freedom - does it even exist

[GearHeaded]

so where I live, when you register to get a drivers license you have to sign off on a waiver that basically says you can be arrested at any time and be taken in to have your blood taken..

what the F is this bullshit


why can't I just jump on my motorcycle and just simply drive around and be free without such total government control .. its just a man, a machine he built himself, and an open road .. yet the govt wants to tax you for it over and over again every year and make you sign waivers saying you can get arrested and have your blood drawn if you get a license to drive it


"land of the free" ,, my ass

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Because we allowed them to progressively dick us over harder and harder for the last hundred years. They did it slow, so nobody really noticed. It’s like when you let little things go with your car until “later” instead of fixing them as they occur. Then one day you realize it’s now a huge piece of shit

[Proximal]

Nothing is free, you have to pay to play.

[GearHeaded]

I want a cabin in Wyoming on 1000 acres ,, a set of weights and a good power rack. all my guns and ammo . a good garden. a motorcycle and a good old pickup truck . and just be totally left alone.
yet the system is likely not going to allow that without totally trying to control my every move

[The road]

I'm still a little pissed off about monogamy.

Women fucked us over. They give you that pussy and lock you down. Passion fades.... Then yer stuck with nothing.

You just want to make some curvy young thing squeal but you can't. It will cost you everything and weigh on your conscience.

The government and socialism is the same.

[The road]

I desperately need a 20 year old hard body chick to sit on my face then beg for the dick I'm throwing at her.

Shame on me....
What a pig for wanting mutual passion and desire...

[clarky.]

I'm still a little pissed off about monogamy.

Women fucked us over. They give you that pussy and lock you down. Passion fades.... Then yer stuck with nothing.

You just want to make some curvy young thing squeal but you can't. It will cost you everything and weigh on your conscience.

The government and socialism is the same.

I desperately need a 20 year old hard body chick to sit on my face then beg for the dick I'm throwing at her.

Shame on me....
What a pig for wanting mutual passion and desire...

always rely on you for a food chuckle.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

Shame on me....
What a pig for wanting mutual passion and desire...

This is the only thing that I have against the whole Christian "no sex before marriage" thing. You could meet the perfect girl who is perfect in every way, ticks all the boxes, hard body, sense of humour, you could court her and be chivalrous and finally go on to marry her -- only to discover that she's an inanimate object in bed. I would rather branch out into bestiality than have another partner who is catatonic in bed.

[GearHeaded]

I'm still a little pissed off about monogamy.

Women fucked us over. They give you that pussy and lock you down. Passion fades.... Then yer stuck with nothing.

You just want to make some curvy young thing squeal but you can't. It will cost you everything and weigh on your conscience.

The government and socialism is the same.

monogamy is for men that are lazy and content ..

Abraham, king David, Solomon .. etc.. great rulers and they never had just one wife.

the desire to "own" multiple women is no different then the desire to own multiple guns, multiple chainsaws, etc..
not sure why some women just don't get this and get jealous... so what if I sleep with my secretary , I'm still going to sleep with you to wifey .

you got change their mindset.. I'm lucky in that I have a hot wife that gets totally turned on by me sleeping with other women. heck even when she O's she fantasizes about me banging some other chick.
I'm sure King David back in the day had plenty a good threesomes with all his 'wives'

[Proximal]

monogamy is for men that are lazy and content ..

Abraham, king David, Solomon .. etc.. great rulers and they never had just one wife.

the desire to "own" multiple women is no different then the desire to own multiple guns, multiple chainsaws, etc..
not sure why some women just don't get this and get jealous... so what if I sleep with my secretary , I'm still going to sleep with you to wifey .

you got change their mindset.. I'm lucky in that I have a hot wife that gets totally turned on by me sleeping with other women. heck even when she O's she fantasizes about me banging some other chick.
I'm sure King David back in the day had plenty a good threesomes with all his 'wives'

I’ve long felt sex and love are different things & can easily interfere with each other.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

I'm lucky in that I have a hot wife that gets totally turned on by me sleeping with other women. heck even when she O's she fantasizes about me banging some other chick.
I'm sure King David back in the day had plenty a good threesomes with all his 'wives'

On our last weekend together, my ex-girlfriend brought me to a bar are in Brooklyn where we met a female friend of hers of similar age. My ex-girlfriend was saying to her "oh so you need to see the room we got in the hostel". After 2 or 3 minutes, watching my exgirlfriend grope and sweet-talk her friend, I realised that she was strongly hinting for her friend to come to bed with us. I took offence to this at the time as this was one of the many situations in which she had taken a liberty when she should have asked me first. She had been having threesomes with her exhusband before I came along, and it seemed that she used her exhusband as the gauge to try judge what I deemed to be okay and not okay. It was the following day that I broke up with her, but for a different (but similar) reason.

I have zero interest in having multiple women (even if everyone involved is consenting).

[GearHeaded]

On our last weekend together, my ex-girlfriend brought me to a bar are in Brooklyn where we met a female friend of hers of similar age. My ex-girlfriend was saying to her "oh so you need to see the room we got in the hostel". After 2 or 3 minutes, watching my exgirlfriend grope and sweet-talk her friend, I realised that she was strongly hinting for her friend to come to bed with us. I took offence to this at the time as this was one of the many situations in which she had taken a liberty when she should have asked me first. She had been having threesomes with her exhusband before I came along, and it seemed that she used her exhusband as the gauge to try judge what I deemed to be okay and not okay. It was the following day that I broke up with her, but for a different (but similar) reason.

I have zero interest in having multiple women (even if everyone involved is consenting).

I hear ya .. I'm just too damn tired lately and have other things to do then to mess with other women right now. . my wife is dope, hot, super sexual, and I don't have the energy for anything more then what she provides (which is plenty)
thats just me personally.

having said that. I agree with road , monogamy is bullshit. if a man has the desire and the energy to have multiple women at one time,, so be it.. if multiple women want to marry him , so be it.
I completely don't get the law of monogamy .. heck thats probably why there is so much divorce cause your only allowed to have one wife at a time

[Proximal]

I desperately need a 20 year old hard body chick to sit on my face then beg for the dick I'm throwing at her. ..

In case she’s slow & needs some sense of direction

[GearHeaded]

I’ve long felt sex and love are different things & can easily interfere with each other.

yep !
sex is sex,, its just a mutual understanding between two people and their physical desires.. has nothing to do with love.

I love my wife.. yet she's laid back and watched me bang other beautiful women whom I did not love,, and the women were there cause they enjoyed our company and it was a mutual understanding of desire of what we all wanted.
just because "I love" my wife doesn't mean I can't have sex with someone else who wants and has desires as well totally separate from "love''

totally agree that love and sex are two totally separate and un related things

[< <Samson> >]

This is all the truth - that we live in within the US - the LE has random rights to anything & everything we do - we just slip through the cracks - some longer than others

After my son is grown, I’ll most likely go back home, or me & the wife will go into deep Mexico where her family is. . . Fuck health care, if I make it that far - that’s most likely my path


As far as monogamy goes - well, I don’t have that issue - sorta, shit is hard to land. And, it’s seriously a mental struggle when shit comes around. . . And, it’s been a while - yeah, the wife popped the question(while in a drunken stooper) - where’s my side dick. . . That ended there for now. Double standards work as well as Communism

[The road]

yep !
sex is sex,, its just a mutual understanding between two people and their physical desires.. has nothing to do with love.

I love my wife.. yet she's laid back and watched me bang other beautiful women whom I did not love,, and the women were there cause they enjoyed our company and it was a mutual understanding of desire of what we all wanted.
just because "I love" my wife doesn't mean I can't have sex with someone else who wants and has desires as well totally separate from "love''

totally agree that love and sex are two totally separate and un related things

I want that so bad it hurts physically.

[XnavyHMCS]

I strongly DIGRESS from posting any and all of my beliefs on this thread...

As I hope that most of my beloved forum friends are currently sleeping soundly, I read all of the posts, and I could certainly add my hard-earned experience and opinions to the thread; I digress...

Some of you already know where I stand on this issue.

Post up and entertain the hell outta me, gents!!!

Edit: I am addressing the insane issue of monogamy. Excuse the confusion.

[The road]

I need it 24/7

I need strange shit.
Something that pulls me in and squeezes me with her arms and cunt.... Wants to smell my armpits and follows my dick with her grip... Moans with that lost look on her face...

No I dont love her.
It hurts knowing what is out there and what you cant have.
Especially on tren test and mast...
I thi k I fucked myself up for life

[The road]

I also want a petite one... One I can hold one handed like a 90lb dumbell and beat that thing up.

[lovbyts]

Yes it would be so nice to have that but Damn, mine just turned 22 this week. Everything else on the list I got, even the 4' 11" and almost 91 lbs.

I desperately need a 20 year old hard body chick to sit on my face then beg for the dick I'm throwing at her.

Shame on me....
What a pig for wanting mutual passion and desire...

[The road]

Yes it would be so nice to have that but Damn, mine just turned 22 this week. Everything else on the list I got, even the 4' 11" and almost 91 lbs.

Fuck you kindly sir

[GearHeaded]

I strongly DIGRESS from posting any and all of my beliefs on this thread...

As I hope that most of my beloved forum friends are currently sleeping soundly, I read all of the posts, and I could certainly add my hard-earned experience and opinions to the thread; I digress...

Some of you already know where I stand on this issue.

Post up and entertain the hell outta me, gents!!!

Edit: I am addressing the insane issue of monogamy. Excuse the confusion.

"""There is no pain like that of desire
Is there no difference between women and fire?
One burns the spirit
The other the flesh
Is sex worth the price of certain death?'''



quote that song

[XnavyHMCS]

"""There is no pain like that of desire
Is there no difference between women and fire?
One burns the spirit
The other the flesh
Is sex worth the price of certain death?'''



quote that song

I am not big on music, so therefore I cannot quote the song. I like whatever sounds good to me.

But YOU, GH; you are the fucking BOMB...!!! If I can't conjure up consensus for a Medal of Honor nomination for you, maybe I can gain enough support for a Silver or Bronze Star...

You rock it again, bro!!!

Yeah man... The woman has been my Achilles Heel...

I wish I could get involved in this discussion, but I have some totally hardcore, unorthodox views on fidelity and self-denial of an innate desire which lurks inside of many men (some women I believe), coupled with the sociopathic activities which go hand in hand with cheating and deception.

Stones which, perhaps are better left unturned...

[lovbyts]

LOL, trust me, Ive more than put in my dues and actually getting what I deserve for once. Im not looking this gift horse in the mouth especially at my age. Ive been living most every mans dream the last couple of years and it just keeps getting better.

[lovbyts]

Type O Negative "Pain"

"""There is no pain like that of desire
Is there no difference between women and fire?
One burns the spirit
The other the flesh
Is sex worth the price of certain death?'''



quote that song

[< <Samson> >]

I’m the one who usually gets more attached to pussy than one should

No lie - kinda sucks

Like the wife’s new bff(and pretty much all women that I meet me this way) - she just wants to get under mine & wife’s skin - when that happens, she won’t go away - women are way too manipulative when they set their eyes on something/someone they want

Me & my wife already had the talk - she(like a few others) just totally befriended my wife so she can fuck me just because now she’s ok with it - bull shit, I’m the one who has to put up with everything when I go home


It’s kinda sad - now I look forward to low libido parts of my cycles - strange pussy has been my cryptonite since day 1 < it’s built into our dna. I get around it & it’s worse than a crack head around crack

[The road]

"""There is no pain like that of desire
Is there no difference between women and fire?
One burns the spirit
The other the flesh
Is sex worth the price of certain death?'''



quote that song

Yes.

[Proximal]

Yes it would be so nice to have that but Damn, mine just turned 22 this week. Everything else on the list I got, even the 4' 11" and almost 91 lbs.

When I was separated from my wife in my 30’s, I had the very good fortune of having a relationship with a dark haired girl of those same dimensions. Not very chesty, but legs for days. We were together for two years before I resumed my relationship with my wife. The sex was incredible, which is why I cheated on my wife for an additional 6 years with this same little thing. It was one hell of a ride while it lasted, enjoy!

[lovbyts]

Yeah I am not a big fan of large bust but that tight hard butt drives me nuts. You know the type, you can bounce a quarter off it.

When I was separated from my wife in my 30’s, I had the very good fortune of having a relationship with a dark haired girl of those same dimensions. Not very chesty, but legs for days. We were together for two years before I resumed my relationship with my wife. The sex was incredible, which is why I cheated on my wife for an additional 6 years with this same little thing. It was one hell of a ride while it lasted, enjoy!

[Proximal]

Yeah I am not a big fan of large bust but that tight hard butt drives me nuts. You know the type, you can bounce a quarter off it.

Yup!

[XnavyHMCS]

LOL, trust me, Ive more than put in my dues and actually getting what I deserve for once. Im not looking this gift horse in the mouth especially at my age. Ive been living most every mans dream the last couple of years and it just keeps getting better.

Rock -it-out, bro!!!

Chapeau bas.

I been there a couple of times in my 55yrs, and man has that been fun... Pussy (No Hole Barred), basically "to die for ass"... A woman with all the right equipment and the savoir faire = Nothing Better Than That.

I could fill threads with erotic tales...

For me, it has been a major part of my life.

[XnavyHMCS]

I’m the one who usually gets more attached to pussy than one should

No lie - kinda sucks

Like the wife’s new bff(and pretty much all women that I meet me this way) - she just wants to get under mine & wife’s skin - when that happens, she won’t go away - women are way too manipulative when they set their eyes on something/someone they want

Me & my wife already had the talk - she(like a few others) just totally befriended my wife so she can fuck me just because now she’s ok with it - bull shit, I’m the one who has to put up with everything when I go home


It’s kinda sad - now I look forward to low libido parts of my cycles - strange pussy has been my cryptonite since day 1 < it’s built into our dna. I get around it & it’s worse than a crack head around crack

Samson: We have talked before, I believe,,,???

Hey bro, I second what you said; it is totally a drug for me.

I have only met a handful (or less) of guys who could summon the self-discipline to walk away from that...

And that self-disciplined guy; that;s NOT me...

[XnavyHMCS]

When I was separated from my wife in my 30’s, I had the very good fortune of having a relationship with a dark haired girl of those same dimensions. Not very chesty, but legs for days. We were together for two years before I resumed my relationship with my wife. The sex was incredible, which is why I cheated on my wife for an additional 6 years with this same little thing. It was one hell of a ride while it lasted, enjoy!

Prox: Hey buddy!!! Please DON'T take this the wrong way.

But after a post like that, I have a new found respect for you...!!! Man to man, of course (teacher to teacher), and I mean no disrespect to your wife...

[XnavyHMCS]

I don't know if I have a "definite type" per se.

When I was younger, the girl had to have a really nice body, definitely not overweight... I missed out on banging a bevy of chubby chicks; I totally fucked up, if my current experience serves as any yardstick. Now I have this side action going with this single mom, 20 yrs younger than I am, a bit overweight, I would classify as in the "chubby / curvy" category. She has this Brazilian style ass which is just yearning to be oiled up...

I had always heard, in my youth, "fat girls try harder...", I must say, there is some truth to that.

That being said, I love all the pussy.

[Proximal]

Prox: Hey buddy!!! Please DON'T take this the wrong way.

But after a post like that, I have a new found respect for you...!!! Man to man, of course (teacher to teacher), and I mean no disrespect to your wife...

TY, but please don’t. I used the word cheated as in, this was not a cool thing. Granted, it was a thing that I had to get out of my system and never really regretted, because physically and mentally, my mind said nothing other. But the extent of the lies was disgusting & unforgivable.

25 + years later, the wife and I are inseparable, but she will NEVER TRUST ME 100% again. When you know that is the case, you know what you did was not right.

She will love me forever, but I’m sure she will never forgive me for those lies.

[XnavyHMCS]

TY, but please don’t. I used the word cheated as in, this was not a cool thing. Granted, it was a thing that I had to get out of my system and never really regretted, because physically and mentally, my mind said nothing other. But the extent of the lies was disgusting & unforgivable.

25 + years later, the wife and I are inseparable, but she will NEVER TRUST ME 100% again. When you know that is the case, you know what you did was not right.

She will love me forever, but I’m sure she will never forgive me for those lies.

Understand your logic.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

Steroid.com should team up with SLAA.

[< <Samson> >]

Just being able to hold a conversation damn near like this with my own wife is priceless


I don’t think many guys can get away with that one

[lovbyts]

That is a fact. Not being worried about a subject, idea or fantasy being out of bounds is very refreshing.

Just being able to hold a conversation damn near like this with my own wife is priceless


I don’t think many guys can get away with that one

[Test Monsterone]

so where I live, when you register to get a drivers license you have to sign off on a waiver that basically says you can be arrested at any time and be taken in to have your blood taken..

what the F is this bullshit


why can't I just jump on my motorcycle and just simply drive around and be free without such total government control .. its just a man, a machine he built himself, and an open road .. yet the govt wants to tax you for it over and over again every year and make you sign waivers saying you can get arrested and have your blood drawn if you get a license to drive it


"land of the free" ,, my ass

When you use a road, then it's no longer your freedom, but the safety and wellbeing of everyone else who uses that road and it's surroundings. You can be free all you want, go to some third world country and you can piss in the street, do doughnuts wherever, pay 3 hookers for a week... but then you don't have the luxuries and protection afforded by civilization. Soon as the tyrant down the street finds out you have something he doesn't, he comes and robs you and your family and possibly kills you for the hell of it. This is why civilizations were created. We live in a system, we can't just do what we want if we want to participate. We are safer and healthier than we've ever been, so on paper, we are better off now than ever. I understand your point, but trust me, you don't want that freedom.