Doing well, now lets keep going

**HoldMyBeer** · 11-12-2018, 06:13 AM

I believe we have been doing a good job changing the atmosphere around here. There has been something that really has been bugging me ever since I joined that I would like to bring up.
People need to stop being so condescending and realize this board is for educational purposes. Get off that metaphorical "high horse."
I've been taking DNP , yes I read the article here on the dangers, yes I did research, and I still had question. I've been having to go to OTHER, less knowledgeable boards, to educate myself in order to do so, because I knew those people (here) would just be dicks about me taking DNP, and not answer any questions. I've been PMing members, bothering them, just because I didn't want X replies of people giving me shit for every Y legit response? That's not right. I can take a joke. I can take people giving me shit. But sometimes, I just want an answer to a question that is not convoluted by that stuff.
When a new member posts a questions, they just get a response, "thats foolish, dont do that." Fine, be blunt and call their actions foolish, people need to have thick skin, but at least say WHY it is foolish. Otherwise, why even posting a question?
"Hey guys, second cycle, I would like to do 2 grams tren hex!" Saying thats ridiculous is fine, but at least explain about the sides of tren, with that little experience you will spend most of the cycle trying to figure out how to deal with them, 2 grams is too much, how the long ester you cant bail out, etc. But dont just leave it at just "no, dont do it." If youre not going to add value to the conversation, why even post a response (Unless you are confirming an already explained response)?

**Capebuffalo** · 11-12-2018, 06:36 AM

Is this pointed to staff, members or both? I feel staff does a good job answering questions. Other members are going to respond how they want. So many different personalities. Some just want to stir things up. Some don’t have knowledge but want to speak.

**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 08:02 AM

It is much less condescending in mannerism.
I have told a couple of people that were new to basically piss off because of posts that were a little past stupid though.

The whole approach has changed as far as openmindedness goes. I see a lot less of the one size fits all approach that simply never fit me in the least. Advocating safe practices to a newbie is one thing but I do agree that if the opinion isn't productive and is condescending it should be left unspoken in most cases.

**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Is this pointed to staff, members or both? I feel staff does a good job answering questions. Other members are going to respond how they want. So many different personalities. Some just want to stir things up. Some don’t have knowledge but want to speak.

I blame cape!

**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 08:15 AM

Gh has helped with this a lot too.
For instance many vets are trying insulin now that would have never consdered it before.

Most guys saying it is too dangerous only say so because thats what someone told them. Not long ago it was barely spoke of. I would say DNP falls into the same category, deadly, so we don't speak of it much.

In all seriousness the lack of subject matter on it is more dangerous than teaching responsible use.

It is always shot down with, "its all ugl so no one knows how its dosed and shouldn't be taken because it is poison".

Thats cute.
But people take it every day and dont kill themselves, ugl and all. People are going to take it regardless of how dangerous it is but rather than establish the safest protocols it just gets shot down and shit on.

GH can explain the synergistic effects of SLIN AND DNP .... Dear God! A guy takes that and he might as well go into a coma inside a microwave right!?

**HoldMyBeer** · 11-12-2018, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Is this pointed to staff, members or both? I feel staff does a good job answering questions. Other members are going to respond how they want. So many different personalities. Some just want to stir things up. Some don’t have knowledge but want to speak.

it's really only one or two people. But it's an HR thing where it's not appropriate to point them out directly, so you have to get everyone involved.
And no, it's not couch or obs. Couch is funny af and Obs is just the man, so he can do what he wants.

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**Couchlockd** · 11-12-2018, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

it's really only one or two people. But it's an HR thing where it's not appropriate to point them out directly, so you have to get everyone involved.
And no, it's not couch or obs. Couch is funny af and Obs is just the man, so he can do what he wants.

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Clean bananas.

That's an amalgamation of both names

**charger69** · 11-12-2018, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

Gh has helped with this a lot too.
For instance many vets are trying insulin now that would have never consdered it before.

Most guys saying it is too dangerous only say so because thats what someone told them. Not long ago it was barely spoke of. I would say DNP falls into the same category, deadly, so we don't speak of it much.

In all seriousness the lack of subject matter on it is more dangerous than teaching responsible use.

It is always shot down with, "its all ugl so no one knows how its dosed and shouldn't be taken because it is poison".

Thats cute.
But people take it every day and dont kill themselves, ugl and all. People are going to take it regardless of how dangerous it is but rather than establish the safest protocols it just gets shot down and shit on.

GH can explain the synergistic effects of SLIN AND DNP .... Dear God! A guy takes that and he might as well go into a coma inside a microwave right!?

Actually, GH did do write up on this before he disappeared. Yes, there was a lot of negativity toward it, but he defended his position. Not that he was advocating its use, just providing education on the synergy.

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**HoldMyBeer** · 11-12-2018, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

Actually, GH did do write up on this before he disappeared. Yes, there was a lot of negativity toward it, but he defended his position. Not that he was advocating its use, just providing education on the synergy.

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GH did a write up in this? I searched the crap out of this forum (for a good 7 minutes) to find reliable info. Every thing I saw was over a decade old and just speculation. If you come across it, please point me in the right direction.
I'm going to make a thread soon on DNP , hopefully we can get a consolidated, current, thread of good info. I don't want to keep bugging people through PMs.

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**charger69** · 11-12-2018, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

GH did a write up in this? I searched the crap out of this forum (for a good 7 minutes) to find reliable info. Every thing I saw was over a decade old and just speculation. If you come across it, please point me in the right direction.
I'm going to make a thread soon on DNP , hopefully we can get a consolidated, current, thread of good info. I don't want to keep bugging people through PMs.

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Yes he did. I distinctly remember because he took some shit over it. I will see if I can find it.

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**charger69** · 11-12-2018, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

Yes he did. I distinctly remember because he took some shit over it. I will see if I can find it.

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I search DNP and nothing comes up. Must be a bad word. LOL
I also looked and have up under insulin .

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**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Couchlockd

Clean bananas.

That's an amalgamation of both names

Awwww damn... I dont wanna google that word...

**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

I search DNP and nothing comes up. Must be a bad word. LOL
I also looked and have up under insulin .

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The search function is all but broke. Lotsa shit that used to work as search keywords dont work.

**charger69** · 11-12-2018, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

The search function is all but broke. Lotsa shit that used to work as search keywords dont work.

Well what is Cape waiting for to get it fixed?? LOL

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**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

it's really only one or two people. But it's an HR thing where it's not appropriate to point them out directly, so you have to get everyone involved.
And no, it's not couch or obs. Couch is funny af and Obs is just the man, so he can do what he wants.

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I would kiss you but I dont think I could stop there.
I am not gay but I got a lotta shit in me that makes me lose control of my weiner.

**charger69** · 11-12-2018, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

it's really only one or two people. But it's an HR thing where it's not appropriate to point them out directly, so you have to get everyone involved.
And no, it's not couch or obs. Couch is funny af and Obs is just the man, so he can do what he wants.

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I hope it wasn’t my comment on Wickr of where you could find it. LOL

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**Capebuffalo** · 11-12-2018, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

Well what is Cape waiting for to get it fixed?? LOL

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Please send cc# to me and I’ll reinstate you.

**HoldMyBeer** · 11-12-2018, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

I hope it wasn’t my comment on Wickr of where you could find it. LOL

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No way jose. You know you can do no wrong charger

**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

No way jose. You know you can do no wrong charger

He does cardio!

**Couchlockd** · 11-12-2018, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

Awwww damn... I dont wanna google that word...

Union.

Cleaning products.

Banana

**guitarzan** · 11-12-2018, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

He does cardio!

That's terrible. Why would anyone work so hard to get their heart rate up, when they can just take something to do it!

**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

That's terrible. Why would anyone work so hard to get their heart rate up, when they can just take something to do it!

I know!
People are nuts. I bet he makes car noises with his mouth while he runs.

**charger69** · 11-12-2018, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

I know!
People are nuts. I bet he makes car noises with his mouth while he runs.

Who told you??

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**HoldMyBeer** · 11-12-2018, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

He does cardio!

I stand corrected

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**charger69** · 11-12-2018, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

That's terrible. Why would anyone work so hard to get their heart rate up, when they can just take something to do it!

LMAO- any T3 available. LOL

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**guitarzan** · 11-12-2018, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

LMAO- any T3 available. LOL

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Haha, I knew I'd get some feedback from you on that one!

**SocioMachiavelli** · 11-12-2018, 12:46 PM

for those that didn't know, Condescending of course means to talk down to people....

**Capebuffalo** · 11-12-2018, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by SocioMachiavelli

for those that didn't know, Condescending of course means to talk down to people....

I see what you did there.

**Capebuffalo** · 11-12-2018, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

it's really only one or two people. But it's an HR thing where it's not appropriate to point them out directly, so you have to get everyone involved.
And no, it's not couch or obs. Couch is funny af and Obs is just the man, so he can do what he wants.

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Sil isn’t posting as much so it should get better.

**SocioMachiavelli** · 11-12-2018, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

I see what you did there.

couldn't help myself

**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by SocioMachiavelli

for those that didn't know, Condescending of course means to talk down to people....

?
I thoight it was a muscle in the upper back???

**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 01:37 PM

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I am starting to get nice lines in my traps at the lower condescendings.

If only I knew how to pose worth a shit...

**GearHeaded** · 11-12-2018, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

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I am starting to get nice lines in my traps at the lower condescendings.

If only I knew how to pose worth a shit...

looking thick . . do you do any exercises specifically for your lower traps ? I been trying to get my lower traps to pop and hit them from various angles. but not having the best of luck. upper traps are ok, but I want them lower traps to come in.

my front traps look ok

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**Capebuffalo** · 11-12-2018, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

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I am starting to get nice lines in my traps at the lower condescendings.

If only I knew how to pose worth a shit...

Pull your shoulders and elbows back

**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

looking thick . . do you do any exercises specifically for your lower traps ? I been trying to get my lower traps to pop and hit them from various angles. but not having the best of luck. upper traps are ok, but I want them lower traps to come in.

my front traps look ok

back side my traps disappear though

I have all but ignored them though iso lateral hammer strength row machine sets mine off if I keep my ebows out.

Damn you re thick gh!
How did you get height in them like that?

My neck steals away from mine

**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Pull your shoulders and elbows back

I need a full posing course. I cant dance either

**Capebuffalo** · 11-12-2018, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

I need a full posing course. I cant dance either

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**Obs** · 11-12-2018, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

I dont know how you gus get height and slope like that.

**Capebuffalo** · 11-12-2018, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

I dont know how you gus get height and slope like that.

You’ve got it. You just aren’t hitting the pose right. You can’t activate lats at the same time. This is a contraction not a spread.

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**GearHeaded** · 11-12-2018, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

I have all but ignored them though iso lateral hammer strength row machine sets mine off if I keep my ebows out.

Damn you re thick gh!
How did you get height in them like that?

My neck steals away from mine

if I purposely flex my traps, they seem to really rise up my neck with a lot of height (I attribute that to years of doing Haney Shrugs). but now I'm in a position where I'm trying to get them to grow down my back rather then 'up' my neck.

think I need to get a hammer strength high to low row in my gym. I'm stuck just doing it with cables and can't really go all that heavy .