Guns and Ammo Thread

[almostgone]

Ha!! A Friday and I'm the only one here! A car pulled up to the keypad at the gate but then left.
Love it.

[guitarzan]

High of 68 here in south Ga, might have to ride out to the range!

[Capebuffalo]

Shot skeet today. Beretta .20 ga over/under silver pigeon. Broke them nicely. Doubles too.

[Obs]

Shot skeet today. Beretta .20 ga over/under silver pigeon. Broke them nicely. Doubles too.

Love skeet hate trap

[guitarzan]

I ended up working on the carport all day, no shooting range...

[Charlie67]

My wife has a glock 43 9mm in the door of her tahoe, a s&w hammerless .38 in her pocketbook, and a Springfield .45 in the console....

Damn, she really wants you to stay away from her!

Love skeet hate trap

I hate them both.. mostly because I can hear their laughter as the drift off out of sight completely in tact.

I ended up working on the carport all day, no shooting range...

I took my 12 yr old daughter to the range yesterday for her birthday, she's like a junkie now. She burned through about 300 rounds of .22 through two different pistols. She tried a 9mm, but it spooked her a bit. I spent time with my shotgun, the ducks fly Saturday.

[Couchlockd]

Damn, she really wants you to stay away from her!



I hate them both.. mostly because I can hear their laughter as the drift off out of sight completely in tact.



I took my 12 yr old daughter to the range yesterday for her birthday, she's like a junkie now. She burned through about 300 rounds of .22 through two different pistols. She tried a 9mm, but it spooked her a bit. I spent time with my shotgun, the ducks fly Saturday.

I'm working on my daughter, she's just getting ok to pull trigger on a daisy power line 1200. (One crack 1k fps, of course I charge it for her.)

She was fine till it dry fired once, it's loud with no pellet, like a 22lr. Took lots to get her back behind trigger.

[Couchlockd]

Hey you guys remember the guy who gave his daughter a full auto Uzi or some smg at range and can't remember if it killed her, him, or both when it got away from her

That's fucked I was just remembering a group of range boo boo videos.

Like the one we're last and son went to range, she rented a pistol, shot her son in head then herself

This is why I preffer woods instead of public ranges.

[Couchlockd]

[Obs]

Fucking idiots.
This shit right here is why my kids didn't get firearm priviledges like I did. People today are spacey and self absorbed. They cant understand the concept of life or death on a level to be cautious.

[Obs]

Hats off to the range owners for acting quickly and giving no second chance

[guitarzan]

Luckily, me and my brother have our own range. Got targets out to 300 yards, plan to add a 400

[guitarzan]

Check this out, 602 gr 12 ga hollow point! This looks like a bad bitch

12gauge TSR (Tango Shotgun Round) Aluminum - 5 Rounds/Package | OATH Ammo

[Couchlockd]

Check this out, 602 gr 12 ga hollow point! This looks like a bad bitch

12gauge TSR (Tango Shotgun Round) Aluminum - 5 Rounds/Package | OATH Ammo

Dayum!

[Charlie67]

Luckily, me and my brother have our own range. Got targets out to 300 yards, plan to add a 400

As if i weren't already jealous....

[Obs]

As if i weren't already jealous....

He has it all man...

[Capebuffalo]

Luckily, me and my brother have our own range. Got targets out to 300 yards, plan to add a 400

I’ve got a 2000 yard range. I just have to wait for them to stop traffic on I-75

[guitarzan]

I’ve got a 2000 yard range. I just have to wait for them to stop traffic on I-75

Got a friend that occasionally bring a m2 .50 cal machine gun. I'll let you know next time, would be worth the 3 hr drive down!

[Capebuffalo]

Got a friend that occasionally bring a m2 .50 cal machine gun. I'll let you know next time, would be worth the 3 hr drive down!

Hell yeah.

[guitarzan]

Hell yeah.

He'll let you shoot it too, he usually shoots 500-1,000 rounds!

[RaginCajun]

He'll let you shoot it too, he usually shoots 500-1,000 rounds!

Damn!

I want to come!

Have a new .270 I built that needs firing. Also need to sight it in with a suppressor, along with my 6.8.

[RaginCajun]

Any good places for sub sonic ammo?

[guitarzan]

Damn!

I want to come!

Have a new .270 I built that needs firing. Also need to sight it in with a suppressor, along with my 6.8.

Hell no, Bulldogs only! Nay, you can come, cant hate a lsu fan, yall fun to party with!

[guitarzan]

Any good places for sub sonic ammo?

Never bout any sub sonic ammo from them, but I've had good luck buying other ammo
https://palmettostatearmory.com/cata...lt/?q=subsonic

[Capebuffalo]

Any good places for sub sonic ammo?

Ammoseek.com

[Couchlockd]

Question

What is everyone's favorite ammo like bullet design for carrying a pistol an automatic specifically

I love the Winchester Ranger Black Talon PDX1 bullet design I keep all the bullets of that design in every single gun I own my second-favorite is Hornady FTX

No I'm not talkin loadings I'm talking actual projectiles

Let's hear it..

[Old Duffer]

Any good places for sub sonic ammo?

Detroitammo

That's where I bought my subs for my 300blkout

[Beetlegeuse]

Any good places for sub sonic ammo?

Engel Ballistic Research

Question

What is everyone's favorite ammo like bullet design for carrying a pistol an automatic specifically

I love the Winchester Ranger Black Talon PDX1 bullet design I keep all the bullets of that design in every single gun I own my second-favorite is Hornady FTX

No I'm not talkin loadings I'm talking actual projectiles

Let's hear it..

That's one subject I gladly give the nod to Dr Gary K Roberts on. Doc Roberts is an assistant professor at Stanford University, an oral surgeon, a certified armorer and a retired a Lieutenant Commander in the Naval Reserves (same as a Major in the Army) who specializes in analysis of real-world terminal ballistics. He also has done terminal ballistic and cartridge effectiveness studies for both civilian LEAs amd the military. He has a list of recommended duty loads that he maintains on several firearm, law enforcement and tactical websites under the screen name of DocGKR. And he uses his combination of military and medical credentials to get access to autopsy and emergency room reports from both the civilian and military communities and uses that information to determine a particular bullet's suitability to the list.

He breaks down the list by factory loads but it's not the load so much that counts as the bullet itself, so he also includes the specific bullet used by each load. I think now he automatically adds any bullet that passes the FBI's new 6-protocol approval test but they're still subject to removal if they don't prove effective in the field. I hand load most of my stuff, so that's how I use his information, a guidance in bullets to use for HD/SD loads.

I don't know of anyone else who comes anywhere close to having that breadth of access to information plus the experience and education to know what to do with it as Doc Roberts, and on top of that he shares it freely on the Interwebs.

Here's his list at AR15.com. It hasn't been updated in a couple of years now, which I take to mean there hasn't been any significant new information since then.

Winchester Ranger and Speer Gold Dots show up repeatedly in all the calibers he considers so they both look like safe bets. That's why I load more Gold Dots than anything else (but I've got several 10mm magazines laying around that are stuffed with Black Talons).

[Couchlockd]

Engel Ballistic Research


That's one subject I gladly give the nod to Dr Gary K Roberts on. Doc Roberts is an assistant professor at Stanford University, an oral surgeon, a certified armorer and a retired a Lieutenant Commander in the Naval Reserves (same as a Major in the Army) who specializes in analysis of real-world terminal ballistics. He also has done terminal ballistic and cartridge effectiveness studies for both civilian LEAs amd the military. He has a list of recommended duty loads that he maintains on several firearm, law enforcement and tactical websites under the screen name of DocGKR. And he uses his combination of military and medical credentials to get access to autopsy and emergency room reports from both the civilian and military communities and uses that information to determine a particular bullet's suitability to the list.

He breaks down the list by factory loads but it's not the load so much that counts as the bullet itself, so he also includes the specific bullet used by each load. I think now he automatically adds any bullet that passes the FBI's new 6-protocol approval test but they're still subject to removal if they don't prove effective in the field. I hand load most of my stuff, so that's how I use his information, a guidance in bullets to use for HD/SD loads.

I don't know of anyone else who comes anywhere close to having that breadth of access to information plus the experience and education to know what to do with it as Doc Roberts, and on top of that he shares it freely on the Interwebs.

Here's his list at AR15.com. It hasn't been updated in a couple of years now, which I take to mean there hasn't been any significant new information since then.

Winchester Ranger and Speer Gold Dots show up repeatedly in all the calibers he considers so they both look like safe bets. That's why I load more Gold Dots than anything else (but I've got several 10mm magazines laying around that are stuffed with Black Talons).

That's why I like the new talon the "PDX 1"

Black talon is unbonded
Ranger t is unbonded talon sans lubalox coating.
Pdx1 is bonded ranger.

I've played with jugs and plywood. The pdx1 8 out of 10 times expands , few times it plugged up.

The Hydra shok (not HST) IMHO, sucks.

The ftx, well never seen it not expand.

This was all done with a 3.5" 45 acp millennium pro. So everything was subsonic leaving that tube..

Pdx won in my crude fun tests.

[almostgone]

Question

What is everyone's favorite ammo like bullet design for carrying a pistol an automatic specifically

I love the Winchester Ranger Black Talon PDX1 bullet design I keep all the bullets of that design in every single gun I own my second-favorite is Hornady FTX

No I'm not talkin loadings I'm talking actual projectiles

Let's hear it..

For rolling my own, Speer Gold Dots and Hornady XTPs work well for me.

If for some reason I purchase off the shelf (rarely), Magtech First Defense CDHP and surprisingly, the PMC Starfires perform decently.

Edit: I was given a box of Hornady Personal Defense... horrible performance, IMHO.

[-Ender-]

I don't buy anything fancy for my primary carry. Only use 180gr fmj for practice. Some of those rounds are neat looking, but proper shot placement is paramount regardless.

Long gun and hunting are a different story. Have to take into account distance, body comp, and desired wound channel.
I wear a Hornaday ball cap. Their sst is a well engineered projectile.

[Capebuffalo]

I don't buy anything fancy for my primary carry. Only use 180gr fmj for practice. Some of those rounds are neat looking, but proper shot placement is paramount regardless.

Long gun and hunting are a different story. Have to take into account distance, body comp, and desired wound channel.
I wear a Hornaday ball cap. Their sst is a well engineered projectile.

What are you using to shoot all your deer with

[-Ender-]

What are you using to shoot all your deer with

Rage hypodermic 100gr.
or
.460 S&W Hornady 200 gr FTX

[Capebuffalo]

Rage hypodermic 100gr.
or
.460 S&W Hornady 200 gr FTX

Nice

[Obs]

You can't trust people anymore. Never know when you will come across a crazy. I was working way out in the slums today and this motherfucker comes running over at me with a pair of scissors!

Luckily I had a rock in my pocket. If I had reached for paper I woulda been fucked.

[guitarzan]

You can't trust people anymore. Never know when you will come across a crazy. I was working way out in the slums today and this motherfucker comes running over at me with a pair of scissors!

Luckily I had a rock in my pocket. If I had reached for paper I woulda been fucked.

Now that's funny

[Capebuffalo]

You can't trust people anymore. Never know when you will come across a crazy. I was working way out in the slums today and this motherfucker comes running over at me with a pair of scissors!

Luckily I had a rock in my pocket. If I had reached for paper I woulda been fucked.

You’re crazy.

[Ernst]

Question

What is everyone's favorite ammo like bullet design for carrying a pistol an automatic specifically

I love the Winchester Ranger Black Talon PDX1 bullet design I keep all the bullets of that design in every single gun I own my second-favorite is Hornady FTX

No I'm not talkin loadings I'm talking actual projectiles

Let's hear it..

Our his and hers Glock 19s are loaded with Federal HST 147gr. Speer Gold Dots are also excellent. I'm still fond of Hornady XTP bullets, though I think they are generally outclassed by more modern bullet designs.

[BG]

Just got my new Alien holster and double spare mag holder. Stuff is well built and thought out. Many adjustments, very cool. Does anyone else have a hard holster? Every time I draw and put it back in it sounds rough, almost like its going to wear my gun out.

[BG]

A few better ones of the mag holders......