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    Coach for a minor league hockey team unequivocally and unambiguously puts the kibosh on disrespecting the national anthem.

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    ^^^ hell yeah^^^!

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    September 9, 2019
    The Trayvon Hoax That Divided America Is About to Be Exposed
    By Jack Cashill

    On Monday. September 16, Joel Gilbert will preview his new documentary, “The Trayvon Hoax,” in the 500-seat Ballroom of the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. The screening begins at 1 p.m. Admission is free, and Gilbert is encouraging all interested parties to come see for themselves what could be a game-changer in the way the media report racially-charged news. Gilbert’s findings are that significant.

    Having written a book on the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin — If I Had a Son-- I have been following Gilbert’s progress with interest. In fact, I introduced Gilbert to George Zimmerman, the man who shot Martin. Those who have followed the case know that not since the Scottsboro boys has any ordinary citizen endured the kind of malicious and conspicuously false reporting Zimmerman has. My hope was that Gilbert would set the record straight.

    Gilbert has done that and more. In the course of his relentless research into the shooting and subsequent trial, I can say without risk of overstatement that he has unearthed a legal fraud the likes of which I know no parallel. Not only has Gilbert discovered it, but he has also proved it six ways from Sunday, including DNA and handwriting analysis.

    If I were Trayvon Martin’s parents or his family’s attorneys, I would be very nervous right now. If I were Florida state attorneys who prosecuted the case, I would be more nervous still. And if I were the media who covered this case — are you listening Matt Gutman and Lisa Bloom? — I would prepare to be mortified. The coverage of this case was a disgrace from day one.

    To uncover this staggering fraud, Gilbert did what reporters used to do. He immersed himself in the milieu that produced Trayvon Martin. He mastered the patois of urban black Miami. He reviewed the thousands of text messages, tweets, Facebook and Instagram postings sent and received by Martin and his friends. He interviewed George Zimmerman and heard, from the only person who knew, Martin’s final words, words that revealed the cause of Martin’s tragic downward spiral.

    Gilbert did some serious shoe leather reporting as well. He visited all the relevant Miami-area high schools, the neighborhoods where Martin and his friends hung out, the streets of Miami’s Little Haiti, and the town community where Martin died.

    At the end of his research, Gilbert knew Trayvon Martin better than his parents did, literally. As their deposition revealed, they had no idea how Martin’s life had descended into a violent mix of street fighting, guns, drugs, burglary, and sex. Although both parents made good incomes, their separate lives created an abyss where a home should have been, and their once promising son fell straight to the bottom of it.

    Unwilling to accept their own responsibility for his demise, they took the bait promised by the family attorneys and sweetened by the media and projected their guilt on to George Zimmerman. Although an Obama supporter and civil rights activist, the half-Hispanic Zimmerman proved to be just white enough to play the “racist” killer role in the unholy melodrama that followed.

    In the documentary and even more so in the accompanying book of the same name, the Trayvon Hoax, Gilbert shows how politicians — are you listening Andrew Gillum and Barack Obama? -- exploited the ensuing racial divisions to further their political goals. The gratuitous anger the media and political class stoked throughout this case led to the creation of Black Lives Matter, the parallel Ferguson hoax, and a crime wave that that has devastated black America. (emphasis added)

    All of this was based on one spectacular fraud, and Joel Gilbert uncovered it. The film trailer and website will be live on Thursday, Sept 12. “The Trayvon Hoax,” book and documentary, will be released and available on Amazon later this week in DVD, digital, paperback, and ebook formats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Beetle, if the new york times would give a guy like you a column, they would sell about 25% more papers.

    Really think about it.... Giving one intelligent guy a chance to speak the other side creates controversy. Controversy sells. So wtf!!?

    Are they afraid it would make the rest of their paper senseless perhaps?
    I second that one!!! You gotta quit your day job and pick up a pen and start making some money (along with some waves) at a major news outlet...

    Beetle: I was intrigued by your previous comments concerning SERE and waterboarding at SERE. This must be a relatively new practice (post 9/11 when enhanced techniques started to get media attention) only because when I was in Maine, Rangley mountain at SERE, there was no waterboarding when we went through... Of course, this was back in 85. Nothing but stress positions, some slapping around, sleep and food deprivation...

    Great writing on the board; only wish I had more time for it...
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    Rangley was USN. I went to a military SERE school.

    All seriousness aside, each school has different levels of intensity of training, depending on your intended role. They save the nastiest stuff for guys who are tracked as SpecWarriors, Probably hook up the generator from a TA-312 to your nards and "ring you up." When I was a kid my scout master was a Vietnam-era Green Beret and the stuff he went through in SERE was quite a bit nastier than waterboarding.
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    When a person is water boarded by an American, do they think they are going to die?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    When a person is water boarded by an American, do they think they are going to die?
    Yes.

    Its like Ranger "hell week" x10.

    You get starved and kept awake for days until you have no resistance and then you get told that everything you know about the Fed and torture is bullshit for days. They tell you that "no one knows you are here" and "they think you are dead" and "we will kill you if the time window lapses." You wish they would kill you though because it is a life of the worst psychological state you can imagine.

    I actually wonder how many water boardings ended in, "If you tell us we will kill you and you wont have to do this anymore."

    They turn your brain into soup that they pick through.

    Waterboarding is old school though they dont do it anymore.

    Now they just shoot you up with a scopalamine isolate and ask you what they want you to know and you willingly give it right up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    When a person is water boarded by an American, do they think they are going to die?
    *Pro Tip*: It’s not water boarding if you use diesel
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    Sorry for hijacking the thread (XnavyHMCS is cross-pollinating this thread with something I'd said in an unrelated thread). The CIA agent who interrogated Khalid Sheikh Mohammed intimated they could only pour water for 10 seconds at a time. When they began pouring, KSM would visibly count the time on his fingers, probably as a big FUCK YOU! to the spooks who were interrogating him.



    They didn't used to have no 10-second limit. They guys who did me (who probably had been waterboarding for 30 years) could tell from experience who was in distress and who was acting, and they would just keep pouring until they were satisfied you were in (at least a little) genuine distress. I was born with gills and back then I could hold my breath for 3 minutes without straining. Them sonsofbitches made it a long damn 3 minutes. They'd been at it long enough that they tuned their procedure to the strengths/weaknesses they could sense in the subject. In fact I'd say that was a defining characteristic of the best instructors at all such military schools.

    I suspect that a man with the background of José Rodriguez (spook in the video above) was well capable of waterboarding any suspect to the point when he was certain he was about to die without ever doing any permanent damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    I suspect that a man with the background of José Rodriguez (spook in the video above) was well capable of waterboarding any suspect to the point when he was certain he was about to die without ever doing any permanent damage.
    I understand the need for that when you’re building up the mental fortitude of your own soldiers.

    But when you’re interrogating an enemy for information, you’re going to terminate them afterwards nine times out of ten. So doing permanent damage shouldn’t be much of a concern.
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    My point is, if you go in with the mindset you aren’t going to be killed, because us Americans are too proper to do so, it’s a different ballgame.

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    I loved dissecting in PT school. We had a contest who could take the largest portion of skin in one piece.

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    Wow, just hate ending a thread like this.

    Just was saying water boarding sounds like a sport or pretend game.

    Skinning you alive has a bit more straight forwardness to it.

    I mean, this IS torture right? It IS supposed to accomplish a goal right?

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    OK, live in f’n Los Angeles .

    Yeah there are people that do waterboarding for $.

    Found em, going try it for shits & giggles.

    Let’s just see the level of nastiness, cause I ain’t going in expecting to die, nor do terrorists.

    Sorry, different mind set than most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    OK, live in f’n Los Angeles .

    Yeah there are people that do waterboarding for $.

    Found em, going try it for shits & giggles.

    Let’s just see the level of nastiness, cause I ain’t going in expecting to die, nor do terrorists.

    Sorry, different mind set than most.
    Its not the boarding.
    Its the five days without food being locked in a room blasting the same song and told until you are convinced that everyone on the outside thinks you were killed in a missle attack etc...

    Thats why they crack.
    Even granite hard ones.
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    Imagine you are khadaffi and you read a newspaper that says your body has been found and you are officially dead.

    Ni wimagine no food. Nothing for days.
    You dont know what time it is. You dont know how long you have been in this room but cant sleep because of random loud music or being sprayed with water.

    You are so weak you cant stand if you tried 100%.

    Now lets go do some waterboarding.
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    Excellent points Obs.

    Clearly I’m all for torture in the war against terrorism. I was offering up different ideas. For example, the cartels are as inventive as they are extreme.

    I wasn’t aware that we were making so many of them talk and we were receiving tons of valuable knowledge. But if that’s the case I definitely stand corrected.
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    Who was it...
    I think the afghan interrigators at guantamino supposedly let the dogs fuck them to extract info.
    In islam a dog is like a pig.
    Just an unsanitary animal.

    To us it would be like a muslim lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Excellent points Obs.

    Clearly I’m all for torture in the war against terrorism. I was offering up different ideas. For example, the cartels are as inventive as they are extreme.

    I wasn’t aware that we were making so many of them talk and we were receiving tons of valuable knowledge. But if that’s the case I definitely stand corrected.
    I think in most federal instances its more psycho torture than anything but I believe now we just hit them with scopalamine and get whatever info we want
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    But federal gov is great at breaking anyone down.
    Like seals and rangers.
    Left naked at temps just high enough you dont get hypothermia without food or sleep...

    It causes a hopeless feeling that most cant take in and of itself.
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    All great techniques, but for me personally, I think I’d like to see more physical agony as well. Kind of like being burnt alive in the twin towers.

    I’d say soak a towel in gasoline, put in on their chest & light it. Put it out quickly and remove. Repeat. Gradually burn down layer by layer.
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    Head in the vise always works too

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    The NFL are private companies and will do as they see fit, as it should be. If there were a substantial loss to their revenue due to this issue players would be laid off in a heartbeat, but as there is not, meaning, people still go to the games, buy NFL merchandise and so on, it will go on.
    Actually, football is losing momentum. They do not have the money they used to. They are still making money, but not like they used to.


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    Dogs are often used as "stressors." I knew an interrogator back in the early 80s who was a Warrant Officer in the 101st. He also happened to be Egyptian by birth (not that that has anything to do with this story, just added to the "intrigue" that followed after him).

    Anyway, he traveled with a menagerie. Spiders, snakes, cockroaches, frogs, goldfish. The scuttlebutt was that he could talk to you about baseball and in five minutes know what the one thing in the world that terrified you most was. I was privileged to watch him demonstrate his technique at waterboarding. I hope he's still practicing his art.

    Anyway, the snarling dogs lept into the news because of Abu Ghraib, where I once spent two days by accident. I was trying to catch a ride from Baghdad to Fallujah and the copter I was on got redirected to Abu Ghraib, which is on the way. They had "high value" subjects who were being "remanded," which was a fancy way of saying they were being shipped to Jordan to be interrogated outside the limits of the Geneva Accords. Unless we already knew what they wouldn't give up, in which case they were being sent to Syria because the Syrians were much less effective interrogators but much better torturers.

    But there wasn't enough space on the Blackhawk for the two subjects and their handlers so the "low priority" cargo (which included me) got bumped off the flight. I was forbidden to travel by ground "outside the wire" and it was two days before I caught another copter going my way. And me without so much as a toothbrush.

    Anyway, this was before the big kerfuffle in the news about "torture" and the guards weren't in the least bit guarded (pardon the pun) about what they were doing. I had sweet fuck-all else to do so I killed time any way I could. Including watching their shenanigans with the "detainees."

    I've seen worse mistreatment of fraternity pledges than what I saw those prisoners subjected to. As for whether water boarding amounts to torture, I've been waterboarded and I've had a tax audit. If I had to do either over, I'd elect to be waterboarded again. Twice even. Yet the IRS administers tax audits 250 days a year and never once has been reported for violating anti-torture laws. You aren't likely to mistake what happened at Abu Ghraib for torture if you've seen the real thing.

    I spent my last stint in the army working anti-terrorism/anti-insurgency in Central America. It was a particularly nasty time because the Soviet oligarchy was dying and the dying serpent bites deepest. They were desperate to expand their holdings into any available tin-pot dictatorship, and there was plenty of low-hanging fruit in Central America. I wouldn't say torture was common but it was easy enough to find if you knew where to look. The ones I saw didn't appear to be done for the purpose of obtaining information, they just wanted to inflict pain. They called it an interrogation to give it some mantle of law but in truth they were doing it for the publicity. They were sending a message. Whatever you do, don't let these fuckers catch you.

    I saw men -- and boys -- begging to be killed. By that point they usually were so fucked up that killing them would have been a kindness. And a few were, in the end, because the "interrogators" had more zeal than skill and found they couldn't get they subject to wake up.

    What I saw at Abu Ghraib wasn't torture. And even if it was, so what? The Geneva accords aside, we as a nation don't forbid torture because it's immoral. We forbid it as a practical matter. In the hope that our enemies won't torture our citizens who they hold as prisoner if we don't torture theirs. And how did that work out for us in WWII? The Nazis and the Japanese both tortured indiscriminately (but the Japanese did so more extensively). Has anybody checked lately to see if ISIS or Al-Qaida has signed on to the Geneva Accords?

    Pain isn't an interrogation silver bullet but it is another stressor. Just like fire hoses, snarling dogs and the Barney song. If it's a matter of torturing barbarians like the Islamo-Fascists to save Americans from a horrific fate, I don't see the quandary.



    I like how they equivocate playing music with "torture." They would do well to remember Rush Limbaugh's Undeniable Truth of Life #6: Ours is a world governed by the aggressive use of force.

    So put on your big boy pants and grow the fuck up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    Dogs are often used as "stressors." I knew an interrogator back in the early 80s who was a Warrant Officer in the 101st. He also happened to be Egyptian by birth (not that that has anything to do with this story, just added to the "intrigue" that followed after him).

    Anyway, he traveled with a menagerie. Spiders, snakes, cockroaches, frogs, goldfish. The scuttlebutt was that he could talk to you about baseball and in five minutes know what the one thing in the world that terrified you most was. I was privileged to watch him demonstrate his technique at waterboarding. I hope he's still practicing his art.

    Anyway, the snarling dogs lept into the news because of Abu Ghraib, where I once spent two days by accident. I was trying to catch a ride from Baghdad to Fallujah and the copter I was on got redirected to Abu Ghraib, which is on the way. They had "high value" subjects who were being "remanded," which was a fancy way of saying they were being shipped to Jordan to be interrogated outside the limits of the Geneva Accords. Unless we already knew what they wouldn't give up, in which case they were being sent to Syria because the Syrians were much less effective interrogators but much better torturers.

    But there wasn't enough space on the Blackhawk for the two subjects and their handlers so the "low priority" cargo (which included me) got bumped off the flight. I was forbidden to travel by ground "outside the wire" and it was two days before I caught another copter going my way. And me without so much as a toothbrush.

    Anyway, this was before the big kerfuffle in the news about "torture" and the guards weren't in the least bit guarded (pardon the pun) about what they were doing. I had sweet fuck-all else to do so I killed time any way I could. Including watching their shenanigans with the "detainees."

    I've seen worse mistreatment of fraternity pledges than what I saw those prisoners subjected to. As for whether water boarding amounts to torture, I've been waterboarded and I've had a tax audit. If I had to do either over, I'd elect to be waterboarded again. Twice even. Yet the IRS administers tax audits 250 days a year and never once has been reported for violating anti-torture laws. You aren't likely to mistake what happened at Abu Ghraib for torture if you've seen the real thing.

    I spent my last stint in the army working anti-terrorism/anti-insurgency in Central America. It was a particularly nasty time because the Soviet oligarchy was dying and the dying serpent bites deepest. They were desperate to expand their holdings into any available tin-pot dictatorship, and there was plenty of low-hanging fruit in Central America. I wouldn't say torture was common but it was easy enough to find if you knew where to look. The ones I saw didn't appear to be done for the purpose of obtaining information, they just wanted to inflict pain. They called it an interrogation to give it some mantle of law but in truth they were doing it for the publicity. They were sending a message. Whatever you do, don't let these fuckers catch you.

    I saw men -- and boys -- begging to be killed. By that point they usually were so fucked up that killing them would have been a kindness. And a few were, in the end, because the "interrogators" had more zeal than skill and found they couldn't get they subject to wake up.

    What I saw at Abu Ghraib wasn't torture. And even if it was, so what? The Geneva accords aside, we as a nation don't forbid torture because it's immoral. We forbid it as a practical matter. In the hope that our enemies won't torture our citizens who they hold as prisoner if we don't torture theirs. And how did that work out for us in WWII? The Nazis and the Japanese both tortured indiscriminately (but the Japanese did so more extensively). Has anybody checked lately to see if ISIS or Al-Qaida has signed on to the Geneva Accords?

    Pain isn't an interrogation silver bullet but it is another stressor. Just like fire hoses, snarling dogs and the Barney song. If it's a matter of torturing barbarians like the Islamo-Fascists to save Americans from a horrific fate, I don't see the quandary.



    I like how they equivocate playing music with "torture." They would do well to remember Rush Lumbaugh's Undeniable Truth of Life #6: Ours is a world governed by the aggressive use of force.

    So put on your big boy pants and grow the fuck up.
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    they had a documentary on it...
    Cannot remember where or who they had the dogs fucking them to get them to talk.
    Cia specializes in breaking you down mentally to get info.

    Though its not necessary anymore.
    Now we have chemicals to get whatever we want.

    Though I might add...
    As stated before its the breakdown pre boarding.
    They accidentally had one die of hypothermia which is just sloppy work lol.

    All tpugh guys are tough until chained to a wall naked with anal totrture for four days no food or sleep.

    Then you dont have any more resolve or grit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetlegeuse View Post
    Many of the true journalists have been excluded from the main stream because the MSM no longer wants to print the impartial truth, they're too committed to their role as the propaganda wing for the Peoples' Socialist Party (AKA the demoncrats)....
    ^^^^^^ As I was saying ...

    Twitter accelerates BAN of independent journalists as Big Tech’s war on truth goes on steroids

    Suppression of free speech on the internet is rapidly becoming a societal norm, at least across the Big Tech spectrum of social media and search engine platforms. And none other than Twitter is helping to lead the way in outlawing all independent journalism from ever reaching your eyes or ears online.

    Under the guise of combatting “fake news” and “Russian propaganda,” Twitter has taken to scrubbing all posts and deleting all accounts that disseminate information that’s in any way contrary to the government-approved propaganda being pushed by the tech overlords.

    As we recently reported, Twitter’s senior editorial executive for Europe, the Middle East, and Africa is actually an active officer in the British Army’s 77th Brigade, a unit of the British military that’s dedicated to “online warfare and psychological operations.”

    In other words, Twitter has hired on a skilled, deep state propaganda asset to its executive board, and his job is to help ensure that nothing gets posted on Twitter that isn’t officially approved for public consumption by the military-industrial complex.

    It’s important to note that none of the major media outlets, including so-called “conservative” Fox News, have reported on this development over at Twitter. It’s almost as if it never actually happened – or at least this is what Twitter and the rest of the tech cabal wants it to seem like, anyway. But it’s just one piece of truth that you’re not being told by the mainstream media.

    All of the other major tech platforms, including Facebook, Google, YouTube, and Amazon, are doing the same kinds of things without scrutiny, and the implications of this on free speech are nothing short of chilling....

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    ^^^^^^ As I was saying ...

    Twitter accelerates BAN of independent journalists as Big Tech’s war on truth goes on steroids

    Suppression of free speech on the internet is rapidly becoming a societal norm, at least across the Big Tech spectrum of social media and search engine platforms. And none other than Twitter is helping to lead the way in outlawing all independent journalism from ever reaching your eyes or ears online.

    Under the guise of combatting “fake news” and “Russian propaganda,” Twitter has taken to scrubbing all posts and deleting all accounts that disseminate information that’s in any way contrary to the government-approved propaganda being pushed by the tech overlords.

    As we recently reported, Twitter’s senior editorial executive for Europe, the Middle East, and Africa is actually an active officer in the British Army’s 77th Brigade, a unit of the British military that’s dedicated to “online warfare and psychological operations.”

    In other words, Twitter has hired on a skilled, deep state propaganda asset to its executive board, and his job is to help ensure that nothing gets posted on Twitter that isn’t officially approved for public consumption by the military-industrial complex.

    It’s important to note that none of the major media outlets, including so-called “conservative” Fox News, have reported on this development over at Twitter. It’s almost as if it never actually happened – or at least this is what Twitter and the rest of the tech cabal wants it to seem like, anyway. But it’s just one piece of truth that you’re not being told by the mainstream media.

    All of the other major tech platforms, including Facebook, Google, YouTube, and Amazon, are doing the same kinds of things without scrutiny, and the implications of this on free speech are nothing short of chilling....
    I know a guy that tripped facebooks algorithm for banisment via stating "liberalism is a mental disorder."

    They literally said "you tripped the algorithm because you were suspected of possibly interfering with the 2020 presidential election via aiding russian influence."

    I would not believe it but I know the man and he would die before lying.
    He is a navy engineer and takes his flag down every night and puts it up first thing in the morning.

    Wait until the google quantum computer manages to compress the web and infiltrate it.

    You wont even be able to search articles like this on the dark web which will become non existent

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    ESPN is reporting that despite the NFL holding a bake sale specifically for his benefit, Colon Kaepernick hasn't yet got so much as a nibble from any of the teams.


    Meanwhile, Kaepernick's mission in life remains making his adoptive white parents wish they had chosen the Korean orphan instead.

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    Meanwhile, Kaepernick's mission in life remains making his adoptive white parents wish they had chosen the Korean orphan instead.
    Not sure I understand what you are insinuating (if anything) so I'll ask, what does this mean?

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    Zimmerman has filed suit against the family of the verminous trayvon martin for $100 million USD. The suit claims that the fat bitch who couldn't read cursive and pretended she was the vermin's fuck buddy ...



    ... was not who she swore she was. And furthermore, everybody on the prosecution team -- lawyers included -- knew she was a fake.

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    We Are All George Zimmerman Now
    By George Zimmerman

    Most people know my name, George Zimmerman, largely due to negative stereotypes propagated by the media as a result of the 2012 incident in Sanford, Florida, in which Trayvon Martin died.

    Unfortunately, most people don’t recall the fact that I was exonerated of any wrongdoing after a thorough investigation by the Sanford Police Department in March 2012. They had interviewed dozens of witnesses, analyzed 911 calls, and examined the physical evidence of my broken nose, the lacerations on the back of my head, as well as the bruised knuckles of my assailant.


    George Zimmerman in 2012, following the incident

    This was all backed up by eyewitness Johnathan Good who told police that he saw me screaming for help while blows were coming down on me “MMA style.”

    At the conclusion of the police investigation, Sanford Chief of Police Bill Lee announced that my actions were taken in self-defense and there were no grounds for my arrest. It was not even a “stand your ground” case. What followed immediately was a campaign of race-based defamation and incitement against me, led by Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump.

    I am the last person who ever expected to be accused of being a bigot. I am Hispanic. My mother is from Peru. I speak fluent Spanish. I was an Obama supporter and a social activist. Just a year earlier, I had led a community-wide effort to get justice for Sherman Ware, a homeless black man who had been attacked by the son of a white police officer. I was also active in a mentoring program where I spent my spare time (and money) with black teens whose parents were in prison.

    The Martin family attorney, Benjamin Crump, quickly recruited for his incitement efforts Al Sharpton, a man who was infamous for the 1989 Tawana Brawley race hoax and other incidents of mayhem based on racial incitement over the years. Then, Obama’s Department of Justice sent representatives to Sanford to “investigate,” but they instead helped organize protests demanding my arrest. As the protests heated up and Crump’s false narrative was repeated by the media ad nauseam, even fair-minded people began to demand my arrest without cause. Then, out of the blue, Crump produced a recorded interview of a “phone witness,” whom, he said, was Trayvon Martin’s 16-year-old girlfriend, “Diamond Eugene.”

    In the recorded interview with Diamond Eugene, Crump openly led the witness. She mostly just echoed everything Crump said. Two weeks later, prosecutors went to Miami to interview 16-year-old Diamond Eugene under oath. That’s when, as I recently learned, 18-year-old Rachel Jeantel appeared, claiming she was Diamond Eugene. Despite the discrepancy in name and age, prosecutors interviewed Rachel Jeantel anyway and used her obviously false statements to issue an affidavit of probable cause for my arrest. The rest is history.

    Hollywood filmmaker Joel Gilbert just released a film and book of the same name, The Trayvon Hoax: Unmasking the Witness Fraud that Divided America. He investigated the public records and made a discovery – Rachel Jeantel was an imposter. She was not “Diamond Eugene.” She was not Trayvon’s girlfriend. She was not on the phone with him before our altercation. She lied in court about everything she claimed to have heard over the phone in order to send me to prison for life.



    In The Trayvon Hoax, Gilbert not only proves that Rachel was a fraud, he actually finds Trayvon’s real girlfriend, Diamond Eugene, studying Criminal Justice at Florida State University, of all things! Gilbert also identifies those who knew about the witness fraud, such as Trayvon Martin's mother Sybrina Fulton, now a 2020 Miami Dade Commissioner candidate. Gilbert also identifies the attorneys who likely knew and/or should have known about the witness switch.

    The damage the trial did to me and my family has been devastating. I suffered from PTSD and, as a result, acted out for a few years before finally returning to the person I was. I was kicked out of college due to threats against the staff by the New Black Panthers. I lost my career path to become an attorney, and to this day I cannot work or even circulate in public. In 2015, someone tried to kill me. The bullet missed my head by inches, and the shooter got 20 years in prison. Today I remain in hiding, as does my family due to constant threats, which appear almost daily in rap songs and social media rants.

    Ironically, Trayvon Martin and I ended up having much in common. We were both used to divide America for a political agenda. Since the trial, I have watched in horror as those who incited against me have divided America along racial lines. Black Lives Matter started as a result of my acquittal. BLM took its vigilante act to Ferguson, and the resulting "Ferguson Effect" led to a sharp rise in homicides in black neighborhoods. Even today, Benjamin Crump continues his false race narrative (and defames me) in his new book entitled, Open Season: Legalized Genocide of Colored People.

    I have now taken up the cause of bringing America back together again, and I intend to do it by revealing how the country was deceived. I feel that if I can expose and hold accountable those at the origin of this evil witness fraud, the healing can begin.

    I have hired attorney Larry Klayman in his private capacity, founder of Judicial Watch and now Freedom Watch. I am suing Rachel Jeantel, Brittany “Diamond” Eugene, Sybrina Fulton, Tracy Martin, Benjamin Crump, prosecutors Angela Corey, Bernie de la Rionda, John Guy, the state of Florida, the FDLE, and HarperCollins Publishing for in excess $100 million. I don't care about the money as much as I care about the truth coming out in discovery and at trial.

    Racheal Jeantel lied under oath to deprive me of my constitutional rights and send me to prison for life. The others either suborned perjury or lied under oath to hide their knowledge of the switch of the legitimate phone witness, Diamond Eugene, for Rachel Jeantel, whom they knew was an imposter. My lawsuit is online and can be viewed or downloaded here: Zimmerman v Sybrina Fulton, Crump et al.

    I am bringing this action not only to get justice for myself, but for all those Americans who are falsely accused of racial animus as well as those victimized by fake witnesses and unscrupulous prosecutors.

    This lawsuit is also for the Bell family, whose sons were falsely accused of involvement in a tragic gym accident that caused the death of Kendrick Johnson. This lawsuit is for Officer Darren Wilson of Ferguson, whom even Eric Holder had to admit was falsely accused of shooting a man who allegedly put his hands up. This lawsuit is for the police officers in Baltimore, both black and white, who were falsely accused of harming Freddy Gray in order to justify mob violence. This lawsuit is for Brett Kavanaugh and any future Supreme Court nominees falsely accused of crimes they did not commit to prevent their nominations.

    More than anything else, this lawsuit is for the America I grew up in and still believe in, an America of equal justice for all, where race hoaxes and fake witnesses have no place, an America where the content of one's character, not race, is the basis for one's judgement of another.

    With my lawsuit, I hope to make a strong statement that false witnesses will not be tolerated, not in Seminole County Court or any court, and not in the United States Senate chambers. False witnesses must face consequences, or they will continue to ruin lives of innocent people. There is nothing more un-American and irreligious under the Ten Commandments than to bear false witness.

    I look forward to succeeding in my court actions and hope to have enough funds to found a center for falsely accused persons of all races, those railroaded by charlatans, prosecutors, and an all too willing establishment media.
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    "If I had a son.... (Pauses to build suspense/voice catches) he would be a thug like trayvon."

    Race bait.

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    The Author of this op-ed piece, Lloyd Marcus, is an un-hyphenated black American. And this is some powerful shit.

    December 18, 2019
    Operation Mockingbird's Racial Destructive Lies
    By Lloyd Marcus

    In a recent article, I explained that Operation Mockingbird is a program founded by the CIA in the 1950s to use journalists and front groups to spread propaganda.

    Today’s version of Operation Mockingbird uses intelligence agencies, academia, Hollywood, and the Democratic party to spread hatred for Christians, traditional values, law-abiding gun owners, straight white men, pro-lifers, police and the 63 million who voted for Trump.

    I am encouraged that a growing number of young Americans realize they are being propagandized 24/7. Young people are fed up with SJWs (social justice warriors) demonizing whites, anyone who is happy, successful, thin, and enjoying life. Youths are angry for being branded an “ist” or “phobe” for everything they say or do.

    These three Operation Mockingbird lies continue to wreak havoc, igniting racial hatred, division and violence.

    The Tea Party is racist.

    In 2008, I was about to sing my “American Tea Party Anthem” at a rally in Orlando, Florida. The audience of 6000 was 95% white. At center stage, I spontaneously proclaimed, “Hello my fellow patriots. I am NOT an African American. I am Lloyd Marcus, AMERICAN!” Surprisingly, the audience leaped to their feet, erupting in thunderous cheers and applause. After the rally, I was rushed by people, some with tears, thanking me. They believe hyphenating divides us. I love John Wayne's hyphen speech. That day in Orlando, I became “The Unhyphenated American.”

    My unhyphenated American proclamation received the same joyous response at over 500 Tea Party rallies nationwide. A Holocaust survivor gave me a tearful bear hug.

    At a rally in Texas, a white cowboy approached me pushing a stroller with two black babies he and his wife adopted from Africa. He and his wife asked God for babies who needed their love. The proud pop was excited about his kids becoming U.S. citizens.

    At a rally in Traverse City Michigan, a white woman in a wheelchair yelled, “Oh my gosh, there's Lloyd Marcus! Can I get a picture with you?” The woman's adult daughter told a staffer that her mom was dying and meeting me was atop her mom's bucket list. Wow!

    At a rally in Montana, a rancher with working man's hands invited my wife and I to visit his huge ranch. “We can shoot guns, drink whiskey on my porch and watch the beautiful big sky sunset.”

    Do these Tea Party people behave like racist white supremacists? No. As a matter of fact, 40% of the Tea Party voted for Obama,. They simply opposed him driving us down the road to socialism.

    Cops Murder Blacks

    Democratic presidential candidates Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris said Michael Brown was “murdered” by a racist white cop. That irresponsible statement should disqualify these two power-obsessed despicable people from becoming president. Brown was not murdered. Evidence confirmed that Brown was shot while attacking the officer inside his cruiser, trying to take the officer's gun. Operation Mockingbird continues to promote the Brown-was-murdered lie, resulting in cops being assaulted, ambushed, and assassinated.

    Outrageously, Black Lives Matter declared “open season” on killing cops and white people. BLM marched down a New York street chanting, “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!”

    Operation Mockingbird and the deep state are one in the same, gifting propaganda hate groups over $130 million to wreak havoc in our streets. Obama, outrageously honored BLM at the White House.

    The truth is that police are blacks' greatest defenders. [emphasis added]

    Whites Routinely Murder Blacks

    To sell their irresponsible evil lie that whites routinely murder blacks, fake news media reported that Trayvon Martin was gunned down by George Zimmerman, a “white Hispanic.” The truth is, Martin jumped on top of Zimmerman and began beating his head into the ground. Incredibly, NBC news went as far as to edit Zimmerman's 9/11 call to make him sound like a racist.

    Fake news media mislead the public about Martin's age, promoting a photo of him as a cute little boy. Martin was a 17-year-old thug.

    George Zimmerman was acquitted in the 2012 shooting. And yet, the Martin shooting continues to be used to sell the lie that innocent black children live in constant danger of being murdered by racist white men. Zimmerman is fighting back with a $100 million lawsuit against Martin's family and the prosecutors.

    Patriot brother JJ Flash is with the Trump Train and The True Channel. He has done an outstanding job exposing how Operation Mockingbird is behind corruption in our government.

    Americans have about had it with elitists who are behind the scenes propagandizing us while demanding control of our lives and behavior. President Trump is our new sheriff in town in Washington D.C. Thanks to him, We the People are fighting and winning back our culture and freedoms.

    Lloyd Marcus, The Unhyphenated American

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    Did the Media Force a False Narrative on the Trayvon Martin Case?

    Of course they did.

    The linked story lays out the details of how the fake witness at the trial (Miss 'I can't read cursive') was the linchpin in the family's case against George Zimmerman, which in turn is at the center of Zimmerman's $100 million suit against the family.

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    Well Colonic has a new cause now. A white NBA coach just praised his team for no longer playing like thugs and now we have certain players offended & folks wanting him fired for being racist.

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    He realizes that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are both getting pretty long in the tooth and when they die there'll be a job opening for the country's preeminent race-mongering poverty pimp.

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    Did you notice the only people who were captured on camera sitting through the National Anthem before this past Sunday's Superbowl were Shawn Carter and his bitch?

    The power of today's demoncrat party is entirely hinged on identity politics and victimology, a coalition of several disgruntled minorities. Black America is their largest block vote and without racial strife they'd be out of power so they have a vested interest in thwarting the cause of racial tranquility.

    On the other hand ...

    Race Relations Have Improved Dramatically Since Trump Took Office

    The election of Barack Obama was seen as a watershed moment in America's history. The question of whether could elect a black man president had been answered, and some saw this as proof that America had moved beyond its past stains of slavery, segregation, and other racial injustices. While many debated the meaning of his election, an overwhelming majority of Americans (70 percent) predicted that Obama's presidency would result in significant improvements in race relations.

    But that's not what happened at all. Polls that showed a majority of Americans believed race relations got worse under Obama. Because of Obama's divisive presidency, race relations actually reached an all-time low on his watch.

    Obama's record on race relations was so horrible that it seems many have actually tried to blame his failure on Trump. Back in December, a USA Today columnist falsely implied that race relations improved under Obama and have been declining under Trump.

    We now have new evidence that shows that Trump's record on race relations is far superior to Obama's as a new Gallup survey shows that satisfaction with race relations has increased 14 percent since Trump's inauguration. America's satisfaction with race relations went from 22 percent in January 2017 to 36 percent in January 2020, a remarkable jump considering the desperate efforts of Democrats and media to paint President Trump as a racist white nationalist.

    There's still room for improvement, however. National Review notes that satisfaction with race relations "still remains 8 points lower than it was in 2001" and that a majority of Americans are still dissatisfied with race relations, but it's clear that Trump has been repairing the damage done by Barack Obama....

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    ^^^^^^ As I was saying ...

    Twitter accelerates BAN of independent journalists as Big Tech’s war on truth goes on steroids

    Suppression of free speech on the internet is rapidly becoming a societal norm, at least across the Big Tech spectrum of social media and search engine platforms. And none other than Twitter is helping to lead the way in outlawing all independent journalism from ever reaching your eyes or ears online.

    Under the guise of combatting “fake news” and “Russian propaganda,” Twitter has taken to scrubbing all posts and deleting all accounts that disseminate information that’s in any way contrary to the government-approved propaganda being pushed by the tech overlords.

    As we recently reported, Twitter’s senior editorial executive for Europe, the Middle East, and Africa is actually an active officer in the British Army’s 77th Brigade, a unit of the British military that’s dedicated to “online warfare and psychological operations.”

    In other words, Twitter has hired on a skilled, deep state propaganda asset to its executive board, and his job is to help ensure that nothing gets posted on Twitter that isn’t officially approved for public consumption by the military-industrial complex.

    It’s important to note that none of the major media outlets, including so-called “conservative” Fox News, have reported on this development over at Twitter. It’s almost as if it never actually happened – or at least this is what Twitter and the rest of the tech cabal wants it to seem like, anyway. But it’s just one piece of truth that you’re not being told by the mainstream media.

    All of the other major tech platforms, including Facebook, Google, YouTube, and Amazon, are doing the same kinds of things without scrutiny, and the implications of this on free speech are nothing short of chilling....
    Russia doesn’t like our free speech and unlimited use of the internet for speech.

    They pushed outlandish divisive propaganda, knowing full well that this president’s minions and moronic cult followers would blindly regurgitate it, since they utterly lack any critical thinking skills. “If fox says it, I believe it”.

    They knew there would be a backlash when the part of the population that actually reads, realizes what insidious dangerous propaganda is spewing on fox and related websites 24x7. Russia knew that our society would be pushed in the direction of a filtered internet, like they have.

    We really do have a stooge living at 1600 Penn. Ave.


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