Matt Kroc now transgender.

**GingerbeardJ** · 07-31-2015, 04:02 PM

Has anyone else seen this yet. Pretty well....... Strange to say the least.

http://youtu.be/OWWkiPLZqP0

**djgreen** · 07-31-2015, 04:12 PM

dam!!! who woulda thunk

**Euroholic** · 07-31-2015, 04:13 PM

I really struggle to understand these people.Society needs to set limits on its citizens or oneday someone is going to marry a lamppost

Here is another one
The US Navy Seal who went from Chris to Kristin - BBC News

**GingerbeardJ** · 07-31-2015, 04:29 PM

I could really care less about it. It doesn't affect me in anyway it's their life, body and choice. This one just interested me cause he was definitely alpha male status now he's alpha tranny status?

**Euroholic** · 07-31-2015, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by GingerbeardJ

I could really care less about it. It doesn't affect me in anyway it's their life, body and choice. This one just interested me cause he was definitely alpha male status now he's alpha tranny status?

Could not

**Euroholic** · 07-31-2015, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by GingerbeardJ

I could really care less about it. It doesn't affect me in anyway it's their life, body and choice. This one just interested me cause he was definitely alpha male status now he's alpha tranny status?

I just cant understand it.

**Hazard** · 07-31-2015, 04:37 PM

**GingerbeardJ** · 07-31-2015, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Could not

yes thanks SIR

**Euroholic** · 07-31-2015, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlike...uld_care_less/

**Euroholic** · 07-31-2015, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by GingerbeardJ

yes thanks SIR

I am not a sir i have never been knighted i am not a person of authority over you.

**krugerr** · 07-31-2015, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

I really struggle to understand these people.Society needs to set limits on its citizens or oneday someone is going to marry a lamppost Here is another one The US Navy Seal who went from Chris to Kristin - BBC News

In this day and age, I think everyone has the right to express who they are. Marrying a lamp post is crossing a line into the weird. But being transgender is normal. It's as simple as they feel like they're trapped in the wrong body.
I don't think anyone should be forced to live like that because you, or society think it weird.

Plus, if you abolished transgenderism. What porn would I watch?!?

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**Euroholic** · 07-31-2015, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by krugerr

In this day and age, I think everyone has the right to express who they are. Marrying a lamp post is crossing a line into the weird. But being transgender is normal. It's as simple as they feel like they're trapped in the wrong body.
I don't think anyone should be forced to live like that because you, or society think it weird.

Plus, if you abolished transgenderism. What porn would I watch?!?

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How can they feel trapped? All they know is the body they have. They do not know what it feels like to be a women. What was weird a few decades ago is now normal. imagine the world to come in the next 50 years.The west as a decent society has defiantly peaked. Things like this that changes a societies values should be brought to a public referendum.

**Sicko** · 07-31-2015, 06:04 PM

We are definitely spiraling towards another Sodom and Gomorrah. Fire and brimstone Human Sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.

**lovbyts** · 07-31-2015, 06:32 PM

I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

**GingerbeardJ** · 07-31-2015, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

laughed at that part pretty good.

**RaginCajun** · 07-31-2015, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

Me too!

**bloodchoke** · 07-31-2015, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by krugerr

In this day and age, I think everyone has the right to express who they are. Marrying a lamp post is crossing a line into the weird. But being transgender is normal. It's as simple as they feel like they're trapped in the wrong body.
I don't think anyone should be forced to live like that because you, or society think it weird.

Plus, if you abolished transgenderism. What porn would I watch?!?

^^awesome.
That's how I feel. I don't relate first hand but I take their word for it. Who the hell am I to tell them how they feel or how they identify? So we have to build some gender-neutral bathrooms? Big deal. That's a small price to pay for people to feel like their needs are considered, even if their needs aren't completely understood.

**thisAngelBites** · 08-01-2015, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

How can they feel trapped? All they know is the body they have. They do not know what it feels like to be a women. What was weird a few decades ago is now normal. imagine the world to come in the next 50 years.The west as a decent society has defiantly peaked. Things like this that changes a *societies values should be brought to a public referendum.

It's a shame your imagination does not allow you to have a sense of anything other than your own experience. Have you not been criticised enough on this board to learn the lesson that not everyone thinks like you?

What do the sexual and gender choices of other people have to do with you? I am pretty sure none of them care in the slightest whether you understand their feelings.

The ridiculous idea of bringing something to a public referendum with the hope that the majority will quash the minority when the minority's behaviour is peaceful and hurts no one is nothing but oppressive. I continue to be amazed by the number of people who don't mind oppression as long as they are not the one being oppressed.

And there is no such thing as "societies values" [sic] - that's an invented idea that does the work of letting people believe different things, whilst giving the impression they all agree. Ever have ten people in a room for a meeting? It's impossible to reach a consensus, and someone in authority has to make a choice between competing views. It's a patently and demonstrably false idea that you take a group of millions of people and say that there is any such notion of values that are completely shared by them.

* society's

**Euroholic** · 08-01-2015, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

It's a shame your imagination does not allow you to have a sense of anything other than your own experience. Have you not been criticised enough on this board to learn the lesson that not everyone thinks like you?

What do the sexual and gender choices of other people have to do with you? I am pretty sure none of them care in the slightest whether you understand their feelings.

The ridiculous idea of bringing something to a public referendum with the hope that the majority will quash the minority when the minority's behaviour is peaceful and hurts no one is nothing but oppressive. I continue to be amazed by the number of people who don't mind oppression as long as they are not the one being oppressed.

And there is no such thing as "societies values" [sic] - that's an invented idea that does the work of letting people believe different things, whilst giving the impression they all agree. Ever have ten people in a room for a meeting? It's impossible to reach a consensus, and someone in authority has to make a choice between competing views. It's a patently and demonstrably false idea that you take a group of millions of people and say that there is any such notion of values that are completely shared by them.

* society's

Every society has its laws and is governed by how its people deem to be acceptable. If people feel oppressed then so be it. They are they ones trying to change the popular vote so it should be made difficult to convince the majority. the masses will always have the say because that is just democracy. . That is why i like the idea of a referendum because it lets the public voice its opinion. For or against who cares about the result. As long as the people get to vote its all gravy.
Gender is not a right it a luck of a draw

**Hazard** · 08-01-2015, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Every society has its laws and is governed by how its people deem to be acceptable. If people feel oppressed then so be it. They are they ones trying to change the popular vote so it should be made difficult to convince the majority. the masses will always have the say because that is just democracy. . That is why i like the idea of a referendum because it lets the public voice its opinion. For or against who cares about the result. As long as the people get to vote its all gravy.
Gender is not a right it a luck of a draw

Lets say Marcus brought it to a vote that all of Australia has a say. Lets say he wanted everyone to vote on redistributing your life savings and using it as he sees fit. The masses decided they could better use your money to benefit society as a whole..... Would you be okay with that?

**Euroholic** · 08-01-2015, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

Lets say Marcus brought it to a vote that all of Australia has a say. Lets say he wanted everyone to vote on redistributing your life savings and using it as he sees fit. The masses decided they could better use your money to benefit society as a whole..... Would you be okay with that?

Its not about being ok with it you can not please everybody. But If the majority of the public want something then that is the voice of the nation. That is democracy. Obviously you are governed by the laws of your country etc.

**Hazard** · 08-01-2015, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Its not about being ok with it you can not please everybody. But If the majority of the public want something then that is the voice of the nation. That is democracy. Obviously you are governed by the laws of your country etc.

So if Marcus started a vote on the board to ban you, to change your title, or to change your user name...... And everyone voted and agreed.... That's acceptable

**Euroholic** · 08-01-2015, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

So if Marcus started a vote on the board to ban you, to change your title, or to change your user name...... And everyone voted and agreed.... That's acceptable

That would be admin/system admin decision mate. This website is not governed the same way a functioning Democratic government is. This website is a business enterprise with a pecking order. You know this haz

**thisAngelBites** · 08-01-2015, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

So if Marcus started a vote on the board to ban you, to change your title, or to change your user name...... And everyone voted and agreed.... That's acceptable

We actually only need 51% to agree, Haz.

**RigPig** · 08-01-2015, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

So if Marcus started a vote on the board to ban you, to change your title, or to change your user name...... And everyone voted and agreed.... That's acceptable

Could you imagine if Marcus could change his user name lol.
I have a feeling "right proper thick cvnt" as well as some other choice words would be utilized.. Haha.
Euro, I don't know the story behind it, but those words seems to be common when I read Marcus posting to you lol.

**thisAngelBites** · 08-01-2015, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Every society has its laws and is governed by how its people deem to be acceptable. If people feel oppressed then so be it. They are they ones trying to change the popular vote so it should be made difficult to convince the majority. the masses will always have the say because that is just democracy. . That is why i like the idea of a referendum because it lets the public voice its opinion. For or against who cares about the result. As long as the people get to vote its all gravy.
Gender is not a right it a luck of a draw

I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out a more intelligent response than that.

I think people always knew there was a chance that they could end up with a populace full of voters as simple as you, and thinking about that, civilised governments introduced counter-majoritarian protections against the majority that wants to deprive people of rights for no good reason, thankfully.

**RigPig** · 08-01-2015, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out a more intelligent response than that.

I nominate this for one of Jimmys Gems on Jimmyinkedup's signature lolol. Straight to the point TAB- nicely done lol

**bloodchoke** · 08-01-2015, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Every society has its laws and is governed by how its people deem to be acceptable. If people feel oppressed then so be it. They are they ones trying to change the popular vote so it should be made difficult to convince the majority. the masses will always have the say because that is just democracy. . That is why i like the idea of a referendum because it lets the public voice its opinion. For or against who cares about the result. As long as the people get to vote its all gravy.
Gender is not a right it a luck of a draw

The use of underground AAS is illegal in Australia. Society has spoken; are you conforming?

**davidtheman100** · 08-01-2015, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by gingerbeardj

has anyone else seen this yet. Pretty well....... Strange to say the least.

http://youtu.be/owwkiplzqp0

lmfao

**GingerbeardJ** · 08-01-2015, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by RigPig

I nominate this for one of Jimmys Gems on Jimmyinkedup's signature lolol. Straight to the point TAB- nicely done lol

couldn't agree more! Spit my coffee out lol!!

**Euroholic** · 08-01-2015, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by thisAngelBites

I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out a more intelligent response than that.

I think people always knew there was a chance that they could end up with a populace full of voters as simple as you, and thinking about that, civilised governments introduced counter-majoritarian protections against the majority that wants to deprive people of rights for no good reason, thankfully.

A voter as simple as me? Because i care about living in a decent soceity that makes me simple? You respond with a personal attack ok bull good job. You would be the type of person that would approve any law just so that you can feel good inside and not realise that good governance requires strength and a Tough love approach the minority can not control the majority. Again every country(society) is different. What one fines acceptable the other does not. So you live where ever it is you live and i am going to live where i live.

**noon** · 08-02-2015, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

So if Marcus started a vote on the board to ban you, to change your title, or to change your user name...... And everyone voted and agreed.... That's acceptable

You will have my vote on the name change. Any one have any ideas?

**Hoggage_54** · 08-02-2015, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

So if Marcus started a vote on the board to ban you, to change your title, or to change your user name...... And everyone voted and agreed.... That's acceptable

BRB starting a poll.

**Bonaparte** · 08-02-2015, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Every society has its laws and is governed by how its people deem to be acceptable. If people feel oppressed then so be it. They are they ones trying to change the popular vote so it should be made difficult to convince the majority. the masses will always have the say because that is just democracy. . That is why i like the idea of a referendum because it lets the public voice its opinion. For or against who cares about the result. As long as the people get to vote its all gravy.
Gender is not a right it a luck of a draw

In your overzealous attempt at championing democracy, you've somehow managed to go fully fascist. Good job.
You're arguing as though the transgendered are trying to force everyone else to become transgendered, not merely make a few small concessions that allow them to live decent lives.

**Euroholic** · 08-02-2015, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

In your overzealous attempt at championing democracy, you've somehow managed to go fully fascist. Good job.
You're arguing as though the transgendered are trying to force everyone else to become transgendered, not merely make a few small concessions that allow them to live decent lives.

What you do in your home is up to you but once you step out in the streets your a citizen and its your job to uphold the integrity of the nation. If you change laws for one tiny subculture then you should change it for every subculture that is just not feasible mate that is why a "theoretical line in the sand" is drawn in how we are governed so that while not everyone is happy most are. That is as good as it is ever going to get.

I am not a fascist!!! Why would you type that? There is no label for my political views. I like capitalism but i also like nationalism and i like free healthcare for the people that can not afford it. I understand not everyone thinks like me but that is good that is democracy. Everyone gets a voice. Does not mean your voice matters but it is still heard.

**Euroholic** · 08-02-2015, 04:50 PM

Words seem to be interpreted differently when they are written rather then spoken

**Bonaparte** · 08-02-2015, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

What you do in your home is up to you but once you step out in the streets your a citizen and its your job to uphold the integrity of the nation. If you change laws for one tiny subculture then you should change it for every subculture that is just not feasible mate that is why a "theoretical line in the sand" is drawn in how we are governed so that while not everyone is happy most are. That is as good as it is ever going to get.

I am not a fascist!!! Why would you type that? There is no label for my political views. I like capitalism but i also like nationalism and i like free healthcare for the people that can not afford it. I understand not everyone thinks like me but that is good that is democracy. Everyone gets a voice. Does not mean your voice matters but it is still heard.

Because you sound like a complete fascist. You're all for trampling on the minority because it is what you view as what is best for the majority. This is exactly how Hitler and Mussolini operated. They were democratically elected (you know, by the "majority" that you're so fond of), then used that "will of the populace" crap as a pretense to stomp out and oppress everyone that didn't fit into their concept of an ideal world. Sound familiar?

**Bonaparte** · 08-02-2015, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Words seem to be interpreted differently when they are written rather then spoken

From here you sound like a raving totalitarian lunatic. Is that not how you sound when you shout while typing your drivel?

**Euroholic** · 08-02-2015, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Because you sound like a complete fascist. You're all for trampling on the minority because it is what you view as what is best for the majority. This is exactly how Hitler and Mussolini operated. They were democratically elected (you know, by the "majority" that you're so fond of), then used that "will of the populace" crap as a pretense to stomp out and oppress everyone that didn't fit into their concept of an ideal world. Sound familiar?

I don't condone trampling on people everyone has rights but i don't agree with changes to laws just to suit a minority. If that minority can convince the masses than that is good that shows the people accept the change. You can not make everyone happy.

**Euroholic** · 08-02-2015, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

From here you sound like a raving totalitarian lunatic. Is that not how you sound when you shout while typing your drivel?

Im not trying to come across oppressive i have good intent in my heart.
I think about the country that i love. To keep it as a good place to live for the future generations so they can enjoy it like i have.