible behavior like this?

    IDK, I just found this very disturbing...

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    Calgarian, thoughts?

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    I did not read this ppl mag article but saw countless fb articles on same subject liked by friends. Ok. The friends who liked this are overweight. No surprise. Lol

    Size 22 is not plus size. The avg USA woman is a size 12 therefore in this vain perhaps 22 is still plus.

    Is 22 morbidly obese? I am not s medical doctor but think they would conclude yes.

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    Wow yes let's let ppl think it's ok and healthy to be overweight this country is ****ed haha

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    That's just outright fat. I doubt she's only a size 22 also

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    The media are trying to create something new and they are exploiting the "21 century" attitude to everything. Apparently it is ok to be deadly obese. I bet a $100 that the people who write this bull is obese themself and are trying to make themself feel better about their "weight problem".

    That woman is fat and unatractive, plain and simple. Good for her that she is comfortable in her own skin, but its disgusting the way she and the media is "promoting" being fat as a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggage_54
    Calgarian, thoughts?
    I am awaiting his response as well

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    Ya the whole thing is not a good situation and very misleading in my opinion. People need to talk straight to one another honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesusbrah
    The media are trying to create something new and they are exploiting the "21 century" attitude to everything. Apparently it is ok to be deadly obese. I bet a $100 that the people who write this bull is obese themself and are trying to make themself feel better about their "weight problem". That woman is fat and unatractive, plain and simple. Good for her that she is comfortable in her own skin, but its disgusting the way she and the media is "promoting" being fat as a good thing.
    Media is part of this problem as u rightly point out.

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    I posted this on Facebook along with my opinion. Very first comment. . A fat girl attacking me on my judgementalism.

    It was so hard not to just say. . You're part of the problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl
    I posted this on Facebook along with my opinion. Very first comment. . A fat y girl attacking me on my judgementalism. It was so hard not to just say. . You're part of the problem!
    How did you respond?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    How did you respond?!?
    I just didn't. Soon others joined me in agreement (men and women).

    Then i threw another comment in about the word "proud". It seems people have forgotten what pride is. She's fat and proud? She didn't do anything but eat cake and pizza and ice cream, sit on the couch and watch tv.. where does the pride come from?

    Pride is a sense of accomplishment. Accomplishments are gained through hard work. She has nothing to be proud of.

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    This country has become a politically correct, please-the-minority-before-yourselves type of environment..God forbid anyone call this woman fat..You'd be buried by every C-list movie star out there publicly (who really doesn't give a shit but it would def help their career if they aren't getting much work) you'd get a bunch of libs acting like they give a f*ck as well to please the majority of people..27.7% obese rate this year opposed to 27.1 last year..Great job Michelle Obama..Feed the kids oranges and apples and salad wraps instead of 200 calorie ice creams and chicken patties with cheese for lunch so that they can starve themselves and then pig out on mcdonalds when they get home because their hunger hasn't been satisfied for 12 hours...The administration thinks they're being good people but they're really only calling them subliminally fat by going to speak at seminars for obesity in front of fat kids and changing the kids f*cking foods and telling them they're nice kids and should be comfortable in their body while they're REALLY trying to change them but they make magazines like this as back up for when their plans fail and call everyone a bigot that calls them fat and addresses the REAL problem so it's a win-win for them...

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    Good shout austinite we in the uk are facing a similar problem with these fat people i dont care about being pc if its ok fir them to rape our taxes and nhs bills i believe ive paid for my opinion and as if theyre really proud you got into that state because you got chubby/lazy your partner binned you so you comfort ate your fat arse up to a size 18 then when blokes stopped hitting on you coz your a lard arse guess what turn to the cake again as cake has no feelings the cycle continues this rant isnt quite over but il see what responses come before i use another breath lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I see what you did there, all those girls are a combined size 22. Nice!
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    Considering she weighs around 240lb she is undeniably obese!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Considering she weighs around 240lb she is undeniably obese!
    My lord. But she'd be great to squat/deadlift when you can't go to the gym in a pinch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uhit View Post
    My lord. But she'd be great to squat/deadlift when you can't go to the gym in a pinch!
    No, she wouldn't. See that would mean you'd have to touch her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    No, she wouldn't. See that would mean you'd have to touch her.
    See, this is where we will disagree, I will have no problems touching a bigger girl, in fact, I will enjoy every last bit of it :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong
    No, she wouldn't. See that would mean you'd have to touch her.
    Lol this is exactly what I though. Not gonna lie I don't even look at fat people. It's awkward for me for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    See there? The one in purple to the left. .

    That's plus size.

    Not the fat cow in the magazine

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    I for sure made some enemies over Tes. Some fb friend posted her article a while back and you know me, I didnt hold back. LoL

    Bottom lime is she is Fat, obese and the only good thing is she will be dead and forgotten soon because you dont see many old fat, obese people.

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    I was walking through a store in the mall today and I saw a sign that said "plus sized extended"...

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    It's our politically correct world where you can't be ashamed of anything anymore. Nothing's wrong anymore, near anything is permissible.

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    I cant help but think of a good of Benjamin Franklin quote;
    “I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

    I think this stands true in many aspects of life including someones health.
    All this political correctness is doing so much more harm than good.
    Trying to make it okay to be obese is ridiculous and stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewZ View Post
    "I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer."
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    I'm not obese, so hopefully I can say something about this.

    I have mixed feelings about this. It's obvious that it is better to be a healthy weight, but ultimately health is so much more than just weight as demonstrated by the loads of slim women who binge, vomit and/or constantly take any number of pills in the quest to be slim enough to get social approval, and that has zero to do with health, but is no problem. There are obviously many examples of self-inflicted (and expensive) health crises and people don't get emotional about those. So, sorry to not be in on the circlejerk, but I don't believe for a second that this is about health.

    I don't know what drives people to eat compulsively so their bodies massively distort like that, or what drives alcoholics or drug addicts, but I'm pretty sure all of those people are in some kind of pain.

    I also don't buy the rhetoric that it's about political correctness - they are fat, drunks are drunks, junkies are junkies. I don't think the issue is calling it what it is, I think it's the abject nastiness and intense hatred that gets expressed whenever this topic is raised. No one in everyday life speaks calmly about health problems and what is happening with the obesity problem. People get all worked up and think people who are fat and in obvious pain should die and the world should be rid of having to look at them. Anything other than these people living every day in shame and misery is unacceptable, as though their fatness abrogates their humanity.

    I find myself silently judging fat people when I see them on the street, and I wonder why I have an emotional reaction to people who honestly have nothing to do with me. I think about why my first thought isn't related to something like compassion or kindness or is at least neutral. And decent. Of course those people would want to avoid the masses of scorn and hatred that are heaped on them if they could - but for whatever reason, they are struggling and can't manage. Honestly, I think it must have to with me because no fat person has ever done anything unconscionable to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites
    I'm not obese, so hopefully I can say something about this.

    I have mixed feelings about this. It's obvious that it is better to be a healthy weight, but ultimately health is so much more than just weight as demonstrated by the loads of slim women who binge, vomit and/or constantly take any number of pills in the quest to be slim enough to get social approval, and that has zero to do with health, but is no problem. There are obviously many examples of self-inflicted (and expensive) health crises and people don't get emotional about those. So, sorry to not be in on the circlejerk, but I don't believe for a second that this is about health.

    I don't know what drives people to eat compulsively so their bodies massively distort like that, or what drives alcoholics or drug addicts, but I'm pretty sure all of those people are in some kind of pain.

    I also don't buy the rhetoric that it's about political correctness - they are fat, drunks are drunks, junkies are junkies. I don't think the issue is calling it what it is, I think it's the abject nastiness and intense hatred that gets expressed whenever this topic is raised. No one in everyday life speaks calmly about health problems and what is happening with the obesity problem. People get all worked up and think people who are fat and in obvious pain should die and the world should be rid of having to look at them. Anything other than these people living every day in shame and misery is unacceptable, as though their fatness abrogates their humanity.

    I find myself silently judging fat people when I see them on the street, and I wonder why I have an emotional reaction to people who honestly have nothing to do with me. I think about why my first thought isn't related to something like compassion or kindness or is at least neutral. And decent. Of course those people would want to avoid the masses of scorn and hatred that are heaped on them if they could - but for whatever reason, they are struggling and can't manage. Honestly, I think it must have to with me because no fat person has ever done anything unconscionable to me.
    ^^^^ like ^^^^

    I've clicked on this thread a few times and really didnt know how to express my thoughts other than..... Who cares? Over weight people are everywhere. They don't affect my life directly..... Not everyone values a fit body like some. People value different things..... Money, friends, etc. We value fitness and can't expect everyone to like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    I'm not obese, so hopefully I can say something about this.

    I have mixed feelings about this. It's obvious that it is better to be a healthy weight, but ultimately health is so much more than just weight as demonstrated by the loads of slim women who binge, vomit and/or constantly take any number of pills in the quest to be slim enough to get social approval, and that has zero to do with health, but is no problem. There are obviously many examples of self-inflicted (and expensive) health crises and people don't get emotional about those. So, sorry to not be in on the circlejerk, but I don't believe for a second that this is about health.

    I don't know what drives people to eat compulsively so their bodies massively distort like that, or what drives alcoholics or drug addicts, but I'm pretty sure all of those people are in some kind of pain.

    I also don't buy the rhetoric that it's about political correctness - they are fat, drunks are drunks, junkies are junkies. I don't think the issue is calling it what it is, I think it's the abject nastiness and intense hatred that gets expressed whenever this topic is raised. No one in everyday life speaks calmly about health problems and what is happening with the obesity problem. People get all worked up and think people who are fat and in obvious pain should die and the world should be rid of having to look at them. Anything other than these people living every day in shame and misery is unacceptable, as though their fatness abrogates their humanity.

    I find myself silently judging fat people when I see them on the street, and I wonder why I have an emotional reaction to people who honestly have nothing to do with me. I think about why my first thought isn't related to something like compassion or kindness or is at least neutral. And decent. Of course those people would want to avoid the masses of scorn and hatred that are heaped on them if they could - but for whatever reason, they are struggling and can't manage. Honestly, I think it must have to with me because no fat person has ever done anything unconscionable to me.
    I do not know what to say about this but, WOW! I could never have written those words in that manner, yet it encapsulates exactly how I feel. Just fantastic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard
    ^^^^ like ^^^^ I've clicked on this thread a few times and really didnt know how to express my thoughts other than..... Who cares? Over weight people are everywhere. They don't affect my life directly..... Not everyone values a fit body like some. People value different things..... Money, friends, etc. We value fitness and can't expect everyone to like it.
    Overweight people do affect us. They end up costing this country billions every year and are far more likely to be on any type of government assistance.

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    My only problem is this magazine empowering unhealthy lifestyles.

    i could care less if somebody is fat. But don't sell it as "ok" or even "beautiful". It's gross, not beautiful.

    My grudge isn't against the woman in the article. Its against the article itself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armykid93

    Overweight people do affect us. They end up costing this country billions every year and are far more likely to be on any type of government assistance.
    Indirectly yes..... But so do smokers and poor people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    Indirectly yes..... But so do smokers and poor people
    I have a problem with them too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl

    I have a problem with them too.
    Right..... But these things will never change. So to live life hating them makes no sense. I can't be so negative as to see a fat person at the supermarket and think about how much I dislike them lol. I'd rather worry about the price of my chicken
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Holy kushna, what was this thread about. Phat?

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    I wouldn't say I'm grossed out by every fat person i see. i live in one of the fattest states in the country.

    I am grossed out when they're not clothed appropriately (which happens a lot, ever seen people of walmart?). And that's what happens when people magazine tells them to be proud of their bodies
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl View Post
    I wouldn't say I'm grossed out by every fat person i see. i live in one of the fattest states in the country.

    I am grossed out when they're not clothed appropriately (which happens a lot, ever seen people of walmart?). And that's what happens when people magazine tells them to be proud of their bodies
    Yeah that's the worst when they have stuff flopping out every where. And they think they are hot, throw some tattoos and piercings in it and you have a Walmart shopper.....

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