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12-21-2016, 04:09 PM #1
Personal trainers?????
The gym that I go to just had two new trainers start working there and I am amazed at the lack of knowledge or experience that they have. I have seen some of the worst form with heavy weights and just bad form in general from these trainers while training clients.
Both trainers are young (early 20's) so I realize that don't have a lot of years of training experience and neither one of them really look like they train themselves.
I have only known two trainers before and they were both national competitors and very knowledgeable about training and diet.
I am just wondering if is this common with personal trainers all over?
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12-21-2016, 04:20 PM #2
It's all over. My gym has 1 trainer that looks like he works out. The rest look like normal everyday ppl. And then 1 fat guy Witch confuses me.
I have talked to some of them in passing. They are told to just make ppl feel like there "working hard" and give them alot of compound movements. So they just make up sh*t.
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12-21-2016, 04:38 PM #3
Lol I had a personal trainer once! I could have rolled his fat ass all over the place. He thought he kew everything and set me up with about 50 sets and pulled a no show the first day so I didnt have a trainer any more. They should fit the job. If they arent extremely athletic or big and lean... they need a different job. Personally I feel like if someone knows the game and how to do it just having a buddy who lifts with you will get you a lot farther. Someone to compete with and isnt trying to tell you how to do things that you know wont work for you. I would take my girlfriend over a personal trainer just because she does what she is told. Unless it was a great faumous trainer.
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12-21-2016, 04:44 PM #4
If your just starting out or competing I understand and think a trainer is a good idea. If you have been doing this for a couple years and your not competing. Probably not worth it.
It might be at the chain gyms xsport, lafitness places like that where it's trainers not fitting the position properly. I have never lifted at any of the backyard heavy gyms or garage gyms.(would love to but can't ever seem to find one in my area)
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12-21-2016, 08:07 PM #5
All over.
Can you count to 12?
You're a "trainer."
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12-21-2016, 08:14 PM #6
My buddy's girlfriend is one of these new on line coaches. She's been 100 lbs overweight for at least 10 years. Started a 6 week program and lost some weight and now she's a coach with her own clients. It's fucking laughable. I have to bite my tongue everyone she speaks. Bla bla bla don't eat carbs bla bla bla. No experience behind it. Just something she heard literally 6wks ago. As long as you can make someone else money they will let you coach.
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12-21-2016, 08:20 PM #7
I was at the gym one morning watching this girl do squats.But she looked like she was doing good mornings.Worried about her hurting herself I said something.HOLY SH!T she lets me know she now runs that gym and that she has a trainer.I really wanted to rip into her but I didn't.I knew her boss so we had a chat about her tude!
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12-21-2016, 10:25 PM #8
I actually talked to the one trainer tonight for awhile when I was leaving the gym.
He basically told me most of his workout plans he gets off the Internet from articles by other trainers and bodybuilders.
The wierd part was half way through the conversation he was more interested in what I did for workout and diet plan than anything.
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12-21-2016, 10:43 PM #9
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12-22-2016, 02:27 AM #11"ARs Pork Eating Crusader"
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Most trainers are shit. But you should not judge them based on their looks.
roelly winklaar Use to get trained by that old lady. And lou ferrigno by his dad. Etc
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12-22-2016, 03:40 AM #12
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12-22-2016, 04:05 AM #13Productive Member
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Guys in my gym are a standing counter and timer. 'Skipping? Yeah sure do that for a bit'
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12-28-2016, 02:55 PM #14Member
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Sadly enough,common from all trades of the game. Anywhere from HVAC techs to cops.
I train myself and fix things myself for this reason,even if I have to learn it from scratch.
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12-28-2016, 05:02 PM #15
I don't think it is possible to learn what works for you through a trainer. A coach can be of use though, though I mean like coaches for olympic weightlifting teams. They set up the seasons program in different cycles and phases et.c. And then they teach you proper technique.
On the technique part I have heard some very horrible stuff when it comes to basic lifts. Felt horrible to see a "PT" show a guy how to bench press but did not even explain how to pull your shoulderblades back or tuck your elbows. Then another PT showing narrow stance squats on someone who can't even squat to parallel with a wider stance without rounding their back and leaning forward. Then the infamous medball squat with weights. Actually I can't even remember seeing them do something good. They are not genuinely interested in lifting weights so that they know which injuries the basic exercises cause, so they can't even know what to learn when explaining the lift.
The worst part with any program is only you know how fast you recover, what kind of workload you can handle and how your joints feel. There is really no point in having someone give you a random guess on what you are able to do.
It would have been cool if you had real coaches teach people proper form. I almost never see people do squats and deadlifts. On a rare occasion when I do, their form is almost always horrible.
I don't think there is a solution to this because in reality these PTs give clients what they want. They don't want to squat heavy and deep and feel like they can't breathe while they have to muster all that effort. They don't want to deadlift and feel that slow grinding pain. Or bench and not know whether they can push it all the way back and rerack it. They don't even want to learn proper technique ffs. So let them enjoy spending their money receiving what they want. Not my problem!
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12-28-2016, 05:28 PM #16
I agree. There are times I go to bench and i feel wierd in my left shoulder so I just set it down and say screw it. Better to miss an excersize than spend a year rehabbing a shoulder. I did things in a bad order before and my delts grew too fast and got too strong for the muscles I had not been training and it nearly cost me a shoulder. Bad advice is plentiful. I like what works for me. My diet and training are of me and for me. I take basic ideas like HIT and move on adjusting to myself. I am too arthritic to have some punk "train me".
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12-28-2016, 05:36 PM #17
I lift at a gym that is primarily comprised of a member base similar to this forum - men and women. There are a number of stout guys there. The trainers I have seen there are either fit or huge and ripped and seem to know what they are doing. Much different from the LifeTime Fitness I used to belong too where they simply wanted to keep your heart rate up and make you use an exercise ball and foam floor mats for most of your workout. But I get enough useful info here to not warrant paying someone to cheer lead for me in the gym.
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^^This....
Also, although I train people for a living... and have over a decade and a half of knowledge and experience, were I ever to step onstage again, I'd definitely hire a trainer.
Anyone who says that you can't learn what's best for you through a trainer, has never had a good trainer.
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12-29-2016, 12:08 PM #19
Huge oversight - I do employ the use of a personal trainer, but not in the gym - have used Nark remotely with huge success and just signed on again for another run with custom nutrition/routine to be implemented once I get injuries under control and some degree of organization in my life as a single father with 2 young children half time, a full time job, a beautiful girlfriend with 3 young daughters and trensomnia.
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12-30-2016, 07:46 AM #21Banned
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They have a reasonable 1/2 hour rate where I'm at, thinking of hiring one to only help me with spots and for some forced reps one a few exercises. I've seen/listened to too many trainers through the years with questionable knowledge bases.
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12-31-2016, 10:54 AM #22
I had what I thought was an awesome personal trainer back in February. Was a reasonable rate and kicked my ass 3 days a week. Then once I got sucked in and paid for three months up front at a reduced rate and the workouts weren't the main focus anymore and it seemed like he wasn't putting his best effort in and just making stuff up as we went along. Guy did his job as a salesman though and I don't think I would ever pay for another one.
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I'm a personal trainer and it's absolutely horrible the shit I see.... trainers not watching nor correcting form(probably b/c they've never lifted right either lol)
There're some great ones but just go to YouTube and watch a trainer NOT watching his client leg press she was locking her knees at the end of every movement... her knees snapped inward while he wasn't watching wtf! First and foremost is form - Always!
Most of these guys are too young and don't even know how the body works - it's a shitty thing to watch - I'll step in to someone I'm not training(nor getting trained) so they don't hurt themselves... usually their quite responsive if they see your trying to help(try saying something positive first tho) haha
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12-31-2016, 12:47 PM #24Banned
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Step into a local planet fitness and watch the "trainers" put out extra cheese, pepperoni and sausage , and meat lovers pizza on mondays, and cinnamon raisin bagels with cream cheese on Tuesdays. While their "clients" sit on an elliptical shoving one after another in their mouths while peddling at a snails pace sweating like the pigs they are.
That's absolutely figgity fucked
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01-01-2017, 12:14 AM #26"ARs Pork Eating Crusader"
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What the fvck? Pizza and doughnuts? Anyplace with the word "fitness" in it is not a gym. And any place with plastic weights is not a gym either. Real gyms have old rusty dumbbells made of iron. Each dumbbell should be 1kg heavier due to the rust
There is no excuse with all this technology today to have bad form, diet, training etc. look at the greats of the 60s-70s just hard work, good eating, seeing what works and what doesn't learning about the muscle and how to connect with it. A no excuse attitude. Most people these days over think training they try to get all scientific and negate the fact that all you need is heavy weight. Good form, good eating,consistency and a death before dishonour attitude.
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01-01-2017, 01:21 AM #28"ARs Pork Eating Crusader"
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Suck me sideways. I love capitalism so serves these cvnts right if they are stupid enough to go to planet fitness.
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01-01-2017, 01:22 AM #29"ARs Pork Eating Crusader"
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To the members who have been incarcerated.
Jail or planet fitness?
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01-01-2017, 01:33 AM #31"ARs Pork Eating Crusader"
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Nice!! You going to get a leg Press?
Have you got a squat rack?Last edited by Euroholic; 01-01-2017 at 01:47 AM.
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01-01-2017, 02:28 AM #32"ARs Pork Eating Crusader"
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01-01-2017, 07:30 PM #33Banned
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No no squats, I have scoliosis, its hard to get my feet under me evenly to support that kind of weight.
No leg press, I can't afford 3000$ pieces of equipment.
I do bike for hours a day though, and do calf raises, and mow the grass with a 65lb weight vest on.
Certain movements like breaking parallel for squats are hard even with own bodyweight.
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01-09-2017, 10:22 AM #34New Member
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Look up Ultimate Performance UK. That's your new example of what personal training should be. Nick Mitchell has his shit together with training and diet. People have full transformations is 12 to 20 weeks on average. And it's not bull shit. I have the nsca cpt and I learned jack shit. I learned more from Charles poliquin. Mind you my test had somewhere on average around a 65% fail rate.
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01-09-2017, 03:41 PM #35
Nach man if I went to your gym youd be the only personal trainer I'd talk too.
In the 10 plus years I have been training I have gotten 0 help from any personal trainer cos they where all shit and useless tbh.
There is an epidemic in ireland with these morons who go are instagram famous and PT's when they do a shit ass course that clearly is a joke.
Maybe I am just a unsociable bastard cos I rarely talk to anyone in the gym ha
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