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    Not like the other animals...

    Something I have been noticing a lot lately, but always have taken note of, are animals that seem to have a deeper... something... in their emotions and intelligence. I have seen it in most mammal species.

    Tiny example:

    Everyone has run over an animal such as a squirrel or a raccoon if they have driven much.
    Usually if they are in a pair or a group, the others don't bat an eye and just scurry off.

    The other day I came around a curve and a squirrel was sitting by its dead buddy in the road. I slowed down and he didnt move but a few steps out of the way. I passed and watched in my mirror and it went back to its companion and sat as if grieving.

    There are multiple possibilties but bear in mind these were 10 miles out a backroad. Squirrels and other animals not familiar with human traffic, do not behave like those in more urban areas. They are much more leery of unnatural things to their habitat. They damn sure don't stick around when a truck goes by. In fact their fear is often their undoing.

    So what posessed this particular animal to stay with his companion?
    Either this squirrel was experiencing sadness and grieving or it was trying to help its buddy even risking great danger to do so.

    Dogs tend to have this, "extra something" trait more often than many species. Their intelligence can be very superior to other animals.

    Still all of them do not really act at all alike emtionally. Some dogs have their owner die and tear apart the house looking for food or possibly even make a meal of the owners corpse if left long enough.

    My grandfather witnessed a seven or eight year old dog literally starve itself to death after the passing of it's owner. It simply wished to die and did. Some may find that hard to believe. It was an extreme cause of a common thing though. Many dogs wont eat for many days after the passing of its owner or a companion.

    I once was a herd manager a a 2,000 head dairy farm. These cattle were treated like equipment.
    They all had basically no personality. Eat, shit, and travel back and forth from milking parlor to pasture.
    One little jersey cow absolutely would not let me herd her with the others. When you are driving 300-500 head down an alley the cows in rear usually push the ones in front and just try to stay the hell away from the herdsman.

    This jersey cow would either follow or walk beside me. If I got behind her she would stop like a rock in the road and you could not push her.
    She would lick me and actually helped drive the others.

    The strangest thing about her was she would look at me like she was studying me. 2k other cattle would give blank stares and move away but not this one. She would rub up against me with her head and simply did not act like a cow.
    She was full of personality though she had grown up with and lived under the same circumstances as the others.

    Literally the only way to depart from this cow and get her in the holding lot was to walk in and get her to follow, pet her for a bit and walk out. She was part of the team.

    I have seen a couple of horses not like the others as well. I could go on forever about one horse that was simply much more emotionally involved than any other I have seen.

    I have seen a pitbull sequestered from people for a few days literally cry, basically hugging me, laying in my lap moaning for nearly an hour when I got back from a hospital stay. It was scary absurd behavior. It was a deeper sense of happiness/sadness and empathy than I have ever seen another animal display.

    The thing that astonishes me is how rare it is and why only a fraction of a fraction of a percent, posess this special trait.

    People may see it as just a random anomaly, instinct, or just a human projecting their own empathy onto an animal, creating something in their mind that really isn't.

    I am not that emotionally attached to animals. The dog that bawled in my lap, jersey cow, horse... They really didn't mean that much to me until they displayed that exceptional trait. After that they were unforgettable.

    What in the hell is it that they have the others don't? A soul? Actual human-like empathy? More intelligence? A combination?

    Many people have seen or had a dog that simply was nothing like others. It was emotionally exceptional. I have never had a dog like that, the pitbull was my brothers, but it knew me well. I have had several dogs and they were all pretty much average.... Dogs. I am not speaking about an animal that does tricks for treats or pets. Every dog does that and thats not the type of capacity for love I am inquiring about.

    I want people to share their story of experiences like this.

    What is your story?
    What do you think it is?
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    Btw Charger...

    If I was out with tren the squirrel and I got ran over. That asshole would not sit in the road with me. His ass would be up a tree two miles away baging some hot gray headed chick. He would probably bite me before I died.

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    Animals have a very keen sense of their "pack". When we had our female mastiff cremated a while back, our boy walked over to where my wife keeps the ones we had cremated, laid his muzzle on top of the exact box the female was in and then slowly started howling.
    They know things, have a much deeper conscience than we have or can access. I know some people think it is crazy, but I've always believed that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Animals have a very keen sense of their "pack". When we had our female mastiff cremated a while back, our boy walked over to where my wife keeps the ones we had cremated, laid his muzzle on top of the exact box the female was in and then slowly started howling.
    They know things, have a much deeper conscience than we have or can access. I know some people think it is crazy, but I've always believed that.
    Thats a great story. Exactly what I was talking about.
    I believe some are exceptional. Maybe one in 5 thousand idk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Btw Charger...

    If I was out with tren the squirrel and I got ran over. That asshole would not sit in the road with me. His ass would be up a tree two miles away baging some hot gray headed chick. He would probably bite me before I died.
    Lmao- you could tell that when I read this, I would be thinking of you and tren !!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Animals have a very keen sense of their "pack". When we had our female mastiff cremated a while back, our boy walked over to where my wife keeps the ones we had cremated, laid his muzzle on top of the exact box the female was in and then slowly started howling.
    They know things, have a much deeper conscience than we have or can access. I know some people think it is crazy, but I've always believed that.
    That breaks my heart. I’ve had dogs all my life. Some have been working dogs. Some have been pets. I’ve sat with everyone thats had to be put down so they knew they weren’t alone. The guy I have now is special. I’ve never felt this deeply for a dog. Sir Beauregard Blue Train. It’s going to be a tough one for me when that day comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Lmao- you could tell that when I read this, I would be thinking of you and tren !!!


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    The squirrel scenario was just the most recent example.

    I will say maybe one in 5,000 animals carry the trait.
    Its weird to me how that many of a single species can be exactly the same, but one has 100x more personality and care.

    I think my gf I one of the one in 5000 on a human level lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    That breaks my heart. I’ve had dogs all my life. Some have been working dogs. Some have been pets. I’ve sat with everyone thats had to be put down so they knew they weren’t alone. The guy I have now is special. I’ve never felt this deeply for a dog. Sir Beauregard Blue Train. It’s going to be a tough one for me when that day comes.

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    Thats really awesome. I dont have the patience but wish I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Something I have been noticing a lot lately, but always have taken note of, are animals that seem to have a deeper... something... in their emotions and intelligence. I have seen it in most mammal species.

    Tiny example:

    Everyone has run over an animal such as a squirrel or a raccoon if they have driven much.
    Usually if they are in a pair or a group, the others don't bat an eye and just scurry off.

    The other day I came around a curve and a squirrel was sitting by its dead buddy in the road. I slowed down and he didnt move but a few steps out of the way. I passed and watched in my mirror and it went back to its companion and sat as if grieving.

    There are multiple possibilties but bear in mind these were 10 miles out a backroad. Squirrels and other animals not familiar with human traffic, do not behave like those in more urban areas. They are much more leery of unnatural things to their habitat. They damn sure don't stick around when a truck goes by. In fact their fear is often their undoing.

    So what posessed this particular animal to stay with his companion?
    Either this squirrel was experiencing sadness and grieving or it was trying to help its buddy even risking great danger to do so.

    Dogs tend to have this, "extra something" trait more often than many species. Their intelligence can be very superior to other animals.

    Still all of them do not really act at all alike emtionally. Some dogs have their owner die and tear apart the house looking for food or possibly even make a meal of the owners corpse if left long enough.

    My grandfather witnessed a seven or eight year old dog literally starve itself to death after the passing of it's owner. It simply wished to die and did. Some may find that hard to believe. It was an extreme cause of a common thing though. Many dogs wont eat for many days after the passing of its owner or a companion.

    I once was a herd manager a a 2,000 head dairy farm. These cattle were treated like equipment.
    They all had basically no personality. Eat, shit, and travel back and forth from milking parlor to pasture.
    One little jersey cow absolutely would not let me herd her with the others. When you are driving 300-500 head down an alley the cows in rear usually push the ones in front and just try to stay the hell away from the herdsman.

    This jersey cow would either follow or walk beside me. If I got behind her she would stop like a rock in the road and you could not push her.
    She would lick me and actually helped drive the others.

    The strangest thing about her was she would look at me like she was studying me. 2k other cattle would give blank stares and move away but not this one. She would rub up against me with her head and simply did not act like a cow.
    She was full of personality though she had grown up with and lived under the same circumstances as the others.

    Literally the only way to depart from this cow and get her in the holding lot was to walk in and get her to follow, pet her for a bit and walk out. She was part of the team.

    I have seen a couple of horses not like the others as well. I could go on forever about one horse that was simply much more emotionally involved than any other I have seen.

    I have seen a pitbull sequestered from people for a few days literally cry, basically hugging me, laying in my lap moaning for nearly an hour when I got back from a hospital stay. It was scary absurd behavior. It was a deeper sense of happiness/sadness and empathy than I have ever seen another animal display.

    The thing that astonishes me is how rare it is and why only a fraction of a fraction of a percent, posess this special trait.

    People may see it as just a random anomaly, instinct, or just a human projecting their own empathy onto an animal, creating something in their mind that really isn't.

    I am not that emotionally attached to animals. The dog that bawled in my lap, jersey cow, horse... They really didn't mean that much to me until they displayed that exceptional trait. After that they were unforgettable.

    What in the hell is it that they have the others don't? A soul? Actual human-like empathy? More intelligence? A combination?

    Many people have seen or had a dog that simply was nothing like others. It was emotionally exceptional. I have never had a dog like that, the pitbull was my brothers, but it knew me well. I have had several dogs and they were all pretty much average.... Dogs. I am not speaking about an animal that does tricks for treats or pets. Every dog does that and thats not the type of capacity for love I am inquiring about.

    I want people to share their story of experiences like this.

    What is your story?
    What do you think it is?
    Jersey's are an exception. Most cattle just mindlessly lick everything they come in contact with and care little about surroundings. A jersey will look you over and make decisions.


    And Dogs....dogs will bond hard and fast. In turn, a human can do the same with a dog. It's beautiful and fucking terrible at the end. Actually, terrible is a massive understatement...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ender- View Post
    Jersey's are an exception. Most cattle just mindlessly lick everything they come in contact with and care little about surroundings. A jersey will look you over and make decisions.


    And Dogs....dogs will bond hard and fast. In turn, a human can do the same with a dog. It's beautiful and fucking terrible at the end. Actually, terrible is a massive understatement...
    Yes I agree jerseys are smarter and more decisive but I am talking about something rare and exceptional. For instance there were 1000 other jerseys in that herd that all grew up together and in the same conditions. We have two dogs and a squirrel. They are average. They act on things like the rest of their species. There is rare emotionally deep animals. I dont know what to call it.

    If a dogs owner was to pass away, 4999 would not miss a meal over grief. One would starve itself for days. I believe these exceptional animals show it in little ways if you know what to look for. The trait is rare though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Yes I agree jerseys are smarter and more decisive but I am talking about something rare and exceptional. For instance there were 1000 other jerseys in that herd that all grew up together and in the same conditions. We have two dogs and a squirrel. They are average. They act on things like the rest of their species. There is rare emotionally deep animals. I dont know what to call it.

    If a dogs owner was to pass away, 4999 would not miss a meal over grief. One would starve itself for days. I believe these exceptional animals show it in little ways if you know what to look for. The trait is rare though.
    If we go out of town for more than 3 days and my mom watches the dogs Beau will stop eating. He misses me. Lol
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    Example video:

    Most animals are not this emotionally connected to anything, nor are they capable imo. Yes chimps are smart and emotional. Not on this level.



    Someone had posted this video before btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    That breaks my heart. I’ve had dogs all my life. Some have been working dogs. Some have been pets. I’ve sat with everyone thats had to be put down so they knew they weren’t alone. The guy I have now is special. I’ve never felt this deeply for a dog. Sir Beauregard Blue Train. It’s going to be a tough one for me when that day comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Thats a great story. Exactly what I was talking about.
    I believe some are exceptional. Maybe one in 5 thousand idk
    They are both side by side in their cremation containers now. The wife has a "shrine" setup on top of a cedar chest of the ones we have had cremated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ender- View Post
    Jersey's are an exception. Most cattle just mindlessly lick everything they come in contact with and care little about surroundings. A jersey will look you over and make decisions.


    And Dogs....dogs will bond hard and fast. In turn, a human can do the same with a dog. It's beautiful and fucking terrible at the end. Actually, terrible is a massive understatement...
    What is it about Jerseys? Neighbor has several and one heifer will follow me around the whole time I am there if I am watching his livestock when he is on vacation, etc.
    It started when it was a calf. The thing would run, dodge, and psuedo play with me. Now it walks up and stands beside me and waits for me to scratch its neck. Never has stepped on me, bumped into me or anything.
    He has a few Limousin that are very standoffish. Bulky fvckers too.
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    Sounds like jerseys make cool outdoor pets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Sounds like jerseys make cool outdoor pets
    Some are evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ender- View Post
    Jersey's are an exception.

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    Yes I agree jerseys are smarter and more decisive

    Just pointing out that I'm from Jersey.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Just pointing out that I'm from Jersey.....
    The irish counteracts all british genetics.

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    Did you ever see the movie Hachi about an Akita?
    The dog would go daily to wait for its owner at the train station. After the owner died he would still go there.
    I have an Akita that would go to the front of the house at the same time every day and wait for me to come home.
    I also had an Akita that would start barking about 3-5 minutes before an Earthquake hit.
    I just had to put my girl away. She was 18 years old. This is uncommon for the large breed. I just couldn’t stand to see her suffer anymore.
    I love dogs and especially Akita’s. They are the most loyal dog that I have ever owned.



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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Did you ever see the movie Hachi about an Akita?
    The dog would go daily to wait for its owner at the train station. After the owner died he would still go there.
    I have an Akita that would go to the front of the house at the same time every day and wait for me to come home.
    I also had an Akita that would start barking about 3-5 minutes before an Earthquake hit.
    I just had to put my girl away. She was 18 years old. This is uncommon for the large breed. I just couldn’t stand to see her suffer anymore.
    I love dogs and especially Akita’s. They are the most loyal dog that I have ever owned.



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    Extremely fortunate to have a large breed that long. The longest time we have had a mastiff last was 14 years and it was a blessing the whole way.
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    another cool story brother...I don't have anything to share like that but I do have a cat that I rescued at the local shelter that literally thinks it a dog...its kind of weird but its fun at the same time...it licks me to show affection...as soon as I drive down my road he will start running home and greet me at the door of my truck...he will escort me down the walkway up to the door but dosent come in, he will stand guard on the porch...he doesn't meow like a cat but has a strange sound that comes out instead that I cant describe...he chases cats and is not afraid of any dog that has come at him barking...im starting to believe in reincarnation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    another cool story brother...I don't have anything to share like that but I do have a cat that I rescued at the local shelter that literally thinks it a dog...its kind of weird but its fun at the same time...it licks me to show affection...as soon as I drive down my road he will start running home and greet me at the door of my truck...he will escort me down the walkway up to the door but dosent come in, he will stand guard on the porch...he doesn't meow like a cat but has a strange sound that comes out instead that I cant describe...he chases cats and is not afraid of any dog that has come at him barking...im starting to believe in reincarnation...
    That is kinda something I have wondered about.
    I have just wondered about reincarnation in a few instances. As if an animal was trying to tell me something it couldn't express through words.
    They are everywhere but so rare.

    Some must have a capacity for complicated thought process, but most don't. It's not just in domesticated animals, I think it's in every species, a handful of exceptional human like animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Just pointing out that I'm from Jersey.....
    Jersey? No wonder.....

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    Jersey? No wonder.....
    I told you some were evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Yes I agree jerseys are smarter and more decisive but I am talking about something rare and exceptional. For instance there were 1000 other jerseys in that herd that all grew up together and in the same conditions. We have two dogs and a squirrel. They are average. They act on things like the rest of their species. There is rare emotionally deep animals. I dont know what to call it.

    If a dogs owner was to pass away, 4999 would not miss a meal over grief. One would starve itself for days. I believe these exceptional animals show it in little ways if you know what to look for. The trait is rare though.
    My dog auggie.

    He's a special one. All ya git to do is just watch him daily. I have so much to say story wise, but I'm drawing a blank cuzz I'm overwhelmed

    He's caught squirrels and baby birds, never hurt them just trapped with his paws, and set free unharmed.

    He hangs out with the ferel cat families we have in the neighborhood.

    One time I was over my dad's with him

    I left to go get groceries fir him.

    He pulled his back out and Auggie ran to him and let my dad use him as a cane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    My dog auggie.

    He's a special one. All ya git to do is just watch him daily. I have so much to say story wise, but I'm drawing a blank cuzz I'm overwhelmed

    He's caught squirrels and baby birds, never hurt them just trapped with his paws, and set free unharmed.

    He hangs out with the ferel cat families we have in the neighborhood.

    One time I was over my dad's with him

    I left to go get groceries fir him.

    He pulled his back out and Auggie ran to him and let my dad use him as a cane.
    Thats funny.
    If I get hurt or yell the dogs run downstairs to the kennel. These two definitely lack the special trait. They know pet, kibble, nap, and poop. They are generic dogs. Spoiled too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Did you ever see the movie Hachi about an Akita?
    The dog would go daily to wait for its owner at the train station. After the owner died he would still go there.
    I have an Akita that would go to the front of the house at the same time every day and wait for me to come home.
    I also had an Akita that would start barking about 3-5 minutes before an Earthquake hit.
    I just had to put my girl away. She was 18 years old. This is uncommon for the large breed. I just couldn’t stand to see her suffer anymore.
    I love dogs and especially Akita’s. They are the most loyal dog that I have ever owned.



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    Myers Briggs 16 personality types. Feeling is one of eight dimensions.

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    I don't see my personality type? I see an "I", but no "D", "C", or "K".

    Maybe I'm in a subclass or something?
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    I have always been a dog person and have had a few through my life but the one I have now is total different animal than I have ever had before.

    I did my research and decided to go with an English mastiff.
    He is only 9 months old but I have never had such a loyal,well behaved, intelligent dog in my life.
    He comes to work with me and most places everyday but If I leave him at home he will sit by the back door and watch for hours until I get home.
    The weird part of this dog is that he can tell what kind of mood I am in most of the time. If I am tired and pissed he will just sit and lean on me but if I am in a normal half fired up mood he will get the rope and want to play without me saying anything.

    I have never had an animal that I have bonded with like this one especially in this short of a time.
    It is weird like mentioned that some animals have more of a that "special" trait than others.

    The strange thing or just coincidence was when I went to pick out the pup. They came from a private couple that had a litter of 9 pups, I walked in talked to the owners for a few minutes and then they took me into the kitchen were the mother and these pups were at. I walked into the kitchen and within 5 seconds this brindle pup walked 10 feet over to me and sat down between my feet and looked up at me. I looked over at the owner and no words needed to be said I,the owner and pup knew that he was the one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel101 View Post
    I have always been a dog person and have had a few through my life but the one I have now is total different animal than I have ever had before.

    I did my research and decided to go with an English mastiff.
    He is only 9 months old but I have never had such a loyal,well behaved, intelligent dog in my life.
    He comes to work with me and most places everyday but If I leave him at home he will sit by the back door and watch for hours until I get home.
    The weird part of this dog is that he can tell what kind of mood I am in most of the time. If I am tired and pissed he will just sit and lean on me but if I am in a normal half fired up mood he will get the rope and want to play without me saying anything.

    I have never had an animal that I have bonded with like this one especially in this short of a time.
    It is weird like mentioned that some animals have more of a that "special" trait than others.

    The strange thing or just coincidence was when I went to pick out the pup. They came from a private couple that had a litter of 9 pups, I walked in talked to the owners for a few minutes and then they took me into the kitchen were the mother and these pups were at. I walked into the kitchen and within 5 seconds this brindle pup walked 10 feet over to me and sat down between my feet and looked up at me. I looked over at the owner and no words needed to be said I,the owner and pup knew that he was the one.
    They say a dog will pick his owner. It’s true. It happened to me and my wife. Beau picked her immediately. His brothers and sisters could care less. But he came to her every time we were there until we said ok little guy you’re with us now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    I don't see my personality type? I see an "I", but no "D", "C", or "K".

    Maybe I'm in a subclass or something?
    Ha! My point is not everyone has preference of acknowledging feelings.

    I think all animals have feelings except some cats. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    They say a dog will pick his owner. It’s true. It happened to me and my wife. Beau picked her immediately. His brothers and sisters could care less. But he came to her every time we were there until we said ok little guy you’re with us now.
    Neat story. I’m a dog not home enough to keep penned up inside all day. I would need to buy 2 so they have company.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Neat story. I’m a dog not home enough to keep penned up inside all day. I would need to buy 2 so they have company.



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    At about 4k each.
    Worth it!

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    My gf wants a kinkajou....
    Also about 4k and I say no.
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    My wife & I were going to hold off till retirement in a couple of years to find that perfect addition to our family, she really loves them. But early in 2017 a friend of ours committed suicide. And even though my wife is allergic to cats, she sensed something about our friends cat. I’m very OCD about the house and definitely didn’t want him, but knew the wife was certain.

    The cat (Caleb, aka: monster man or the beast) rarely leaves my side & when I am home & is my shadow. When I sit or sleep, he is on me. When I leave, he’s waiting at the front window when I return. Much to my wife’s displeasure, I now refuse to travel. His personality stole my heart in less than a day. What will happen when that day comes frightens me.
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    I have been thinking about a getting a dog but trying to see if I have enough time for one. I want a breed that doesn’t shed, not too big, and that I can train to bird hunt and blood track. Been looking a lot but dang dogs are expensive. Also looked at some rescues which is a route I wouldn’t mind going but it would have to be the right situation. I want a puppy and they are hard to find puppy rescues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginCajun View Post
    I have been thinking about a getting a dog but trying to see if I have enough time for one. I want a breed that doesn’t shed, not too big, and that I can train to bird hunt and blood track. Been looking a lot but dang dogs are expensive. Also looked at some rescues which is a route I wouldn’t mind going but it would have to be the right situation. I want a puppy and they are hard to find puppy rescues.
    Labs are great but they take so much time and patience to train

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