Political question

[Euroholic]

Now the way you said that Islam is threat to world I have issue with. Did you mean to say radical Muslims? I don't think any religion is threat to anybody unless it's dealt with assholes claiming to belonging to that. Let's face it, Every religion have asshole.

Islam is not a religion. It is a political and social ideology with a religious undertone. Most of the muslims in the world are not true muslims they are either so called "westernised muslims" or they just identify as a muslim but not understand much of the teachings. This is due to upbringing.

Now the word islam means submission. And the ideology of islam is all about submitting yourself to "god" don't question don't have independent thought. Just do as told.

Now muslims believe that moh was the last prophet and revelations where made to him. Now when you study the life of moh you realise that he was just a cvnt he was not a prophet. He was just a horrible person. He could have lived peacefully in medina but he chose to invade mecca etc etc.

Now the Quran is the muslims book that trumps everything to them. But you also have the haddith and the sunna these are the sayings and the doings of moh. Muslims believe in abrogation. So If there are 2 contradictory statements in the quran muslims go for whatever come latter because that verse abrogated the other one.

So all those peaceful things you read in the quran that was all at the start when moh was in mecca and defenceless. But later on when he was in medina and he had more supporters the killing verses came out. Because that is what islam teaches. You can lie, deceive to non believers for the betterment of islam. So when muslims are in the minority you will hear them being all peaceful etc but as they slowly grow in to a major minority they become more harassing and demanding and they launch their defence jihad. And when they are in the majority god help ya. They will launch their offence jihad. Christians/jews(people of the book) will be forced to pay a tax(jizya) anyone deemed a apostate will be killed. Etc etc real muslims do not believe in man made laws they believe in gods law above all else.


So in conclusion islam preaches hate and wants to unify the world under their ideology. Most muslims in the world are not true muslims the ones you see committing attacks they are actually carrying out true islam. So the problem is not muslims it is islam. I personally believe moh was inspired by the devil.

Just food for thought, ask your self this question. In islam they believe that moh was the greatest example of a human. Now the bloke married a 6 year old girl. It was revealed to him that his adopted son must divorce his wife so he could marry her(she was apparently stunning, how convenient for moh)He killed his enemies after battle. People that made fun of him where killed. He hated dogs so he killed them. He beheaded nearly 900 jews in a single day. He received 20% of all stolen property. Muslims are only allowed 4 wifes but he is allowed an unlimited amount. He had between 9-13 wifes and upto 50 sex slaves. That is just off the top of my head there is more. Now with all that in mind do you think a true prophet of god would do this? And if it was would that even be a god you would want to worship? Did jesus do any of that?.

[Obs]

Islam is not a religion. It is a political and social ideology with a religious undertone. Most of the muslims in the world are not true muslims they are either so called "westernised muslims" or they just identify as a muslim but not understand much of the teachings. This is due to upbringing.

Now the word islam means submission. And the ideology of islam is all about submitting yourself to "god" don't question don't have independent thought. Just do as told.

Now muslims believe that moh was the last prophet and revelations where made to him. Now when you study the life of moh you realise that he was just a cvnt he was not a prophet. He was just a horrible person. He could have lived peacefully in medina but he chose to invade mecca etc etc.

Now the Quran is the muslims book that trumps everything to them. But you also have the haddith and the sunna these are the sayings and the doings of moh. Muslims believe in abrogation. So If there are 2 contradictory statements in the quran muslims go for whatever come latter because that verse abrogated the other one.

So all those peaceful things you read in the quran that was all at the start when moh was in mecca and defenceless. But later on when he was in medina and he had more supporters the killing verses came out. Because that is what islam teaches. You can lie, deceive to non believers for the betterment of islam. So when muslims are in the minority you will hear them being all peaceful etc but as they slowly grow in to a major minority they become more harassing and demanding and they launch their defence jihad. And when they are in the majority god help ya. They will launch their offence jihad. Christians/jews(people of the book) will be forced to pay a tax(jizya) anyone deemed a apostate will be killed. Etc etc real muslims do not believe in man made laws they believe in gods law above all else.


So in conclusion islam preaches hate and wants to unify the world under their ideology. Most muslims in the world are not true muslims the ones you see committing attacks they are actually carrying out true islam. So the problem is not muslims it is islam. I personally believe moh was inspired by the devil.

Just food for thought, ask your self this question. In islam they believe that moh was the greatest example of a human. Now the bloke married a 6 year old girl. It was revealed to him that his adopted son must divorce his wife so he could marry her(she was apparently stunning, how convenient for moh)He killed his enemies after battle. People that made fun of him where killed. He hated dogs so he killed them. He beheaded nearly 900 jews in a single day. He received 20% of all stolen property. Muslims are only allowed 4 wifes but he is allowed an unlimited amount. He had between 9-13 wifes and upto 50 sex slaves. That is just off the top of my head there is more. Now with all that in mind do you think a true prophet of god would do this? And if it was would that even be a god you would want to worship? Did jesus do any of that?.

Well said.

[Euroholic]

Well said.

Give me a podium and a microphone mate

[Obs]

Give me a podium and a microphone mate

6000 posts damn near... you need an avatar.

[calgarian]

Islam is not a religion. It is a political and social ideology with a religious undertone. Most of the muslims in the world are not true muslims they are either so called "westernised muslims" or they just identify as a muslim but not understand much of the teachings. This is due to upbringing.

Now the word islam means submission. And the ideology of islam is all about submitting yourself to "god" don't question don't have independent thought. Just do as told.

Now muslims believe that moh was the last prophet and revelations where made to him. Now when you study the life of moh you realise that he was just a cvnt he was not a prophet. He was just a horrible person. He could have lived peacefully in medina but he chose to invade mecca etc etc.

Now the Quran is the muslims book that trumps everything to them. But you also have the haddith and the sunna these are the sayings and the doings of moh. Muslims believe in abrogation. So If there are 2 contradictory statements in the quran muslims go for whatever come latter because that verse abrogated the other one.

So all those peaceful things you read in the quran that was all at the start when moh was in mecca and defenceless. But later on when he was in medina and he had more supporters the killing verses came out. Because that is what islam teaches. You can lie, deceive to non believers for the betterment of islam. So when muslims are in the minority you will hear them being all peaceful etc but as they slowly grow in to a major minority they become more harassing and demanding and they launch their defence jihad. And when they are in the majority god help ya. They will launch their offence jihad. Christians/jews(people of the book) will be forced to pay a tax(jizya) anyone deemed a apostate will be killed. Etc etc real muslims do not believe in man made laws they believe in gods law above all else.


So in conclusion islam preaches hate and wants to unify the world under their ideology. Most muslims in the world are not true muslims the ones you see committing attacks they are actually carrying out true islam. So the problem is not muslims it is islam. I personally believe moh was inspired by the devil.

Just food for thought, ask your self this question. In islam they believe that moh was the greatest example of a human. Now the bloke married a 6 year old girl. It was revealed to him that his adopted son must divorce his wife so he could marry her(she was apparently stunning, how convenient for moh)He killed his enemies after battle. People that made fun of him where killed. He hated dogs so he killed them. He beheaded nearly 900 jews in a single day. He received 20% of all stolen property. Muslims are only allowed 4 wifes but he is allowed an unlimited amount. He had between 9-13 wifes and upto 50 sex slaves. That is just off the top of my head there is more. Now with all that in mind do you think a true prophet of god would do this? And if it was would that even be a god you would want to worship? Did jesus do any of that?.

Even though I completely disagree with your opinion I am going to leave it at that. Lets just keep it political not turn into your religion is better then mine.

[Euroholic]

Even though I completely disagree with your opinion I am going to leave it at that. Lets just keep it political not turn into your religion is better then mine.

Nothing about one being better then the other.

Just ask your self if a prophet of god would do those things? Would a so called perfect example of a man marry a 6 year old and consummate when shes 9? by disproving moh the whole islamic institution is exposed for what it is. A cult Created by a madman despot who more then likely was inspired by the devil. People need to learn about the facts.

[Kilgore]

I am not a religious person however I will play the Devil's advocate. Jesus my not have committed the same atrocities as Moh but, his father did kill almost every living thing on the planet with the great flood. The Holy Bible is loaded with atrocities committed by men who are considered the holiest of men. David is a good example of a man that both Jews, and Christians look up to but, was fatally flawed and, extremely cruel. I think you can interpret all religions, political, and social ideologies in a manner that fits your own personal perception of reality. This is why I feel all religions, and ideologies have equal potential for good, and bad.

[cyounger100]

Because trump is not a Democrat plain and simple. Middle class is raped of hard earned money and the money is handed to lazy no good pieces of shit. In the mean time I can't afford health insurance or go to a doctor period because of the AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. Donald will repeal the act and he will cut welfare. These little bastard are running around with everything handed to them while I bust my ass to buy it for them. He will form ********s with Russia rather than Piss them off the way hillary would have and hopefully he will build a big god damn wall between us and mexico. I can't afford to pay for the lazy fucks already here we don't need more. This country was founded on the simple principle that you are on your fucking own here and no one is gonna pay your way. Freedom is and always will be harder than socialism. I just want the non hackers to get the fuck out now so I can return to my beautiful capitalism and not be robbed by the pieces of waste and leeches. You are welcome.

Said it perfectly

[Euroholic]

I am not a religious person however I will play the Devil's advocate. Jesus my not have committed the same atrocities as Moh but, his father did kill almost every living thing on the planet with the great flood. The Holy Bible is loaded with atrocities committed by men who are considered the holiest of men. David is a good example of a man that both Jews, and Christians look up to but, was fatally flawed and, extremely cruel. I think you can interpret all religions, political, and social ideologies in a manner that fits your own personal perception of reality. This is why I feel all religions, and ideologies have equal potential for good, and bad.

The old testament has been abrogated by the new covenant with the last supper and the shedding of jesus's blood. The old masoic laws are put aside by the comming of the messiah. Those old ways can only be understood in the context of the time before christ the messiah.

Where islam states that moh is the final phrophet and is the perfect example of a human being.

[Cuz]

Get rid of Obamacare - check
Keep my guns and ammo - check
Stop supporting illegals here in the country ie welfare checks foodstamps...etc.- check
Not having a president under investigation from the FBI CHECK!!

Whether you agree or disagree Trump was a better choice given the two. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise.

[MuscleScience]

Get rid of Obamacare - check
Keep my guns and ammo - check
Stop supporting illegals here in the country ie welfare checks foodstamps...etc.- check
Not having a president under investigation from the FBI CHECK!!

Whether you agree or disagree Trump was a better choice given the two. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise.

Not even 72 virgins naked in your bed and a bottle of viagra?

[calgarian]

The old testament has been abrogated by the new covenant with the last supper and the shedding of jesus's blood. The old masoic laws are put aside by the comming of the messiah. Those old ways can only be understood in the context of the time before christ the messiah.

Where islam states that moh is the final phrophet and is the perfect example of a human being.

Ok u don't know when to listen to people and realize that it's not the time nor place to discuss it I asked you politely to stop but you like sound of your own voice too much that you choose to ignore . The marriage with 6 years old by prophet Muhammad was discussed in detail in another thread but you weren't a member then so search function is your friend. You are so keen on proving your point that all u write is defensive. Yes I am Muslim I follow Islam but I have never said anything about anyone's religion. I just don't want to get into this debate and I have done so many internet fights since I join in 2006 (I think) that being right doesn't matter to me. So one last time can we stop and stay on course with political discussion?

[Euroholic]

Ok u don't know when to listen to people and realize that it's not the time nor place to discuss it I asked you politely to stop but you like sound of your own voice too much that you choose to ignore . The marriage with 6 years old by prophet Muhammad was discussed in detail in another thread but you weren't a member then so search function is your friend. You are so keen on proving your point that all u write is defensive. Yes I am Muslim I follow Islam but I have never said anything about anyone's religion. I just don't want to get into this debate and I have done so many internet fights since I join in 2006 (I think) that being right doesn't matter to me. So one last time can we stop and stay on course with political discussion?

Understood mate. Ill leave your thread. I will have a look for that thread you type of.

[calgarian]

Get rid of Obamacare - check
Keep my guns and ammo - check
Stop supporting illegals here in the country ie welfare checks foodstamps...etc.- check
Not having a president under investigation from the FBI CHECK!!

Whether you agree or disagree Trump was a better choice given the two. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise.

You know someone else said the same thing Trump was lesser of 2 evils. Other thing I don't understand why would the person under investigation was permitted to be in politics let alone run the country.

[calgarian]

Understood mate. Ill leave your thread. I will have a look for that thread you type of.

Thank you. I didn't write the explanation someone else did he was a marine in US army explosives expert and Muslim forgot his screen name

[Obs]

Ok u don't know when to listen to people and realize that it's not the time nor place to discuss it I asked you politely to stop but you like sound of your own voice too much that you choose to ignore . The marriage with 6 years old by prophet Muhammad was discussed in detail in another thread but you weren't a member then so search function is your friend. You are so keen on proving your point that all u write is defensive. Yes I am Muslim I follow Islam but I have never said anything about anyone's religion. I just don't want to get into this debate and I have done so many internet fights since I join in 2006 (I think) that being right doesn't matter to me. So one last time can we stop and stay on course with political discussion?

I like the sound of his voice too. I give him a Morgan Freeman voice over when I read his posts about muslims. Right now you have a Samuel Jackson voice over when I read your posts Mr calgarian. YOU BOTH ARE WHITE BOYS TOO! YOU REALLY OUGHT KNOCK THAT SHIT OFF!

[calgarian]

I like the sound of his voice too. I give him a Morgan Freeman voice over when I read his posts about muslims. Right now you have a Samuel Jackson voice over when I read your posts Mr calgarian. YOU BOTH ARE WHITE BOYS TOO! YOU REALLY OUGHT KNOCK THAT SHIT OFF!

LOL. I am not. You guys joined when I didnt use to participate as much. otherwise you would know why the old farts on here called me ape

[RaginCajun]

You know someone else said the same thing Trump was lesser of 2 evils. Other thing I don't understand why would the person under investigation was permitted to be in politics let alone run the country.

Follow the money

The Democrats needed Hitlary in there to continue on with their socialist agenda. Bernie is more of a socialist but didn't have all the big money backers (George Soros) and super pacts behind him. Have you read or seen the hacked emails? Nothing but corruption and bad politics. Hillary and the Clinton Foundation have taken money from Saudis who are the main ones backing ISIS and terrorists (even the mutha fuckers who flew the planes into the towers on 9/11). Also, the media wanted Hitlary to win as well, they are all in cahoots. It's one big circle jerk!

[RaginCajun]

Thank you. I didn't write the explanation someone else did he was a marine in US army explosives expert and Muslim forgot his screen name

Wamously I think?

[RaginCajun]

LOL. I am not. You guys joined when I didnt use to participate as much. otherwise you would know why the old farts on here called me ape

A big fattie chasing furry ape!!!

[RaginCajun]

Dreaded double post!

[Marsoc]

See now u hit it. It's not Islam it's the culture that extremists created and its turning ppl against a religion or a in your example color but that's the discussion for another thread. Damn what kind of polish are you? I dated a polish girl and got that and "I love u" in polish and u don't even know that? Shame on u lol

Nope I can say a few words not appropriate for the site though. ..that's funny U say that cuz I just met some 21 year old polish girl. Her parents are from there. So she speaks fluent ..

We have large polish neighborhoods around here. Well there was until it got overran by Africans Americans . No offense. To anyone

[Obs]

LOL. I am not. You guys joined when I didnt use to participate as much. otherwise you would know why the old farts on here called me ape

Well heck! Now your always gonna have a Sam Jackson voice over when I read your posts!

[calgarian]

Well heck! Now your always gonna have a Sam Jackson voice over when I read your posts!

No I am not black either....Think about Russel peters.

[calgarian]

Wamously I think?

Thank you.