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**Obs** · 08-10-2019, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by almostgone

I feel for you, mine stays that way. The blood bank at the hospital here never has any issues with my high hemoglobin, but the clinic that pays for donations is pretty strict about it

First two years I did this even after huge cycles my hemoglobin never got over 16.

I seriously believe the need for donation is very person dependant.
Mine wont be getting this high again.
I been so damn outta breath and bp so high I am fortunate I didn't kick over in the sun.

I am in a super good mood now.
Gonna eat a few asprin

**almostgone** · 08-10-2019, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

First two years I did this even after huge cycles my hemoglobin never got over 16.

I seriously believe the need for donation is very person dependant.
Mine wont be getting this high again.
I been so damn outta breath and bp so high I am fortunate I didn't kick over in the sun.

I am in a super good mood now.
Gonna eat a few asprin

....and hydrate with water or light electrolytes. When my hematocrit gets on the mid 50s, my breathing is so off. Post donation I feel like I can draw fresh oxygen all of the way down to my toes.

So add the high hematocrit to the clotting disorder, I try to keep hematocrit under the mid 50s.

**GearHeaded** · 08-10-2019, 11:31 AM

just a couple of my thoughts and opinions here regarding high hematocrit/hemoglobin

- I find it interesting that elite cyclists and other cardio based athletes will take EPO, a drug that elevates hematocrit far greater then steroids can, and they get their hematocrit levels to near 60 and they feel amazing and have better cardio performance then anyone on earth..
yet us steroid using meat heads will get elevated hematocrit in the low mid 50s and suddenly we can't breath or tie our shoes or walk up a flight of stairs.

well I don't think its the high hematocrit thats the real issue here. otherwise the cyclist would suffer just like we do and not even think to get their levels up to near 60 to compete in a race. there are underlying things going on

- high hematocrit in and of itself is really not that concerning and clotting issues are not going to be a problem, UNLESS that high hematocrit is coupled with high blood plasma levels. thats the number on blood work you need to look at

- when bodybuilders take AAS at high dosages and hematocrit levels elevate, compared to cardio athletes taking low dose dry AAS with EPO and their hematocrit elevates, theres a big difference in whats happening in the body.. the bodybuilder generally puts on 20 pounds for eg., and has a ton of fluid retention, super compensated glycogen stores, more blood volume and fluid in the blood, etc.. fluid around the organs and heart even . the cardio athlete on the other hand probably has an increase in work capacity because of the elevated RBC and he loses weight and gets leaner and less watery.

its all this fluid retention, nitrogen and glycogen retention, extra blood volume ,etc. thats happening to us when our hematocrit levels are getting elevated that we lose our cardio ability . its not the actual rise in hematocrit itself . thats the difference.
and when we go donate blood , we are loosing a little bit of this blood volume and retention and it makes us feel better. you could probably end up having similar feel better results by running diuretics for 2 days, dropping your carbs to zero, and losing 6 pounds of water weight and volume. it'll feel like you just donated , but your hematocrit will still be elevated. cause again its not really the hematocrit causing the main issue.

just a few thoughts .. no real science here.

**almostgone** · 08-10-2019, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

just a couple of my thoughts and opinions here regarding high hematocrit/hemoglobin

- I find it interesting that elite cyclists and other cardio based athletes will take EPO, a drug that elevates hematocrit far greater then steroids can, and they get their hematocrit levels to near 60 and they feel amazing and have better cardio performance then anyone on earth..
yet us steroid using meat heads will get elevated hematocrit in the low mid 50s and suddenly we can't breath or tie our shoes or walk up a flight of stairs.

well I don't think its the high hematocrit thats the real issue here. otherwise the cyclist would suffer just like we do and not even think to get their levels up to near 60 to compete in a race. there are underlying things going on

- high hematocrit in and of itself is really not that concerning and clotting issues are not going to be a problem, UNLESS that high hematocrit is coupled with high blood plasma levels. thats the number on blood work you need to look at

- when bodybuilders take AAS at high dosages and hematocrit levels elevate, compared to cardio athletes taking low dose dry AAS with EPO and their hematocrit elevates, theres a big difference in whats happening in the body.. the bodybuilder generally puts on 20 pounds for eg., and has a ton of fluid retention, super compensated glycogen stores, more blood volume and fluid in the blood, etc.. fluid around the organs and heart even . the cardio athlete on the other hand probably has an increase in work capacity because of the elevated RBC and he loses weight and gets leaner and less watery.

its all this fluid retention, nitrogen and glycogen retention, extra blood volume ,etc. thats happening to us when our hematocrit levels are getting elevated that we lose our cardio ability . its not the actual rise in hematocrit itself . thats the difference.
and when we go donate blood , we are loosing a little bit of this blood volume and retention and it makes us feel better. you could probably end up having similar feel better results by running diuretics for 2 days, dropping your carbs to zero, and losing 6 pounds of water weight and volume. it'll feel like you just donated , but your hematocrit will still be elevated. cause again its not really the hematocrit causing the main issue.

just a few thoughts .. no real science here.

Unless you have pre-existing conditions.

**GearHeaded** · 08-10-2019, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by almostgone

Unless you have pre-existing conditions.

agree . AAS induced acute high hematocrit is one thing .. non AAS use induced chronic high hematocrit is quite another thing and is indicative of other health problems and undying conditions

**almostgone** · 08-10-2019, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

agree . AAS induced acute high hematocrit is one thing .. non AAS use induced chronic high hematocrit is quite another thing and is indicative of other health problems and undying conditions

LOL, you beat me to the post! I was going to clarify my post so that people wouldn't interpret my post as disagreement with yours.

There are some people that are genetically predisposed to throwing clots. Some people have issues like Leiden Factor 2 or Leiden Factor 5 and throw clots at the drop of a hat. Others have cardiac issues, some have both.

There's a whole slew of prothrombin issues and then you get into the whole clotting cascade....it makes your head spin.

**Chrisp83TRT** · 08-10-2019, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

agree . AAS induced acute high hematocrit is one thing .. non AAS use induced chronic high hematocrit is quite another thing and is indicative of other health problems and undying conditions

I've been saying this shit forever and have had guys argue me with this.

Thank you gear.

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**i_SLAM_cougars** · 08-10-2019, 07:33 PM

Did you get bled yet?

**Obs** · 08-10-2019, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars

Did you get bled yet?

Yes I was rejected for double red but accepted for whole blood.

Not as good as power red but it will have to do for now.

Between lack of sleep, donation, and grinding stumps... I feel like jello.

**Chrisp83TRT** · 08-10-2019, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

Yes I was rejected for double red but accepted for whole blood.

Not as good as power red but it will have to do for now.

Between lack of sleep, donation, and grinding stumps... I feel like jello.

Stay strong handsome

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**Cuz** · 08-12-2019, 03:54 PM

Good luck with it big man. Seems strong as fuck im scared of it. Will be following

**Obs** · 08-13-2019, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cuz

Good luck with it big man. Seems strong as fuck im scared of it. Will be following

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For you Cuz...

It came out like black coffee then yellow man milk when I squeezed.

Its tastes like cheddar cheese and sweat! Mmmmmmm.....

**Obs** · 08-13-2019, 06:04 PM

Someday.... I need someone to explain to me how it is I can lactate without a gyno lump whatsoever or any extra mammary fat.

I have been this way since I used masteron .
Its like I am immune to gyno, yet I can nurse an infant.

**Old Duffer** · 08-13-2019, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

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For you Cuz...

It came out like black coffee then yellow man milk when I squeezed.

Its tastes like cheddar cheese and sweat! Mmmmmmm.....

Mmmm! So effing HOT!

**Obs** · 08-13-2019, 06:23 PM

I have ran a lot of compounds. I must say this is probably the most powerful effects I have felt from such a low mg dosage.

I looked like crap two days ago.
Two days at the gym blew me out wider'n uranus. Shirts were loose now they are too small.

I was out of gym 3 weeks or so beating myself to death in the heat though.

I love this lifestyle but damn it consumes your soul when you lose 5-10lbs.

**Mooseman33** · 08-13-2019, 06:54 PM

how is the water retention bud?

**Obs** · 08-13-2019, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

how is the water retention bud?

None noticed yet.

I cant really retain water this time of year though.

**charger69** · 08-13-2019, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

Someday.... I need someone to explain to me how it is I can lactate without a gyno lump whatsoever or any extra mammary fat.

I have been this way since I used masteron .
Its like I am immune to gyno, yet I can nurse an infant.

Because your a pussy!

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**Obs** · 08-13-2019, 11:57 PM

Puddle on ground is sweat from jeans.

And GH thought I should run a diuretic....

He tryna kill me.

**charger69** · 08-13-2019, 11:57 PM

I am going to take ment. I am concerned about BP, what other things do I need to watch out for?

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**Obs** · 08-13-2019, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

Because your a pussy!

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Then you must be my bloody little period

**Obs** · 08-14-2019, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

I am going to take ment. I am concerned about BP, what other things do I need to watch out for?

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Just to clarify I think MENT did increase my bp worse than tren with that little dive in I did.

The man milk is not related. Thats from two years of elevated progesterone and prolactin.

Other than that idk.
Watch out for the sides of muscle and feel good.

As I recall charger responds well to estrogen?

**Obs** · 08-14-2019, 12:08 AM

Oh yeah...

I fucking stink charger.
I mean I gd reek like that formaldehyde smell except super concentrated with parmesan.

That could be my nips though.
I fukin stink.

I really do like this MENT though.
You should hold off on it though because you are big enough.
Let me catch back up ffs.

**Obs** · 08-14-2019, 12:18 AM

Btw change your damn avatar ffs you have won multiple competitions!

**Cuz** · 08-14-2019, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

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For you Cuz...

It came out like black coffee then yellow man milk when I squeezed.

Its tastes like cheddar cheese and sweat! Mmmmmmm.....

Im honored i hope you saved me a sample my man

**i_SLAM_cougars** · 08-14-2019, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

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For you Cuz...

It came out like black coffee then yellow man milk when I squeezed.

Its tastes like cheddar cheese and sweat! Mmmmmmm.....

You should gather enough of that up in a vial to send it out and get it mass-speced

**Obs** · 08-14-2019, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars

You should gather enough of that up in a vial to send it out and get it mass-speced

Lmao

**charger69** · 08-17-2019, 01:43 PM

The smell is worse then tren ?? My wife refuses to wash my gym clothes ( when on tren) with regular clothes because of the stench “of the dead” (formaldehyde). LOL

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**Obs** · 08-17-2019, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

The smell is worse then tren ?? My wife refuses to wash my gym clothes ( when on tren) with regular clothes because of the stench “of the dead” (formaldehyde). LOL

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Yes.
It has a tang to it

**Obs** · 08-25-2019, 10:59 PM

Been slackin.

I added tren base with today.

I have neve been this horny in my life. I smell like wanttofuk. I think the ferret thinks I stink.

BG · 08-27-2019, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

When I have a heart attack they won't know why...

I think they will have a pretty good idea why....

**i_SLAM_cougars** · 08-27-2019, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by BG

I think they will have a pretty good idea why....

When they look in the garbage can and find a bunch of empty boxes of bronkaid and Redbull cans...

**Obs** · 08-27-2019, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by BG

I think they will have a pretty good idea why....

**i_SLAM_cougars** · 09-06-2019, 12:58 PM

How’s this going?

**Obs** · 09-06-2019, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars

How’s this going?

Fucked up on a bid thus week.
Ruined my week and about killed me a couple times from the heat.

I got it done and recharged last night.
Feel better than I have in a long time.

I have to het the fuck away from summer.
Its just too gd much.

Not doing another solo summer.
Will hire two guys next summer.

I am not carrying out or loading this shit at all with employees.