Plastic surgery okay but juice isnt?

[Octaneforce]

So this girl i know got a TON of plastic surgery. Nose job, fake lips and boobs, the whole 9. She deleted all her pre surgery pictures on all social media and seems to have started over her life. She doesnt even look that good lol. It seems really crazy to me.
But that got me thinking. Someone can pay to have their body botched up and change their appearance overnight by a surgeon, and not only is it legal but its pretty well socially accepted. However, if someone uses anobolics and transforms themselves over many years of hard training and diet, its illegal and has a horrible stigma among society. I just dont understand it. Bodybuilders work so hard to acheive their physique but still get more critisim than if a pornstar gets quadruple d implants for her carreer. (Not that i have a problem with that lol)

Just some thoughts i had to share

[David LoPan]

I know a couple of guys that have had their calfs done l, 1 guy that had spot liposuction done and another had chest implants.

If you have the money then go for it. I'm to cheap to get my nose done that they say is medically justified.

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[< <Samson> >]

I classify all elective surgery damn near the same as juice - you don't need it. But, our vanity does

[deusromanus]

Double standards and hypocrisy are a fact of life.

[guitarzan]

What's even worse is someone can get test if they have a sex change operation, but someone with low test can't get it if it's not low enough

[David LoPan]

What's even worse is someone can get test if they have a sex change operation, but someone with low test can't get it if it's not low enough

That pisses me off. You either have XX or XY, go talk to a mental heath professional not a surgeon.

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[< <Samson> >]

Juice in general gets a bad rep - at least with the ones that don't know

I met a girl a while back, we got to talking - she just knew, it's no prob - duh, every one of u guys r on it. . . . The ones that know, just know.

[kelkel]

I know a couple of guys that have had their calfs done l, 1 guy that had spot liposuction done and another had chest implants.

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How'd that work out for them?

[David LoPan]

How'd that work out for them?

Chest guy moved but he did look better, liposuction guy got fat again, and the guys with leg implant annoyed the fuck out of me always bragging about their legs and show them off all the time. Like a stripper with new boobs. I'm sure you all know that type.

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[kelkel]

Chest guy moved but he did look better, liposuction guy got fat again, and the guys with leg implant annoyed the fuck out of me always bragging about their legs and show them off all the time. Like a stripper with new boobs. I'm sure you all know that type.

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Boobs yes
Calf implants no

[hammerheart]

I'm going to have a nasty looking 1/4'' skin mole from top of cheekbone removed, shit is disgusting, it even got hairs.

Was also thinking chest but ralo is working well with my gyno.

[guitarzan]

That pisses me off. You either have XX or XY, go talk to a mental heath professional not a surgeon.

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I agree. All the liberal tree huggers glorify gays and transgenders, i think they are just fucked up in the head

[hollowedzeus]

I gender identify as an apache helicopter

[Clove1234]

I gender identify as an apache helicopter

I had to reply just to let you know the lol that came out of me when reading that

[kelkel]

I'm going to have a nasty looking 1/4'' skin mole from top of cheekbone removed, shit is disgusting, it even got hairs.

Sorry Bizz but it reminded me of this:

[tarmyg]

I honestly do not care what people chose to do to their bodies. It's their life, and I'll respect whatever choice they make as long as it does not affect my life. At the same token, I find it fascinating that people will agree to alter their bodies completely, that be gender or by other extreme means when there is, so clearly, something else going on that they should deal with. However, since they chose to do that to make themselves feel better, I'll support it.

[RuhlFreak55]

This is why....I make and follow my own rules.

[RuhlFreak55]

society is just a giant piece of shit

[Too-$mall]

This is why....I make and follow my own rules.

society is just a giant piece of shit

word

why so bitter though man? everybody knows about the hypocrisy of it all. not much you can do about it by being pissed. stupid is as stupid does.

its wrong yeah. i get the same way, bro.

[< <Samson> >]

I'm not bitter - but, I feel the same exact way

Fvck society & the nonsense we follow - I have been going against the grain for a solid 6+ years - it's the best I have done yet

[Too-$mall]

i learned that! lol

[< <Samson> >]

Shit, I almost forgot - the wife should be getting her full tuck & trim this year

Sure, y not - if I can get sauced up all year, she can do that - shit, the down time from surgery is still worse than any shit we take - and that's if all goes well

[Mooseman33]

funny someone asked Ruhl why he is bitter.

[Octaneforce]

Shit, I almost forgot - the wife should be getting her full tuck & trim this year

Sure, y not - if I can get sauced up all year, she can do that - shit, the down time from surgery is still worse than any shit we take - and that's if all goes well

Hey i think thats awesome if thats what she wants! Everyone should be allowed to do anything they want without society or the government getting involved. But thats what pisses me off, juice shouldnt be against the law. We all mind our own business and just want to be the best we can be. Alot of great points in this thread. We all seem to be on the same page lol

[diesel101]

Cut,slice,modify,implant do whatever they want as long as it doesn't involve me.

It's amazing how some people are amazed or freaked out just by my tattoo's and I really don't think I have that many.

[Too-$mall]

I just realized that i don't know Ruhlfreak's struggle. sorry bout that, bro.

[hook181]

What's even worse is someone can get test if they have a sex change operation, but someone with low test can't get it if it's not low enough

Your exactly right. My test is low but not low enough for therapy. Really bs to me. But if I can't get it through the Dr., I'll get it somewhere else

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[hook181]

I agree. All the liberal tree huggers glorify gays and transgenders, i think they are just fucked up in the head

Lol I agree with you 100% This whole transgender bullshit these days is for the fucking birds. Who actually gives a fuck anyway if you consider yourself a dude or chick. It's simple, if you had born a dude....your a dude, if your born a chick...your a chick. End of story

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[Too-$mall]

it's the pro feminine / metro male / testosterone poisoning era. masculinity is bad and femininity is good. I hate it.

[RuhlFreak55]

word

why so bitter though man? everybody knows about the hypocrisy of it all. not much you can do about it by being pissed. stupid is as stupid does.

its wrong yeah. i get the same way, bro.

Prolly....bc all the chicks are gay and caught in the societal trap....aka they don't like the ruhlfreak

funny someone asked Ruhl why he is bitter.

troof

I just realized that i don't know Ruhlfreak's struggle. sorry bout that, bro.

Society has marginalized me for many more reasons than simply bodybuilding and being big.

[Too-$mall]

word again. just watched a video on you i think. 2002 night of champs was said to be your best. said that you could have had Mr. Olympia with the physique you brought that night. definition of a mass monster. freaky shredded

[RuhlFreak55]

word again. just watched a video on you i think. 2002 night of champs was said to be your best. said that you could have had Mr. Olympia with the physique you brought that night. definition of a mass monster. freaky shredded

Oh jeez. No lol. I'm not Marcus Ruhl. He's just always been my favorite bber. *sigh* newbs

[Too-$mall]

so what happened to you?

[kelkel]

Ruhl you've been gone for years. Where have you been?

[RuhlFreak55]

Ruhl you've been gone for years. Where have you been?

I dunno, doin stuff. Had a CD that the dumbfucks flubbed bad enough to have nothing happen, never stopped working out but haven't been fuge for awhile :/

[< <Samson> >]

Everyone should be allowed to do anything they want without society or the government getting involved. But thats what pisses me off, juice shouldnt be against the law. We all mind our own business and just want to be the best we can be. Alot of great points in this thread. We all seem to be on the same page lol

We r on the same page, because of what we do & have in common


Some can have serious negative psychological effects - We(the Juicers, in most part), keep ourselves in check quite well.

[MuscleScience]

I wouldn’t mind doing that cryotherapy for fat loss around my midsection.

[tarmyg]

I wouldn’t mind doing that cryotherapy for fat loss around my midsection.

Not same but this showed up in my twitter feed:

"New study shows that cryotherapy impairs recovery from exercise and that heat enhances it. Evidence is mounting against using cold immersion post-training" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28980321

[EDCG19]

The government has a reason "steroids " are stigmatized the way they are, why would you want more men out there. I don't mean its because of aggression, or strength it has to do with men being men. There's a war on men for a long time and the powers that be don't really want old school men running around anymore, They want feminized and sissified men out there

Steroids are illegal for a reason, it can change a mans whole life rather than adding some size or strength
You ever seen a low T man start TRT and change his life? Testosterone is life changing

[MuscleScience]

Not same but this showed up in my twitter feed:

"New study shows that cryotherapy impairs recovery from exercise and that heat enhances it. Evidence is mounting against using cold immersion post-training" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28980321

I’ve never liked cold immersion therapy. You can’t recover properly if you both systemically shock the body and impair blood flow and Normal inflammation to the exercise body part. Plus it schrivals the nuts...