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    Living in a Gun Control Fantasy World

    by TTAG Contributor | Jul 19, 2019

    by Steve Davis

    The people who steadfastly believe in gun control live in a fantasy world. A place no more real than Skittle-crapping unicorns, winged fairies and dope-smoking caterpillars. Pretending Alice in Wonderland is true doesn’t make it reality.

    Let us examine some of the most common gun control fables.

    The world would be a better place without firearms.

    I just read a guest editorial on this theme in my local paper. The writer came from the 1960’s counter-culture. You know, the dope-smoking, peace, love and harmony generation. I could almost hear the Youngbloods singing, “Get Together” in the background as I read his simple-minded missive.



    In fact, there was a time without firearms. We call it the Dark Ages. In those times, strong young men freely ran roughshod over the weak, the young and the elderly. Back then, men took what they wanted from women. And the lone person lived at the mercy of the gang. It was a time of superstitions trumping science; barbarism over civility.

    Few intelligent people today would want to return to the Dark Ages, and for good reason.

    The police will protect you.

    Tell that to the parents of the dead kids at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

    Yes, our law enforcement officers generally try hard to protect and serve. But the simple fact is they can’t be everywhere all the time. While cops are still minutes away, protection can be in the palm of your hand in the form of Sam Colt’s great equalizer.

    Once again, even if the police are present, they may not protect you from evil. Sometimes they might wait outside. Recall the Pulse nightclub fiasco, where police waited outside for hours before storming the club. And Columbine. And now the Parkland school massacre. Each of these dramatically proves my point.

    I am safer in a “gun free” zone.

    Nowhere is the odor of burning marijuana stronger than on those who repeat this fantasy. Never mind that literally 94 percent of massacres have occurred in gun free zones.

    Magic spells and wishful thinking can be hazardous to your health.

    Spree killers who survived have admitted seeking out gun-free zones to avoid armed resistance. These losers want to victimize the helpless.

    If you believe a paper sign will protect you from someone willing to kill, then you might be high as a kite.

    Concealed carry equals blood in the streets.

    Gun-hating leftists love to repeat this hackneyed cliche. Maybe it’s true in a world where leprechauns guard pots of gold at the feet of rainbows. In the real world though, it never comes to pass.

    What’s more, CCW holders represent the most law-abiding in society. In the State of Florida, concealed carry holders are six seven times less likely to be involved in an illegal violent act than police officers.

    Furthermore, in states where teachers and armed staff have been allowed in schools, there have been few injuries and zero deaths from accidents. More importantly, those states have not suffered any school shootings.

    It’s true: everywhere concealed carry is allowed experiences a drop in crime. Whether Alice the Snowflake wants to believe it or not, the facts are the facts.

    Good guys carrying guns does not result in blood in the streets, schools or anywhere else.

    The Second Amendment is outdated.

    The framers of our Constitution were afraid of tyranny and excesses of central government. They recognized that citizens had the right to bear arms to resist tyranny.

    Has mankind and the central governments improved since 1791 such that the Founders fears are unjustified? Well, Stalin, Hitler, Mao ZeDong, and Pol Pot killed approximately 100 million of their own citizens in the last century.

    More recently, the Rwandan government watched as savages butchered a million of its citizens with machetes. As Matt Bracken has succinctly pointed out, it’s a lot easier to load us into boxcars when we’ve been disarmed.

    Conclusion

    Denying reality has no survival value, nor will it make anyone safer. Instead of living in a child’s world of make-believe, prudent and thoughtful people will consider the facts while sober. From there, intelligent people make sensible decisions based on facts, not fiction.

    [There were several links to substantiating facts in the original that I was too lazy to include, so follow the link in the headline if you'd like to see the author's documentation]

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    Well, Come on now.... If they banned conical things of any certain size they would essentially be banning butt plugs and dildos. These are of great need to lgbtqueers.

    Seriously though if you own a 3-D printer and cant make a .284" conical tipped object with a boat tail.... You really need to sell it to me.

    I will send you all sorts of butt plugs.

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    3-D printed AK-47:



    Only it's an 'improved' AK with left-side charging and a human-friendly safety but, apparently, still lacking a bolt hold-open.
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    Sound like an investment in a 3D printer would save me tens of thousands in the long run... probably just on 1911s alone
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    Source: LMAO-dot-com, so take that for what it's worth, but this is every ounce as reality-based as anything else the hoplophobic bobbleheads could concoct.


    Posted by Harvey on 15 August 2019, 1:00 pm

    WASHINGTON DC (AP) – In an effort to “abandon partisanship” and find “a real solution” to the problem of mass shootings, leading Congressional Democrats have dropped their standard rhetoric demanding weapons bans and “red flag laws”. Progressive power-brokers have now adopted a new tactic: insisting that the best solution to protect the innocent is to pass a nationwide “speed limit” that would prevent bullets from traveling in excess of 55 mph.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi insisted that it was an idea “whose time had come”.

    “For decades,” said Pelosi, “the wild-eyed pistol-wavers on the right have insisted that ‘guns don’t kill people’. Well, it’s true. Guns don’t kill people, bullets do. Knowing that, we’ve decided to focus on the real safety issue in this country: excessive bullet speed. In the 1970’s, when cars were the weapon of choice in mass killings across America, President Carter, in a moment of great heroism, declared that no car in America would ever again be allowed to travel faster than 55 mph. This immediately saved millions of lives, as a car traveling that slowly is incapable of killing anyone.”

    “Nearly 50 years have passed since then,” said Pelosi, “and although cars no longer kill people, we are faced with the carnage of hundreds of thousands of Americans being shot with bullets every day. Bullets that are traveling far too fast to be safe. Some even in excess of 100 miles per hour. If it weren’t so tragic, it would almost be silly. Why does anyone need a bullet that goes that fast, anyway? The only sensible way to stop these millions of daily deaths is to slow down bullets to the time-tested safe speed of 55 mph. If it kept our roads safe, it can keep our unexpectedly vulnerable gun-free zones safe, too.”

    Ammunition science expert William Nye supported the move, insisting that a national cap on bullet-speed was “a guaranteed win” for any sensible American seeking a final solution to the gun problem who didn’t mind exchanging “a tiny bit” of liberty for “a whole lot” of safety.

    “Scientific tests have repeatedly shown that a bullet can’t penetrate anything if it’s going less than 60 mph,” said Nye. “so if we take the maximum harmless speed and figure in a small margin for breezy days and such, the 55mph limit will keep everyone safe forever without any chance of error or harm. The science is settled!”

    Democrat Senator and presidential candidate Cory Booker said he’s a “guaranteed yes” on the new legislation.

    “I think it’s great plan,” said Booker. “Messing with their bullets – they’ll never see THAT coming! Of course, we still have to work out a few details, like how to actually make a bullet that only goes 55 mph, but if we pass legislation, they’ll have to come up with something. Sorta like when we criminalized incandescent light bulbs. They had fluorescents that were just as cheap, bright, and reliable on the shelves within days. And nobody complained about the switchover at all. This will be just like that!”

    As of this writing, all ammunition manufacturers agree that the only way to make a bullet go 55 mph is to throw it out of the window of a moving car not driven by Sammy Hagar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    Source: LMAO-dot-com, so take that for what it's worth, but this is every ounce as reality-based as anything else the hoplophobic bobbleheads could concoct.


    Posted by Harvey on 15 August 2019, 1:00 pm

    WASHINGTON DC (AP) – In an effort to “abandon partisanship” and find “a real solution” to the problem of mass shootings, leading Congressional Democrats have dropped their standard rhetoric demanding weapons bans and “red flag laws”. Progressive power-brokers have now adopted a new tactic: insisting that the best solution to protect the innocent is to pass a nationwide “speed limit” that would prevent bullets from traveling in excess of 55 mph.

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi insisted that it was an idea “whose time had come”.

    “For decades,” said Pelosi, “the wild-eyed pistol-wavers on the right have insisted that ‘guns don’t kill people’. Well, it’s true. Guns don’t kill people, bullets do. Knowing that, we’ve decided to focus on the real safety issue in this country: excessive bullet speed. In the 1970’s, when cars were the weapon of choice in mass killings across America, President Carter, in a moment of great heroism, declared that no car in America would ever again be allowed to travel faster than 55 mph. This immediately saved millions of lives, as a car traveling that slowly is incapable of killing anyone.”

    “Nearly 50 years have passed since then,” said Pelosi, “and although cars no longer kill people, we are faced with the carnage of hundreds of thousands of Americans being shot with bullets every day. Bullets that are traveling far too fast to be safe. Some even in excess of 100 miles per hour. If it weren’t so tragic, it would almost be silly. Why does anyone need a bullet that goes that fast, anyway? The only sensible way to stop these millions of daily deaths is to slow down bullets to the time-tested safe speed of 55 mph. If it kept our roads safe, it can keep our unexpectedly vulnerable gun-free zones safe, too.”

    Ammunition science expert William Nye supported the move, insisting that a national cap on bullet-speed was “a guaranteed win” for any sensible American seeking a final solution to the gun problem who didn’t mind exchanging “a tiny bit” of liberty for “a whole lot” of safety.

    “Scientific tests have repeatedly shown that a bullet can’t penetrate anything if it’s going less than 60 mph,” said Nye. “so if we take the maximum harmless speed and figure in a small margin for breezy days and such, the 55mph limit will keep everyone safe forever without any chance of error or harm. The science is settled!”

    Democrat Senator and presidential candidate Cory Booker said he’s a “guaranteed yes” on the new legislation.

    “I think it’s great plan,” said Booker. “Messing with their bullets – they’ll never see THAT coming! Of course, we still have to work out a few details, like how to actually make a bullet that only goes 55 mph, but if we pass legislation, they’ll have to come up with something. Sorta like when we criminalized incandescent light bulbs. They had fluorescents that were just as cheap, bright, and reliable on the shelves within days. And nobody complained about the switchover at all. This will be just like that!”

    As of this writing, all ammunition manufacturers agree that the only way to make a bullet go 55 mph is to throw it out of the window of a moving car not driven by Sammy Hagar.
    Christ...

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    I tee 'em up and they knock 'em long ...

    30% of Confiscated Firearms in California are Homemade

    Ammoland Inc. Posted on August 19, 2019 by Dean Weingarten

    U.S.A. –-(Ammoland.com)- Several media outlets in California have teamed up with the anti-Second Amendment organization, The Trace, to investigate and write about homemade guns in California. They claim that BATFE sources say 30 percent of guns confiscated in California are homemade. Given there are over 400 million guns in private hands in the United States, and the border between California and other states is porous, and only lightly regulated; it seems an extraordinary number. From nbcbayarea.com:

    An Investigation by NBC Bay Area in partnership with NBC San Diego, NBC Los Angeles, and the non-profit journalists at The Trace found that law enforcement agencies across California are recovering record numbers of ghost guns. According to several ATF sources, 30 percent of all guns now recovered by agents in communities throughout California are homemade, un-serialized firearms, known on the street as “ghost guns.”

    Guns have been made at home and in small shops for the entire history of the USA. From criminaldefeselawyer.com:

    The individual manufacture of guns has not been illegal or regulated at all until very recently, and then only ineffectively. California recently required people who wish to make guns at home to apply for a state-supplied serial number before they make the gun. The law has been largely ignored.

    Government regulation of individual making of firearms is probably unconstitutional under the Second Amendment, as applied to the states by the fourteenth amendment. It should be unconstitutional for the federal government because of lack of jurisdiction, but with the promiscuous application of the commerce clause to all activities, that remains to be seen.

    In the world at large, the making of guns at home has been criminalized in nations with fewer Constitutional protections than the United States. That has not stopped homemade and small, clandestine shop manufacture. From Beyond State Control, published by the Small Arms Survey:

    Improvised and craft-produced small arms account for a sizable proportion of weapons seized in domestic law enforcement operations in several countries. In the UK, some 80 per cent of all guns used in crime in 2011 and 2012 were improvised, craft-produced, or converted; in São Paulo, Brazil, 48 per cent of the sub-machine guns recovered during the same period were homemade; and in Indonesia, 98 percent of the guns confiscated from robbery suspects in 2013 were homemade.

    The approach pushed by those who wish for a disarmed population is not reasonable or achievable. The FGC9 shown in the picture does not use any parts considered to be “gun parts” in the European Union, which has far, far stricter restrictions on firearms than any being considered in the United States.

    The magazine is a homemade version of the Glock magazines. The barrel is homemade from a steel tube, with the machining done by a homemade, inexpensive, electrochemical machining apparatus that cost less than $100. The homemade machine created bore, chamber, and rifling that are fully functional. Other parts were printed on inexpensive 3D printers.

    I have my doubts about the 30% figure. It seems quite high. While the article about “Ghost Guns” harps on the lack of any ability to trace homemade firearms, the utility of tracing guns in preventing crime has, at best, been minimal. Tracing guns only allows someone to determine to whom the first retail sale of the gun was made. That results in a few guns being returned to their legitimate owners each year. Otherwise, it has almost no effect.

    Most guns move through many hands before they are used in a crime. Determining the first retail owner results in a dead-end once the gun is stolen. The totalitarian impulse is to restrict the law-abiding access to gun parts; then to information on making guns, then to access to machine tools. It never works to reduce crime.

    As shown in other countries, limiting access to firearms parts or even to machine tools has been spectacularly ineffective. Homemade/small shop guns are being made in Australia, India, Brazil, China, Canada, and now, in spectacular quantities, California.

    The United States is a first-world country with easy access to metals, machine tools, electricity, and computing power. Making guns is 15th-century technology. Making an unregulated gun in the United States is a weekend project any hobbyist is capable of.

    The attempt to reduce the access to legal guns has resulted in a burgeoning culture that creates guns beyond state control. There are physical limits to what California laws can accomplish. It appears they are bumping up against those limits in their zeal to disarm their population.

    At what point do the proponents of disarming the public admit their scheme is counter-productive, ineffective, and does nothing to stop crime?

    Never. It is not criminals they wish to stop from having guns. It is you. Failing that, they wish to make you into a criminal.

    Individuals in this country have been making their own guns for centuries. The practice is deeply rooted in our constitutional history and tradition. Legal scholars have recognized that the Second Amendment’s guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms would be meaningless in practice unless the state afforded individuals the ability to exercise that right—which includes making their own guns.

    For the past almost half-century, however, the sale and subsequent control of firearms have been heavily regulated by federal law. It may come as somewhat of a surprise that even in this era of regulation, it is still completely legal to make and own a homemade gun. Even more surprising is the fact that a gun made wholly or even twenty percent at home need not be registered and its owner is not required to be licensed.



    The hoplophobes would do well to remember the words of the great philosopher and dipsomaniac, W.C. Fields:

    If At First You Don’t Succeed, Try, Try Again. Then Quit. There’s No Use Being a Damn Fool About It.
    Give it up dumbasses, you can't win (we're the one with the all the fucking guns!).

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    Holy sheep shit! You could almost be fooled into believing I know what I'm talking about.

    Halle Germany Shooting With Homemade Firearms.

    Thanks to the unique way social media censors the truth I will put the post that was originally on my page here. As a Journalist I find it extremely disturbing that a platform is censoring news and my views were deemed worthy of deletion.

    Halle Germany.

    A psychopath killed two people outside a synagogue in the eastern German city of Halle on Wednesday, filming his attack on a head-mounted camera and live streaming it in a method that was reminiscent of the attack on two New Zealand mosques earlier this year.

    His firearms were homemade.
    Follow the link in the headline for pictures and more details.

    The sharp-eyed (who also are fans of post-WWII French melodrama) might notice that the homemade 9 millie SMG bears a bit of resemblance to the French Mas-38 ...



    ... which is so ugly you could mistake it for a Glock.

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    Why There Are Still No Real ‘Smart’ Guns Yet

    Apologies in advance for the source. TTAG is the 2nd most worthless gun website in the solar system (next to American Shooting Urinal) but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    The article goes into the problems with expecting the electronic components to endure under conditions a firearm is subjected to, the fact that biometrics are far from perfected, and the matter of just what a "smart" gun can and cannot protect us from. And the upshot is ...

    ...Come the day that someone manages to build a useful, reliable, and affordable “smart” gun, I’ll be interested. But the limits of existing technology presently make “useful” and “affordable” incompatible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    Why There Are Still No Real ‘Smart’ Guns Yet

    Apologies in advance for the source. TTAG is the 2nd most worthless gun website in the solar system (next to American Shooting Urinal) but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    The article goes into the problems with expecting the electronic components to endure under conditions a firearm is subjected to, the fact that biometrics are far from perfected, and the matter of just what a "smart" gun can and cannot protect us from. And the upshot is ...
    Just basic mechanical engineering comin from a redneck...

    If you attach an elecronic device controlling a mechanical device... I can delete it in one day and go back to old schoolfinger on the trigger.

    You cant touch common man ingenuity.

    Once you realize you can open a soda machine with a toilet paper roll the world looks a little different.

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    A homemade cannon, so simple and tiny yet powerful (relatively speaking) you won't believe it here.

    Sorry, I can't link to an Imgur video.


    Cannon were actually created before handheld weapons because in the infancy of firearms it was easier to build on a larger scale. But if you can build a miniature cannon from four tiny pieces of metal, then shoot a paper projectile through a can of soda using nothing but a crushed matchhead for propellant, then there is ABSOLUTELY NO HOPE of trying to prevent Joe Sixpack from fabricating a slightly larger and thoroughly lethal firearm from common household items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    A homemade cannon, so simple and tiny yet powerful (relatively speaking) you won't believe it here.

    Sorry, I can't link to an Imgur video.


    Cannon were actually created before handheld weapons because in the infancy of firearms it was easier to build on a larger scale. But if you can build a miniature cannon from four tiny pieces of metal, then shoot a paper projectile through a can of soda using nothing but a crushed matchhead for propellant, then there is ABSOLUTELY NO HOPE of trying to prevent Joe Sixpack from fabricating a slightly larger and thoroughly lethal firearm from common household items.
    That one is ballistically impossible.
    I have done this same thing with match heads.

    The sulphur alone cannot gather enough explosion to shoot a paper wad through both sides of a can.
    Thats why black powder is a mixture of sulphur saltpeter and charcoal.

    I used to fill empty c02 cartrideges with match heads.
    It was a big firecracker but it had to be prrfect compression or it would just piss 5000 psi gas out the hole.

    Someone shot it.

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    Not saying cannons and guns arent simplistic for anyone to make though.

    That video is bullshit.

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    That one is ballistically impossible....
    You're using the wrong matches. I've made plenty of 'bombs' from CO2 cartridges filled with match heads and I can assure you that they exploded. Strike-anywhere match heads also contain red phosphorus. In safety matches, the phosphorus is in the striker strip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    You're using the wrong matches. I've made plenty of 'bombs' from CO2 cartridges filled with match heads and I can assure you that they exploded. Strike-anywhere match heads also contain red phosphorus. In safety matches, the phosphorus is in the striker strip.
    Yes they did explode when made right but there was a distict reason black powder was made of multiple components.
    Sulphur alone (in that short of a barrel especially) cannot generate enough energy to do what was done in the video. The wick touchhole in proportion to the barrel...

    No way.
    No chance.
    I grew up bliwing enough shit up I know ots impossible.

    The paper might have bonced off of the can but most of the energy would have escaped at the touch hole.

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    And the dude was not using the strike anywhere.
    He was using standard shit that is not capable of anything close.

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    You couldnt do it with black or smokeless powder either.

    Not with those barrel proportions.

    You would be had pressed to get plastic explosive to do that.

    Also if you watch close it gies of and doesnt even expel the paper.
    Then someone shoots it.
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    Okay, Obs. Whatever you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    Okay, Obs. Whatever you say.
    Its ok to argue.
    Dont do it like a lady...
    Hit me dammit

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    Attachment 177388
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    Smoke....

    .5 seconds later the frame ends and a new one starts. Can and cannon are in different positions.

    Then someones shoots it.

    Dead serious not being a dick.
    Its just a fake video.

    I still love you.
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    ‘Ghost guns’ are untraceable, easy to make

    Well no shit, Sherlock.

    For a few hundred dollars, tools and some elbow grease, you can make your own rifle or handgun. It’s all perfectly legal — and it can be done without leaving anything behind for the government to trace.

    These “ghost guns” have long been popular among hobbyists or gun enthusiasts. But gun control advocates say they are increasingly popping up in crimes, used by people who are prohibited from buying a firearm and are trying to circumvent a background check....
    And the rest of the story is behind a good pay wall, but I don't think many people are going to be stupid enough to pay to read it.

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    The little 9th grader by us put one together damn easy, must be simple. Gives me hope as a teacher; kids are creative & great learners, even at that age.

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    Now there's a 3-d printed AK receiver.

    It features a Twitter video which I can't link to.

    The video might auto-play when you open the link.

    I'd be interested to see what they had done in the war of durability testing. There's very little recoil transmitted through an AR lower so there's much less stress on the plastic but the AK is a whole 'nother animal.
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    Keeps getting better. 3d-printed pump-action 6-shot revolver shotgun:





    The Zig-Zag cylinder looks pretty similar to the Webley-Fosbery automatic revolver's:





    Yes, I said an automatic revolver.

    If you've never heard of an "automatic revolver," then you're behind in your Film Noir edumication. Specifically the John Houston classic, The Maltese Falcon, starring Humphrey Bogart as Sam Spade.

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    This just keeps getting better. Eventually all you'll need to go to the gun store for is barrels and reloading supplies.

    A functional 3D Printed Hybrid Pepperbox .22: the PG22 Maverick


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    Well it was never a rational argument anyway, mostly only Appeal to Consequences and Argument from Ignorance (and ignorance is rampant among the hoplophobes).


    Americans Buying Firearms Show That The Gun Control Orgs Have Clearly Lost the Argument

    ...All of you who are buying firearms, particularly you first-timers, have really disappointed our moral and intellectual betters in the anti-gun community.

    Sure, police departments are stretched so thin that they’re letting it be known they’ll only respond to the most serious situations. That’s exactly what millions of people were concerned about when the President declared a national emergency.

    But that’s also what has the Shannon Watts and Peter Amblers of the world so terrified. All of those people lining up at their local gun stores, sometimes for hours, have shown in the clearest possible terms, that Americans want to own the tools to protect themselves and their families if need be.

    The fact that a huge percentage of those gun buyers have never bought a gun before — people who had previously bought into the Civilian Disarmament Industrial Complex’s arguments about why they shouldn’t have a firearm in their homes — absolutely horrifies the Brady Campaign, Giffords, Moms Demand Action and all the rest of them....




    When seconds count, the police are never more than minutes away.

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    And the beat goes on ...


    DIY Guns: An Intro to Modern 3D Printing and Making Your Own Firearms at Home

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    An 80-year old man in Finland created a belt-fed 22 caliber machine gun out of an electric drill. The cam-driven weapon had a firing rate of 420 rpm (for comparison, the US M3 Grease Gun is 450 rpm). The man was not prosecuted, but he had to give up his creation.

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    FGC-9 Fulfills the Promise of 3D Printed Guns


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    ...The FGC-9 enables everyday people all around the world to build a 9mm semi-automatic firearm, from start to finish, using a 3D printer and commonly available, unregulated materials. It’s specifically designed to be accessible to folks with minimal gun building experience, and avoids using parts commonly or easily restricted by law in the US and Europe. Anyone can build it, and no one can stop it....

    ...What Makes the FGC-9 Special?
    Thanks largely in part to the efforts of the Deterrence Dispensed group, 3D printed gun developers in recent years have produced a number of functional, high-quality firearms that many nay-sayers thought to be outside the scope of what 3D printed materials could safely produce. Guns like the Glock 17, Tec-9, AK-47, or even Hi-Point, can be anonymously fabricated at home without government oversight using a cheap 3D printer and factory/OEM parts. And they have a serviceable lifespan of thousands of rounds.

    But here’s the catch: you still need a factory barrel and parts kit for these guns. The Glock 17 print needs a parts kit and a Glock slide. The Tec-9 needs an upper receiver and parts kit. The AK-47 needs an AMD-65 parts kit. The Hi-Point needs a C9 or C380 parts kit. And these parts kits can be scarce or potentially even regulated by the government.

    Currently, most 3D printed guns are really just 3D printed frames, that are later completed using factory parts. Factory parts that can’t practically or easily be made at home….

    …. The FGC-9 is important because it removes this limitation. The FGC-9 is made almost entirely out of home-built or 3D printed parts and unregulated materials. It can’t be regulated away, and it can be built by anyone. Keep in mind that the main designer is in Europe — where practically no firearms are legal, and items like barrels or frames (which are generally unregulated in the United States) are legally restricted and not readily available in the consumer market — and so the limitations to what could be used in the design process were greater than what’s faced by U.S. based makers….

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    DIY Autoloading Sheetmetal Pistol - The Gun Feed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    An 80-year old man in Finland created a belt-fed 22 caliber machine gun out of an electric drill. The cam-driven weapon had a firing rate of 420 rpm (for comparison, the US M3 Grease Gun is 450 rpm). The man was not prosecuted, but he had to give up his creation.

    I want one!!!!

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    You can't make a trigger-fired firearm that's much more low-tech than this.



    The entire frame/receiver is hewn from two blocks of wood. The barrel is a bored-out piece of rebar held onto the wooden receiver with a hose clamp. 11 parts total, including the three common nails used to make brads to hold the frame together.

    And he's also already made the world's most low-tech folding stock ... from fence wire:





    And to think, people call that Einstein fella smart!
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    Get a 3D printer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    An 80-year old man in Finland created a belt-fed 22 caliber machine gun out of an electric drill. The cam-driven weapon had a firing rate of 420 rpm (for comparison, the US M3 Grease Gun is 450 rpm). The man was not prosecuted, but he had to give up his creation.

    The Fins should at least have put this in a museum, or maybe even made some sort of live exhibition.

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    This Redditor built a semi-auto, belt-fed, toggle-action (think: Luger P08) in 7.62x39 purely as a Rube Goldberg device. There's a more comprehensive write-up on it at TFB.





    A couple of weeks ago I stumbled across an article stating that about 50 rapid-fire machine gun-type weapons were patented during the war.








    As in 'the War Between the States.'






    And that was just In the Confederacy.


    It's just that most of them didn't work worth a damn. Like the Winans steam-powered gun.

    Human ingenuity is an amazing thing and, for good or ill, nothing brings that fact to the fore like war.

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