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    You guys still bulking?Attachment 175538Attachment 175539 I am
    Doing a badass job cape
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    OHP 5x80~3x95~2x110~1x120~1x130
    Amrap@135x10
    Klokov 45x10~90x12/11/10
    Pull-Ups~10/9/8/7/6
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    Ez bar curl 70x17/14/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Doing a badass job cape
    Wait until I can run more than 300 mg of cyp. Lol. NPP and dbol I need you now. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    8s Realization Bench Day

    Bench Press: 1x45/95/5x125/3x150/2x175/1x190/8+x200-10 completed (+5 TM)
    Seated Cable Row: 4x190-14/13/12/12
    Unilateral Pulldowns: 15x85/3x115-15/13/11
    French Press: 3x55-16/15/13
    Side Laterals: 3x20s-20/17/16
    HLR: 3x-8/10/12

    First progress on bench in a long time.

    Someone please tell me this pump nonsense stops at some point.
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    I’m definitely going to be looking into something other than test for future cycles. I hate this swollen tick bullshit enough that I’m genuinely considering cutting my 600mg cycle to eight weeks, going back to TRT doses for ten and researching other compounds in between. I’m enjoying the strength increase, but the goddamned pumps and not being able to sleep for the boners and fuck dreams are both pissing me off.

    One thing that I do miss about having dogshit test is that I never got pumps.
    Pump non sense!!?!?!?

    Fuck. I want that pump all day..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Yeah because you have to.... need to so I don’t lose sight of you in my rear view mirror.
    Actually, I am doing the wimp.... I mean Cape workout. In and out in 45. Due to lack of time. No cardio and no second workout.


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    Quote Originally Posted by German89 View Post
    Pump non sense!!?!?!?

    Fuck. I want that pump all day..
    I hate it in ways that I cannot even begin to describe; I always have. If I could get away with doing every type of movement constantly in the 1-3RM range without ripping something, I would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timetolift5 View Post
    OHP 5x80~3x95~2x110~1x120~1x130
    Amrap@135x10
    Klokov 45x10~90x12/11/10

    Pull-Ups~10/9/8/7/6
    Barbell Row 200x13/13/12/11
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    What are the two I highlighted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Actually, I am doing the wimp.... I mean Cape workout. In and out in 45. Due to lack of time. No cardio and no second workout.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    What are the two I highlighted?

    As many reps as possible. The other I don’t know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    I hate it in ways that I cannot even begin to describe; I always have. If I could get away with doing every type of movement constantly in the 1-3RM range without ripping something, I would.
    Are you talking. Lower back pumps?

    Or muscle pump from lifting? Because if so, what's the point of lifting if you dont chase the pump?
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    Fuck. Took my slin at 8 am. Had a meal every hr for 4 hours. 1:49 I went hypo. It was like some one glued the smarty package. Took a min but I got them open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
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    You guys still bulking?Attachment 175538Attachment 175539 I am
    I'll admit you come out of the gates hard, but I'm playing the long game ;-)

    And to answer your question: I'm stuffing down the food, pinning a shit ton (to me) of chemicals, and moving weights as hard as I can.

    There's nothing else to be done... But write my acceptance speach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Fuck. Took my slin at 8 am. Had a meal every hr for 4 hours. 1:49 I went hypo. It was like some one glued the smarty package. Took a min but I got them open.
    Damn! Delayed reaction!

    Knock on wood, I've only gotten the shakes, but once bad enough i thought I'd miss my mouth with the spoon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    What are the two I highlighted?
    As many reps as possible for overhead press
    Klokov Press is a behind the head standing press. Similar to ohp but behind the head instead of in front

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    Quote Originally Posted by German89 View Post
    Are you talking. Lower back pumps?

    Or muscle pump from lifting? Because if so, what's the point of lifting if you dont chase the pump?

    Pump isn’t necessary to get stronger. Gallowmere and I do strongman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Fuck. Took my slin at 8 am. Had a meal every hr for 4 hours. 1:49 I went hypo. It was like some one glued the smarty package. Took a min but I got them open.
    Be careful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by German89 View Post
    Be careful!
    Hell. I thought I was out of the woods. Bad thing I was driving. Couldn’t get my hands to work to unroll the smarties. Finally did and pulled into a gas station and loaded up.

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    how many IU of slin did you pin and where did you pin it ? a 4 hour delayed onset with Novalin R seems odd.

    also. is it possible you consumed carbs, got a natural spike of insulin , and THEN injected the exogenous slin on top of what you already naturally produced, thus greatly elevating your insulin spike

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    Quote Originally Posted by German89 View Post
    Are you talking. Lower back pumps?

    Or muscle pump from lifting? Because if so, what's the point of lifting if you dont chase the pump?
    You do realize that pump chasing has zero correlation to strength increase, yes? I don’t do this specifically for hypertrophy; that’s just a side effect. I’m far more interested in the overall performance increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    how many IU of slin did you pin and where did you pin it ? a 4 hour delayed onset with Novalin R seems odd.

    also. is it possible you consumed carbs, got a natural spike of insulin, and THEN injected the exogenous slin on top of what you already naturally produced, thus greatly elevating your insulin spike
    Glad you’re here. Yes weird. 15 ius at 8 am. Had my meals every hour for 4 hours. Last one at 12. No food for 1.49 hrs. I don’t know what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    You do realize that pump chasing has zero correlation to strength increase, yes? I don’t do this specifically for hypertrophy; that’s just a side effect. I’m far more interested in the overall performance increase.
    this is basically true . however, there can be some benefits had for strength via the pump (or metabolite training) especially in regards to the recovery aspect. driving blood and metabolites into the muscle at the end of a strength based workout, or perhaps on a recovery day, can help strength athletes.
    so I'd just say apart from just hypertrophy, the pump can still be beneficial (but its definitely not going to make up the bulk of your training)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Glad you’re here. Yes weird. 15 ius at 8 am. Had my meals every hour for 4 hours. Last one at 12. No food for 1.49 hrs. I don’t know what happened.
    whats your normal fasted blood sugar been running

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    whats your normal fasted blood sugar been running
    Last time I checked which was a while ago was in the 80’s

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    this is basically true . however, there can be some benefits had for strength via the pump (or metabolite training) especially in regards to the recovery aspect. driving blood and metabolites into the muscle at the end of a strength based workout, or perhaps on a recovery day, can help strength athletes.
    so I'd just say apart from just hypertrophy, the pump can still be beneficial (but its definitely not going to make up the bulk of your training)
    Exactly why I allow for it. As I said, IF I could train perpetually in the 1-3 range I would. Unfortunately, biology just doesn’t care what I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Wait until I can run more than 300 mg of cyp. Lol.
    Obs, I need you now. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Fuck. Took my slin at 8 am. Had a meal every hr for 4 hours. 1:49 I went hypo. It was like some one glued the smarty package. Took a min but I got them open.
    I hate it when that happens. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    how many IU of slin did you pin and where did you pin it ? a 4 hour delayed onset with Novalin R seems odd.

    also. is it possible you consumed carbs, got a natural spike of insulin, and THEN injected the exogenous slin on top of what you already naturally produced, thus greatly elevating your insulin spike
    Believe it or not, I had the same thing happen the other day. I was like WTF, this shouldn’t be happening. I had my glucose tabs handy!


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    All of this is why slin scares me but I will no doubt try it someday

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    how many IU of slin did you pin and where did you pin it ? a 4 hour delayed onset with Novalin R seems odd.

    also. is it possible you consumed carbs, got a natural spike of insulin, and THEN injected the exogenous slin on top of what you already naturally produced, thus greatly elevating your insulin spike
    I guess this is what I did the other day at mcdonalds.
    I drank soda,then shot, and continued to drink soda.

    10iu of novolog aboutput my ass out.
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    Btw guys when I go hypo some smarties wont cut it.
    I need a refrigerator and 7 lbs of food. Another reason I like slin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I guess this is what I did the other day at mcdonalds.
    I drank soda,then shot, and continued to drink soda.

    10iu of novolog aboutput my ass out.
    yep. this can happen. we are NOT diabetics. so when we go eating a bowl of white rice and 2 pop tarts (fast acting carbs) and 15 mins later our body starts pumping out its own insulin and THEN after that we inject 15iu on top of that, our insulin levels are way higher then they would be had we went ahead and shot the exogenous insulin BEFORE consuming that meal
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    yep. this can happen. we are NOT diabetics. so when we go eating a bowl of white rice and 2 pop tarts (fast acting carbs) and 15 mins later our body starts pumping out its own insulin and THEN after that we inject 15iu on top of that, our insulin levels are way higher then they would be had we went ahead and shot the exogenous insulin BEFORE consuming that meal
    I had actually deduced that was the cause. My natural insulin fluxes hard. I shred carbs and my body has some weird way of knowing exactly how much of a wave to throw to put me back at baseline in 30 min.
    I thought it was just freak timing because I sometimes can get very low bloodsugar naturally. Hypo in fact.

    I have never had any amount of slin mess me up that bad though. Worst hypo yet off 10iu

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    yep. this can happen. we are NOT diabetics. so when we go eating a bowl of white rice and 2 pop tarts (fast acting carbs) and 15 mins later our body starts pumping out its own insulin and THEN after that we inject 15iu on top of that, our insulin levels are way higher then they would be had we went ahead and shot the exogenous insulin BEFORE consuming that meal
    I'd be lying if I said this all sounds easy .
    It's probably why I have not sent this route and don't think I will , seems like you have to be very on top of this so kudos to you guys who can take this stuff on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Last time I checked which was a while ago was in the 80’s

    I'm guessing your a bit more insulin sensitive right now then you've been in awhile (perhaps your diet has changed or your training has went up or added in cardio, or perhaps an AAS your taking is making you more insulin sensitive) , and the second peak of the Novalin just hit you a lot harder right now then it usually does.

    as long as your not overly stressed and your cortisol levels are not elevated , the insulin sensitivity could show up as lower fasted blood sugar OR as a lower then normal post perennial blood sugar reading after a glycemic load (without taking exogenous insulin).

    tomorrow I would take your fasted blood sugar . then when you eat a meal (without insulin) that contains at least 40g of carbs and very little fat, take your blood sugar reading again 1.5 hours later.

    my guess is that your fairly insulin sensitive right now, your fasted blood sugar will be in the high 70s and your post meal will be in the 90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT View Post
    I'd be lying if I said this all sounds easy .
    It's probably why I have not sent this route and don't think I will , seems like you have to be very on top of this so kudos to you guys who can take this stuff on.

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    Its not that bad at all for most guys brother.
    I am strange. Most rarely or never go hypo
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    Also Capebuffalo , what AAS are you taking right now ?

    you could have a higher level of IGF right now and thats going to come into play with your bodies glucose metabolism as well and how inulin effects you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Its not that bad at all for most guys brother.
    I am strange. Most rarely or never go hypo
    You are not strange, you are class A my friend .
    If I ever do go through with it , I will definitely coming to you and gear for knowledge on this type of protocol that's for sure


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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I had actually deduced that was the cause. My natural insulin fluxes hard. I shred carbs and my body has some weird way of knowing exactly how much of a wave to throw to put me back at baseline in 30 min.
    I thought it was just freak timing because I sometimes can get very low bloodsugar naturally. Hypo in fact.

    I have never had any amount of slin mess me up that bad though. Worst hypo yet off 10iu
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    yep. this can happen. we are NOT diabetics. so when we go eating a bowl of white rice and 2 pop tarts (fast acting carbs) and 15 mins later our body starts pumping out its own insulin and THEN after that we inject 15iu on top of that, our insulin levels are way higher then they would be had we went ahead and shot the exogenous insulin BEFORE consuming that meal
    When I had fasted bloodwork before my cycle my insulin was 15 which was one number above normal so it was considered high. The doc didn't bring it up but should I be concerned about this? Also
    cholesterol - 194 normal
    triglycerides - 150 high as normal was considered<150
    HDL - 47 - normal
    CALC LDL CHOL - 117 - high as normal was considered<100
    Does all this automatically mean I'm pre diabetic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyJ View Post
    When I had fasted bloodwork before my cycle my insulin was 15 which was one number above normal so it was considered high. The doc didn't bring it up but should I be concerned about this? Also
    cholesterol - 194 normal
    triglycerides - 150 high as normal was considered<150
    HDL - 47 - normal
    CALC LDL CHOL - 117 - high as normal was considered<100
    Does all this automatically mean I'm pre diabetic?
    slightly high fasting insulin levels just means that you may have a slight bit of insulin resistance going on.. that is usually easily fixable.
    would be beneficial to know your fasting glucose and post perennial glucose levels as well.

    we could simply manipulate your diet and training to get you back to insulin sensitive instead of resistant , OR add in a GDA (glucose disposal agent) or drug like Metformin , which has plenty of healthy benefits with little to no side effects and is very affordable.

    easy fix if you get on top of it now
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