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    UFC and their drug testing. .

    So i heard the other day, that one of the fighters tested "too high" for testosterone .

    We all know that means he's on test.

    So my curiosity, why aren't charges brought on? I mean i know trt is legal, with a script. . But if they test too high they're obviously on a superphysiological dose. But seems to me like the gaming commission would just give the DA the drug test results and they'd prosecute for steroids ? It seems like a bullet proof case.

    So why don't athletes ever get prosecuted for steroids?

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    Looks like they are really are locking down on the testing of the fighters. It will be interesting to see if the NFL or Boxing and NBA NHL will follow their lead.

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    Probably because each individual body is different. No one was there to see how much he took..... It doesn't cause any kind of physical impairment to where the public is in danger.

    I guess you could argue that no one saw someone boot H or drink alcohol but they cause physical impairment so?
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    Sure, but if anyone of authority found out any of us are using, regardless of any other law broken, no doubt they'd prosecute. They'd at least give us a big fine and take the gear, perform a search warrant Etc.

    Maybe not. Personally i wish they'd just legalize it and stop talking about it. . But since it is illegal, and athletes ate admitting to using, i just wonder why prosecution hasn't happened.

    Same question could apply to pro bb'ers i suppose.

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    A lot of them that fail use pro hormones as an excuse. UFC is really changing the whole way they drug test. They also don't do anything to fighters who test positive for cocaine out of competition. (Jon Jones)

    They are a young sport I assume is why. Things are getting tougher for the athletes there. They used to allow TRT, with ridiculous acceptable levels that anyone cycling would be proud to have. I thing it was 6x the normal range.

    Here is their new testing if you care to read it - UFC confirms partnership with USADA, details of out-of-competition testing program | MMAjunkie

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    I did appreciate the read, thank you.

    I was leaning more toward the criminal courts? I understand different entities have punishments in place, but a publicly announced failed drug test. . It seems to me like the state would prosecute such a case

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    For sure. Looking at it that way though, I work construction and if I failed a drug test for weed, cocaine or RX drugs I would just be fired. That would be the end. I think if the athlete was caught with illegal drugs (not just in their system) it would be a completely different story.

    I don't know why a person never gets prosecuted for having illegal substances in their body (except DUI) but that seems to be the norm.

    Edit - actually caught one of my typos

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    I thought you had to be over 40yrs old to even be allowed to use TRT and fight MMA - regardless - shit 6x the normal level - is a cycle lol...

    I just see it as a political statement... They very well can prosecute for having alcohol in system but not drugs(illegal)... Lol idk

    I mean look at what they did to Bonds/Clemens/Pettite/A-Rod etc - they're still trying to bring charges up against Bonds(why?) why not everyone else b/c he's sticking w/his story...
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    As others stated, use is not illegal. Possession is.
    The former does not give the cops reason to search one's home for the latter.
    The only common exception is when intoxication and motor vehicles are combined; but even then, they have to be caught red-handed, drunk behind the wheel.
    I can tell a cop that I love driving drunk and did it last night and he can't do anything. Just like I can tell him that I use steroids , but that alone wouldn't give him cause to search my house for steroids (unless I gave specifics about their location, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte
    As others stated, use is not illegal. Possession is. The former does not give the cops reason to search one's home for the latter. The only common exception is when intoxication and motor vehicles are combined; but even then, they have to be caught red-handed, drunk behind the wheel. I can tell a cop that I love driving drunk and did it last night and he can't do anything. Just like I can tell him that I use steroids, but that alone wouldn't give him cause to search my house for steroids (unless I gave specifics about their location, etc).
    Can you please elaborate on this? I am truly confused. You can admit guilt and they can't search you? I did not know that.

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    Unless you say "I use steroids and keep them in my bed room drawer" he has no basis for a search warrant or your house or property
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    Unless you say "I use steroids and keep them in my bed room drawer" he has no basis for a search warrant or your house or property
    No one asked you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    No one asked you.
    Failure is not and option..... ONLY beyond failure is - Haz

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    LMAO. Hazard = Better than Hoggage with pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armykid93 View Post
    Can you please elaborate on this? I am truly confused. You can admit guilt and they can't search you? I did not know that.
    It basically falls under freedom of speech. We can admit to drug use in general terms, but not to condemning specific details about possession. I don't have a legal education, so I can't explain it much more than that. I took a few "criminal justice" classes in college and have deduced this from observation.

    Now, cops can probably pat you down for drugs if you say too much to one in person during a "pedestrian stop" or whatever they call it, but that varies by state. They're allowed to be more aggressive in those situations because they can claim that it is for their own safety or some BS.
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